there were all the sleepers, here they were all here, it lay there until it dried out, because here we did not touch it, but tried to do something there in the house. at least some clothes, a few chairs and two tables were taken out of the house. the water went away in just 9 days, but it turned out to be a very difficult task to restore the cozy little nest. there was nothing, everything was gone. the whole garden was in line, whole piles of reeds caught up, and in order to do something, the emergency services had to be called. they checked the changers and walked, only then we walked, it was so scary, who knows what drove him here. at the same time, olena and her husband oleksandr had to move to another house across the street. olena's mother used to live there, it was also flooded, but the water was only up to her knees, it is suitable for living. however, since recently, traditionally

for the region, the walls there are constantly blooming, the couple sees their house through the window every day, now raw and desolate. as it turns out, we try, of course, home is home, no matter how good the guests are, home is still better. the family cannot afford to rebuild the house yet money, the compensation under the program is restoration, has not yet arrived, and according to elena, these funds will only be enough for... cement and pay workers for the work, but there is still another huge problem: the building was erected in 1942 from clay and straw, so the walls are still wet , the water is sticking out, the walls are starting to get frosty again, yes, not all of them are beautiful now, now after that, after their repair, the dehumidifier has been working in the apartment for about a week, the couple got this special car as part of project object for liquidation

consequences of the undermining of the kakhovskaya hessian dam. this powerful industrial device condenses 20-30 liters of water per day, which can help the family to start repairs as soon as possible. well, it can take up to a month. i think when it's in the summer, for example, it will be faster. maybe, i think that in a week we will dry the house, a week at most, maybe, maybe faster. of course, i want to return to my hometown as soon as possible. however, there is still a lot of work ahead, so olena, no pessimism. if you look at our age, i don't know it will be very difficult. nine months ago, as a result of the occupiers undermining the kakhovskaya hydroelectric dam , a huge wave washed away everything in its path. however, thousands of residents of flooded areas have already returned to their homes. and according to the head of ukrhydroenergo, the rakhivska hpp itself

is planned to be restored immediately after the deoccupation of the kherson region. kateryna galko, oscar yanson from the mykolaiv region for the espresso tv channel. welcome to the espresso channel. today, in our war and weapons program, we will, of course , talk about new domestic and foreign weapons weapons and equipment used by our military. the battlefield, but more about what usually remains in the shadows and limits this new potential, because firstly, all new models and techniques require appropriate tactics of use and regular structures in our army, as an example, attack drones appeared, and after that , we had to create separate companies of reconnaissance and strike unmanned systems in our brigades, and people are now assigned to specific positions and , most importantly, specific ones.

a drone operator with a military accounting specialty, but when it is about the use of trench rebu means or, for example, ground robotic platforms in the army, so far such constant improvisations and so far not always successful. and new weapons, both domestic and foreign, require an effective system of repair and maintenance, there are more and more samples and problems with repair are increasing, because sometimes there is a lack of spare parts, and sometimes there is even a lack of repair documents. therefore, the newest models sometimes do not fight, but wait for repair. so, can our army quickly adapt to new weapons and technologies and whether all this new arsenal, especially of foreign production, can be quickly repaired, serviced and even modernized. we will talk about this in our war and weapons program with our military and manufacturers in the next issue of our program. my name is serhii zgurets, i am the director. of the information and consulting

company defense express, which now, together with the espresso channel, seeks to highlight the most relevant trends in the life of our army and our defense-industrial complex. and now we have our first guest , we are joined by pavlo kishkar, major of the armed forces, chief of staff, deputy battalion commander of the armed forces of ukraine, people 's deputy of the eighth convocation, mr. pavle, welcome to the espresso channel, glad to see and hear, congratulations, mr. serhiy , i congratulate ukraine, i would like to start our conversation with the fact that about a week ago i had a conversation with an officer of one of the units, it was the vovka battalion. in others, where the officer said that we need new technological solutions, they were there first, it seems that those who are buying these remotely controlled saber modules are now counting on the fact that robotic platforms will finally come to them, no less, hope that such platforms will come to them, and he told me

that there really is a problem, grenade launchers in the battalion is enough, but ground platform operators do not exist at all, and this creates such certain nuances with further maintenance and use. about these new types of weapons, i would like to ask you, you have a lot of experience, you also want to make your unit innovative, and you also have experience in the department of defense, where you were the person who was involved in advancing technologies so that these technologies could be rapidly deployed on the battlefield in the format of this project office technology accelerator, and so i would like to ask you if you really there is a problem that our military or our... structures do not keep up with the changes that are being offered today either by developers or suppliers, and sometimes such harmony does not exist. mr. sergey, this element of our defense is called technical mobilization, but if we react quickly and

