and now we have a general overall picture and no one will be able to play the game anymore, and the moscow popes, they are there, but they are not there, they are for god at all, no, they serve hell, and we have seen this once again, well, what the hell it is difficult to say here in principle, and in a different way to simply name these. i agree with these points, but those who were recently associated with them, and now say that they are independent, this is the ukrainian orthodox church, the moscow patriarchate, they say that this declaration of a holy war contradicts the basic principles of christian morality and distanced themselves from the ideology of this russian world, which the ukrainian orthodox church does not support, as stated in the statement of the uocp.

separates itself from the ideology of the russian world, moreover, the attitude of our church to this idea was publicly expressed a long time ago by the most blessed patriarch, metropolitan, grant onufria to kyiv and the entire movement, we are not building a russian world, we are building god's world, ocu spokesman metropolitan ivstratiy wrote on facebook, that the structure of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine, headed by metropolitan monufry , is quite reminiscent of a person suffering from of domestic violence, but is not able... are they still from the ocu and there is some kind of dialogue about unification, about what the church is. must still be ukrainian, not

moscow, not russian, and not have these, as metropolitan evstratiy says, er, signs of a person who suffers from domestic violence, but is not able to break away from the rapist, well here, in order to understand who is raping whom and who plays in which team, you need to go to the website of the russian orthodox church and look at these moscow ones. priests, and among the list of these moscow priests we will see, including aniya, actually everything, the russian orthodox church, dot, dotra, so, you know, here the point is that there will be no russian church or branch of the russian church here, not in the lavra, not in kyiv, not in pachayiv, not in any others, it’s all clear, the question remains, how is it, how to act, well, there are two basic, two ba... approaches,

that is, a revolutionary approach, once upon a time, the people will think, come to the conclusion, why moscow popes, if we are ukraine, actually the majority of people who go there and really love to believe in god, this does not mean that they want putin, the russian army and so on to be here, well, this is how it happened historically, that is, this story is objectively more complicated, the second approach is the ban of the russian orthodox church. the church, its branches in the minben are much closer, because there were too many examples of the moscow popes, they fight, spy and so on and so on, and you see, at the moment these issues are in the council hung up, i am not sure that they themselves are so urgent, although during the war , everything must be decided quickly, but globally, what was stopping

the russian orthodox church from being banned in ukraine, one thing was that it was believed that some people in the west would think, that this will be an excuse for us oppressing the church here, the russian-speaking, the pope, pasha mercedes, that they are suffering, they beat their foreheads on the floor very hard and prayed to god, but we do not interfere with them, now you look, everything is a cross , they're pro-war, period, so, you know, let's... just talk about it again out loud and for all of us personally, i am not at all interested in what church my neighbors go to and whether they go there at all, i want safety for myself, my children, for my country, if there are people walking here who wear cassocks and talk on their stomachs they nailed the crosses, and at the same time they without... heat reduce this

state, then they should answer in the same way as the rest, and not hide behind their robes, well, it seems to me that this is an absolutely obvious thing, and it is not necessary here.. . once formulated it so harshly, but it is, it is simple, why do they have to point russian missiles at us and talk about what, who is there, we are satanists there, there is something else, and that is , to explain to a certain part of ukrainian society, who have problems with their heads, that there can be no other options here, who is to blame in the fact that here... russian missiles, whoever launches them is to blame, period, here, this is not a political discussion, it is a matter of the actions of law enforcement and special bodies, and a matter of national security, of course, of ukraine and the security of the citizens of the ukrainian state ,

during the week we see how putin is trying to play the role of a victim after the terrorist attack in crocus, we see that he is trying to kill everyone ... whether the idol is run there by ukraine or ukraine is somehow involved, although biden clearly says this week that putin is a butcher, a butcher and that's it , there can be no other language here, for whom this image of the victim putin has prepared and for whom it will be convincing in a situation when he is the number one terrorist in the world, but... he is trying to take over the role of the number one victim , would i say that in the world? i don't think that this is something they will be able to do on in the international arena, of course , there will be states that take a neutral position on this matter, and we also cooperate with them, first of all, this is an influence on

