[000:00:00;00] repairable, which can be repaired quickly, we are doing it, the equipment that has suffered significant damage, we are looking for a replacement for it and we will try to repair it as soon as possible, but we must understand that the enemy now, as we see, energy is the number one target, so we must of course be ready for different options for the development of events from our side. on the other hand, we are doing everything possible, both repairs and the possible protection of our energy facilities, of course, we need to strengthen air defense, because better protection than air defense, including for energy facilities, we see that there is no more effective defense, but in the complex air defense, physical defense, which we built and

are building for... our facilities, all this together, we hope, all- will still enable us to protect our energy facilities. we are extremely grateful to you for joining our broadcast. svitlana grynchuk, deputy minister of energy of ukraine, was a guest of svoboda ranok. further to the topics of the next 78 caesar artillery installations , france will soon deliver to ukraine, it was announced minister of defense of the country. 155-millimeter howitzers can quickly transfer to ukraine thanks to recent. the financing agreements reached between kyiv, paris and copenhagen. france will also increase the supply of projectiles to the ukrainian capital and is looking for stocks of gunpowder and ammunition that could be purchased in countries outside the european union - so says the french minister. meanwhile, lo figaro writes that in paris there are five scenarios for the deployment of the french contingent in ukraine, from the opening of weapons production plants to

confrontation together in the trenches. other scenarios also involve the participation of the french army in the demining of ukraine, the protection of odesa, as well as the creation of a protection zone by the french army in order to facilitate the fulfillment of tasks by the armed forces in other areas. let me remind you that in february, french president emmanuel macron announced the possibility of sending nato troops to ukraine if the escalation on the part of russia continues. president zelensky, commenting on such a statement, then said that macron was probably referring to training missions of french troops, separate france's nato allies. macron's idea was not supported. taras kuzyu, a british ukrainian political scientist, professor at the national university of kyiv academy, joins our broadcast. welcome to our broadcast, thank you for joining. good day and glory to ukraine. kudos to the heroes, how realistic do you think these scenarios published by the french newspaper are, and whether there is a high probability that the french military will really end up in the trenches together with the ukrainians. well,

i think a lot. and they are skeptical about what macron said because macron himself, he is not predictable, and many criticize him for the fact that he says a lot, but is it meaningful, well, for example, france has not given so much military aid to ukraine so far, maybe it will now to increase, but until now she has not done it and she always... germany criticizes france for this, but on the other hand, i think there is a positive moment here, because france has always thought that she rules europe, and and and and france, and the reason why there has always been anti-americanism in france is the question of who, who should rule europe, and

the french always wanted to do it, now. there are no americans, and biden, and it is obvious how trump will win, especially since macron wants to see himself as the new degol, there is no longer great britain, brexit has happened, so he wants to use this moment to show that europe can be self-sufficient without the americans, without, well, to some extent without the british, but without the americans, and it can be itself... a powerful military power, so to speak, and i think that this is a positive point, that what macron has to do now show that europe can really do it , an independent military can now take place, so to speak, a new structure without the americans, but whether it will work, i don’t know, but it seems to me that

many... he is also praised for this, that he brought to this to this war, this one, i don't know how it will be in ukrainian, strategic ambiguity. and it is very good that the russians do not know and will not know what the west will do, because at some point the russians will always know, for example, that the americans, or the french, or the germans say, no, we cannot do this to them , we cannot give it, then right away, the russians know in advance that they can do much easier, because there will be no counterbalance from the west, i think that here... also a big plus with macron, whether french weapons and armed forces will appear in ukraine, anything can happen. i think that just in that war in ukraine, we can always say that

never say never, because everything can change, and you don't know. i think that we have already seen in europe that we have finally understood that how ukraine will lose the war, and i don't... think that it will lose, but if it were to happen, it would be a huge threat to europe, and i think that they will finally understand it, they have already understood it for a long time on the western borders of ukraine, but unfortunately, it is already beginning to be blurred in western europe, i think that these here are many big pluses, taras , that is, this is a game of strategic uncertainty, which russia used to play, it is not clear what to expect, and now such an initiative. it can be said that macron intercepted, but can ukrainians in this sense expect such, you know, constant support, constant understanding of what is there, well at least paris is definitely active, so to speak, a participant in all these processes, will