describe in detail how the tandem 2 or the saber will be delivered and used on the battlefield, then we will get. tactical advantage over the enemy in details and in particular in positional defense we will have an indisputable advantage. the complexes i mentioned are already in use, albeit in limited quantities, and today the work being carried out, in particular by deputy commander-in-chief andriy lebedenko, is aimed precisely at ensuring that these tandems fire at the enemy on the battlefield as soon as possible. and a whole set of measures is being taken in order to prepare the personnel, because this is the introduction of changes to the personnel lists of the units, and to prepare the repair base and the vehicle base, and to provide it with ammunition in time, these units, and the same

davinshi wolves, have problems not only with the supply of the complexes themselves, but also the provision of ammunition. therefore, it is a complex decision, and it should be approached in a different way. training can already be carried out at these complexes, for this the state or the ministry of defense or any decision is not needed, the state would have to allow private individuals to conduct their own training, and then according to their own exams, for example, or exams in units directly, to allow people to use automated systems of defeat and firing, that is why such complexes exist, they will appear in the near future. in mass production, we expect, if from week to week, the signing of the first contracts for both tandem and saber, and we will hope that the security and defense system itself will work out other elements, such as regular or provision or

repair at such a fast pace for that , to stop the enemy in those directions in which we now have questions. mr. pavle, there are proposals... on the one hand, to create special experimental units there that will take these new samples and develop optimal tactics for their use on the battlefield, and the other version is, as you say, simply take people, prepare and then return them to units already with new samples, which scheme do you think is more optimal? the scheme should be combined, but the legislation is built in such a way now that... military accounting a specialty in one or another direction , a person can only get in specialized training centers of the armed forces of ukraine, and this is categorically wrong, it simply reduces the speed of training people to use such automated systems on the battlefield, therefore the solution must be comprehensive, we must

use private companies , who are the manufacturers of weapons in order to quickly prepare people, in the feedback that will come. from subdivisions, of course, should be generalized in the corresponding scientific ones centers, we have them, they are working on these issues, moreover, scientific centers are preparing the corresponding statutes, because now they will be separate. type of armed forces, and it must have a law that determines how these units interact, communicate with each other , join, as the forces and means of the senior commander, in order to effectively manage these units, if they will be created separately, although, first first of all , they should appear in those combat brigades that have already been created, there are bipacks, at least some turns of unmanned aircraft... complexes, they can be expanded to battalions, and this can be done quickly enough. and when we talk about the commanders and

the military themselves, because, linguistically speaking, the model of equipment must be perfect enough so that during the execution of a combat task, it is not burdensome and does not create problems for the commander himself and for the military himself. this means that it is certain that at a certain stage it is still necessary to add a component that ensures such a vital permanent connection with. workers in order to quickly bring the development to the level that well, it will really help on the battlefield, and not hinder the performance of this or that task, well, this is the fantasy of every commander, but such interaction between the developer, manufacturer, weapons and the military, it is mutually beneficial, because by receiving feedback, we can improve that or another product, and instead , using one or another means for... we effectively transfer this information to other

divisions, which can receive these complexes, the same tandem or saber, and use them no longer with a blank sheet of paper, and to have the experience of the manufacturer and those combat units that have already practiced, well, worked on these systems, i think that the training centers that have already been created once again. i will say, from the manufacturers , they will be the first absorbents of this, this information in order to properly prepare the charter for automated units, and to quickly change the staff, whether it is an operator, or an assistant operator , or a gunner, or a loader, as it is must be correctly named, accounted for and in accordance with the manner in which a person should to be paid for his work, but the fact that it fundamentally changes the situation on the ground. in terms of the conduct of the battle, the style of the conduct of the battle, allows

the commanders to be more, well, with more imagination to approach the placement of combat, fire means of destruction, it is true, and the most important thing is that it is directly related to mobilization, we often say that there are no people for that , in order to conduct combat operations, there are people, let's carry out technical mobilization, and then part of the people... will be freed, because the work on the battlefield will be performed by robots, be it unmanned vehicles or ground-controlled complexes, we have such developments , i say once again, we must help lebedenko so that these contracts are concluded as soon as possible, people, that is, manufacturers are waiting for it, people who are on the battlefield, the military, are waiting for it, and i , from the meetings i attended, i heard... the commander-in-chief's complete conviction that this is the right

direction for the development of our armed forces. we will never have another option, another advantage, such as a numerical one, for example, we don't have 20 or more men, now there will be five up to 60 more than the enemy, we can only have a technological advantage, let's ensure it if any bills or legislative acts interfere with us, prevent us from quickly adopting them. certain types of weapons should be put into service, they must be abolished, they must be changed, i do not think that the legislation should now interfere with the military, the legislation should help to get new and new models on the battlefield as soon as possible, especially since this unified samples, because our small arms are one and the same, they are placed both on the saber and on the tandem, and to other shooting complexes. we have one, the same ammunition is attached to bombers, so i insist that

