the place of kyiv, i think that only in this scenario it is about it, plus probably also training, help in the matter of security, and weapons, but but in france, as well as what i think is interesting now that france has completely changed its point of view, for example, at the nato congress in vilnos last july, france for the first time... supports ukraine's membership in nato, ah, and this means that the largest, largest country that does not support is the united states the states of america, and the germans are obviously behind them, as well as scholz, and even then - france changed its point of view, but this does not mean that it will immediately dry up the army, no, it is about what, if such a thing happened. a bad

scenario for ukraine, if kyiv would be really threatened, i think so, but so far it is not threatened, i doubt that it will be like that, by the way, the prime minister, the prime minister of italy george meloni said, that i personally told macron about my disagreement with his words about the deployment of troops to ukraine, i will quote, i did not agree with macron’s words, he was told about it, i do not agree with him and i am convinced that we should pay attention to that. what tones do we use, well, obviously, both macron and the leaders of western europe in general talk about or allow such possibilities regarding the participation of their troops on the territory of ukraine, taking into account the threats that exist from russia towards western europe, eastern europe, first of all , the baltic countries, putin once again said that this is complete nonsense, that... about the possibility

of a russian attack on nato countries, they say, the disproportionate military potential of russia and the united states of america and added that the allies of the united states of america are in vain are afraid let's listen to a small fragment of the kremlin grandfather. do i have to? this is complete nonsense, the possibility of an attack on some other countries, poland, the baltic countries, they scare the czechs with this. this is a complete delusion, this is another way to deceive your people and... knock out additional costs for people, make them carry this burden on their shoulders, that's all. here one could say very simply, putin always lies when he says something, he always said that he would not attack ukraine. he said that he would not do the first, the second, the third still, in your opinion, mr. taras, should the north atlantic alliance prepare for war with russia? well, they are. they are already

saying this publicly, yes, i am here and this and why macron, when he now starts talking about such things, i think that in western europe they already understand, as eastern europe understood a long time ago, that if it happened that ukraine would lost the war, then they are next, nobody trusts putin, he is simply the biggest liar in the history of ludstvo. and there are many examples where his ambassadors or kremlin leaders themselves, they one day or two days before a full-scale attack on ukraine, they said that no, we will not repeat it, no one, no one believes him, and it is obvious that the only way to stop russia is with weapons, and this is understandable, i think that here here, here already... there has been a revolution of consciousness

among europeans that they are next, and this is very important, and this is why macron is criticized less in europe, such as in washington, but it is connected with what i say , that the biden administration is very weak, as it has always been, and that nothing has changed, for the last time, when the united states and america supported ukraine, ukrainian... membership in nato, it was george bush in 2008, it was a long time ago. mr. taras, can you imagine that after what putin is doing in ukraine, that something will be agreed with him, and there will be some negotiations, that he will be among the people who previously shook his hand until 2022, and he was simply at all the summits, there was also a large family. and the g20, he was one of

the main heroes of all these summits, we remember it very well, and whether or not it will turn out that what they will welcome him, they will at all. mother people in the world, well, we have to remember that the biggest export from russia, it was corruption, it wasn't oil and or gas, it was corruption, they exported it, and it had a certain influence in the west, putin used oligarchs who were sitting in london, cyprus, france, austria and so on, and so on, we remember schroeder. the former german chancellor who became the leader, the head of northstream first, then i'm not i'm not surprised that there were many examples of where turned a blind eye to what russia was doing, either in

georgia, or in ukraine in the 14th year, or in syria, and and and and, but we remember, i think. that it is necessary to remember that a lot has changed in the 22nd year, and i very much doubt that it is possible to go back to what, what was, because too much has changed, and, well, for example, now europe no longer uses european oil and gas, it imports secondary sources, and i don't think there will be a return to that, but obviously there always will be. bagpipes are everywhere, and they will be in western europe also, and in france, germany, all the more so, unfortunately, but, but what happened before the 22nd year, i think, i doubt that they can return. thank you, mr. taras, for

