and it became a full member of nato, as well as the european union. we work diligently in both directions. since we see ukraine as an integral part of the euro-atlantic community and the club of democratic nations, presented.

it was rightly said that ukraine covered us like a shield, and that we are now behind it. that is why we express our unwavering support and solidarity to her. i am deeply grateful to the ukrainian people for their sacrifice, and we seek to explore all opportunities to support ukraine in its courageous struggle against the russian invasion, and also contribute to its development and security in the future. integration into nato, especially

into the european union, it is inseparable from the reforms that we talk about a lot, at one time many estonian politicians and activists tried to help in the reformation of georgia, and i can say that many remained disappointed afterwards, that we need to make sure that such disappointment does not arise later with the ukrainians. i believe that the most important aspect... this is of primary importance, which is why moldova and ukraine are considered candidate countries for accession to the european union.

as for georgia, although it is also a candidate country, there is a certain ninety-step ladder that it must climb in order to demonstrate its commitment to eu membership, reforms and the will to change are crucial, where they work.

we have supported her through various programs such as the aid and development program. currently, ukraine is also one of our priority countries, and we are also considering moldova. the involvement of these countries in the euro-atlantic alliance will not only strengthen security, but also provide prosperity in the future. i want to talk about the situation in

society, in particular in estonian society, how to prevent destabilization of the situation, which... will be taken care of by russia. you and i, by the way, are talking in the historic days when the center party lost power in tallinn, and where it was considered the voice, including of the russian-speaking population, for many years. how will relations between the estonian communities in estonia and the russian-speaking community develop. are you afraid of the radicalization of certain sections of the population, whether you like it or not are you worried about the pro-russian results? politicians showed in the last elections in the people, how estonia will cope with all these challenges? we have been working hard to achieve this goal, realizing the benefits for all parties involved. first

of all, i want to emphasize the positive results of the latest integration monitoring, which indicate that the russian minority... have integrated much better into estonian society, these data are quite encouraging, one of the important factors that contributed to this improvement, i believe it was the impact of the war in ukraine. more than two years ago, after the outbreak of full-scale war in february, we took steps to shut down russian propaganda channels in estonia, i.e. estonian cable networks. it is no longer possible to watch programs hosted by solovyov or skabeeva. i think this very decision played a role in the positive indicators we are seeing today. in addition,

the younger generation increasingly looks towards europe, distancing itself from russia. i will add that this game. we initiated the biggest school reform in estonia since 1991. in the following in six years we will switch to the unified estonian school system, which involves the complete closure of russian-language schools. instead, there will be one unified estonian school for all estonian children. this reform. has numerous advantages, in particular, it provides every student with equal educational opportunities. thus, removing barriers to their success in society. therefore, i consider this change in

the school system to be particularly important not only for the russian-speaking minority. as for the latest developments in tallinn politics, they are the result of a long process during which the centrist party was experiencing internal challenges and was trying to find its way. the war and russian aggression against ukraine played a significant role in this, because of which many members of the party felt discomfort and

were forced to leave the party. the party's position has weakened significantly, leading to recent changes in municipal politics, including today's events in our nation's capital. and while this is a regional problem, it reflects the wider implications of a shift in mindset. especially among the young russian-speaking minority and finally, maybe you want to say something for our viewers? i want to express to your audience

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how to stop this offensive, which should be the main tool, it seems to me that the offensive is going on now, it is the same big offensive and offensive, yes, and today we can talk about certain stages of the offensive, and we really need to do several things that will make the defense of the state more effective , position number one is fortifications, and i consider it a crime that we did not engage in the construction of fortifications. all this time, in fact, in reality, the state paid attention to fortifications by allocating money only in february of the current year. i can emphasize that please do not engage in pr trips, when everyone is shown the same platoon reference point. we have an official figure that

