well, the information day of the tv channel in rozpala, in our studio, mykhailo tsimbalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine, lieutenant general of the ministry of internal affairs, is in reserve. glory to ukraine, mr. mykhailo, we congratulate you. glory to the heroes, i wish everyone health. well, unexpectedly, the news arrived, no one warned, no bot factories did not publish, even people's deputy maryana bezugla did not write anything on her facebook. so, until recently, the secretary of the national security council, oleksiy danilov, is no longer... there, he no longer holds the corresponding position, so mr. litvinenko was already appointed as the recent chief the foreign intelligence service, yes, and accordingly certain rotations took place in the foreign intelligence service itself, well, but the key story is not the affairs of intelligence officers, but, so to speak, the fact that oleksiy danilov resigned his powers, what happened in your opinion? well, first of all i want to say that the president of ukraine, the supreme commander, the secretary is the chairman of the national security and defense council. of

the national security and defense council, it performs purely technical functions, preparation, proposals for solutions, collection and analytics and analysis of this operational information that occurs in state, and i believe that danylo probably broke the record of his tenure in this position, and during this period he had not the easiest times, but he was always different from his own. predecessors with harsh remarks towards the country of the aggressor, and in general he was a person , in my opinion, who could comment very sharply on any events, it seems to me that he was uncompromising in this position, but time takes its toll, apparently he has already completed his task, and this body is consultative, but it is extremely important during the special regime of e... martial law, and probably before

the national security and defense council , there are other tasks, that is why such a rotation was carried out, as far as we know, mr. danilo can head one of the embassies, such a course of events is not excluded, and we wish him success, well, i wanted to quote political scientist ihor chalenko now, yes, well, this is his version and assumption, but... i am quoting chelenka now: danilov's dismissal is unexpected, because he showed himself to be a serious and loyal player in zelenskyi's team. i can assume, noted chalenko. danilov was released after his recent statements to the special representative of the people's republic of china on eurasian affairs, lihui. the other day, we received a decision to close the registry of war sponsors, which, in chalenko's opinion, was lobbied by china together with france. in this register, exactly 30% of the companies were chinese and after that we saw.

dismissal of danilov, although no one could remove danilov for a long time, but in the current situation one should expect comments from the president, which is logical and from the ex-chairman, ex-secretary of the nsdc himself, because danilov, according to chelenko , did not publicly give a reason for his dismissal, that's the story, well, i would say that i don't fully agree with that comment, because it's wrong to say that... no one could remove him from office, he was removed from office by the person who appointed him, the president, yes, the president of ukraine, that is, it is his competence, he selects the apparatus of the national security and defense council, because of that i would not draw such conclusions here, it seems to me that we will see the further career fate of mr. about general it

is obvious that they will primarily take place in the government, based on the new vision, will have an optimized number of ministers and this is no secret, it is possible that there will even be a replacement of the head of the government, denys shmyhal, maybe it is impossible, everything is possible, but i do not think that today the prime minister satisfies all parties, i mean first of all the office of the president, the president of ukraine, so it seems to me. from the side, but there will definitely be a consolidation of ministries, for this we see that the head of the ministry of culture and information policy has been gone for several months, which is extremely important in this difficult period, there is no head of the ministry of sports, there is no head of the ministry of veterans, that is, this all indicates what will probably happen... some kind of

situation regarding the consolidation and reduction of the number itself, it is important that the quality of the activities of officials improves. and i wish them that, although there are certain doubts. ugh. yes, mr. mykhailo, let's move on to legislative work. currently, many draft laws are awaiting consideration, in particular this draft law on strengthening mobilization, which is currently being considered by the specialized committee, and people's deputy razomkov stated that the draft law contains a provision regarding enlistment of men from the age of 19, if they have completed basic military training at 18, something new, because previously there was no such thing in... the provisions of this bill, we would like to ask you, perhaps you have more information on this topic, well, first of all, i i would like us to comment less on the committee's decision for the time being, because everything will depend on the position of the session hall, when this draft law

