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on our broadcast, thank you for joining, good morning, tell me, describe what is the general situation in the city due to these constant shelling by russian forces? yes, the main impact was on the energy structure, you know that, and for the last week we had such a permanent struggle to provide light to the houses of kharkiv residents, to restore networks, to restore heat supply, and hot water. cold water, i.e. communal services, our kps were working energy distribution there, oblenergo worked in the maximum such mode, more tasks performed, despite the fact that there is now a system, let’s say a city blackout, the city is divided into four sectors, i am in the shevchenkivskyi district, and this is also the kyivskyi district, and our lights go out from 9 a.m. to... well, approximately this schedule adheres to,
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at this time, well, in my house, we are switching to a generator powerful enough to work, the fire alarm, lighting, pumps were pumping water, and even passenger elevators were running in the house, that's why such intense work is going on because of the shelling, well, yesterday i was at the scene and it is not far from my house and the explosion. i saw when it happened, you can say that this ammunition, it is not as powerful as we are used to, well, for example, these are the rockets that came, there is less, less explosive inside, but it fell very much between two houses five-story buildings, clearly, it did not sink into the ground, that is, the entire explosion went horizontally to the sides, and you can see the results, these are the windows, these are the balconies that were blown away. and injured people,
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most of them from broken glass, injuries, seizures, well, not such things, and one person who was directly on the playground, she died, as for the night shelling, so somewhere in the second or third night, there were several events in the city with martyrs, they flew both from the north and from the the sides of the poltava region entered, turned around, intermittently almost throughout the night. an air alarm was sounded, most of these shaheds were shot down , i understand that they were shot down, but this is what you were doing now, the footage showed, two such ones flew over, these are shevchenko and the kyiv district, and this is our not far from me, i also heard these explosions at night, well, this is the situation, if we talk about the possibility for people to somehow, well, go to shelters in general, how realistic are they. situation, are
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there enough shelters and is there enough time to get there? well, look, our people in kharkiv are already like that, you know, not angry at all, they are not very worried about this anxiety, well, it’s true, we have to admit that after the siren sounded, the phone received messages from regional state military administration, yes, well it is not particularly fast to go down to the bomb shelter, well, it is true, but... but when they started to turn off the lights, it was clear that people are already gathering, well, at this time, why sit in that apartment, go down, because there is internet, there is, well, using the word house as an example , i say that there is internet, there is light, there is an opportunity to make coffee there, even to heat up some lunch there, so people go downstairs, but in the house there are a number of it workers who work for them , namely the computer, they take their own.
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say, laptops go down and work there in these 6 hours, while there is no light, that is, this is what makes people go, well, in fact, to the shelter, and in another way, well, we are already used to going down to the shelter here in kharkov, when we had a c300 that flies there for a year and a half well , it's literally 20-30 seconds from belgorod oblast, and there's already an explosion in kharkiv, and we're already so used to it, you know, well, where to go down, well, until you get there, until the elevator. while on foot, everything is over, we have to go back, well, this is the situation, but in principle, these shelters are all working, points of invincibility, the subway worked in bomb shelter mode, so now it has already been launched, it is there even up to 12 minutes between trains, it runs, ground transport is not started due to the fact that there is not enough electricity, this means tram, trolleybus, but buses are running , there are minibuses. it all
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works, well, so, so, this is the algorithm of life now in kharkiv, well, this is how you described your shelter, if all were such shelters, maybe, really, as you say, more people would go there , especially in times when. ..... there is a disconnection light, and yes, to a greater extent, we are all a bit fatalistic in this sense and have become, but the reality is that in a few seconds , as you describe, it is really difficult to have time to go to the shelter, nevertheless, of course, we encourage everyone to use the shelters during air alarms. bohdan, thank you for joining, thank you, have a nice day, thank you in return, bohdan tkachuk, deputy of the kharkiv district council, was a guest of svoboda ranok. in the meantime, you can take an active part in our broadcast, ask your questions below. in the streams, also comment on what you heard from the guests of this broadcast, what you agree with, what you do not agree with, what is the situation with shelters, by the way, in your city, you can name specific locations, it is interesting, later on the broadcast we will talk about that, and how the ukrainian state wants to democratize the demographic crisis
