in this way, we get a tactical advantage over the enemy in details and, in particular , we will have an undeniable advantage in positional defense. these complexes i mentioned are already in use, albeit in limited quantities, and today the work being reported, in particular by deputy commander-in-chief andriy lebedenko, is aimed precisely at making these tandems fire as soon as possible. the enemy on the battlefield, and a whole set of measures is being taken in order to prepare the personnel, because this is the introduction of changes to the staff lists units, and prepare a repair base, and a vehicle base, and er, provide these units with ammunition on time, and the same old wolves have problems not only with the supply of the complexes themselves, but also with the provision of ammunition, so this is a complex solution, and to

it should be approached in the same way, training can already be carried out at these complexes, this does not require the state or the ministry of defense or any decision, the state should allow private individuals to conduct their own training, and then according to their own exams, for example, or exams in units directly, to allow people to use automated systems of defeat and firing, that is why there are such complexes, they ... will appear in mass production in the near future, we expect from week to week the signing of the first contracts for both tandem and saber and let's hope that the security and defense system itself will work out other elements, such as regular or supply or repair at such a fast pace in order to stop the enemy in those directions in which we now have questions. mr. pavle, yes

proposals, on the one hand, to create special experimental units there, which will take these new samples and develop optimal tactics for using them on the battlefield, but the other version is, as you say, simply take people, train them and then return them to the units already with new samples, which scheme do you think is more optimal, the scheme should be combined, but the legislation is built in such a way... now that a person can get a military accounting specialty in one or another direction only in specialized training centers of the armed forces of ukraine, and this is categorically wrong, it simply reduces the speed of training people to use such automated systems on the battlefield, so the solution must be comprehensive, we must use private companies that are also manufacturers of weapons in order to train people faster , in feedback. which

will come from the units, of course, should be summarized in the relevant scientific centers, we have them, they work out these issues, moreover, the scientific centers are preparing the relevant statutes, because now there will be a separate type of armed forces, and it must be accompanied by a law that determines how these units interact, communicate with each other, join as forces and means of the senior commander, in order to manage effectively. these units, if they will be created separately, although, first of all, they should appear in those combat brigades that have already been created, there are bipaks, at least, yes, separate turns of unmanned aviation complexes, they can be expanded to battalions , and it is possible to do quickly enough, and when we are talking about the commanders and the military themselves, because linguistically speaking, the model of equipment must be perfect enough so that during the execution of... a combat task, it was not

burdensome and did not create problems for the commander himself and for himself military, this means that it is certain that at a certain stage it is still necessary to add a component that ensures such a vital, constant connection with the developers, in order to quickly bring the development to a level that will really help on the battlefield, and not hinder the implementation one or the other tasks, well, this is the fantasy of every commander, but such an interaction between a developer, a weapon expert and the military is mutually beneficial, because by receiving feedback we can improve one or another product, and in return , using one or another means on the battlefield, we effectively transfer this information to other units, which can already tomorrow receive for delivery, get these complexes, the same tandem or saber and use them more than anything. sheet of paper, and to have the experience of both

the manufacturer and those combat units, where already practiced, well worked on these systems, i think they are educational. the centers that have already been created, i say again, at the manufacturers, they will be the first absorbers of this, this information in order to prepare the charter correctly for automated units, and to quickly change the staff, whether it is an operator, or an assistant operator, or whether the gunner, or the charger, as it is properly called, should be accounted for, and accordingly in what manner a man should be paid for his work, but that it is a reproach. changes the ground situation in the plan the conduct of the battle, the style of the battle, allows the commanders to be more, well, with more imagination to approach the placement of combat, fire means of destruction, it is true, and the most important thing

is that it is directly related to mobilization, we often say that there are no people in order to to conduct military operations, that's how people are, let's conduct technical mobilization. and then part of the people will be freed, because the work on the battlefield will be carried out by robots, be it unmanned aerial vehicles, or ground-based guided complexes, we have such developments, i say once again, we must help lebedenko so that these contracts were concluded as soon as possible, the people, that is, the manufacturers, are waiting for it, the people who are on the battlefield, the military are waiting for it, and i from that, from the meetings that i attended. i heard the supreme commander-in-chief's full conviction that this is the right direction for the development of our armed forces. another option, another advantage, such as a numerical one, for example, we will never have, we have no more than 20 men, now there will be five