will be voted on, what you commented on or quoted dmytro razumkov, after that... another quote by oleksiy appeared honcharenko, who said that this the amendment was not supported by the committee on national security and defense, because of that, but there may be a lot of surprises, because the committee is working, all the amendments have not yet been considered, and the only thing i can say is that the law on improving mobilization can never be popular, it but it is absolutely necessary in order to finally carry out the rotation. servicemen of the armed forces and other military formations who today protect our state and to improve the work, starting with the tsk and ending with all the bodies-subdivisions that today fall under the influence of this the draft law, you correctly said, regarding

improvement, because the draft law, or rather the law is in effect, it is not perfected, but today it is working, yes, it is extremely interesting, by the way, i would also like to quote it. she told iryna friz, a member of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, that the draft law that the verkhovna rada passed in the first reading contains a significant number of contradictory and illegal norms, and the committee is working on it, which, in your opinion, are the norms of ms. frieze and what should we do with them? well, that's a lot norms, some of them, as far as i know, have already been rejected, the one that concerns the single office of a military serviceman, the one that concerns, ah, the registration and enlistment of persons with disabilities and their caregivers, ah, that, as for teachers and, er, graduate students, doctoral students, that is, these are all those things, in their case,

restrictions, or support of one and not support of others, this is all a violation of certain norms of the constitution, because, i think, that. .. the committee will cope with its task, we wish it that and expect the receipt of this legislative act as soon as possible in session hall and voting in the second reading. mr. mykhailo, if, for example , we approach procedurally or procedurally, then we understand that the specialized committee on national security, defense and intelligence held consultations with the general staff of the ministry of defense, the office of the president, and so on and so on, well, they consulted with everyone, but there is a decision of the session hall. so, the committee will present its vision where they approved, did not approve, and then at the discretion of the deputies, and here the key story is the mood in the session hall, on the one hand on the one hand, on the other hand, we understand that the plenary meeting should have been held this week, but for some reason it is not there again, that is

, the americans went on vacation, well, our deputies did not go on vacation, but there is no work either, and then, well, and then easter, easter and so on and so on. you understand, the process is kind of endless, mr. antin, for the first time in my life , allow me to disagree with you, this week there will be a meeting, yes, the entire session of the verkhovna rada, although i doubt that the committee will have time to present this bill, but i emphasize once again that it is very important that in the session hall we receive the document that ukrainian society expects today, first of all... it is extremely important to comment on anything while there is no document in the session hall. why? because many of the amendments that

are rejected or considered by the committee today, they will be considered or confirmed, and there can be any surprises in the session room. regarding the deviation of this or that norm and so regarding consideration, mood, mood, well, we understand that the deputies also have their own vision, here and there regardless of even factional environments, so to speak. very often, for example, there are people there or groups or minigroups there according to their interests according to their visions and so on and so on, that is, what is the overall atmosphere in the country, i can say that in general the deputies are not in a good mood because they will have to vote because there are realities about which say the representatives of the general staff and the ministry of defense and other power structures that are currently engaged at the front, and on the other hand there is... a kind of pressure from ukrainian society on those things that you and i have already talked about several times, that's why the deputies are not

in the mood, but we will have to vote, i really want the final version of it to be cleaned of those aspects that violate human rights, or i should say, the norms of the constitution , because the very law on the improvement of mobilization is already... a certain certain coercion, and during the period of martial law there is provision for the restriction of human rights, because of this, something should be invented to satisfy everyone, definitely someone will take it and turn, for example, to the constitutional court and so on, for example from the deputies of your colleagues, yes, because if there are certain controversial points, then it is better to undo it sooner than later, and then reverse it, this is precisely the task of the committee, which is now daily e... the security, defense and intelligence committee considers these amendments, colleagues

others who are members of this committee were just quoted, it's easier for them to talk about it, i'm not involved in the regular meetings, so it's difficult for me to comment on it. now we will take a short break, after which we will continue talking with mykhailo tsimbalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine, and we will add volodymyr arev, also a people's deputy of ukraine, to our broadcast. let's talk about maryana bezuglai's initiative, a rather serious initiative that concerns the possibility of representing the state, state functions, and performing them in this way, and here they propose very terrible punishments for this, well, we'll talk more about this in four minutes, don't switch, you damn scoundrels , my legs can't walk anymore, wait, i'm... i 'm not feeling well? and what is the health like in the sixth decade? and i thought so until i tried it