the conversation, it was taras kuzio, a british political scientist, friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and facebook, during our program we are conducting surveys, today we are talking to you... about is it necessary to ban the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you are sitting in front of the tv, take expensive smartphone or phone and vote if you think that the russian orthodox church should be banned in ukraine, 0800 211 381 or 0800 211 382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we will be in touch with oleksandr musienko, director of the center for military legal research, mr. oleksandr. i congratulate you, i congratulate you, today is the day that part of zelensky's interview with cbs news is released, that the russians are preparing for a major offensive, and he can to take place either in may or at the beginning or

throughout june, foreign minister serhiy lavrov said that by may 21 the issue of recognizing volodymyr zelenskyi as the legitimate president of... ukraine may lose its relevance, i don't know if it coincided that way or if they are trying to do something to disperse, let's say, this offensive by may 21, in order to already prove that the legitimacy of president zelenskyi can, that it will not be necessary to confirm, let's listen to what he said, a very short synchronicity, regarding what concerns may 20 and what will happen on may 21 may let's live up to it. maybe we don't need to confess anything? mr. oleksandr, what did he mean by this, that the military offensive will develop so rapidly? i think that this

is still an attempt to conduct such a multi-pronged operation for this offensive, that is , for the preparation of the offensive, the purely military component is one thing, it is clear that a... russian troops and the enemy are preparing to intensify combat actions, achieve advancement, try somewhere, well, actually pass our front line, break and to advance deep is understandable, although you know, i must note here just for the sake of remark that, in principle, the offensive of russian troops is still ongoing, this one is not over yet, there is already so much talk about the next one, in fact this one is still ongoing and they are quite intense we have battles in the east now. but i think that if we now distance ourselves somewhat from the military component itself, and move into such a political and even psychological war element, then it is clear that now russia will press extremely powerfully, they

are already doing it, they are doing it by several directions, these shellings of sumy region, these shellings of kharkiv and kharkiv region, this is incitement, let's say so, and now what... and this somewhat hysteria that russia will go to kharkiv, russia will go to sumy and maybe again to kyiv, and that it could happen soon, and again, no one is ruling it out, can't rule it out while... the war is going on, it's all possible, but at least it's not seen as of now, they're already spreading it, that's one element that there is constant such psychological pressure and psychological terror along with missile terror, and the second is that russia is trying to play, including at the international level, and they get this card again that they say there are no presidential elections in ukraine and therefore... the ukrainian president may lose legitimacy , at the same time, manipulating, absolutely distorting, as they

know very well, the principles and content of ukrainian legislation, i think, and they perfectly understand that in the conditions of martial law, and to ensure the holding of elections, it is technically impossible, let's say, and all the parameters are missing for this to be an election process when the war is going on, but i think that they are trying to shake up this very situation, who is its recipient here... it is necessary to understand, because, of course, it is not the ukrainian people, russia, i i think, to the russians there in russia in the hinterland, to them in general, excuse me on the cymbals, when the deadline is coming up there, when what is happening and so on, they hated ukrainians and, accordingly, the ukrainian president, whoever he was, and will continue to do so, and when there are elections for them, they are not very interested in it, but the recipients should be on the west, which should react in such a way, according to russia, that after all, to convince ukraine to hold elections, you understand, what

a trap, to put pressure on you to hold elections, and they will also conduct offensive actions under this. well, the calculation is very primitive, naive, but they advance it, that is, to shake up the situation in such a way that, they say, the elections must be confirmed, how come the values ​​there and so on, democratic, under this also carry out an offensive, so of course, in such conditions , when...... russia is preparing for a more intensive offensive campaign, it’s not before the elections, here other tasks have to be carried out with the defense of the state, we understand that, but russia wants to disrupt all this, and therefore they will actively send these signals to the west that the president may lose legitimacy and so further. well, kyiv can mutually send a signal that putin is an illegitimate president in general, and his legitimacy can also not be recognized, since he won the legislature. existence in the occupied territories of the ukrainian state, and this result, which he showed there, cannot be considered legitimate,

because there were a lot of violations, temporarily occupied territories, lack of opposition, well , there was a lot, a lot of things there, next to that there was information from scholz, the chancellor of germany, who said, who commented on the prospects of peace talks about stopping. war in ukraine, reminded about the regular meetings of national security advisors and political advisors, the leader of states regarding the implementation of the ukrainian peace formula, i will quote scholz: a number of countries, including ukraine, are now discussing at the level of security advisors how something might look like what can lead to a peace process, but let me make one thing clear: peace is possible at any time, putin just needs to cancel his barbaric campaign and withdraw. troops, everyone is talking about peace, that this peace should be, and it is obvious that in this situation, well

