we will see the moscow priests , including anufia, actually all the roc dotru, so you know, here the point is that there will be no russian church or branch of the russian church here, not in the lavra , not in kyiv, not in pachaiv, not in any others, this everything is clear , the question remains, how is it, how to act, well, there are two basic, two basic approaches, that is, a non-revolutionary approach, over time, the people will think, come to the conclusion, why moscow popes, if we are ukraine? actually, the majority of people who go there and really believe in god, they don't means that they want putin , the russian army and so on to be here, well, this is how it happened historically, that is, this story is objectively more complicated, the second approach is to ban the russian orthodox church, its branches in minmen, closer to... .

a lot, because there were too many examples of the moscow popes, they fight, spy and so on and so forth, and you see, at the moment these issues have been suspended in the council, i am not sure that they themselves are so urgent, although during wars must be resolved quickly, but globally, what stopped the russian orthodox church from being banned in ukraine? one thing is that it was believed that some people in the west would think that this would be an excuse for us to oppress the church here, the russian-speaking people, the pope, pasha mercedes, that they were suffering, they beat their foreheads on the floor very hard and prayed god, we don't bother them, now you look, it's all a piece of paper, they're for war, period, so, you see, let's just talk about it out loud again and... for all of us, i personally

don't care at all what which church my neighbors don't go to and do they go there in general, i want security for myself, my children, for my state, if there are people walking here who put on cassocks and say, and have crosses attached to their stomachs, and at the same time they reduce the security of this state, then... they should answer like this the same as the rest, and not to hide behind one's features, well, it seems to me that this is an absolutely obvious thing, and there is no need here, here somehow i formulated it so harshly, but that's it, that's simple, why should they point at us russian missiles and talk about who is there, we are satanists there, there is something else, that is, to explain a certain part ukrainian society

, who have problems with their heads, that there can be no other options here, who is to blame for the fact that russian missiles are flying here, who is launching them, that is to blame, period, here, this is not a discussion for political scientists, this is a matter of the actions of law enforcement and special bodies, and the matter of national security, of course, of ukraine and the security of the citizens of the ukrainian state, in... during the week we see how putin is trying to play the role of a victim after the terrorist attack in crocus, we see that he is trying to convince everyone that idol or is governed there by ukraine, or is ukraine somehow involved, although biden clearly says this week that putin is a butcher, a butcher and all, there can be no other language here, for whom this image of a victim is. putin has prepared and

for whom he will be convincing in a situation where he is the number one terrorist in the world, but he is trying to take over the role of the number one victim, i would say so in the world. i don't think that they will be able to do this on the international stage, of course, there will be states that are occupying this matter neutral position, and we also cooperate with them, primarily this is influence. to the russian masses, get up, the country is huge , you see, they are so cunning, these ukrainians hired guys like that who shot people there, if they really shot them, if they really shot them, then of course they are terrorists, but usually for that a court is needed, some sort of clarification of the situation, here what we see, we see the cut off ears of beaten people and there is such a thing... the idea that if vladimir

putin's ears are cut off, then he will also confess, admit that he really is an agent and a pimp, and i am not... kyryla budanova, so be it, that is, all these statements, they, again, but if you distance yourself from this propaganda part, then all the evidence that they obtained from these people and that they asked . in public, in fact, russia had not come to this yet, they only asked without cameras, here they cut off ears and so on, so now they have the latest information that these guys from dzhitsa, they were going to kyiv to receive awards, and they say ,

that this is proof, because one of these people about he said that, he testified about it , something is being said there, and... this victim, we must not allow these actions to somehow, you know, uh, here i am, i just want to remind everyone when this tragedy happened, we have the right not to sympathize, but a tragedy is a tragedy, many civilians were shot, children were there and so on, the house burned down, well, let it burn better, but what did they start writing? the russian invaders on their fabs, they wrote "zakrokus", and here the question arises, if then they threw bombs behind the crocus, then why did they they are being thrown today, and for the last two years , two, two and a half years, so everything

is clear here, and let's note that no matter how much they are there, no matter how hard you make efforts to make them feel sorry for everyone here, masha zakharova is on... . not shmara midovska, but the official speaker of the russian federation, she stood there with a stopwatch and detected who, when, what words, expressed sympathy to the russian federation, and branded the anglo-saxons with shame, that is, the question, nothing has changed, they just use this situation solely to manage... by the hatred of the russian invaders , russian men, and no, by chance we had the first assumption that this would be the basis for announcing a full-scale mobilization, by the way, they can take advantage of this, including, but a little later, thank you, i have to

