sona, and for us it was very, very important, and we want to include kherson now, we hope that we will succeed, volodymyr klyutsevskyi, deputy head of the kherson regional state administration for humanitarian affairs, is in touch with us, mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you , can you hear me, yes, i congratulate you, i can hear you very well, miroslav, mr. volodymyr, first of all, we remember you and remember you with admiration, and your kherson initiatives, please tell us. about the initiatives and actions that are currently being held in kherson regarding books in connection with the collection of books, and these are your wonderful ideas about vilna, they are reading a ukrainian and russian book about the occupier, so thank you for the given opportunity to reveal this information, really for the birthday of our great... we came up with the initiative

to implement a number of book promotions on the territory of ukraine, which this initiative was supported by the ministry of education and science, supported by the commissioner for the protection of the state language taras kremin, and in fact everything started with an initiative project of our youth, books in... those who developed this project and took the initiative to open books in our warehouses in the city of kherson so that people can read ukrainian books. so, for us, this initiative was supported by the authorities and now we are collecting books from all over ukraine as part of promotions.

one student, one book for kherson , the ministry of education and science asked all institutions of higher education in ukraine for students to bring books and send them to kherson, so that we could fill our shelters in this way, creating such book shelters in corners, because when there were orcs, then more than 150 thousand ukrainian books were destroyed. and we want to replenish these funds, first of all in shelters, we also have an action, which is supported and implemented and promoted by the authority to protect the state language, that is, fluently read ukrainian, which involves the collection of books for the library funds of those regions that have suffered destruction due to the armed military . aggression

, sumy, kharkiv, zaporizhzhia, kherson, and mykolaiv regions, and we also have one more, within the framework of these two actions, if people bring russian-language books, we also take them, but we hand them over for recycling, and in as part of the campaign, we will donate a russian book about the russian occupier. we will donate to the appropriate bank to help the armed forces of ukraine, that is, russian-language books help our boys win this war. so, you see, from the usual youth initiative, i thank them for being caring and creative, non-standard in their decisions, we made

such a large-scale campaign, mr. volodymyr, thank you very much, we will now try to include these beautiful young activists from kherson , who are just now delivering books, we are we will try to add them simply in the process of delivering ukrainian books in kherson, volodymyr klyutsevskyi, the deputy head of the kherson oda for humanitarian issues, was in touch with us today. tanya, this is what, what mr. volodymyr is saying, these are... hundreds of libraries destroyed in ukraine, these are hundreds of cultural monuments, these are hundreds of museums of some kind. the irony is that pen, the main idea of ​​pen, it was based on the fact that cultural heritage and culture is a field of understanding, and it is inviolable, especially during armed conflicts, whether warriors, as people from the west react, yes westerners. but

the writers we bring here, how do they react to what they see in these regions destroyed? and you know, i just thought about my first such advocacy trip abroad, it was... in may 22 of the year, america, new york, and i simply remember how a taxi driver picked me up at the airport, who at the time recently learned about probucha, about kyiv region, and he told me then that you know, i understood why what is happening in ukraine is so worrying, why so much for it's close to us, because when i see the shots of sound or images, i recognize these houses and these streets, they are completely for me, well, even if... they are mine, i understand what i see in these shots, and therefore for it hurts me so much what i see there, and i can draw a parallel here, because i have a feeling that when we talk about the destroyed cultural heritage, these frames, these photos, these videos, they are just as

disturbing and touching those people who they see it because we are all shaped by culture, we are all shaped by the space of cultural objects around us, so let's say... when these first terrible photos appear, for example, of the destroyed library in chernihiv, or when a photo of the damaged church in kharkiv appears, i remember that our entire international community published on their websites, started from these photos , various congresses and international events, because a destroyed library or a damaged temple is something that resonates in everyone, it is something that is close to you, but there is a country in europe where it is being destroyed now. it is obvious that later, when now the full-scale war continues over two years, and when european and international audiences have already seen a lot of these photos, when there are more than a thousand damaged monuments, it's not hundreds, it's already more than a thousand damaged objects, and today photos or our

videos, they may not work, yes in order for people to feel and understand what is happening here, that's why we realized quite early that it is very important... to really bring intellectuals here, and when we bring them, we always go to kyiv region, we go to chernihiv, there are those delegations , who agree go to kharkiv, and it really shocks them the most, what they see around them, destroyed houses, destroyed architectural heritage, temples, libraries, museums, just as they are touched by people's stories, but destroyed or stolen cultural heritage, that , that... that cannot but affect a person, because everyone has it inside, yes, that is, it is a part of upbringing, some kind of foundation on which every person stands. well, we have already seen what a destroyed culture is for centuries, we understand what a destroyed culture leads to

