good evening, greetings to all. since yuriy vitaliyovych, today we ask our viewers and tv viewers about the threat to democracy, is there a threat to democracy in ukraine now? let's take a blitz-survey format, i'll ask you, is there a threat to democracy in ukraine now? yes, there are two of them. one is external, because putin is fighting precisely against democratic ukraine, which poses a threat to the kremlin empire. and the second threat is internal, when authoritarian tendencies. tries to install president zelenskyi, even where it is not necessary, during martial law sole rule. thank you, yuri vitaliyovych, let's start our conversation with personnel rotations. today, zelensky dismissed oleksiy danilov, secretary of the national security and defense council. in his place, he appointed oleksandr litvinenko, who until now headed the foreign intelligence service, and oleh ivashchenko, who was the first deputy, was appointed the head of the foreign intelligence service.

head of the ministry of defense of ukraine. how do you assess these personnel changes, are they fundamental in the power unit and what are they mean? this is the rare case when i support president zelenskyi's decision. mr. danilov, as secretary of the national security council , was an absolute fifth wheel to the work of this very complex institution, well, actually, just like his predecessor danyliuk. and the fact that a professional person who was deputy secretary of the national security council from 14 to 19 was appointed here, who is known in the world of professionals with a deep knowledge of the international situation, the potential opportunities of ukraine, and his analytical work, is good, mr. danilov will be remembered exclusively for his barren position before the war, because it was he who told the ukrainians

that there was no threat of attack, he was the one who aggressively, simply physically attacked poroshenko during a meeting with the speaker, saying that funding for the armed forces of ukraine was not needed, it's all politicking, and the money should go to the asphalt, it was he who introduced absolutely dilettantish strategies that ended in his fiasco. after such primitive and collected statements, the side of the special representative of china to our country seems to me to be a fiasco of an unprofessional person, short-sighted, who really wanted to show her criticism, but instead , all i remember was his baseless aggression and, most importantly, his irresponsible policy before the start.

we have volodymyr zelenskyi's speech about danilov, now we will listen to what the president of ukraine actually says about this scandal? today i continued rebooting the system of managing our state. there are staff replacements. i am grateful to oleksiy danilov for his work as secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine. he. transferred to another direction, more about that later, well, they are talking about the fact that he will be the ambassador of ukraine to norway, but there is no decree, and there is no decision on this, but here are the personnel, i am more, i apologize, i was more interested in the president's message to hear when the criminal charge will be given evaluation of the actions of danilov, who continued the financing of missile programs from 19 to 24, and then from 24 to three... years, as

a result, from 19 to 21, ukraine never made a single neptun, no vilkha division complex, no stugna anti-tank missiles, none long-range ukrainian-made howitzer bohdan, all this he himself prepared documents that the money should be buried in asphalt. instead of giving it to the ukrainian missile and artillery program, think about it, in the last year before the war , they buried 13 billion dollars in the asphalt based on the documents that danilo slipped, now you understand why we met the enemy unprepared with old soviet rpgs, old soviet revenge guns, old with missing fortifications, with detached troops from chongar, think oleksandr, on chongar near poroshenko it becomes.

21 thousand troops with ready-made fortifications and minefields, replacement bridges, and before the war there was half a battalion left there, that's 400 men and eight miners, that's... this is danilov's work and i don't care who he was transferred to, i'm interested when he's with him investigators will work. yury vitalivych, well, you understand that the question you articulate is probably what zelensky should have asked himself, because danilov is the secretary of the national security and defense council, and the chairman of the council of national security and defense, after all , the president of ukraine, this is the first, certainly zelensky signed all the documents prepared by danilov, look, look, there is a question. does the country need an independent prosecutor general, who will work not after the change of power, but in parallel with the events, beyond any doubt, yury vitaliyovych, look at the rotations that took place today, they are part of those large rotations that began on february 8, 24 the year when

zaluzhnyi was released, when 16 generals were sent probably retired, not in reserve, because they were not appointed to positions. the main directions in the armed forces of ukraine were headed by other people, the generals who went through a ten-year war with russia were simply removed from power, how do you assess the personnel rotations that took place over the past two months, not only today, but in general well, probably, it is not so important how i evaluate them, how to look at the result, and the result was told to us by president zelensky. that the situation in the armed forces of ukraine has never been so good as for the last time after the removal of the constrictions, i believe that this statement is inadequate to the situation at the front, because my four months in bahmut and another