finish broadcast, thank you, roman tsimbalyuk, my colleague, journalist, friends, during the broadcast, we conduct a survey, we will now see the interim results of the survey, are you satisfied with danilov's work as secretary of the national security council , 22%, 78 dissatisfied. glory to ukraine, dear tv viewers, on air of the espresso tv channel, studio zahid program, we will analyze the most important events. this week, specifically the strategic deployment of our enemy. our experts, general alnur musaev and major oleksiy hetman. our first guest is general alnur musaev, former head of the kazakhstan bureau of national security, ex-adviser of the president of the republic of kazakhstan on national security issues. glory to ukraine,

mr. general, i congratulate you. alga kazakhstan. glory to the heroes of alga kazakhstan. hello well, the key story. terror attack, crocus. bodies yes, we understand that there are several versions, but i would like to ask you right away about your vision of possible scenarios for the unfolding of events, yes? the consequences i think we will all soon see, but the key story is what could have been, what was, and what may not have fit into the official version. and now it is already known that the perpetrators of the terrorist attack are representatives of khorasan idols from northern afghanistan. maybe she was adjusting. were controlled from that region, but there are many other points that testify to the wider participation of the individuals involved in this terrorist attack. i would like to first dwell on version of the russian federation, what putin, bortnikov, patrushev and other leaders are saying about it today. they, expressing

doubts about involvement in the organization of the terrorist attack and khorasan events, are trying to transfer responsibility to ukraine. judging by the events that took place during. from the terrorist attack and after the terrorist attack, the naked eye can see the exit of the russian special services. first of all, these are the conditions in which they prepared for a terrorist attack, received weapons, and left for turkey. received an additional visa to the russian federation, here it should be noted that in the turkish embassy, ​​out of four employees of diplomats, there are usually two employees of the ssr, foreign intelligence services, one employee of gru, and one employee of the fsb. here i have everything in order with arithmetic. do you remember how one of the deputies said at the next debate that 2+2 is 5. that's why i come from russian. calculation , the situation in the embassies is real, and it is very suspicious that according to the data

of the turkish special services, which were announced by erdogan, apart from the embassy of the russian federation, these people were not in contact with anyone, they were under under the supervision of the special services of turkey, most of the special services of the world, let's even say, the more nato countries, which turkey is a part of , were focused on the fact that it is the people from tajikistan who, according to the task and plans of affairs , issue this repeated visa for entering the russian federation. there are numerous signs of the creation of favorable conditions for these perpetrators of a terrorist act. that is , somehow in the strictest such power regime , they get weapons? they calmly buy combustible materials in the store, gasoline, probably at a gas station. a few tails of cartridges and not a few, but dozens of tails with cartridges for weapons, accommodation, the possibility

of conducting reconnaissance in the same crocus, all this indicates the creation of favorable conditions for carrying out a terrorist act, and even at the final stage, where the perpetrators of the terrorist attack ran, i am sure that these are the same people, the russian special services and more precisely the mass media show people that they ran in... if you take what is the plan of the people who controlled and directed this a terrorist act , ukraine should be the ultimate goal, as we know today, the russian leadership is trying to place all the responsibility on ukraine without grounds, then it is completely included in this scheme of a terrorist act accompanied by, according to russia, the russian special services, they should have committed a terrorist attack and. .. to run towards ukraine, that's what they planned. in fact, they

ended up near belarus and there, according to their plan, holding hands with the kid and budanov, they should meet them at the border, this is the version, you know, the wild version of course, but they are still trying to sew her trousers to the skullcap, as many have said here. the version is completely sewn up with white threads, but at the same time it fully reveals that these... groups of terrorists, perpetrators, created conditions of facilitation throughout the territory of russia. and during the implementation, they even tried to ensure a certain reserve of time for them to move west, towards ukraine. dear mr. general musaev, look, the story is still the same, well, they showed us four detained terrorists from the islamic state, yes, although at the same time they tell about what was detained. one and a half dozen people, yes , and the key story, why didn't they immediately pull out