the russian masses, stand up, you are a huge country , you see, they are so cunning, these ukrainians have hired such guys, who shot people there. if they really shot them, if they really shot them, then of course they are terrorists, but usually this requires a court, some kind of clarification of the situation, here what we see, we see the cut off ears of beaten people, and there is such the idea that if vladimir putin's ears are cut off, then he will also confess, admit that he is actually an agent and... a whistleblower, and i don't know, the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, well, i just thought that kirill was a whistleblower budanov , somehow it is unworthy of kirill budanov, so be it, that is, all these statements, they are again,

but if we distance ourselves from the propaganda part, then all the evidence that they obtained from... these people, and who were asked publicly, in fact, russia has not yet come to this, they only asked without cameras, here they cut off the fly and so on, so now they have the latest information that these tajik guys, they were going to kyiv to receive awards, and they said that this is evidence, because one of these people said so , he testified. in this regard, well, in fact , the question itself is not surprising, but somehow, what kind of reward did they want, if before that they talked about money, but again, we are in a situation where we do not need to make excuses, at all, because well, this is

a sword, and if someone puts forward some accusations on the basis of the words of these detainees, then they are obliged to... present them to the public, in particular, to show how much they have, whether they have an ear or not, whether they have all their fingers, or all the nails, do they have them on their body, because these same cats, well, they will force you to sign any, any document, these shots that we see, well , it is immediately clear, well, it is immediately clear that they were going to kirill bodanov to receive some kind of reward, and those who are there... are telling something there, this victim, we must not allow these movements to somehow, you know, here i am, i just want to remind everyone when this tragedy happened, we have

the right not to sympathize, but a tragedy is a tragedy, many civilians were shot, children were there and so on, the house burned down, well... better, but that the russian invaders began to write on their fabs, they wrote: zakrokus, and here the question arises, if they threw bombs a step at a time. why are they abandoning them today and for the last two years, two odd years, so everything is clear here, and let's note that no matter how much effort they put into that everyone here felt sorry for them, there was masha zakharova, not the midovian schmara, but the official speaker of the russian federation, she stood there with a stopwatch and detected who, when, what... expressed words of sympathy to the russian federation and branded

the anglo-saxons with shame accordingly, that is, the issue has not changed, they are simply using this situation solely to manage the hatred of the russian invaders, russian men, and it was no coincidence that we had the first assumption that this would be the basis for announcing a full-scale mobilization, they, by the way, they can also be used, but later, i have to finish the broadcast, thank you, roman tsymbalyuk, my colleague, journalist, friends, during the broadcast we conduct a survey, we will now see the interim results of the survey, are you satisfied with danilov's work on for the post of secretary of the national security council, 22%, 78 dissatisfied. there are discounts on pulmopriz of 20% in pharmacies of travel stores and savings. riv is

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greetings friends, the second part of the verdict program is live on the tv channel, my name is serhiy rudenko, the game of the terrorist is on the air today. victim the kremlin is trying to convince the world that ukraine is the aggressor in the war with russia. who will believe the liar putin. the parliamentary crisis is gaining momentum. the council did not make any decisions at its last meeting in march. why do deputies sabotage parliamentary work? uncontrolled telegram. the president's office denies

involvement in anonymous telegram channels, whether they will ban a social network with russian roots. friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live there, subscribe to our pages, take part in our survey, today we ask you about this, are you satisfied with danilov's work as the secretary of the national security council, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have any opinion, please write it in the comments under this video, if you watch us on tv, delete use your smartphone or phone and vote if you are satisfied with danilov's work as secretary of the national security council 0800-211381 no 08021-382. vote, all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce today's guest of our studio, this is kateryna nekreche, radio svoboda journalist, host of morning with freedom. kateryna, i congratulate you.