eight months there in other hot spots, gave me a lot of comrades, and i have constant communication with them, nowhere unfortunately, there is no improvement in the situation, so the removal... zaluzhny was exclusively politically motivated, and president zelenskyi, who should primarily perform the duties of the supreme commander and work for the benefit of the army, here worked for his own benefit, in the interests their own political ambitions, removing a person who has a tremendous level of trust and twice the presidential rating of the current president himself, so... i consider the removal of osersky's meritorious appointment exclusively from this political angle, but even worse, the removal of a large group of generals who are now simply hostages of zelenskyi's political ambitions, they are not released in the reserves, there is no such mechanism, they are simply at the disposal of the minister of defense,

and they cannot, well, neither bring benefits to the homeland, nor engage in any construction new life, i suspect that sooner or later they will... find themselves in very serious positions abroad, sharing their simply colossal combat experience, scattering such people, with such knowledge, with such practice, is absolutely unacceptable for any government, on unfortunately, our shows and clips are dominated by the intentions of the supreme, regarding what is next, and this is not the end, now the commanders of the brigades are being filmed, this whole process is going downhill. and now imagine for a second how much syrsky needs, with all due respect to him, because he is really a fighter a general who has been fighting since the 14th year, and as his new commander, in order to get up to speed, syrskyi was appointed, and literally a few days later, the russian super-offensive on avdiivka began, and general syrskyi does not know anything,

he did not know anything about avdiivka at the time, because he was busy in the operational direction of khortyts, that is, where bahmud and others were on time. and he had to get acquainted with all this on the go, his new commander of sohoputki the same, his new commander of the sso the same, that is, how useful for the army is the mass reassignment of generals, it seems to me, it turns out, the map shows the advance of the enemy deep into our territory, unfortunately, these personnel rotations in the force block are taking place... even against the background of the accusations of the russian leadership against ukraine for involvement in the terrorist attack in the moscow suburbs. today there was a large collegium with the participation of the leaders of the power bloc of the russian federation, bortnikov, the director of the russian fsb insists on the kremlin's

version that this terrorist attack was allegedly prepared by islamists with the assistance of ukraine. let's listen to a small fragment. the intention to go abroad specifically to the territory of ukraine. according to our according to preliminary information, they were waiting there. now a lot is being done to ensure that in the process of further operational search. activities to identify all the participants of this massacre, both those who are on the territory of russia and those who are abroad, which, as a matter of fact, is being done. since they, excuse me, were doing their feet, it means that they still intended to run away, to run away, and i will reveal a little secret, on the other side they wanted to be met as heroes. well, typical delusions and lies performed by bortnikov, as well as putin and everyone else, but... there is this attempt at lies and delusions, which they relay to the whole world, an attempt to justify

their aggression against ukraine, to say that there are not only fascists there, but also terrorists who support the islamic state, well, it would be very useful to remind our dear viewers that the leaders of other terrorist organizations are regularly and publicly received in the kremlin, they hug. with the leaders of hamas, they embrace with the leaders of the taliban, and actually russia itself is the number one terrorist state and organization, because they bloody terrorist and war crimes are committed on the territory of ukraine every day, and therefore this unity of terrorist states, well , there is nothing so strange, but on the other hand, in the terrorist world very often one terrorist attacks another, and it happens regularly. blows up, kills, stabs, shoots, poisons his

competitors in a terrorist environment. they are fighting hamas, they are fighting the taliban, they are even fighting the russians in syria, they believe that putin is enslaving millions of muslims in russian territory. empire accordingly, they will launch terrorist attacks against their brothers in terrorist activities, including against russia. and here... well, nothing surprising, and deal is very concerned about his image as the number one psycho in the world, from the frosts, the number one in the world, which we actually saw, why they do this, to increase the flow of money that goes to terrorist organizations from various fanatics or from states that sponsor terrorism. now what are these yes, but at the same time it is very important to understand, now everyone already knows it, the american special services ahead of time... informed russia about this terrorist attack by idil fighters, as far as i understand, the americans have an agent inside idil, and they

informed the russians not only about a very narrow period of time when it could happen, but even told where, in one of the concert halls , even in ukraine, even in peacetime, any such events such as a concert are always coordinated with law enforcement agencies, they are notified, they are appropriate measures, check fire stations. spare exits, put patrols, you want to say that after such a warning to the americans, the russians forgot to do it? no, they specifically missed this idyllic terrorist attack, why? from my point of view there are two reasons, and they just lie on the surface. the first reason: putin, the number one terrorist, wants to present himself to the world as a victim of other terrorists, they say, idol is attacking you, mr. americans, mr. french, mr. germans, mr. italians, he is attacking me, so we are