, it remains unclear for now, uh, actually, how do germany and other countries see any kind of conversation with russia about this peace at all, because to tell putin, withdraw the troops there and cancel his barbaric campaign, well, that's not enough, right, that is, in your opinion... does the world have a formula for what, how should there be peace in ukraine? i think that there is no consolidated position, because you see what the situation is, everyone is talking about the fact that in ukraine, well, by the way, please note that olaf scholz uses such a somewhat diplomatic wording, something like this, you know, that is, he says that... russia should withdraw its troops, well, obviously, in order for russia to withdraw its troops, they must be forced

to do it, true, that is, putin will not do it voluntarily, we all understand this perfectly well, how to force them to do, to support ukraine, to provide the necessary weapons, and to provide, in particular, taurus missiles, which are very necessary, and right here in this interview , the german chancellor says that no, there will be no taurus missiles, as this could lead to an escalation and a direct war between russia and nato. that is, he confirms his position, which he expresses, well, during these few weeks, when again the taurus were discussed particularly actively, and when russia wrote this information about the conversation between the luftwaffe and the bundeswehr in singapore, well, this scandal that was leaked information, that is, i have it here too the question arises: well, should russia withdraw its troops from ukraine? i agree, we all agree, but how do you get them to do it without taurus missiles, for example, which are really needed? and in the context of that, by the way, it is not

easy that now, when they are talking about the same missiles, it is not easy to attack, but to defend, to hit russian logistics. and here you see, we are approaching the issue of a consolidated position, the opinion that international law and order should be renewed, and that russia should be punished as an aggressor, it works everywhere, it is an international formula. how to achieve this? here the positions differ, and here we will take the approach of, for example, the french president, who says that it is possible that under certain conditions the french troops may appear, and this is a different position. for example, we have the position of the british, who provide the same stormshadows, which at least fly against the occupiers in crimea, and recently there was a very successful attack last weekend, they hit objects, that is, they went further, they provide these weapons, again after all, there is a position of the united states, and there too

it is interesting, because everyone hears very often that ukraine has already won, or russia, or russia has already lost, implying that ukraine retains its statehood, and kyiv is the capital, it is now under its actual control ukrainian authorities and troops, and in principle, bypassing the topic, what to do with the deoccupation of the territories, that is, talking about what has already happened, and, for example, there are statements by the same british minister of defense, grant shaps, who comes, came to kyiv and on mykhailivska square, he recorded this... appeal, where he said that ukraine should win, or from time to time we hear such formulations from gramstein, but in order for ukraine to win, when we approach the question, give the tools that ensure this victory, more weapons, what what what the most it is necessary, this is where certain moments arise, which shows that this is how ukraine

is supported and will be supported, here i have no doubts, no matter what russia does and no matter how the cream is there. no matter what scenarios of discrediting, propaganda, falsification they are did not come up with, but regarding the position, how to liberate the occupied territories, well, you see that even the economist writes that ukraine still harbors hopes for a counteroffensive, some are so skeptical, you know, speaking about it like that, so it all says that , that the only thing, the only approach is, i would say, the only approach is that... it must be preserved as an independent state, that ukraine cannot be handed over to russia or under russian influence, or occupied by russia, there is absolutely no different interpretations, this is a position which, which absolutely everyone shares absolutely, absolutely , but, but there is, let’s say, unity regarding how quickly and when to de-occupy the territories and

provide weapons for this, that’s what is important, when everything, everyone understands that ukraine must remain independent and a sovereign state and that it is a separate state separate from russia. russia , on the contrary, takes and mobilizes the russian orthodox church. on the website of the russian orthodox church , the so-called order of the universal russian people's council, the church meeting, which took place yesterday in moscow, was published. and there it is about that russia's large-scale invasion of ukraine is called a holy war. from a spiritual and moral point of view, this is the point. address, the special military operation is a holy war in which russia and its people, protecting the single spiritual space of holy russia, perform the mission of a deterrent, protecting the world from the onslaught of globalism and the victory of the west, which has fallen into satanism. well , patriarch kyrylo gundyayu stated during the conclave that this order is aimed at strengthening and developing the so-called russian