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in general and do something about it, this is an interesting topic, it is important and there is even such an initiative to increase payments before the birth of a child, we will discuss all this in a few seconds. the president of ukraine believes that when the war ends, there will be a birth boom in ukraine, on he believes that people will return to ukraine because of confidence in the future. my colleague bohdan logunov knows why ukraine started talking about demography, he will now tell us all the details. bohdan, congratulations, tell me what is happening with the birth rate in ukraine? greetings katya, greetings to the audience. the day before, volodymyr zelenskyy spoke to students about the birth rate. who of the state university when asked about state programs aimed at stimulating fertility, zelenskyi said that the priority here is security, i i think the biggest incentive is safety,
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what to do next with the child, and it is necessary not only to stimulate financially, because , in my opinion, finances help, but they... do not stimulate during wartime, birth itself. the prime minister of ukraine denys shmagal recently mentioned the number of children. on the air of the telethon, he stated that every ukrainian family should have at least three children if ukraine were to have prospects. according to him, at least 1 million children are currently abroad, and in general , the demographic situation in the country, i quote: extremely heavy. the task is to return these families, to return these... children, and also to motivate ukrainians to give birth to as many children as possible. in order for ukraine to prosper in its peaceful future after our victory. in general, every ukrainian family should have at least three children. the ukrainian institute
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of demography and social research has repeatedly stated the difficult situation with the population, and according to the ministry of health, in 2023, on average , about 16,100 children were born in ukraine every month. to full-scale second. the number of babies ranged from 21,000 to 23,000 per month. the parliament started to motivate ukrainian families to give birth to children. there they registered a draft law, which proposes to increase the amount of assistance in the event of the birth of a child tenfold. they want to tie the payments to the living wage, which is in effect at the time of the child's birth. for the second and third child , a reduction in the amount of the allowance is foreseen, and , according to the prime minister, they plan to attract money from abroad. however, ela libanova, director of the institute of demography and of social research, notes that both the world and ukrainian experience speak of a short-term effect of the introduction or increase of assistance at the birth of a child. thank you, bohdan, for researching this topic, i encourage our viewers to write in the comments:
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what would motivate you to give birth to more than one child, and especially three, as the prime minister calls for this, we will discuss this topic further. bohdan, thank you. later in the broadcast , we will talk with the people's deputy of ukraine, who submitted this bill and arrested it in the verkhovna rada, olga saladukha, a member of the verkhovna rada committee on youth and sports, joined our broadcast. congratulations, olya, thank you for joining. good morning, studio, good morning, thank you for the invitation. why do you think that an increase in child benefits will stimulate the birth rate in ukraine? you call it, you wrote the material there, the basic driving factor, is that really true? now, if we go deeper, we understand that people are the greatest value of any state, and the full-scale war with russia caused us many losses, and it is about those who are now died at the front, in the rear, about those who went abroad from the country and their return is now under question about those young families who
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planned to have children, but because of hostilities, they gave up on it, and just now no one can even be sure to say how many people live in post-war ukraine, and... but even optimists talk about the figure of 30 million, and we do not see such prerequisites for the so-called baby boom, and i myself became a mother for the second time in august, i talked with a young man. mothers, communicated with women who wanted to to give birth, but with the arrival of a full-scale invasion, they gave up on this idea, and thus this idea crept into me , i was convinced that it was necessary to conduct general statistics, analysis of the demographic situation in ukraine, and therefore my team and i carried out calculations, collected all official data from the departments, and in fact the demographic problems began... long before the 22nd year, and if you and i remember the 91st year, when we