still in the same circle, this is his plan, so that they start to feel sorry for him, forgetting that he kills peaceful people in ukraine every day, from adults to babies, and the second goal is, of course, to accuse ukraine of having ties to a terrorist organization and affairs, so that the country, which often suffers from these ... terrorists, stops, or at least slows down , the supply of weapons to ukraine at this crucial time. here are these, here for these two tasks, changing the image and slowing down the supply of ukrainian weapons, putin brought to the slaughter, he simply opened the door for terrorists to kill more than 100 of his fellow citizens, he never counted them , he will not count them, and the fsb officers are already building their various silly versions. only one problem. even putin's ally lukashenko says that they went to the territory of belarus, how can this be connected with

the windows on the ukrainian border, cholera knows them, in general bortnikov, who talks about investigative and operational measures, because they say that if they went, then wanted to escape, my lord, what deductive logic mr. bortnikov has, what strong specialists of the fsb, that is, a preemptive attack, they received information, they did not notice, but... and now they made a highly intellectual conclusion, since they were driving from the scene of the crime, where they calmly in they went on a rampage and killed russians in that cinema or cinema hall. that means they fled, and if they fled, they must have fled to ukraine, that they are just sculpting, give the shit a candy that needs to be sold to the world, but the world is not so stupid anymore, we know for sure that this is another delusion, and we have to prepare for the that putin is preparing to go to abank, april, may, this

will be the vabank of putin's offensive on ukraine by military means. and it will be vabank undermining ukraine from the inside through political provocations for putin's achievements terrorist goals. well, the deputy head of the security council of the russian federation, putin's henchman dmitry medvedev, in his new post, praised the security forces who used torture during the detention of the tajiks suspected of the terrorist attack and called for revenge for the terrorist attack with mass murders. i quote medvedev. they were caught, well done, everyone who caught them must be killed, it must be, and so it will be, but it is much more important to kill all those involved, all those who paid, who sympathized, who helped to kill them all, against the background of this, russia is already talking about the possibility of withdrawing moratorium on the death penalty that, what does this mean in the current conditions in the russian

federation, it means that all opponents of putin just might be officially executed. and those who kara murza are sitting somewhere in prison, and all other opponents can simply be executed, because they will also be considered those who undermine the foundations of the so-called statehood there, the so-called state of the russian federation, putin, when such events took place on russia, if we remember the houses that flew into the air, and then nordost, and then beslan, each time some novel appeared and something new in... his policy, is he limited to pointing in the direction of ukraine and saying, here are terrorists, or there are russia, all around are terrorists, and now we will kill all terrorists, and this also applies to tajikistan , and uzbekistan, and kyrgyzstan , that is, he can use, as a pretext for entering all those territories, simple

information, they all support terrorists, that is, he invented a new formula, er... my two grandfathers met in 1945 under the walls of reistag, and i was brought up in that soul, that our people and my family were involved in the victory over fascism. i never thought that i would personally witness how a new fascist state, the russian federation, would be created before our eyes, literally in a very short time. remember, under yeltsin, it was so... soft into a disintegrating territory into a virtually ferocious principality, then putin comes, the country immediately, through various political, military, informational, any other measures, becomes first chauvinist, then imperialist, when he starts to capture the territories of its neighbors, then it

becomes racist, and with the attack on ukraine and especially with the appearance... in the public russian and actually in the world space of wagner's pmc, it becomes a thoroughly fascist state. these ritualistic killings of the enemies of russia with a hammer, when the skull was smashed with a hammer, these bloody instruments, which became very fashionable among the russian political elite, finally cemented fascism. fascism is not only when all the neighbors are. inferior, and they can be killed, robbed and tortured, that's when with their internal enemies, stormtroopers can destroy at their own discretion. medvedev is finished, a fool, he is playing the role

that zherinovsky used to play. the only thing that is useful when reading his rambling texts... he says what putin thinks, but keeps silent. they are really creating a fascist state in russia today, and they not only threaten to destroy neighboring countries according to their horde tradition, but also intend to completely destroy internal enemies, because in fact at least 20% of russians are against this criminal war, and they want to find that 20%. they understand that this can develop into the same process that took place in germany at one time after the victory over fascism, which was built by the german 20%. the current normal civilized federal republic of germany, it was those 20% of germans who judged their fascists. therefore, putin directs

these strikes not only against us, he uses all these acts of terrorism, and medvedev simply perfectly explains it to us, we will kill internal enemies as well, regardless of the constitution, regardless of the courts, indifferent to any international obligations, we are fascists. the state and we will do what we want both inside, inside the country, and outside. this is what we are fighting against today, this is what we are actually fighting against today. yuri vitaliyovych, why do you think the event does not clearly articulate the task of what will happen next with russia, but says, we will not allow ukraine to be defeated and does not say that the current russia should go through the process of denazification. which is their tool, all this must be eradicated in russia, because the language is still there