support ukraine, and that behind these loud statements are not just some political benefits of macron personally or someone else, some other politician, but what is really behind it specific actions? well, i think that... without the americans, europe can help ukraine enough for it to defend itself, that is, for the lines that exist now, they will not change so much, but the problem is, i think, without the american help, i don't know if ukraine and europe together, they will have enough weapons, er... to liberate south-eastern ukraine from the russian occupation, this is another issue, because this, it seems to me, requires american help to only to protect what is now

under the control of kyiv, i think europe has sufficient opportunities to help ukraine, but the second question is how ukraine can do it. as for the question of liberating the occupied territory, this is already a big question, well, one more thing, there may also be a resource to help and indeed there is a lot to give, which is there, but there are such things as defending ukraine, liberating the south-east of ukraine, this is already the second issue, because we saw last year, it will be very difficult, they just allowed it, it was the americans, the germans allowed it 8-9 months after this is what happened. in kharkiv in september 22 , unfortunately, they gave the russians 8-9 months to build fortifications, mines and mobilize, no matter how they did it, ukraine would have liberated these areas a long time ago, but now it

will be very difficult, and i don't think it is possible without american help, but i would still like to ask you about the visit of the french president, he is in brazil for a three-day visit and aims, as he writes: at least bloomberg to convince his brazilian colleague luluva to take a position on russia's war against ukraine, because he has repeatedly rejected the idea of ​​providing weapons to ukraine, arguing that the strategy of the us and the eu undermines the prospect of a negotiated end to the war. do you think macron will be able to convince him? i doubt brazil, because there in latin america in general has a lot of anti anti-americanism, it is very deep, and i think that the supporters in ukraine, it is, it is mainly colombia, there are a lot of volunteers from colombia, even, they, they are fighting on the side of ukraine, and argentina and

chile, i don't know, i doubt that it is possible to take the side of ukraine in brazil, because it is too deeply anti-american there, ugh, i thank you for joining, taras kuzyvo, british, ukrainian political scientist, professor at the national university. kyiv-mohyla academy, later on the air bohdan logunov with good news. congratulations, here are some important news, in short. there will be at least 200 in ukraine this year . deputy minister of education and science mykhailo vynnytskyi gave such data to ukrainian radio. shinovnyk says that last year the figure was at the same level. this year, for admission, it will be necessary to pass a national multi-subject test, not a traditional external independent assessment. it will contain tasks from four subjects at once and will last four hours. entrants, he says, for the minister, can take nmt, even abroad. 28 countries have already agreed to open testing centers. the representatives of ukraine at eurovision 2024

will sing number five in the first semi-final. alona alona and jerry hale will take the stage on may 7. the final of the song contest will be held on may 11, before which the representatives of ukraine have to go through the selection process. for a long time, the singers were predicted to win the contest, at least this was evidenced by the data of bookmakers. now alyona alyona and jerry hale are in third place, ahead of them are artists from italy and croatia. the film 20 days in mariupol by the ukrainian director mstislav chernov became record holder for views on streaming services, as reported by forbes ukraine. in its premiere weekend, the film gathered a record number of viewers on several platforms at once. in 2023, the film became the highest-grossing documentary film in ukraine. she collected uah 500,000 only for the first weekend of rental. this is the first ukrainian film to win an oscar. this is all important for the moment, look even more in radio liberty's social networks, facebook,