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soon as this information appeared, well, nadiyu is right, that's right, people's deputy nadiyu. by the right of legislative initiative, but to register, to pass the committee and for this bill to get into the session hall, it is a very long way, i know people's deputies who run by the number, but to look at the quality of these bills, it is, i'm sorry, nothing, someone thinks, how are people deprived of their liberty in places oblige everyone to pedal and produce. electricity was a legislative initiative and other things, that is, i would not comment on it, but there is one unfortunate fact that we are in the period of a special regime of martial law, when people's deputies are not allowed abroad so that they, as according to the constitution and the law on the verkhovna

rada, they also have the right to represent the state, defend their interests, that's why this is probably a desire. or to frighten someone, or to please someone. we are attaching volodymyr arev, people's deputy of ukraine, mr. volodymyr, we would like your reaction to the draft law, i must mention here, by the way, that in the authorship there is another people's deputy from the servant of the people, like galina tretyakova, who has also been scandalized not for the first time with its legislative initiatives, and actually i want to say here that it already is even from... gave up on her initiative, she says that only the president, prime minister and head of the foreign ministry have the right to represent ukraine abroad, this is the motivation of their draft law, what is your impression of it, do you think it is the chances that this bill will pass at least the first reading, if this bill is brought to the verkhovna rada at all, then this will

simply be an excuse to stop any. further negotiations for ukraine's accession to the european union, a member of the european parliament has already reacted to this today viola von kraman, who wrote that such things simply, well, to put it mildly, will not really help the negotiations on and ukraine's accession to europe, this is already an absolutely clear signal, this is the first time, the second time, i do not... believe that this draft law was something accidental, first of all there are two of them. because one of them is big, that one is 11103, and definitely not humorous, because it is a thorough bill on the so-called special missions

of ukraine, article 13, which directly prohibits ukrainian citizens from any contact with the government, government structures of other countries, and and 11104, this is only an appendix, because it is an amendment to the criminal code of ukraine, and as you know, amendments to any amendment to the code require a separate introduction of a separate law. project, and here it is already proposed during martial law from 15 years to life, and now look, if a person has submitted it... even a complaint to the european court of human rights, it can be, accordingly, interpreted as falling under such a criminal article,

if they wrote a letter of problems with democracy, and even if they wrote a letter to, roughly speaking, to the president of the usa, with a request to give weapons to ukraine, and this person is... for example, from the opposition, then the actions can also fall under the criminal article, as proposed by bezugla and tretyakov. in fact, from my personal experience as a 17-year-old in the verkhovna rada, this is one of the most idiotic bills and the most harmful bills that has been registered. in the parliament of ukraine in general, because in this case it has already caused serious concern among our western colleagues and this can really

harm ukraine's european integration, if these bills are not removed, but the reason is not just stupidity, but i believe that the reason is that these two deputies, they do not do it on their own. something, they completely fulfill the wishes of the bank, and this desire of the bank to check the reaction of the society was the result of the european parliament adopting a resolution in which a separate paragraph required ukraine to stop obstructing the people's deputies in their international activities, since the european side always perceives multi-level diplomacy, there except officially there is parliamentary diplomacy. international diplomacy of international organizations , public organizations, cultural diplomacy, etc., and therefore it is clear that

there could be no other reaction than the european parliament to this bill, but what did bankova want to do, she wanted to show the europeans with such a bill that okay, fine, we we can theoretically remove restrictions for people's deputies, but we are... implementing such restrictions for people's deputies that they themselves will not want to engage in any international activities, this is a shot in the leg, if not in the head, and therefore in this case, the only way out is to withdraw this idiotic bill as soon as possible, a harmful bill specifically for the european integration of ukraine, and forget about it all like a bad dream. yes, well, i want to believe that they will not go that far. mr. mykhailo, i wanted to ask you more about this... with departures, not departures of people's deputies, so we understand that the european parliament issued a corresponding resolution, yes, well, there was a reaction from the side of the vice-prime minister stefaniyshina, well, but there is