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had a beautiful map on television and there was an advertisement that we have 52 million people in the country, already in the 21st this year, this number was 43.8 million. therefore , the birth rate stopped, and if we take statistical data for 20 for 2020, then about 200. children were born in us, then last year in 20-23, about 185 thousand children, that is, an increase was by almost 40%, and a very interesting factor, if we take the first child in the family, then in the 20th year 118,00 mothers gave birth, then in the 23rd year it was only 13.3 babies, so here the scale of the failure of the birth rate in general is 90 %. you pointed out that this scale and demographic problems, they were there before the full-scale invasion, before the big war,
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sociologists note this, and i wonder if you consulted with them, well, that is, why such an initiative at all, well, that is, if you want to offer the state to pay more money for children at birth, then this means that this is the main factor, but as they say sociologists, the same ella libanova, whom we quoted earlier, that this is not the main factor, the fall was earlier, it is generally in... european countries such a common story and how can this surcharge correct the situation even in a situation when the budget in principle not enough money for the needs that are already there now? and so there was a drop, but not by 90%, and if we take the help from the state now, it is a payment of 41,200 hryvnias, and it has not increased for almost 10 years, and it was now observed colossal inflation, that is, the tool... gradually lost its effectiveness, we see that if 10 years ago it was 400 dollars or euros,
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now 4 hryvnias is 4100 hryvnias - hundreds of dollars, and young parents, they are simply afraid to give birth, they do not know what to count on, for what to feed children, that's why we we propose to tie the allowance at the birth of a child to the size of the subsistence minimum, that is, to have a clear legal norm, and we proposed to establish the allowance. 150 as the subsistence minimum for the first child, 100 for the second and 50 for the third, that is , to stimulate young families to give birth to children for the first time, because the second or third child is already, well , when it is the second child, parents already take such a step consciously that they want two children, the main thing here right now are those who are afraid, those who are afraid of the war, how they will live, that is, the incentive should be like this, so that we see a 90% drop. 79 and 13,000 is a lot , and those who are afraid that the war will cost them 400,000, well , almost 4,000 for the first child, they will somehow
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convince them, and sociologists also note that the problem is also in migration, in the fact that there are ukrainian women , they left, and the rest of the people who remain there are ukrainians, they simply do not have stability during the war and do not want to give birth there, they are afraid to give birth, how can such an amount of money, any amount of money, correct it, when, when the amount is 41,000, then they they are afraid when the amount will be in size. 38,000 and 3 years they will receive 9,00 each, this is an amount that will help young parents to have a child, that is why they will also have such an incentive to issue a so-called baby voucher, that is, we leave everything, we simply increase the living wage for young breeds, or when you were writing this bill, did you consult with sociologists , for example, of course, we collected a lot of data, talked to all the institutes, and the calculations were not just off the top of our heads, we understand that now the country's first priority is... defense, we understand all this, but the second problem is demography, we have, when
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we collected statistical data, more than 400 children were taken away by the russians, by the russian country, i even spoke about this in the european parliament, how many children do we see, how many of our the country is losing, how many have died, how many missing children are still unknown, therefore such an incentive should not be populist for... there is an incentive for the birth of children, it should be gradually raised, that is , if you understand that in 3 years you will have support from the state also has to convince the people. the first child, president zelenskyi, by the way, says that in his opinion money helps, but cannot be such a stimulating factor, but nevertheless, let's see how your colleagues support this bill and see in the comments whether it convinces ukrainians to give birth more. thank you for joining our broadcast, svoboda ranok, olga seladukha, a member of the verkhovna rada committee on youth and sports, was a guest of our broadcast. thanks to all our
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viewers for being with us, subscribe to our channel, support us with likes, see you at. good morning to those who just joined the espresso, thank you for watching and don't forget to support our defenders, we have very little left, in fact, 269 hryvnias, but that's for sure, and then we will be able to. in the meantime, we are gathering information for you from all over the world . one twitter was completely unexpected, and therefore our next conversation