instagram, tiktok and network x. and then some news about sports. after the victory over iceland with a score of 2:1, the national football team of ukraine qualified for euro 2024, where it will be represented in group e. ukraine's opponents will be belgium, romania and slovakia. the 17th european football championship will take place from june 14 to july 14 this year in nîmes. today, a football commentator, yarema chuyko, joins our broadcast, congratulations, yaremo , tell me, you know, for people who don't know much about football, but was it predicted that the national team of ukraine would come to euro-2024 and what are the prospects? congratulations kateryna, well, first of all i will say that it is really very much it was predictable, because the opponents are those who were there bosnia, iceland, this is yesterday 's match, these are in particular opponents that need to be passed, if they... to be passed, then

in general it is not worth going to the euros then, for sure, and therefore for bigger fans, experts , after all, it was not a surprise, maybe even a certain surprise, that in the first and second matches we had very serious difficulties, if we speak in general about the group for the euros, this is belgium, romania , slovakia, i will start, first of all, with romania and slovakia, after all, they are rivals that we are definitely in the teeth of, we are definitely stronger than them, and we need to pass them, if we focus on belgium, it is like... the groups say, there is a constant change of generations, and now we can only talk about the leaders there debruy and lukaku, and other football players, they can definitely change, in general already on the eve of the euros, it is very, very difficult to predict their composition, so for now we can say that we can also play with belgium, and there is such an important nuance, that with groups can practically even be said to it's easier to get out than not to get out, it's easier not to get out than to get out because... really almost always three teams get out of each group,

two teams directly, and the top four teams out of the other six, they also have a chance to go through, so we can to say that we have a pretty decent chance, and in general, according to the composition that we have, mostly these are people who perform in europe and they are at a good level, so we can say that we have a pretty decent chance, but it is very important , this is how all football players will fit in physical form in general. to euromudial, because unexpected injuries happen very often in april-may, and this can definitely affect the squad and generally affect the physical fitness of the football players, but we hope that this will not affect our national team, and our team will not disappoint the fans at euro-2024. yaremo, that is , the state of the ukrainian national team in general, it is not bad, you can say, but you have certain expectations, quite decent, quite decent. the condition of the team in fact, because i

will repeat again that football players perform in europe, for example, the same dovbek, the same tsygankov, in the premier league of england, mykolenko, in particular, yesterday also showed a very good match, we hope he will get in shape, and these people definitely have to show results, this is their peculiar, even such a peak of form, and indeed for many opponents, our national team will not be such a dark horse. is a very serious rival, and they are already talking about it , they emphasize that you can expect surprises from ukraine, but i will repeat again that it is very, very important, in what physical shape the football players will be, so... there are still very difficult championships and in the example and in the premier league for our boys and about the championship of ukraine , you should also not forget to follow, thank you for mentioning the specific surnames of yarem chuyko , the football columnist was a guest of svoboda ranok , by the way, write in the comments and do you follow for football

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intelligent opinions for you, in our country second only to war, corruption, sociology, money, money, housing. yes, and that's exactly about her let's talk, because it is about two very high-profile cases, the first of them was about , well, what we were talking about, 17 eggs, as bereznikov said, and other products for the armed forces of ukraine, this is actually the largest part of the military budget of the ministry of defense , and that's where colonel oleksandr kozlovsky, you've heard of him, haven't you? somehow he managed to collect 170 million hryvnias for his family, and all this actually took place during the time after the full-scale invasion, at that time there was no vice in the ministry of defense, there were various chiefs, generals and others

in different ways, so it is very interesting to see how the investigation of this food case of the logistics colonel will proceed. and the armed forces of ukraine, and the military told us about logistics for two years in a row that they don't join, they always complain about it, so what's the situation here, they temporarily get him behind bars, but they offered the option that you can leave for now, just for this you have to pay a deposit of 6 million, yes, but there is a nuance, arithmetic? yes, you have to complete it, because actually there is a nuance in all that, which, well, 6 million collateral is good, but the question is how much there is still a little left, there is enough for breadcrumbs, water , and also something to give to relatives, an equally high-profile case concerned the former head