culture in both the physical and spiritual sense. ah, i promised that the young activists from kherson, actually, are the activists who are implementing this initiative. books in shelter, will join us , can we, can we hear marina chizhova, alita gorbanova and anton novikov, good day, anton, novikov, anton, congratulations, congratulations, congratulations, congratulations, friends, we are very, very happy to see you , today on the air, tell me, tell me, please, we have already talked a little about this initiative of yours, tell me what you are doing now, just in... a minute and why for you this book of shelter, what does it mean to you? currently we deliver books already to shelters in which we have installed shelves, for us the project itself means saving human lives with the help of books that people

can read in the shelter, that is, the book is a kind of shelter for people. yes, and in this way we also want to popularize ukrainianization in the southern... region, because , as you know, unfortunately, our region is more russian-speaking, but after the full-scale invasion, of course, most people switched to the ukrainian language, but not all, and there are some people who are very united, if, and we want to change it, we want to help people, to communicate more freely in ukrainian, to move, not to be afraid, to learn, because in some shelters there are books that are just to... to learn ukrainian, that is, not you just come here and look at your phone, or you can take a book and learn something interesting and relevant. friends, please tell me,

what kind of support do you need now, how can those people who now see you and admire you support you, and how can you be supported? at the moment, we are very important to collect books for these shelters, because this, with this, it is difficult now, to what extent, perhaps, who knows, the honchar library, which is located in kherson, it has been destroyed. er , we took some of the books that were saved, they were given to us by the kherson administration, in order for us to place them in a shelter, this will later save the library fund, but for now we need books, so if there is an opportunity for everyone who is watching this broadcast now, i would like to urge you to send only ukrainian books, as possible, as possible do? where can i find information, how can i do it, how can i send you the books? information can be found on our

social pages, we have a social page on facebook and instagram, there is a post in which all the information is indicated, in detail about sending to the new post office, we pay together with the humanitarian new post office, thank you, these were kherson activists , initiatives of books in the shelter, and... they, they collect books for the bookshelves, for the kherson shelters, and they need our inclusion of our help, thank you. what do you think about this, tanya? i think that this is an absolutely amazing and beautiful initiative, in some ways it is such a very strong metaphor, like book shelters, book shelters. i thought that i saw a similar thing, first, in nikopol - this is another absolutely unbreakable beautiful ukrainian city. we have also been there twice as part of volunteer trips, and there their central

main distribution library, in addition to supporting all their branches, tries to keep the work going there, besides, they also had, like many buildings, a basement, it is the absolute center of the city, we know that nikopol, unfortunately, is shelled by the occupiers every day, and in this basement they have also equipped a shelter e, which they take care of, that is, the library is taken care of. the central shelter of the city, and when we got there for the first time, i think it was the spring of 23, and we saw that there were shelves of books in this shelter, and it just shocked me so much at the time, how the role and meaning of libraries in the conditions of the war, and the fact that this book in the shelter continues to work as a book, which is not just a shelter, we can talk about it like that, but the book for me is always... an opportunity for conversation, that is, we talk around the book, we talk around the questions and topics that

sound in the book, and probably because of that, literally from on our second trip to chernihiv, we realized that in the future, when planning our volunteer trips, we will always visit the local library in every city and town, because the library has long been in ukraine, even before the full-scale invasion , not only a place to store books, it. .. for a long time in ukraine, social centers, these are centers that unite their community, provide very different services, and when we now come to these libraries with books, bring writers from ukraine and other countries, we see that it is through the libraries that we we learn the fastest what is happening in this city, in this region, we always get to know all the active people, with whom we then continue the following initiatives, and thanks to the libraries, we understand where our help is needed, and it is not only about... we are talking about books , because we also bring help for military, and the library really

became this center that unites communities during the war. you know, in addition to what i mentioned about nikopol, the amazing initiative in kherson that we just saw, i remember the libraries in donetsk region, sloviansk, kramatorsk, the libraries that this is the first example, i saw in ukraine, that were forced to evacuate books, that is, libraries are generally physically without books, but they will continue to work. work as humanitarian centers, they weave nets, they receive people, provide them help, they conduct some consultations , trainings for people in these communities, some libraries were forced to move from the front line to the west, and even there they continue to look for their readers, gather the community and provide the necessary support, and we have literally been back for a week from chernihiv, and this incredible library where we had joint events, the libraries of kotsyubynskyi and dovzhenko. and this library was damaged several times during the shelling of the occupiers, we remember,