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with journalist and political scientist from serbia, boris vargana, will be unexpected. with our studio. boris, welcome, good man. welcome, we found you glory to ukraine. hero of glory. can you translate from vučić language, at least into serbian, or from vučić into ukrainian, what kind of tweet was it, that we will be, we are preparing, serbia is preparing and will fight for its independence, was the rakia strong, or something serious ? oh, roman, oksana , only you heard about it now, and we have been listening to this tone for the last few years after rakia or something from vučić, that is, if there is any international pressure on belgrade, especially on vučić, he has been in power for more than 10 years, then
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he starts quarreling with himself from the mass media against the west , he quarrels with the opposition and no one has taken it seriously for years. and this is not the version that some of us started writing that, in my opinion, russia wants to start a new war in the balkans and threatens serbia, this is what actually appeared, these cries, these threats. the quarrels were, as they say, a prelude to a full-scale invasion of ukraine. everyone believed that the western balkans region was surrounded by nato and eu countries, and the serbian army was defeated during the air nato strikes at the end of the 90s, and there is nothing to be afraid of, but here it turns out that
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another such potential conflict is igniting just around the corner. that is, it is already there somewhere outside the borders of nato, it is just in this yard, and i would name three reasons here: why is vuchic fighting, why is he crying? and the first is the pressure that is really on him because his party won the election, but of course it's not fair, and that's what it's about... in a report that was recently released by the european union and brussels, the international community, and i i will tell you, elections in serbia more and more similar to those in russia, and serbia is there somewhere turned back, there somewhere where ukraine before before the orange revolution, that great pressure to repeat the elections, they will have elections in june in
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belgrade, and belgrade is so, belgrade is so indicative city, that is, if... the ruling party loses belgrade, then it is believed that a change may also occur. the second reason why the teacher is crying, and this is that he is crying because of kosovo, the political committee of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe gave a recommendation to kosovo that until membership and entry into this organization, voting will take place in paria. inside, if you know for sure, in april, and he follows azerbaijan, vuchich announced the termination of cooperation with pere, if this happens. this, well , they say that this is just political rhetoric, as they say, but in the conditions of war in
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ukraine, everything must be taken seriously, and there is also a third reason why, and this is the neighboring republic of bosnia and herzegovina, that is, the former yugoslavia a republic where the representative of the international community of this protectorate imposed politics. representative in shifts to to the law on elections, and there were very different, contradictory reactions, and dodik is already threatening that he will secede, that he will declare independence in general, here he teaches him such and such and openly now, he openly helps, mr. boris, but he promised teaches that in the near future he will decipher his... encrypted words, that is , the vital national interests of serbia, which are threatened by something, has he already shed light on this, has he already explained to the people what
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to expect and, in principle, is this characteristic of serbia and then explain what was happening, or just throw in simple phrases, intimidation, and then nothing, and people are simply used to it, absolutely as i told you, he is constantly for... internal political needs and such discourse , he constantly tells how threatened serbia is, i will tell you now the interests, well, about, that is, this is the political marketing of one nationalist leader and the leader of the party, which he somewhere, i cannot say, leads, but this is his party, this is for his internal political need, usually. we for the past 10-12 years, we have heard such statements, and now it is because the problem is not only with serbia, but there is also kosovo and bosnia, he
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starts threatening from the west, and in particular the eu, and says that here i guarantee you peace, and you are so bad at putting pressure on me that i pretended to have falsified the election. but among these three destabilizing factors, well , first of all, the kosovo issue is real, it is very sensitive for ukraine, in particular, because according to this principle of recognition of kosovo's independence, it would actually mean a mirror image for ukraine to recognize crimea as independent, which entered russia, this is more or less clear for us, it is less clear with bosnia, because it is such a composition in general. one entity, the only thing we know is that dodyk has been on fire more than once in his vatno-putin position, even stolen things from ukraine were found in his possession,