of the antimonopoly committee, pavlo kyrylenka, and our colleagues from the investigators from the scheme program established that he also had and... the family does not have any businesses, but there is 70 million, there was, there was, because now there are not millions, but now there is something that was bought for these 70 million, well, everything has been converted into cars, apartments, plots of land, but in this you it doesn't matter, it's about the fact that there is no business, and what is most interesting, as it has already become known, and the status of none for the former head of the antimonopoly committee. for a minute, as comrade akhmetov would say , this is amku, the antimonopoly committee, the holy place of the namolin, don't believe me, ask renata, the story of how the shares of the sterol plant, the relatives of kyrylenka, were sold, and they bought a lot of everything for it, we will ask about details

of such a scheme in georgy shabayev, an investigative journalist of the radio liberty scheme project, georgy, we welcome you to our airwaves, congratulations. mr. hegoria, it was correct, pavlo kyrilenko found an apple in the vicinity of the sterol plant, washed it, sold it , bought two apples with this money, washed it, sold it more expensively, yes, and that’s how he became a millionaire, or was there some other scheme, the point is in the fact that in the course of the investigation we found out that a lot of property with a total market value of about 70 million hryvnias was recorded on kirylenko's father-in-law and test, and as he told us later... kirylenko himself told us in the comments, and as his mother-in-law, they, their family, that is, in 1997, kyrylenka's grandmother 's wife profitably sold the shares of the sterol plant, which... is under occupation in horlivka

, and at that time they bailed out about $ 40,000. , but again, we drew attention to the fact that this property began to appear, especially expensive, valuable property, and it began to appear in these residential complexes exactly when pavlo kyrylenko headed the donetsk regional state administration, that is, before that, they somehow lived without this property. but later began to invest very seriously in real estate, in land plots, in houses, in apartments in uzhgorod, in kyiv, in cars and even in commercial real estate, where the dance studio is now located, here, in this case, what status does pavlo kyrylenka have , yesterday somewhere i came across information that he has no status, that is , in nabu and sap, well, it seems that there is a question, but he is not a suspect. witness, nothing is clear, no, the question is that on march 21 we published an investigation, on march 22

the national anti-corruption bureau and sap, the anti-corruption prosecutor's office , they have registered a criminal proceeding, that is , while the investigation of this criminal proceeding is ongoing, a person cannot yet be suspected or accused in any case, that is, as of now, as far as i understand, the detectives of nabu, the prosecutors of sab'. they are gathering some evidence base, they are checking some information, whether the information from our investigation there really corresponds to, let's say, reality, i think they will also try to get the same sales contracts there, analyze the property status , the income of kyrylenka's relatives, maybe they will be able to analyze how this property was acquired, whether on the instructions of pavel kyrylenka himself, or if he somehow helped in the purchase of this property, again, well, let's hope that there will be no pressure to these

institutions, to buisab, since we learned that pavlo kyrylenko was being considered for the post of prosecutor general of ukraine, instead, and that is why we had questions, and whether there will be, let's say, the will to open proceedings, to investigate it within the framework of criminal proceedings, we see now that the case is open, and... we hope that they will be able to thoroughly investigate this case without influence, without pressure from one or another force. you talked about potential pressure on nabu, on sap, but there is still the issue of pressure on journalists, actually on investigators, have you faced that, or have you faced that in schemes, and secondly, what does this cooperation look like, then, do you provide materials that you have obtained during . precisely to the relevant authorities, in order to possibly simplify their work, to speed up this process. in fact, really, well, the pressure

on journalists, i don’t know, i personally didn’t directly face, yes, i faced some issues when they tried to get access to correspondence in telegram, that is, they really almost entered my account in telegram, but two-factor saved me there authentication, i.e. maintain access to some persons. data, i think certain forces have it, and as for the second question, actually, how we cooperate, here, most likely, law enforcement agencies have enough of their own tools for in order to get the official income of the kirolenko family, in order to get the property purchase and sale contracts, that is, which was purchased there in the last 3-4 years, that is, the law enforcement officers know how to get all this themselves. if, of course, they ask us to share certain information, or it often happens that we