the fake representatives of ukraine, yes, all of them were citizens of tajikistan, that is, those who were put in the foreground, whose ear was cut off, and so on, and so on. you see, according to the intelligence services of the united states of america, deal also organized the terrorist act. and these performers fit perfectly. in addition to these four, you know, the arrested person who provided them with housing in moscow, with son and with someone else, and the person who sold

the car in which they tried to leave the scene of the crime, so that the circle of these people who are connected specifically to this terrorist act is quite clearly defined today, but here is what you say, but where is ukraine, the russian special services in russia have very big problems with this issue, it is practically impossible to tie ukraine to this terrorist act today. it is impossible where they will find people with specific elements of communication, specific facts of communication and at the same time on the right related to ukraine, it is even theoretically impossible today. of course, they will find some dedicated person who will point. i'm sure that after some time these arrested people will say that they ran to ukraine and someone met them there, but it's all white threads, that's for sure. based on my own life and professional experience, i see that the terrorist act was organized and directed specifically

by the islamic state, representatives of the islamic state, which subtly and... yes, the special services could not manage the entire process, simply intervening under a foreign flag, creating the conditions, facilitating the conditions for committing a terrorist attack, that's the only way they intervened. in addition to the anger that is directed against our central asian brothers, against the tajiks, the population of russia perceives the activities of the special services of all law enforcement agencies very critically , this is also clearly visible, especially the criminal ones. that it is necessary to kill everyone is generally very difficult. and look, tajiks, kazakhs, or uzbeks, they are going to defend themselves, if they really launch a scenario of black

hundreds and pogroms in russia. well, but there will be no pogroms jewish, and they are thunderbolts, for example. unite russian society against ukraine, unite it around the figure of putin, support this putin. given that there were problems with navalny, during the elections, many russian citizens were against putin, it was visible to the naked eye. in addition to uniting with this terrorist act... for the purposes of solving issues with migrants from central asian countries, that is, external migrants, and with internal migrants from the caucasus, dagestan, chechnya, ingushetia, to cause such a negative attitude. many who says: well, without migrants, the economy of russia, the labor force will suffer greatly. i will firmly tell you that for the special services and even

for putin himself, the economy of russia today is a secondary issue. everyone perfectly understands that the head. the question is ukraine, it is to achieve at least some minimal goals in this confrontation with a fairly strong, we can say today enemy, ukraine, which at one time they tried to capture in 3 days, this is what makes me nervous, putin already feels enough of the pain on his own neck live, let's talk honestly, well, but in any case we also have no right to underestimate the enemy, what happened well... this is a huge failure of the so-called counterintelligence and military counterintelligence of the russian federation, so in any case he should have resigned the director of the federal security service, there would have to be extremely tough conclusions that relate to, for example, the security of the capital,

and in addition, yes, they should not now , for example, incite an even greater degree. to receive managers of russian of the power bloc, who have already begun to blame ukraine, although we understand that ukraine is of no use here, where is the afghan islamic state and where are we, respectively, if we talk about a terrorist attack. which was under the control of the flag of the idols of the islamic state, then it was carried out according to the entire classic scheme adopted by the special services, in principle , until the moment when it is possible to tie this terrorist attack to ukraine. everything was organized by the federal security service, clearly enough. as far as it was possible to manage, in fact, someone else's

terrorist act, this time. today i i look at the reaction of the same... bortnikov, patrusheva, even this interesting statement, i would like to dwell on lukashenko, who said: "vova called me, we sat all night and caught these terrorists with vova." and vova asked me, will you close the border, i said: "of course, without fail, i will close the belarusian border." this is voiced by lukashenko himself, it is essentially his direct speech, that is, russia cannot even close its own border, it asks for a foreign border. state to close the state border if, according to their plan, that terrorists run into ukraine, that putin should have called zelensky and asked to close the border with...