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remember those scandals, so in this case bosnia and herzegovina, which is really also threatened , as such territory is destabilized, there can be this way out, as it threatens, the collapse of bosnia and herzegovina? i think you are right, and the most serious problem of the western balkans now is bosnia-herzegovina, and here a lot is happening at the day-to-day level of such various various obstructions as the constitutional court, the political system in general, the electoral system, i.e. dodik is threatening secessionism, but for the first time we have western special services , the american special services two weeks ago... released a serious report that the republika srpska and socialism there could be a potential such hot spot, what dodik will be, he will choose when this
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moment is, and it really directly depends on the situation at the front, fine, but then that’s the way out, boris, it turns out that we are returning to some very old-school historical and, well, the option that the balkans are like a powder keg of europe, absolutely and in this case you will return to serbia, because at times, visually and informationally, serbia was more pro-russian than russia, in those tricolors and, accordingly, in zma, it sometimes looked scarier than, i don't know, in salaviov. how does it look now? then this game continues on the information machine of the russian military propaganda, or something has it changed? and... absolutely , not much has changed, it is changing, if it is happening, i am already saying that there is some pressure on uchich, but as when some elections are approaching, now they will be in
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belgrade, then... colors, eagles, the russian orthodox brotherhood, the serbian-russian world , the serbian-russian peace , as it is called, we constantly hear about it here, and it is true that they say that what happened in the former yugoslavia, we now have in such an enlarged version that they say that milosevic was a little putin, such , which... could be bombed somewhere and and and and, like that they say that an international tribunal will be brought before the truth, but now it will be, now it will be more difficult, when we are already talking about international peacekeepers, then macron talks about sending troops as possible, opens such a dialogue in the eu at the event about sending troops to ukraine, but surely they they will have to send troops to bosnia and herzegovina,
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they understand that. know and understand that if russia wins on the ukrainian front, then a new front will certainly appear among them, and it will certainly be in bosnia and herzegovina, therefore that it is possible that nato really defeated the serbian army and the army of the republika srpska, but the political reality is such that, as you said, there is euphoria, people simply because of the media, because of that revanchism. because serbia lost the wars in the 90s, and now russia is promising them , we will now return all that you lost, you will now be able to get what you want, and this is such, well, in such dimensions of the balkans, the great serbian idea, and really this one is serious, another hot spot and montenegro, we should not forget about it, and it is as
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a member of... nato, it threatens it, and several such crisis moments, mr. boris, we have literally two minutes, and i wanted to ask whether the european union can now balance all that russia is doing, shaking the situation in the balkans, in particular, i am talking about the fact that they decided to start accession negotiations with bosnia and herzegovina, in fact the expansion of europe, it is not only about ukraine and moldova now, it is not only a hand to the side. georgia, but also to the balkans. how do you see it? yes of course. the western balkans were thrown somewhere behind the stove there, and no one dealt with them until full, full-scale russia's invasion of ukraine. indeed, a ukrainian initiative, a ukrainian international, as they say, ah, connections and a new candidate status. in the eu is also pushing
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for the eu to do something more and devote more of its respect to the western balkans, because the western balkans really have become so pro, i.e. nationalist, when they say nationalist in our country, then they are anti-democratic, pro-russian, anti-western, i.e. because the european union actually two tenths. did nothing to somehow improve the opportunities for the integration of this region into in the eu, in fact, such euphoria happened , in fact, there was a vuchych and dodik and various populists of this type, that is, it can be said of course that ukraine helped the western balkans to come into focus again, so that negotiations with bosnia and herzegovina were now opened, so what here
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we have a common enemy, we are simply united by the fight against a common enemy, mr. boris, thank you for your thoughts, for your analysis, boris varga, a journalist and political scientist from serbia, was in touch with us, and now is the time for news, and khrystyna parubiy already has one prepared information you are willing to share. thank you, colleagues, the russians attacked odesa in the morning, i will tell you the details of the attack in the issue, as well as the situation in other regions of ukraine in a moment. news on the espresso airwaves, i'm khrystyna porubiy, i'll tell you about the most relevant things at the moment. the russians continue to terrorize odesa. in the morning, the occupiers hit the region with an kh-59 missile. it was destroyed over aqua. of the black sea -
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