more intelligent means should be used, in the same fpv, there are types of ukrainian weapons developers that allow bombers to return, that allow the complex use of this or that technique , not only as a bomber, but like a kamikaze, can work as a scout, and here are such high-tech solutions that... are long- lasting on the battlefield, they are needed, they provide a technological advantage over by russia by the way, you mentioned the decisions that need to be made as soon as possible, but there is something unique. cases where the system exists , it has not been adopted, but now we see tablets with nettles there, and nettles have created an army of sos, there are specific people who we know, but do not name, who have put effort into this project, it is still being improved, but it is not in service, although there are tens of thousands of users in the armed forces, how to explain this paradox, should the ministry

of defense not contribute more finances, some approaches to stimulate development'. to further improve the product not only at the expense of his own initiative? look, i 'm in favor of radical changes, i'm in favor of turning the system upside down, that is, if we know that nettles, hysarta, there is a whole series of complexes for controlling the introduction of artillery fire, unique in fact, the same, my god, i already forgot everything , complexes that allow you to very... quickly direct artillery in order to defeat the enemy from the place where he fired a shot, and these ukrainian products must accompany the units of the armed forces to the point that, well, scientific , for example, units, in order to put them into service, and not developers, because this system that exists

now does not work in our country, when the developer goes, does not know where to submit documents, and then it is sewn off, or so they say here... the wrong indentation on the left or right should be the other way around, well, everyone uses nettle in the field, well, so why is it not on the weapon, people from the dvtp or tsvndi, the relevant units, should be allocated took these documents from the developer and brought them to acceptance arming before the order and all, because it is beneficial to us as a military, it saves our lives, no no no not developers, developers dopo... and i am for this picture of the world to be turned upside down, the pyramid turned upside down, and we these units, which are in the structure of the armed forces , started working with the developer directly until the result was achieved. ,

decisions were made, and now it seems that in the ministry of defense has a certain pause with this, but in... it has become more active at the level of the general staff and at the level of the ministry of statistics, although in my opinion the ministry of statistics is a cool ministry, but in part it takes over part of the military tasks, it is not always clear to me how to speed it up , does the accelerator work, or are there any nuances with this, so far they are skidding, there is no skidding, now all the developments have been transferred, i will tell andriy lebedenko once again, i think he will have a certain pause in reviewing. these decisions and reports are for the commander-in-chief, but these are days, all the same, this days, it should happen very quickly, and we are very grateful for such fruitful cooperation, today i will say that the documents for the tandem already have ttx and the corresponding ones, well, that is, we have moved where we worked for months, we have now completed the work in 10 days, and the tests were conducted, and

the documents were prepared, and the technical characteristics were already approved by the relevant military commanders. that is, it will be a unique experience. if we work out at least three or four nomenclature according to this scheme, i think that a separate order of the minister should be written according to this procedure, because it will actually work. therefore, it is a big challenge for us, but it is a vital need. i say once again, if you don't do this, if you don't put your feet and hands on these documents and don't do it, then nothing will happen. infantry will remain on the battlefield. and all without any technological advantage, but there are decisions regarding the technological acquisition of the technological advantage of the ukrainians, let's take them and use them, i will say once again, there is such an order from the commander-in-chief, and that is why we work day and night so that these ee contracts appear and respectively the following step by step, the technique went to the frou, well, for me this is actually news, because i did not think that such

progress began with the background of the decision. of general syrsky against the background of the actions of his deputies , i see that the situation is really, if we take into account your conclusions, progressing quickly enough, it is extremely positive to hear from you, i will say it again, mr. serhiy, it is necessary to approach this very comprehensively, because and the change in staff, organizational structure of units, and training, and logistics, and repair, this is all interconnected, you can't just push the complex to the front and say, everything use it, it’s very well, how about... a military battle is a complex thing, and one must be ready for all this, including the commander, he must understand how he will use it in a battle, we are now training, i think on base at the university of defense, we will organize and conduct it, they will conduct it, which is true, but those units, if the old ones want to help, please

join, because combat experience is needed, but for now we will conduct it with the forces and means of the manufacturers, so both the saber and the tandem will be involved to these processes, i say again, this ground component that has signs of technological superiority over the enemy and we will do our best. that it was contracted and entered the army within weeks , well, this is very positive news, i wanted to ask you how an artilleryman has such a thing, i have seen many videos where the military works in so-called exoskeletons, when they take burdens and carry a lot of weight with less strain on my own back, when i look at our gunners, i always remember that it is not bad... that our developments related to sexoskeletons somehow developed and found implementation, do you have any general range of problems in