they are making fun of this, if you look from the side, they are just making fun of putin in this way, i can roughly imagine that if the terrorist act was overseen by the fsb, then bortnikov is there, as they say , aside, putin, usually , even starting from ryazan sugar, from volgodonsk, where they blew up their citizens, their houses in order to direct all the anger of the population against chechnya. today, the crocus is being blown up in order to try to direct all the anger of the russians against of ukraine. and in such cases, putin and patrusha use a fairly narrow group

of fsb employees. a special group is being created, the activities of which no one is aware of, not even bortnikov, who only fulfills some political role. most likely, putin often directly accepts these serotnikovs, korolev and other fsb leaders and deputies of the same game. and in the conditions of such a narrow discussion, not such a discussion, where the theta-teta of two glasses of melich is partially shown on kremlinru , they agree on how to control terrorist act, what is the goal to achieve and what result to get? the safety of specific citizens, which at that time absolutely no one is interested in, the main thing is to get a political result. and these people you listed, whether they will suffer or not , think that god.

some other people may get hurt, not even hurt, as it is called , easy to get rid of, dear mr. general musayev, and i wanted to ask you about... here are the schedules, for example, what bortnikov himself is, what he has, for example, his relationship with patrushev, or they represent, so to speak, i don’t know , a certain wing, or they are characters of a separate plan, well, if we talk, for example, about those who carry out strategic management of similar processes, yes, those who pass, can pass, i ’m not sure, well , but they can pass, for example, the director of the federal security service, as is the whole matter...

an operational development case is drawn up, such a literal case, to which a very narrow circle of employees has access, and sometimes even one employee conducts an operation similar to the one that took place in crocus, that's why mutual relations, how they are built, i know from my own experience, i was the head of the knb of kazakhstan, and besides me, president nazarbai was able to summon any of my deputies. to hear the inner kitchen not from my mouth as the head, but from my deputy or even the head of some department, and according to the stories of my colleagues here in vienna, the situation in

the russian special services is even more complicated. putin's trust in specific leaders, let's say, is very low, and he often calls up the same orphan, the same royal, even head of the economic security service alpatov, who is, as they say, a favorite there. but the kitchen that has developed today is a struggle for the post of head of the fsb. the candidate for this post is the first deputy korolev and darofeev, who is closer to putin, head of the fsb in the city of moscow and the moscow region. and now these two figures are in such an under-the-carpet confrontation. according to the results of their fight, most likely darafeev may suffer. as my colleagues say here, because a terrorist act took place on its territory. fsb in the city of moscow and

moscow region has taken some measures. the us cia, did they know the general situation that the americans were announcing? well, the americans out loud, the americans publicly called on their citizens to be prepared, and this happened a couple of weeks before this massacre in ... in rokus, through what channels the americans or any other intelligence agencies could get this information, how did they even feel that something like this could to happen, how, how, i don’t know, the word of mouth is working, first of all, this is a message from the special services, the usa to some extent broke the cards of the russian special services, not for nothing at the fsb meeting, putin called it blackmail and provocation because

the message is true. of the russian federation, but the relationship was as putin said. that is, if the biggest boss said that it was blackmail and provocation, then there was an appropriate attitude. but despite this , i want to repeat that the fsb in moscow and the moscow region took specific steps. events of the crocusi group's picnic concert, it's friday , so just employees, like ordinary people, attend such a concert, and in such cases, security agencies always provide an outfit. the specific department of the fsb in krasnogorsk says: today there is a concert in krokus, and such and such employees will go there. and this is called an outfit. they don't have any weapons, they just have to record the situation at a large mass event. reveal there.

navalny's groomsmen, there are some others there, they have a lot of questions there. and even in the video it is noticeable that some men who ran from crocus during the terrorist attack had enough of such a special service appearance. that is, these are people from the official fsb uniform. and at the same time just vacationers. imagine a city moscow, and 15-20 percent of the population of moscow are people in uniform. taking into account such a militaristic regime. some people were at this concert, they all ran, no one took any measures to offer the slightest resistance to these criminals, i understand, there are no weapons, they came to the concert just to observe, at the same time an absolute puncture, so the fate of the same

dorofeev is quite complicated. head of the fsb in the city of moscow and the moscow region. what you asked, who will be affected, who will not be affected. i do not think that anyone will be punished with of the special services, after all, putin was well aware of this direction, this terrorist act. it is visible everywhere. he knew perfectly well what he was preparing. that as a result of this terrorist attack, he should have received national support, that migrants would be gathered. provided with a rifle, well, once you know how to shoot, then you will go to fight in ukraine. putin even received a lot of sympathy, as he says, from enemy states. this effect is very powerful, but he did not get the most important result. he could not tie ukraine to this terrorist act. well, on the other hand they are will try to do it in any case.