to 60 more than the enemy, we can only have a technological advantage, let's have it we will ensure that if any draft laws or legislative acts interfere with us... make it difficult to quickly adopt certain types of weapons , well put them into service, they must be canceled, they must be changed, i do not think that the legislation should now interfere with the military, the legislation should help to receive new and new models on the battlefield as soon as possible, especially since they are unified models, because our small arms are the same and are applied to the saber, and to the tandem, and to other... or rifle complexes, we have each other and the same ammunition are hung to bombers, i insist that more intelligent means should be used, in the same fpv, there are types of ukrainian developers, weapons that allow

bombers to return, that allow the comprehensive use of this or that technique, not only as a bomber, but also a kamikaze, can work as a scout, and here is such a high... technological solutions that are long- lasting on the battlefield, they are needed, they provide a technological advantage over russia. by the way, by the way, you mentioned the decisions that need to be made as soon as possible, and there are unique cases when the system exists, it is not adopted, but now we see tablets with nettles there, and nettles have created an army of soz, there are specific people whom we know, but do not name, who have made efforts for this project, and so on. is being improved, but it is not in service, although there are tens of thousands of users in the armed forces, how to explain this paradox, should the ministry of defense not contribute more finances, some approaches to stimulate the developer, to further improve the product not only at his own expense initiatives?

look, i'm in favor of radical changes, i'm in favor of turning the system upside down, that is , if we know that nettles, hysarta, there is a whole series of co... for controlling the introduction of artillery fire, unique in fact, the same, my god, already i forgot, the complexes that allow you to very quickly direct artillery in order to defeat the enemy from the place where he fired a shot, and these ukrainian products should accompany units of the armed forces to ... well, scientific units, for example, in order to put them on weapons, not developers, because this system that exists now does not work in our country, when a developer goes, does not know where to submit documents, and then he is sewn up, or they say, there is an incorrect indentation, on the left or right, everything should be on the contrary, well, everyone

they use nettle in combat, well, so why is it not in service, there should be people from dvtp or tsvndi, the relevant units, who... took these documents from the developer and brought them to the adoption of the deployment to the order and that's it because it benefits us as a military, it saves our lives, no no no. workers, developers help us, and i am for this picture of the world to be turned upside down, the pyramid turned upside down, and we started these divisions that are in the structure of the armed forces, worked with the developer directly until the result was achieved, maybe i explained it difficult, but on i just know that when you were in the project office that dealt with technologies, something was done, was being done, developed, decisions were made, and now it seems that the ministry of defense... a certain pause, but it is more became more active at the level of the general staff and at the level of the ministry of statistics, although in my opinion the ministry of statistics

is a cool ministry, but in part it takes over a part of military tasks, which is not always clear to me, how to speed it up, does the accelerator work, or any nuances with this, so far, well slip? well, there is no slippage, now all the hard work has been transferred, i will say it again to andriy lebedenko, i think he will have a certain pause. in reviewing these decisions and reports for the commander-in-chief, but these are days, anyway, that days, it should happen very quickly, and we are very grateful for such fruitful cooperation, today i will say that the documents for the tandem already have ttx and the corresponding ones, well, that is, we have moved where we worked for months, we have now completed the work in 10 days, and the tests were conducted, and the documents were prepared, and the performance characteristics were already approved. by the relevant military commanders, that is , it will be a unique experience if we

work out at least three or four nomenclatures according to this scheme, i think that a separate order of the minister should be written according to such a procedure, because it will actually work, so it is a big challenge for us, but it is a vital need, i say once again, if you don't do it, if you don't put your feet, hands on these documents and don't do it, then nothing will happen on the battlefield... the infantry and everything will remain without any technological advantage, and there are decisions regarding the acquisition of the technological advantage of the ukrainians, let's take them and use them, i say once again, there is such an order from the commander-in-chief, and therefore we are working day and night to make these contracts appear and, accordingly, the next step was the technique by the way, well, for me this is actually news, because i did not think that such progress began with... against the background of the decision of general syrsky, against the background of the actions of his deputies, i see that the situation is really,

if we take into account your conclusions, well is progressing quite quickly, it is extremely positive to hear from you, i will say it again, mr. serhiy, it is necessary to approach this very comprehensively, because the change in staff, organizational structure of units, and preparation, and logistics, and repair, these are all interrelated. obviously, you can't just push the complex to the front and say use everything. this is very, well , in general, a combined military battle is a complex thing, and one must be ready for all this, including the commander, he must understand how he will use it in a battle, we are currently training, i think, on the basis of the university of defense we will put it together and conduct it , they will conduct it, which is true, no, well, those units, if the old ones want to help, please join, because combat experience is needed, but for now, with the forces and means of the manufacturers... we will conduct it, that's why both the saber and the tandem will be involved in these processes, i say again, this is