are called for questioning as witnesses in certain criminal proceedings, then of course we can provide that information there as part of what it was made public in a journalistic investigation, and also can be questioned in this criminal case proceedings, but again, this story is not very conventionally speaking complicated, i.e. if , for example, the head of the antimonopoly committee was appointed through a competition, and it was not a political position for which the verkhovna rada votes there, she had time to familiarize herself there for a day or two, and that's all, and let's appoint already , it turns out, then the public would have the opportunity to trace the property status of the kyrylenka family, to trace his success in the position of the head of the donetsk regional state administration and among other candidates who also applied. would to this place, but it turns out, that society, the public , journalists, they will already know after the fact, after a person has been appointed the head of the antimonopoly

committee, that there are certain, let's say, questions about the origin of the funds for all this property, and if possible, these are important details, we see a sharp growth of elite property precisely at the time that coincides with the head of the state administration, and the head of the state administration is the vertical of the president, and to what extent now, well, very independent antimonopoly bodies, as tataru would say, are ready... for the vertical, you know , it is very good question, and here the task of the state is not to interfere in the activities that anti-corruption bodies are engaged in, that is, in the west, in the united states, in europe, let's say, they understand that certain, possibly corrupt, cases may take place in ukraine. when there really is an unknown

origin of the property, the same odessa military commissars do. so on and so forth, but again, europe will look, the west will look not at whether there are corrupt people or not, but at whether they are fighting this problem or not, and the fight against this problem, it is very simple, you just don't need to interfere in the work of anti-corruption bodies, let them calmly conduct their investigation, bring it, relatively speaking, to suspicion or not, after suspicion, do not influence judges. of the higher anti-corruption court, which in the future may consider the issue of choosing a punishment there, or vice versa , an acquittal, we will of course look, but again, it is important here, it is important that there is no pressure, so that the people who will investigate it can do their work competently, and this is the most important thing, that is, here the state does not need to do any extraordinary efforts, the only extraordinary effort

that needs to be done is simply to observe. and do one's work, and not try to influence one or another process, mr. gregory, and one more important point, pavel kyrylenk's highest earnings were when he was the head of the donetsk regional military administration, 846 thousand, well, 847 hryvnia, if he didn't eat anything, didn't buy anything, just fed on air for 83 years without change. pay, he would finally could buy, then all hope is on the mother-in-law and other relatives, they are cool businessmen, talented uh, to be honest, while researching this issue, i also had a question about whether they have a business, since - maybe the topic itself was not , if we found out that these are really cool, really businessmen who

have millions of contracts there, i don't know, well... who have a lot of income, then there really wouldn't be a topic, well, they buy for themselves and they buy property, okay, but here, of course, there is a question that is not even in the register of individuals and legal entities there is no information about them, there is no information that they once had such large fortunes, they lived in horlivka, then moved to kyiv, in kyiv they lived in some not very prestigious apartment, but then again, yes coincided at the time that they started buying this property exactly when pavlo kyrilenko was in the donetsk administration, here the nuances actually emerged from sources on wikipedia, available to everyone, there is information that kyrilenko's parents live in the territory occupied by the russian federation, we understand that it is difficult to leave, but it's possible actually, huh his older brother yevhen worked in

the security forces of ukraine, in the 14th year he switched to the side of... pro-russian terrorists and works as an operative in the so-called ministry of state security, the so-called dpr, that 's the story, you see, some additional things are emerging and the main thing is to dig , then everything becomes more interesting. mr. higoriy, hang on, because it is not yet known how things will go , giorgiy shabaev, journalist, investigator of the radio liberty project, is always ready to lend a hand . further. news time, actually we have already gone a little over our time. khrystyna parubiy is ready to talk about the most important things. thank you for waiting until we finished and listening to you now. thank you, colleagues, i will tell you about the work of our air defense and the situation in the regions later in the issue, as well as about the losses of the enemy, in a moment.