congratulations, congratulations. yanina sokolova, journalist, tv presenter, public figure, blogger and e- author and host of the millionaire youtube channel. yanina, i congratulate you. thank you for being with us today. congratulations. kateryna is also the host of the youtube channel. so, if friends, you watch us on youtube, you can subscribe to kateryna nekrecha and yanina sokolova at the same time. let's make the blogosphere and youtube, the channel, and, sokolova and nekrecha, popular, and not only in ukrainian segment, and in general in the entire segment. so, since yanino and kakaterino, we are asking our viewers about danilov's activities, i will ask the same question that we articulate to viewers and tv viewers, are you satisfied with danilov's work as secretary of the nsdc, yanina, well, i am now, probably not too much

speak critically, because next week, mr. danilov, i hope, there is already an agreement, i will have a rendezvous, then i will. now it is necessary to filter what i will say so that he comes. in fact, all jokes aside, mr. danilov is a man with a streak, not at all directly connected with the law enforcement system, he is not a personnel officer or intelligence before that, or any position that would be commensurate with the one that he has held all these four years, that is how long he has been in office. secretary of the nsdc, however, about the results of the work , i think there is no clear answer here , it is necessary to structurally analyze everything and tell the audience what was bad and what was not, however, in my opinion, this is a rather positive train, with which the secretary of the nsdc, mr. danilov, a very well-known person in donbas, and

you know that he was the head, led luhansk and... at one time, some of the people who moved here said that if you can imagine a pro-ukrainian donbas there, then this is just about danilov, a person who had a track record related to management, a region in which there was a huge the amount of wool and pro-russian support of various under-the-floor processes, and not only under-the-floor processes, and public ones, then, becoming a secret. the nsdc, it seems to me, very well understands the specifics of the country we live in now, and the decisions were made, voiced more than once, correct in the composition of the members of the national security council and defense, and the secretary, so for something , a huge thank you, we remember the stories called the closing of the medvechukiv tv channels and

all kinds of devils that inhabited our media. well, and many other processes related to those who were at the forefront of heroic actions, and who prevented all of this, danilov expressed his opinion on behalf of these people at once, so to speak, arguing this with processes that, believe me , many people don't even know about trickery, i'm hinting now, who knows who understood who didn't he knows, i understood, i said so veiledly, well, there is an island, snakes and a bunch of different things, well , these whole things seem to me to be a serial story called the russian ship, go far. this is a story, well, for which we can also thank danilov. i think when you see the extended interview, because a lot remains, so to speak, outside the public

side, when a person is in office, and we have a war going on, so it's hard, it's hard now to voice all the things that, for example, they know journalists or people close to the military, the same journalists, but i think that when let's watch the interview. what he will be able to tell, will tell, will be cool, but now it is known that he became the ambassador of ukraine to moldova, and this is such a rather interesting trend of continuation by the authorities, those whom they did not like to appoint to the positions of ambassadors, besides, sergey, you remember, we talked about valery fedorovich, the hard worker, he is in britain, danilov, by the way, as far as i know. they have excellent relations, they cooperated very well in the coalition, now in moldova, so overall the train is positive, thank you for your work, very difficult

, especially in the first months of a full-scale invasion, and why hide a sin for all 10 years, when you lead a region as complex as luhansk and luhansk region, and you are from this region, where you absolutely understand exactly how... can to act and how to arrange defense not only there from the point of view of media and from the point of view of the structure of how it can be built there, therefore, a big thank you to danilov , the caretaker, i, i hope, yanina, your thanks will still open danilov to you and you you ask him, by the way, and about who made the decision to close or rather. i also invited him to the program

, never once, by the way, did he not respond, although we are friends with him on facebook, well, well, no, then no, i will suddenly take from him after you, for the sake of justice i will say that i did not respond either , although it is an interesting moment when you are friends with people there, well, with high-ranking officials on facebook, they congratulate you on the holidays, on your birthday. happy birthday, they give some books there, thank you, they don't go to the interview, this is the most interesting moment in my work journalists, so maybe the door opened, and he wrote to me that he already has more time, and i don’t think that sergey and i will open some kind of pandora’s box and find out something, because after all, a person remains in the structure, there are things about which cannot be said, however, it will be interesting to hear that the dospresso is on the fifth for sure, thank you, thank you. kateryna, you do not have an interview with danilov, what do you say about whether you are satisfied with danilov's work as secretary of the national security council? well, i definitely will not undertake

to evaluate, because i have never been on meetings of the national security council, and i will not suspect so , and that is why it is difficult to understand, from this point of view, well, i agree with yanina here, because really it is such a rather difficult period that our country has passed through, and those people who are in those offices and there at the nsdc, then... well, they worked and obviously worked as hard as they could for the country to stand there, this is an interesting question, because we know about mr. danilov, his political path, and this is very important, that is, he is not a new star , who was born in 2019, because she is there with zelensky's team came, this is a very important such factor, that it will be replaced, in principle , these months were also discussed, and maybe it could be that these replacements began with him, and not with the old one, for example, and but it happened, how did it happen, that he remains in the team, we heard, we have already seen the result, what is perceived by us, well, it is such an exile, really