a ground component that has signs of technological superiority over the enemy, and we will do everything possible to have it contracted and delivered to the troops within weeks, well, this is very positive news, i wanted to ask you which gunner saw such a thing in many videos. where the military works in the so-called exoskeletons, when they take the weight and carry it with much less strain on their own backs, when i look, look at our artillerymen, i always remember that that it would not be bad if our developments related to exoskeletons somehow develop and find implementation, do you have any general range of problems in the military that require certain technological solutions there? so that our developers know this list of these problems and orient themselves in

what to do if the armed forces need it? yes, today the work on the generalization of developments has been completed and is ongoing 24/7. this data is all forwarded to the commanders in chief for consideration if they are interested, whether they react to it or not, i think even the commander-in-chief has time to review these developments. there is such a report, it seems to come every other day. as for implementation, today solving the issue, in particular with the mobilization and training of new... military personnel, is much more important than generalization, that is, generalization is a daily activity, but the changes we expect with the mobilization of both human and, most importantly, technical, i would generally a separate order would issue on the introduction of technical mobilization in the armed forces and others military formations, because this can radically

change the situation, if the developers do not need some additional contact, i... i just don’t see it right now, everyone, there is work, and both the ministry of defense and the ministry of defense are open to interaction, and the department of military-technical policy often issues clarifications about those developments that foreign ones come to us for use, so the commanders simply pay more attention to what we offer for review, and if you are interested in this, that this feedback appears communication to the appropriate senior on... we, for our part , will of course always conduct this work on generalization in a constant mode, so if something appears somewhere that is necessary for the troops, we must definitely move to the phase of placing on arms and contracting, and my, my main concern, to this time was minimized, in my deep conviction,

two weeks is enough for the finished product to be at the level of the seventh, eighth or even...well, even higher, it could reach acceptance into service in two weeks, not 45 days, as stated in the 348th, for example, by e uav, i i think that we have already passed this stage and we have to react, you see how often the frequency spectrum of control of unmanned aerial vehicles changes there, both from our side and from the side of the enemy, so there should be a very quick reaction to this, and you equipment was also mentioned. yes, the equipment that is already at war and has not been put into service, the problem lies precisely in the same procedure, which is quite complicated. i think that by reducing the number of units and signatures in this procedure, we will achieve that such ready samples of weapons will be accepted in two weeks, on weapons in the armed forces. mr. pavle,

thank you very much for these explanations, for new and important accents related to techno. significant progress in our armed forces, and let me remind you that it was pavlo kishkar, a major of the armed forces of ukraine, chief of staff, deputy battalion commander, we talked with him precisely about the technical mobilization of the ukrainian army, and we actually understand that this component also extends and the fact that this equipment, samples of weapons need to be repaired and serviced by ukrainians abroad, and this has certain nuances, how to deal with these nuances, how these problems... to be solved in the second part of our program after the advertising and information block. there are 20% discounts on helpex anticold in travel pharmacies for you and savings. there are discounts on amixin ic tablets - 10% in travel pharmacies, ban and savings. there are

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tuesday-friday at 10:00 p.m. hello, this is svoboda ranok, informative. radio liberty project. top guests every day. this is a shipping district. kherson turn on live. we are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut. we tell the main thing. on weekdays at 9:00. we continue our "war and weapons" program. in the first part, we talked about new solutions that the armed forces need, about shortening procedures, adopting weapons equipment to ensure the armament of the armed forces. and then we... will talk about whether foreign weapons take root in ukrainian for the ukrainian army, because on the battlefield we see the effective use

of foreign weapons, but we forget that, in fact, the ukrainian army now has a situation that no other army in the world has, given the fact that the weapons park is extremely diverse, and each type of weapon must be repaired, serviced, this is actually... such a nightmare for the logistics structures of the ukrainian army, and there are ukrainian companies that have some experience of interaction with foreign suppliers, and then the question arises, how to choose the best practices in order to solve the problems that exist in the armed forces. and now we are joined by vladyslav belbas, general director of ukrainian armored vehicles. mr. vladyslav, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you on the air of the channel. press, good day, thank you for the invitation, i am also glad to hear from you, i would like us to first talk about the topic related to the maintenance and repair