it is not only about ukraine, but about the whole world. you understand, this is a very difficult question, because in reality germany did not heal itself , it was occupied, divided into zones of responsibility, and in the western zones a total regime, sification, was created, and the bet was placed on the youth, they were brought up in a different spirit, because by the middle in the 1970s, among the older generation, hitler was still an authority, according to sociology, but the youth grew up and made a completely different germany, which is sometimes even, well, from my point of view, too pacifist. now about the world: let's talk about the plans, the forced victory over russia, its forced denazification, the creation of new educational programs, new ones. political culture, new control over their radical elements is still too early. unfortunately, today the whole world understands in a daze that we

are, well, by historical analogy, not in 1944 on the eve of the victory over fascism, but in 1939, when the western world stepped back and allowed the fascists to destroy the democratic ones. the spanish republic and the republic of poland. to date, the world has not woken up and decided that this is its war. it still is 1939 year. and now, when you see macron, a completely different macron than six months ago. when you see the british who have been absolutely adequate from day one. when you see how the position of many american politicians is changing. we see that the world is beginning to understand that we are inevitably ahead of us, 1941, when the fascists will attack the whole world, when

the war will already begin, in civilizations, and moscow will not be alone here, everyone now understands that it is a club of dictatorial states that who challenged the entire built world after defeating hiter. no, putin destroyed the un, it means nothing now, putin destroyed the osce, putin destroyed international agreements on borders, etc., he destroyed the concept of the red cross and many, many other things. today, he is left with the fifth article of nato. today, he is probably planning to attack one of the nato countries, and by doing so, he will finally destroy the whole. the world of the victors over hitler, and then the new fascism, this time, strangely enough, moscow's, will triumph. that is why today our

allies, from macron to the end others, well, not to mention, together with other representatives of western countries, are beginning to realize that the challenge is not only about ukraine, it is about the existence of a democratic world in general, and today poland is mobilizing. its own armed forces, and more and more military contingents of nato countries are arriving there. in this situation, we need to work very well with our western allies, stop mental attacks, stop childish insults, stop pedaling certain points that divide us. we have a common enemy, and not far away the time when we will sit with our polish brothers and other western countries in the same trench, unfortunately, is coming before that, so the task of ukraine is very simple: fortification,

restoration of ukrainian... missile programs, so that we do not depend on anyone, it is real , poroshenko did them in two years, why can’t we now restore what has already been done, mobilization, because i’m sorry, the fourth month of sabotage on this issue has already passed, and work with partners, these four directions can actually allow ukraine to withstand a huge offensive from the outside and from the inside that he is planning. putin for the month of april-may. thanks to yuri vitaliyovych for inclusion. it was yuriy lutsenko, captain of the armed forces of ukraine, former prosecutor general of ukraine and ex-minister of internal affairs. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on youtube. please vote in our poll. today we ask you about the following: do you see threats to democracy in ukraine today? yes, no, everything is quite

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ukrainian statehood, everything else, in my opinion, is still secondary, although in the conditions of martial law, certain authoritarian tendencies are usually observed, which are sometimes justified, and sometimes not justified, within management of ukraine, and therefore i see that one of our tasks in this war is not to turn into a small russia, not to turn into a russia that is governed by manual control. democracy is imitated and things are done, for which later the people who will carry them out will be ashamed. well, actually, why are we asking about this, because just yesterday there was information from the deputies from the servant of the people, mariyana bezuglai and galina trityakova, who prepared a bill that should be punished by life in prison, or from 10 to 15 years for misappropriation of state functions.

bezugla called her bill a provocation and a test for political discussion, which she wrote on her facebook page , the bill will not be voted on, it's really nice to see how colleagues, who are often not moved by urgent matters, who are happy for a cheap chance to show their commitment to the ideals of democracy, have woken up , bezugla wrote on facebook, well, we know that what is on bezugla's tongue is on the mind of the president's office. and it is unlikely that it was a provocation, well, it is possible there was a provocation, but it could have been a test, how do you perceive such provocations during the war, are they permissible at all? i, mr. serhiy, do not perceive another point well, the fact that the verkhovna rada in the conditions of war, in the parliamentary-presidential republic, which is ukraine, the constitution, does not work like a clock mechanism or like a conveyor belt, does not constantly adopt neb'. laws, and

the fact that ukraine has now turned into an office presidential republic, where the office of the president takes over powers that are not his own, this is also connected with the inability verkhovna rada to make the necessary decisions. making the necessary decisions is not controlled from the bank. our parliamentarians somehow gave up their own rights by themselves. well, on the one hand, it's their, well, so to speak, maybe, maybe it's kind of their right, i think you remember, even that they passed a law that for a failed impeachment attempt, you almost have to forgive, well, no on our knees, and it's good that not the whole country, but if we want to live in a parliamentary-presidential system.