like an exile, when ambassadors are sent to such positions there, as we see , there are also such in society, is this situation sufficiently communicated in general, why did it happen, well i don't think there is enough communication on this matter, although we heard there mr. podolyak said... that there is now a need to strengthen the analytical component of the national security council and that there is a need for rotations because of this in management positions in order to more effectively respond to those to the challenges that exist today , well, that is, you know, it is not clear clearly, but what exactly , what do you expect, regarding the interview, i don't remember whether i had mr. danilov on our live broadcasts in the morning, in my there was a colleague, but it was always not easy, on the ukrainian truth, for example, he appears there every week, almost every week. commented, well, this is a person who, we all hear it, we know, from those statements that were heard earlier, he does not dig into his pocket for a word, well, that is, he is a fairly straightforward person, and he is there with

his own. with some firm, obviously vision of the situation, this is not a person from the president's office , and as if there are rumors that there could be some kind of coincidence, there was even quite an open conflict with mr. podaluk in the summer of 22, it seems, when danilo criticized him for unprofessionalism there or something military-themed, that is an interesting moment, i'm waiting for yanina for an interview, because in an interview, even when a person doesn't directly say some things, then... sometimes these answers are read between the lines, thank you, well, actually, let's leave it to yanina, yaninove, that is, danilov , and we will wait, you see, your and the upcoming interview with danilov were immediately announced on espresso, ask after all why we were kicked out of t2, because well, this is a very serious question, well, in the meantime, let's move on to of what has been going on this past week

as we see putin... trying to the number one terrorist to become the number one victim in the world, and thanks to, or rather not thanks to, but because of the terrorist attack in krok city hall near moscow, now putin is trying to blame the russian federation on ukraine, to say that it is the ukrainian special services organized that they led these tajiks, who were caught and tortured there by the russian special services, and it is understandable. that this whole story is obviously, obviously, aimed at convincing the world that putin wants to communicate with the world in order to fight international terrorism, but in putin's understanding , international terrorism and ukraine are somewhere close, yanina, in your opinion, why do they constantly sculpt something that is not sculpting at all, and what they say about both in washington and in berlin, and in other capitals

, and european... and not only about the fact that there are cases there, there is no trace of a ukrainian, who is this delusion aimed at and whether the world will really sympathize with those who died and their relatives in this crocus , and to putin as a person who manages the state against which the department went. i don't think the world will to sympathize in the state against which the case went, i think that people perfectly structure that... the death of people, innocent in nothing, is their president, so-called, that it is also difficult to call putin legitimate as a president , given the process of taking over the tsar and the absence of the opposition, that is, he is the number one terrorist, who holds hostage citizens, including those who suffer, sometimes because of attacks. other

terrorists with whom, regardless of their life path, he should have a lot in common. about some kind of public opinion there, i arranged such a resource of the world's reaction to it. i will tell you honestly, it saddened me that a number of american publications, quoting putin, put it in the headlines, in particular the issue of ukraine, well, friends, how does it sound, it sounds as follows, yes, deal also did it, however, the terrorists were connected with ukraine, moved towards ukraine and were waiting for them there. accordingly , there is a ukrainian trace in this. well, a number of authoritative american and british publications published these headlines. the british, it's mainly the yellow press, but the americans from status issued all these materials. yes , they quoted putin, but as we know, given our media activity, people often

read the headlines and... don't look at the bottom line, and this is followed by the perception of this tragedy, without exaggerating the tragedy, with the acceptance of putin as a victim and his people , here you need to distinguish where the people are and where putin is, and believe me , they do it skillfully in the world, and don’t forget that putin works for an internal audience, now the story is called mobilization, we will see with you it on... in the near future it will have new momentum, i do not think that he will publicly announce it, because he did not have such a springboard, after the terrorist attack, which he knew about back in february, he was warned by our western partners, then he wanted to use it, i suspect, to announce a mobilization, because look what these...