of foreign equipment, and then to what your company actually does. there is such a certain limited experience in ukrainian armored vehicles contacts with turkish armored vehicles that were supplied to the armed forces, and in fact there is... experience of working with other foreign models that are serviced on the ukrainian market, how to determine the most sensitive problems of servicing foreign vehicles and how to reduce the problems that are currently faced by our repair units, which do not have spare parts, repair documentation , etc., and this significantly affects the combat effectiveness of those samples, which we will receive in significant quantities. from our partners, the question is correct, uh, in its essence and in terms of the impact, which, what is the logistical

support, repairs, how do they affect the combat capability of the army, uh, really, if, the first time there, the 22nd year of supply was relatively fast and relatively unsupported. in general, we see that at that time we were provided with warehouse samples, weapons, and so on, and since the second half of the 23rd year, many manufacturers are working to attract local companies, either from the private sector, or from the ukroboronprom for creation of joint enterprises for the organization of service maintenance, supply of spare parts, our company, including... joins such work with american companies and with turkish companies, as you said, and that is why such a process is underway, and i would give

the palm of the hand here , probably to the germans, who have already created three joint enterprises and continue to declare such support from such, let's say , now france is also leading in terms of support, yes, declaring support. of ukraine, but most of the equipment we received from france is there it was still in a very similar, relatively non-working condition, and it was necessary to carry out just before finalization, maintenance or repairs of this equipment, and that is why i also think that now there will be some kind of such a wave of supply, and maybe also we can do it in ukraine, this work on... restoration or this technique that they can provide us, because they really declare now and are at the forefront of supporting ukraine, so... such

work is being carried out, such work is expanding, and defense forums held by the ministry of strategic industries, it also gives a certain understanding to the companies with whom they can work on the ukrainian market, the only thing i would add here is that the bureaucracy of this process should be reduced a little, and i will increase... after all, direct communication between manufacturers and producers, well, we mean foreign producers and ukrainian producers. mr. vladyslav, but for your company, this segment is interesting, or is it, relatively speaking, too costly, because there are many legal subtleties, nuances associated with each sample foreign equipment, and at times, perhaps even economically unprofitable, or on the contrary, this segment can really be interesting in addition.

activity profile provided by ukrainian armored vehicles? this segment is interesting from the point of view of getting acquainted with the technologies and operating experience that foreign companies have, the technologies that are used in their products, and of course you started with the fact that we have different, very different products, very a woolen park from the curtains. different countries, radically different approaches to the formation of this park of armored vehicles, and everything has now accumulated in us, and we still have no experience of using it before all this, yes, that is, we have used soviet equipment for many years, we understand the nuances, problems and so on, more or less, in order to in order to understand the nuances of some exploitation of brenlin there, you need to exploit it, so uh, there is such a,

let's say, such a problem, but uh, it is somehow actively solved both by the use of technology and by the fact that companies acquire certain experience, and - well, cooperation is also important here with such, well, that is, it is not so easy to get the possibility of such cooperation, you need to have certain competencies, you need to have production capacity. trained staff, you must be ready to invest in special equipment, tools, premises and so on, well, you are ready to enter this segment in principle, believing that it will give you both new knowledge and actually new opportunities regarding joint projects, maybe even with foreign companies , of course, and not only our

company, our... is actively engaged in this, and not only our company, there are a number of others enterprises that are also engaged in this direction, but as far as i know, there are no, shall we say, contracts with manufacturers, so as for, for example, the m113, they are repaired in the majority, as it is called, in an artisanal way, but what is important is that that i said we get such. it is quite such a simple technique, and it is very important to organize the rapid repair of such technique at a relatively short distance from the front line, because just logistical support is very important, and to repair the technique there at a depth of 1000 km or more and there for several days on logistics, on bureaucracy and so on, it will have a negative effect on the battle.

of course, mr. vladyslav, i would like to inquire about the policy of the ministry of defense, regarding the purchase of weapons, literally in march, at the beginning of the month , such a powerful tender was announced for the purchase of pickup trucks for the armed forces of ukraine, then a memorandum was signed with a korean manufacturer, possibly due to certain capabilities of this company, how do you see this procedure. tenders, which is currently going through the system of the state agency for arms procurement, or it is effective perfect, are you going to participate in these tenders related to pickups, because we remember your developments, on which your company spent a lot of money and there were good developments, i wonder if they are now in the field of view of the ministry of defense, well, here the situation is twofold, eh...