the military that require certain technological solutions there, so that this list of these problems is known to our developers and oriented in what to do in order it was needed by the armed forces, but today the work on the generalization of developments, it has been carried out and... is conducted 24x7, all this data is transferred to the commanders-in-chief for consideration, if they are interested in it, they react to it or not, i think that even in the commander-in-chief has time to review these developments, such a report exists, it seems to arrive every two days, regarding implementation, for today, solving the issue, in particular with the mobilization and training of new soldiers , is very important. than generalization, that is, generalization is a daily activity, but the changes that we expect with the mobilization of both human and, most importantly, technical, i

would generally issue a separate order on the introduction of technical mobilization in the armed forces and other military formations, because it can fundamentally to change the situation, if developers, there is a need for some additional contact, i just don't see it now, now everyone... there is work, and both the ministry of statistics and the ministry of defense are open to interaction, and the department of military and technical policy often issues clarifications regarding those developments that foreign countries receive to us for use, so the commanders simply pay more attention to what we offer for perusal, and if you are interested in having this feedback appear on the appropriate senior commander, we for our part ... eh this one work on generalization will of course always be carried out in a permanent mode, so if something appears somewhere that is necessary for the troops,

it is definitely necessary to move to the phase of placing on arms and contracting, and my, my main concern is that this time should be minimized, to my deep conviction , two weeks is enough for a finished product at the seventh, eighth or even higher level to be able to reach acceptance into service in two weeks, not 45 days, as indicated in the 348th, for example, on uavs, i i think that we have already passed this stage to react, you see how often the frequency spectrums of control of unmanned aerial vehicles change there, both on our side and on the enemy’s side, so there should be a very quick reaction to this, and you mentioned that the equipment, yes the equipment that is already is fighting and not adopted into service, then the problem lies precisely in the same procedure, which is quite complex. i think that by reducing the number of divisions and signatures in this procedure, we

will achieve the fact that such ready-made samples of weapons will be accepted for service in the armed forces in two weeks. mr. pavle, very much thank you for these explanations, for new and important accents related to technological progress in our armed... forces, and let me remind you that it was pavlo kishkar, major of the armed forces of ukraine, chief of staff, deputy battalion commander, we were talking about technical mobilization of the ukrainian army, and actually we understand that this component also extends to the fact that this equipment, samples of weapons need to be repaired and serviced by ukrainians abroad, and with this there are certain nuances, how to deal with these nuances, how these problems to solve, about it in the second part. of our program after the advertising and information block. greetings, this is svoboda live on radio svoboda. we have already approached the serpent himself. the following shots may shock you. news from

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weapons" program. in the first part. we talked about new solutions that the armed forces need, about shortening the procedures for adopting weapons equipment to ensure the armament of the armed forces forces, then we will talk about whether foreign weapons are used in the ukrainian army in the ukrainian army, because on the battlefield we see the effective use of foreign weapons, but we forget that in fact now the ukrainian army has a situation when... which there is no other army in the world, given the fact that the weapons park is extremely diverse, and each type of weapon needs to be repaired, serviced, this is actually such a nightmare for the logistics structures of the ukrainian army, and there are ukrainian companies that have some experience of interaction with foreign suppliers, and then the question arises, how to choose the best practices in order to solve the problems that

exist in the armed forces. and now we are joined by vladyslav belbas, general director of ukrainian armored vehicles. mr. vladyslav, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear on the espresso channel. good afternoon, thank you for the invitation, nice to hear from you too. i would like us to first talk about the topic related to the maintenance and repair of foreign equipment, and then to what your company actually does. in the ukrainian brent. hniki, there is such a certain limited experience of contacts with turkish armored vehicles that were supplied to the armed forces, and in fact there is experience of working with other foreign models that are served on the ukrainian market. how to determine the most sensitive problems of maintenance of foreign equipment and how to reduce the problems that are currently facing our

repair departments. sections that do not have spare parts, there are repair documentation and so on, and this significantly affects the combat effectiveness of those samples, which we have in a significant number received from our partners , the question is correct, in its essence and in terms of the impact , what is the logistical support, repairs, how do they affect the combat capability of the army, indeed if the first time there, the 22nd year of supply was relatively fast and relatively without support at all we see that at that time we were also provided with warehouse samples of weapons and so on, starting from the second half of the 23rd year, many manufacturers are working to attract local companies, either

from the private sector, or from... gronprom for creation of joint enterprises by organization service delivery of spare parts. ah, our company also joins such work with american companies and with turkish companies, as you said, and that is why such a process is underway. i would give the palm here, probably to the germans, who have already created three joint enterprises and continue to declare such support. of this, let's say, france is now also leading in terms of support, yes, declaring support for ukraine, but the equipment that we received from france, most of it there was still in a very similar condition in a relatively non-working state, and it was necessary to carry out maintenance or repairs just in time for finishing,