especially on the second floor, the roof also leaked there, there were no windows, it was a very difficult situation, and now literally a year passes, and we saw an absolutely modern, beautiful library that gathers full audiences, film screenings, discussions, debates, for me this is a kind of miracle, for me it is about some kind of so great resilience, the resistance of each of our communities, which is really fascinating. since you have already started talking about chernihiv oblast, i will mention one moment, because tetyana and i were together on this very trip, and together with other beautiful members of pen, with... again , kateryna kalytko, sofia andruhovich, with vakhtan kybuladze. and here in novgorod-siverskyi, which is actually a border area, so there 20-30 km to the russian border, one man stood up, at the meeting, there was an extremely sincere conversation, and he told us the following, he says that you

will not believe, but ukrainian writers have not come to us since 1980. in 1989, in 1989, and we were all very impressed then, i remember that the soviet authorities took very good care of ensuring that there were contacts between artists and writers with people in the provinces, cities, towns furthest from the center, in the villages, even there on farms, pig farms, they held concerts and meetings everywhere. how can it be done now? that is, there is no such propaganda apparatus, yes, what would this contact provide, but contact is needed, as you see it, how can you organize it on such a wider level, because peng will not be able to do it anyway, yes this is a contact that is very necessary for both us and them, how can it

be done? you know, i was also very impressed by this moment, this about... speech of a man in novgorod-siverskyi, i also think about it all the time i think, and i still think not only about the fact that it was part of the soviet propaganda machine, but also about that generation, we are talking about the sixties, so partly about the dissidents, who not only because of the soviet system and the opportunities provided by the soviet the authorities, but also at their own request, they really wanted to go to the people, no doubt, it was just that the soviet authorities tried to instrumentalize it, but in fact these contacts... i heard about these meetings last year in the same chernihiv, they mentioned how pavlychko and drachi, too, with such enthusiasm that leading the main ukrainian writers came to us to talk with us, with their readers, that is, here is a very important moment of the community that we talk about a lot today, the community of the sixties, their influence, their desire to know and

feel their country, and their my lands, and when i think about these experiences in general, i think about the fact that even before the age of 22, pen actually traveled a lot, we had two programs, the lace, within the framework of which we travel to the district centers of ukraine, in we had a program approaching, we went to big cities, but it was during these volunteer trips that i realized that i don't know my country, i always traveled a lot, i was in all regions of ukraine, but now when we go to small towns, when we stop by in the villages, even in these communities, i realized that we don't do this much and that i don't know my country, so it's obvious that we need to continue, travel even more, and now other initiatives are appearing, yes, initiatives of non-governmental organizations, the publishers' forum now travels with the book fair as well initiative to the regions, but for sure this will never be enough, and it is obvious that we should reach the state level as well, when

the state and state institutions will also use all opportunities for writers, artists and... to travel to all regions of ukraine . do you remember that in novgorod-siversky, too, this thought was voiced that it is possible if there were more of these contacts, these conversations, yes, about what we live in, then the situation in this region would be different, there would be more read a ukrainian book, and no one knows how it would have happened military actions there, and this is a very painful moment, and it is addressed to ukrainian artists, it is addressed to us by these people, and we need to think about it, now, of course, there is a big ... difficulty with security moments in these trips, these stories , but at the same time , we see and are convinced from our experience that it is possible and that this is most importantly necessary, by the way, not only in novoratsiversk, but also in general in these border territories , the opinion that it does not happen is constantly heard vacuum, one way or

another, the absence of absence ukrainian culture, so it fills. television, which was russian -language and pro-russian, russian artists, russian books and so on, that is , where there was a void, it was filled with something very foreign, i want to show another excerpt from the film about mykolaiv, about pen's trip to mykolaiv, which is dear to me, because from it it becomes even more clear how he actually communicates. pen with local libraries, local cultural figures, what conversations they have, these are very small snippets, but they give this insight, please.

then we removed all this, because we were preparing for evacuation, and so far we are not unpacking the books, firstly, and secondly, two- thirds of the staff are missing, so some of our departments are working, which are not yet, to date 58 poshko libraries. i will say very briefly what we are doing here, everything we see, we will tell, it is very important to be physically present, both in the ukrainian language and in the crimean tatar language, because it is important for us to maintain the crimean tatar identity , including, yes, in the occupied territories, this is one of the key threats to the occupiers, strong national ukrainian and crimean identity, we will need more and more new books, of course, because... people, no matter how hard it is, they still read.