world, at the same time denying his frank nazi character, let's listen to a small fragment. the main thing. the main task of these orders, as well as the long-term activity of the entire world russian people's council, is the protection and strengthening of the russian world. the division, weakening of the russian people, deprivation of their spiritual and vital forces, has always led to the weakening and crisis of the russian state, therefore the restoration of the unity of the russian people, as well as its spiritual and vital potential, are key conditions for the development of russia and russian. does not exist in nature, everyone knows that. but we know what is racism and it is clearly defined, by the way, in ukraine and legislatively, among other things, but i must immediately object here, and what can

be called the fact that there are now raids on muslims and central asians throughout the moscow region, and that's all is accompanied by overt racist chants and xenophobia, then i have a question, if i agree, this is not nationalism, but it is similar to racism and fascism. that is, it is, well, it is this, or even nazism, when it happens on the basis of ethnicity, there is an appropriate definition in the world for this, and there are conventions about the prohibition of racial discrimination and so on in the world, so this is what is happening now, this is the first moment, the second moment, this is all that kirill gundyaev says, you need to know how to realize and break them with theirs, let's say. arguments, there were such theologians in their time, solovyov, bulgakov, not the same bulgakov, what a writer, i remember this one very well, i once read a novel, well

, most likely a novel, if i am not mistaken , about the antichrist, where it was described precisely that this antichrist would appear and pretend first of all, a christian, that is, a righteous person who can save the world, this is me when i look at gondyae now. who proclaims that the world is satanism in the west, they probably wrote about him there several dozen years ago, even earlier then in russia, they wrote about such people, this is the next moment, and another moment, well, it all falls into that the canvas and the ideology that the kremlin is trying to build, a single spiritual space, that means a personal path, you see, dugin is in the first row. so this is all eurasianism, and this is all i don't even know what literary words to choose to sum it all up, what they are describing there, and of course, that this is what

putin proclaims, putin said in an interview with kiselov that the west resembles a vampire ball, which must be destroyed, this one says that it is actually a manifestation of satanism and so on, well, just this is the concept that is trying to unite now, and this is the historical-political schizophrenia that is happening there, when on the one hand st. nicholas ii, on the other hand portraits of stalin, and all this is combined into one, and a large one the patriotic war, and the fact that the royal family was shot, and the fact that russia created belgium and many other things, it is actually, well, it is archaic, it is totally archaic, which... is looked at as barbarians and deacons , there is no other way, there are, of course, you know, in the west i also met, well , frankly, marginals who are fascinated by

this whole spirituality, only when i explained to them that this is the spirituality you are thinking about, you are looking for some orthodox spirituality, and what is happening in russia now has nothing to do with it christianity, then they were disappointed, well , but russia is trying to reach them there, so it's just this concept of continuation. of the ideology that putin is trying to export, to talk about, efforts to unite the right-wing and the far-right of the whole world who oppose globalism, satanism, well, by the way, they are all over the world too, well, how did those in the usa look for a canon or like this sect , as they said there and so on, that is, this is an attempt to attract them, fortunately, such people are still a minority in the world, and very briefly, if possible. mr. oleksandr, what should ukraine do so that the ukrainian orthodox church, the one we

call the moscow patriarchate, supports, or, well, either supported, or these priests still have contacts with the russian orthodox church, considering to these new circumstances, which we are witnessing, it is very easy to orient ourselves to the fact that there are absolutely autonomous orthodox churches in the world, we have a tomos and we must... orient ourselves, we must orient ourselves to the origins of orthodoxy, and the origins of orthodoxy still they came from greece, from constantinople, and so on, and to focus on this, in ukraine , of course, and to focus on the spiritual healing of the ukrainian people first and not to accept these things that russia imposes with its moscow, the third rome, and so on . thank you, mr. oleksandr, for the conversation, it was oleksandr. musyenko, director of the center for military legal studies. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, we conducted

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