5% of 200 km of fortifications have been completed. which need to be built, i have the right to say so, because i have experience in building fortifications in the 14th year, and this cannot be some kind of closed club, because then it was drawn up, each region took over a plot in a clearly defined number of consolidated supporting points, every large enterprise, every construction company, every reinforced concrete plant constructions, each forest farm had its own task and... and here it cannot be justified by the fact that it is a state secret, because the russians from the satellite see the number of stars on the pursuit of our serviceman, and we need to prepare it qualitatively, second to last, and you can, i want to clarify, but if this is so, why didn’t we build fortifications of this level for all these 10 years, if you say that we started

building them after 14, we built them first, not after, but we started building them in 14 year and position where the fortifications were built, it was not only the east, but the fact that we still held avdeivka, maryinka, vodynoe, opytne, chasovyar, these are all fortifications that allowed us to effectively hold the front, and today, when the front line has changed, it has become much longer , and it is certain that now... the question of the construction of fortifications on the border with the russian federation, where the border is controlled now, it is the sumy region, it is part of the kharkiv region, it is the chernihiv region, and it cannot be nothing more important than this, and the second is the experience which we had, and we didn't build anything for 10 years, because in general, from the 19th to the 22nd years, we didn't

build much for the army. and this is already the topic of another conversation, but in 22 i want to emphasize that the so-called surovikin line with dragon's teeth, with minefields, with concrete structures, was built in two months, and its effectiveness, our armed forces, the world had the opportunity to see during the counteroffensive of the 23rd year. and then, if you just look at my speeches on the first in august of 23, there was a demand to introduce changes to the budget regarding drastic increase in financing of fortifications, starting from october, three bids were made in this regard,

strict instructions were given, but the construction did not start and no money was allocated. now we have the other extreme. when, unfortunately, we have a non-transparent allocation of funding, and a very strong delay in putting them into operation, we do not have this time, the period that was allocated for this is two months, it is two months that we had to submit this position, and i , of course, that i did everything in my power to settle it in parliament, at the level of amendments to the law, where it was completely ignored, i want to emphasize that... our proposal, our legislative demand for the creation of a temporary investigative commission on fortifications has not been put to a vote for the fourth month, and this, this is precisely the unity around which we have to unite, unity around the armed forces and unity around fortifications, because the people have the right to know, to know the pace

of construction, to know where we can support and accelerate. to know the transparency of funding in order to prevent grand theft the same persons lined their pockets, i mean kyril tymoshenko and others, who are now transferred and there is a huge threat that they will be transferred there again to enrich themselves. excuse me, today we are talking about, and i think we should talk about it, about the existence of the state, by the way, about the existence of the state and about western aid. in general, the chances are that after the easter vacation, the american congress will return to the topic of aid to ukraine and the decisions we are waiting for will actually be made. i am an optimist, and i am... firmly convinced that we will receive help from the americans, only it will not fall from the sky, it must be worked on carefully, but i want to emphasize that on december 1

i had a meeting with speaker johnson in washington, during the meeting of the international democratic union, where i am a board member, i had a meeting with 43 republican congressmen, there is only one topic of conversation: the vote on the project to help ukraine, and the mechanism of parliamentary diplomacy is extremely important, because the problems in ukraine are not with the executive power of the united states, not with biden, not with the state department, not with the pentagon, problems in the congress, and it was impossible by criminal inaction to allow ukraine to become a hostage of the internal political struggle of the united states, this is the most terrible mistake. and now

i can emphasize that the topic of internal struggle remains, one way or another the decision will be made. we have already lost a huge amount, even in six months of delay, and these are human lives, this is the territory. this is the combat capability of the army and a huge, huge number of consequences, so my prediction is that immediately after the easter holidays there will be given one or another format of the bill, there is a risk that the issue of 60 billion will be reduced only to the military part, because there is a desire to separate the military and the financing of the state's deficit. budget, humanitarian, civilian part, there is a position that it will be grant aid and what will be credit aid, but for ukraine

today it does not matter, loans, grants and all that, we need weapons, we need shells, we need air defenses, air defense, we need missiles, including long-range missiles, and we need eventually with the launch of jet fighters, i.e. f-16s, which will be an effective way to fight against russian cabs, against russian missiles launched from russian aircraft, and the f-16s have all the necessary means to either destroy them , or prevent them from appearing in the airspace close to it, and first of all... this concerns the united states of america, but the issue of western weapons is also an issue of the european union and nato. i would like to emphasize once again that i