so, it was mykolaiv, what do you remember about mykolaiv, what impressed you in mykolaiv on that trip? you know, every time i watch these videos or see some photos from our trips, i have the feeling that... i see native people, ah, library managers, library workers, people we return to, in which we now often ask for advice when, when we go in this direction, and mykolaiv is

absolutely just my hometown, we are very close friends today with their libraries, so i am filled with such great joy that i see, see these faces and remember this experience, in fact, this trip was at the same time , when there was kherson, we first... went to mykolaiv region, then from there we went to kherson, and i remember first of all this library, how we were met, what questions were asked, what this library looked like, that is, even in those difficult conditions, we know that mykolaiv was also in very difficult conditions, the first months of the invasion, but despite this they show that here we have already replaced the windows, here we have old prints they showed you, old prints show, here we have... a piece of a rocket fell right in the yard, it did not explode, we continue to work, they talked about how they used to go to the library, even in your days when people tried not to leave

their homes, but they would go to check what was going on here, if the books were safe, try to keep in touch with their audience, it was really absolutely fascinating and and still fascinates me and in fact, mykolaiv did not encourage such an expansion of our assistance to libraries either, we began, in addition to purchasing ourselves... and bringing new books to the de-occupied front-line territories with our penbus, we also began to announce all-ukrainian collections of books, and we managed to mykolaiv and for kherson to collect even more publications, and these are such active people that they try not only to help the city, the region, but it seems to me that they also help the whole of ukraine with their activity and everything that they, all that they are today. are doing and i want to ask you about another such unique phenomenon, about how volodya yarmolenko, a philosopher, and the president of ukrainian foam, and

his wife tetyana ogarkova, they collect money on the platform of their cultural podcast kultpodkast, and almost every time, well, no every time, but very often, they carry not only books, but also a car for the armed forces of ukraine. which they buy with the money they raised on this podcast of theirs, i wonder how you see the reaction of western intellectuals, foreigners to this, in general, how they perceive it because it is something unique for an intellectual, so that on the one hand, here is such an activity, and on the other hand, these people have to support their army in such a way, obviously, that... they often it is surprising, this question is always about the role of intellectuals in the conditions of war, this is the kind of question that starts with almost every international event to which we are invited, and i

always talk about... ukrainian artists who are at the front today, who joined the army , tell their stories, tell what they are they explain that this is a decision to join the army and defend their country today, and tell other stories, i always say that so many of our authors joined the ranks of the armed forces, all the others became volunteers, i always say that in ukraine everyone is a volunteer , and then tells separate stories, in particular tells the stories of tetyan and volodymyr. i am also talking about the history of the cult podcast, it arose as a project even before the full-scale invasion, and according to my feeling, as a listener, this project was designed to show ukrainian culture, as an absolutely obvious part of european culture, yes, to tell ourselves and remind who are our artists, who are these big, large-scale names of our culture, and then after the 22nd year, when tetiana and

volodymyr are active. engage in information work, so they still conduct dozens of broadcasts in different languages ​​for a foreign audience every day, they also start traveling with humanitarian aid to the de-occupied territories, and then they also come to this realization and decision that everything they do everything that keeps culture alive today it should also support our army, and abroad, whenever they ask how to help ukraine, how to help writers or artists today, the first thing we all say is that... "please support our army, it is the main partner of the ukrainian culture, and the story of the cult podcast is actually a very strong example and a very strong metaphor of how ukrainian culture today supports its country and supports its army. tatyana and volodymyr organize many initiatives to raise funds, they will continue to record podcasts in different languages, and in particular all the events that take place in our space, our

apartment owner. they are all aimed at raising funds for the army and buying the next cars. i think that in fact there can be no other scenario in ukrainian culture today. ukrainian culture should also work to support the country and support the army. tanya, thank you for this conversation. tetyana teren, executive director of ukrainian pen, was our guest today. you understand that support culture. it is a part, a very important part of our our resistance to russian aggression, if you want to support ukrainian books and ukrainian culture, do it, help the kherson libraries, help the cult podcast, help the all-ukrainian collection for damaged libraries, and in this way we will only be stronger, and our culture will be stronger. thanks for being with us today, see you in

a week. greetings, i am asking for your help in searching for this boy, his name is vanya gorbachevsky, he is 13 years old, and he disappeared in the temporarily occupied skadovsk of the kherson region. in there is only this one of us. the photo was obviously taken a few years ago, now the old man looks a little older, but i ask you to look carefully at the boy's face, maybe you will recognize him, and ivan disappeared on june 1, 2023, and since then there is no news about him, of course it is possible that vanyu could be taken to russia, as unfortunately often happens with children in the occupied territories, but this is only an assumption

and in fact the boy may still be born in the occupation, or we should not exclude the possibility that he ended up in the controlled territory of ukraine, but for one reason or another, nothing is known about him. therefore, i am asking absolutely everyone, especially residents of the occupied part of the kherson region, who can see this video on the internet, to look carefully at the face of 13-year-old ivan. if you recognize him, do not delay and please notify us immediately on... the hotline of the child tracing service at the short number 11630, calls from all mobile operators in ukraine are free of charge. if it is inconvenient or there is no possibility to call, you can write us on the website or in the chatbot of the child search service in telegram. do not remain indifferent and let's do everything possible together to find the missing boy. i really hope so.