a position of our european partners, there are healthy, i don't know, common sense or healthy logic, we understand that the majority there, i don't know, 99% of people's deputies, they are not going to go anywhere, they are going to work in the verkhovna rada , which they do in the end, but somehow i don't know the situation has improved, well... we understand that people 's deputies must work not only in ukraine, but within the limits of their competence to work for the interests and protection of the interests of ukraine abroad, in the same european union. undoubtedly, people's deputies of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, they are included many interparliamentary, parliamentary, european institutions, because it is important that they have a legal opportunity to exercise their right. to represent the state, by the way, one of the people's deputies at the previous meeting, at the previous two, invited the chairman of the verkhovna rada and demanded to announce

how many people's deputies are currently on foreign business trips every day , and there were numbers more than 20 in one day, that is, this says that people's deputies travel, i have another question, or from all of them democratic factions , there is equal access to business trips, which , i am sure, is justified, here is a certain question for the leadership of the verkhovna rada, i think, perhaps, after such a harsh reaction of our european partners, the situation should improve. ugh. volodymyr ariyev, we are in touch, a people's deputy of ukraine, well and accordingly, aleverdy, this is the same question for you, mr. volodymyr, what about trips, business trips abroad, somehow it has become warmer, or just as... difficult, in fact, i , for example, now had the opportunity to go with official delegation to brussels to participate in

the parliamentary assembly. test jointly with the european parliament, and this was my first graduation abroad in almost a year, despite the fact that i have diplomatic experience and hold the rank of ambassador plenipotentiary, nevertheless i was completely cut off from any international activity, in terms of are there any systemic changes? no, there are no systemic changes, and the rules for mps traveling abroad have not changed. thank you, we were contacted by volodymyr ariev, people's deputy of ukraine. thank you for operational analysis of the current situation, in the spresso studio, mykhailo tsimbalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine, we have literally almost two minutes left. 2.5, yes, 2.5, in response to the final word, yes, mr. mykhailo, if we are talking about parliamentary work, to what extent do we currently assess its effectiveness, how is it currently progressing, and are there hopes that there will be

meetings will be held regularly, because you said there will be this week, but can we hope that this process will somehow go normally? well, it's hard to say, and how from which side to judge, if we take it objectively and in general, then after february 24, 2022, the verkhovna rada of ukraine did not close its sessions at all, we meet regularly even on working days, and weekends are not days off for us, another thing that the effectiveness of these for... sittings were truly sessional weeks, when the verkhovna rada adopted 10 draft laws in one working day, which already became laws, that is, important, important resolutions, now for one reason or another, after two or three hours of work of the verkhovna rada already 226 votes is not in the session hall, and this is a question, both for the monomajority and for the discipline.

all deputies of the verkhovna rada, because each of us is responsible to our constituents, why do so many people talk about wanting to compile mandates for i will tell you, the level of the verkhovna rada, as the people say, is unfortunately already below the plinth, so that people came to the verkhovna rada who did not always have even life experience, professional experience, and writing laws is a very difficult thing, moreover, this law. there was a meaningful order that he served and not i was just calculating, it is very difficult work and hard work, and some people's deputies lost their content in the verkhovna rada because of the salary that is there, it is, as they say, some people think that you can earn more in business, and in fact it is so, they simply stopped attending sessions, i think it would be fair that those people's deputies who

are not interested in... parliamentary work, that they draw up this mandate and go to work, who goes to the front, if he is of conscription age, if not, goes , deals with the economy, pays taxes and this is how the security sector helps , thank you, mykhailo tsambalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine was eteri espresso, we are saying goodbye to ankin and you for today, see you tomorrow, our colleagues will continue to inform you about the most important things, take care, see you tomorrow. it's 5 p.m. in ukraine, for your attention a news release on the spresso tv channel, in the studio of iryna

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