know peter pavel very well, since his time, the head of the nato military committee, then a general, and now his initiative, which will allow us to receive almost 1 million ammunitions, including soviet calibers, already in april. 152, 122, this is a matter of life and death for us, and the fact that today money is ready to give a lot, starting from norway, finland, ending with the baltic countries, and the main thing is to organize the logistics, which was brilliantly done, and i rely a lot on these things, and the second position is that we have to define and find so that we can increase the effectiveness of the use of armed forces forces we are not russia. and we cannot afford to use assault groups, because if you compare the so-called

manpower, the mobilization resource of the russian federation is 25 million people, if they can be called people. the mobilization resource of ukraine in its current state is equal to one million. to myself, that now we are comparing 25 times more , and therefore we need to protect every ukrainian soldier, and for this i proposed a very important program, it is called safe soldier, it is a nato program, where every soldier must be provided with everything necessary, which will maximize the effectiveness of his stay in the armed forces, starting with armor. i takevlar helmet, protection , reb, heat, er, weapons, ammunition and all that, and finishing with a very high quality

training that... creates motivation, and in these conditions, certainly that will give an opportunity to review the numbers of the mobilization resource , about which so many people are talking now. well , it seems to me that the use of the state is still an institutional capacity, and here it is necessary to understand what is happening in the verkhovna rada in general, it will generally work, to what extent in the foreseeable future, to what extent can we fear a parliamentary crisis with the absence of a quorum, with the absence of votes necessary for the adoption of fundamental laws? excuse me, i think you are asking a question to which you know the answer, because everyone knows the answer, position one: the verkhovna rada in its current form is in a deep crisis and is unable to work, why, because it is deprived of its constitutional functions, by whom it is deprived, the office of the president, people's deputies have ceased to be parliamentarians, they stopped. to depend on

their voters, and to stand for a long time in a position of will, it is already refused by the majority, for this it is necessary to take several effective steps and restore the efficiency of the verkhovna rada. first of all, it is necessary to remove any unconstitutional measures initiated by the president's office, which are dedicated to... driving the deputies to mozhaisk, they cannot do it with european solidarity, and the monomajority is already, remember, a revolutionary situation, they do not want , they can't, in the old way, in the new way, but there is nothing without changes will be, therefore, the first position, the leaders of the parliamentary factions should meet with the president on a regular basis, in order to check the clocks and...

determine priorities, the people's deputies should hear the president, the president should hear the people's deputies, and mediators in the form of the head of the office or his deputies, security forces or rishals, will only harm here. the second position is a repetition of israel's experience, it is now probably transformed, but the government of national unity is for today. day is the only opportunity that gives the opportunity to not only to attract parliamentary forces, on the contrary , to prepare for the summer campaign, a powerful discrediting of ukraine, for which the russian federation is preparing. we have to be side by side, we have to unite and we have to unite around the armed forces. and i say once again, i supported general zaluzhnyi, i supported the entire team from zhenya maisyuk

to... mykhailo zabrodskyi, and in the same way now i will support general syrskyi, general bargilivych, and the commanders, i have known them since the 14th year everyone, these are all the people who received awards and titles from me, and i i know that they are capable of fulfilling the task, but we must stop trying to involve them in politics, we must say what the supreme chairman should be responsible for. the commander, what should the commander -in-chief of the armed forces be responsible for, what should the parliament be responsible for, and what should the government be responsible for, and this is the function, mission, role of the president of ukraine, who has these abilities to demonstrate in the conditions of the critical threat that ukraine now has. well, you are talking about a summer company for discrediting ukraine, it seems to me that it is a company for discrediting ukraine is already happening because this

situation exists. when the ministry of foreign affairs of russia, after the statements of president putin and other russian officials, accuses ukraine of having organized a terrorist act in the steps of city hall, there are others like that, there will be something else, of course, and what exactly, well, how is the campaign for a terrorist act different in crocusihol from what will happen? first, the company of the russian authorities and president putin. on, er, the discrediting of ukraine in connection with the terrorist act of kroc sita holla is exclusively for internal consumption, no one in the world believes a single word of putin, despite the fact that the main thing that putin learned as a kgb officer is to lie and deceive. this is his main specialty. i have the right to say so, because it is very similar to me, the model of his behavior in

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