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guest serhiy tsehotskyi, officer 59 separate of the motorized infantry brigade, glory to ukraine, mr. serhiy, congratulations, glory to the heroes, well , on march 30, they repelled the largest mechanized attack of the russians, so to speak, to compare with october, so what was on march 30, how actively did the enemy use its mechanized units, how many was burned, and in general, what were these heavy battles? well , directly, it was our neighbors who worked, using this technique, it went in their direction, but i want to emphasize that it was very effective, because almost half of it was burned, and almost everyone ran away from the other half. they left their cars and ran away, oh and this is very, very gratifying, because for a long time the enemy did not use equipment, or only uses somewhere closed positions. and so on,

but at the moment they tried to make such, say , a psychological attack, but on one part of the front, well, we all see the result, that is, if we understand correctly, you are talking about a psychological attack, the enemy was not able to achieve any significant successes reach and this attack was successfully repelled just so we can record it so i will say that if only somewhere at least one appears... at least 10, at least 20 pieces of equipment , a large number of different weapons are aimed there at once, well , it is appropriate to emphasize here that there were also mines, they worked on which they blew up, oh, anti-tankers, pilots, artillery, all of this in the complex is working technically at once, mr. serhiy, look, let’s talk about the general situation in your direction, to what extent the enemy has now

stabilized its actions, is there a certain revival now, because they are very actively talking now about the spring offensive of the russians, has it already started and are you now observing some... more intense enemy advance in your direction, in particular, well, there is no advance, there are attempts to advance, yes, yes, here, uh, at the moment, so the enemy, well, is active in what , in these small groups of their four or five little men, their task is to get to some point there and get a foothold there, this is a room, a basement or something there, well, and another thing, oh, that's it. such a task is given to them by their commanders there, the command, so that, well, in this way they quietly, as they say, they want to advance and, well, achieve some goals, but we constantly find it, but at the moment , just half an hour ago, a group

left again in the pervomaisky district, two of them have already been killed, we are still hunting for others, the situation in berdachy, semenivka, orlivka, yes, well, it is tense there , but on... how intense and what level of fighting is there? it is tense everywhere, so that you understand, because the enemy, well, first of all, is now demoralizing society by constantly shelling populated areas, such as novogrodivka there and the surrounding villages, that is, the s-300 is constantly flying is constantly pounding the positions with his kababs, this is it, well, they probably hope that this will somehow demoralize us, we will... hesitate and go back somewhere, retreat, nothing like that happens, everyone knows their task, we are strengthening, we are strengthening the borders our defenses, and this work is carried out day and night, we make various surprises in

the enemy's paws, including remote mining, well, here and there, here and there, every day , here and there, this kind of work takes place, mr. sergey, look, now we see you, we understand that in you are already warm enough there, the sun is shining now on the street, and we understand that the downside is that the ground is starting to dry out enough and the enemy can use mechanized units, has the active phase of using the enemy's armored vehicles already begun? no, there is no such thing , we do not observe them, on the contrary, we catch them somewhere in the rear, but our pilots fly and destroy the same sau, there the same... equipment that transports their personnel to the combat meeting, that is, behind this we are hunting, we are also hunting for the control points of these drones of theirs, by the way, i want to emphasize that we all more and more began to liquidate their

drones, that is, we plant them, this is the help that constantly comes to us from people, these donors, today they are very actively helping us. and we can implement, well , the tasks for which we collect all this, but now let's talk about gatherings and needs, we understand that war, you know, well, it eats up resources, that is, equipment is destroyed, equipment is destroyed, equipment is needed constantly and constantly, maybe there are some additional needs for our soldiers, i just wanted to you, mr. serhiy, have stirred up our volunteer and surrounding volunteer community a little bit, so sweat... there are needs for positions for bomber pilots, yes, the 59th separate assault motorized infantry brigade, the goal is a solid 3 million hryvnias, link you see, well , we are voicing this need of the 59th separate

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a network and the corresponding messenger of the information plan, how? telegram, the situation is not just ripe, it has long been overripe , well, the draft law has been registered, so to speak, on the other hand, we understand that here, after all , everything depends on certain details, and accordingly, your professional expert opinion on the problem with telegram, why so so to speak , the telegram was to blame, which can be adjusted and so on and so on, well, because the network is insanely popular and it performs many additional different... public functions, well, here we must tell all the viewers that we are talking not only about telegram, but also about other networks , but the biggest problem we have is really with telegram, because the founder of telegram is burav, a russian, we have a lot of anonymous channels, they affect our information space, our public

initiative investigated the whole network of telegram channels, including many anonymous ones that discredit our judiciary. excuse me, you and so on, look , you know, that’s what they gave, i remember some of the decisions of the courts, and i think that maybe we live in such different realities, well, i ’m digressing here, the successful reform of judges, there they are not the essence those judges who are dishonest, for example, we have a supreme court judge who went to the front in the early days, he has three children, and they discredit just such. all judges, that is, if we beat the sprouts who change the system and say that they are not like that, then we definitely will not strengthen institutions, and they also destroy the image of public organizations, leaders of public organizations, who are trying to implement this judicial reform, to clean the courts from corrupt judges, from judges with russian citizenship, that is, if we

block these processes, then we will definitely not change the judicial system branch of government, which is the third in... the state and branch of government, and here it is important to understand that if we do not control here and do not know the rules of the game, the information space, then we will lose, because russia pours very large colossal resources into the information war resource. this bill, which was submitted by mr. knyazhytskyi, a people's deputy of european solidarity, was supported by poturayev, the head of the specialized committee from the servant of the people and the head of the committee on freedom of speech yurchyshyn, this is the voice faction. thus... we see that a number of political forces understand that it needs to be regulated, but at the moment it is only about adapting our legislation to the european legislation that regulates social networks, it is about us understanding what the rules of the game in advertising are, what the rules are games with personal data, because currently, for example,

we do not know where and how telegram uses personal data, there is a huge advertising market in telegram and other social networks. this is a black zone, we do not receive taxes from it as a state, we now also need income in order to strengthen our defense capability and the economy. look, ms. irina , well, we understand that there are certain social networks, in addition to telegram, yes, these are also those social networks that belong to the meta group, instagram, facebook, we also have viber, we have tiktok, chinese, we understand, what is very poor social networks, but you just mentioned that there are ads, yes, there are ads, maybe even those that shouldn't appear, because they are not allowed in ukraine, but they are there, but it is interesting to understand, but how in other countries, do they also regulate social networks, or will we be the first country in the world that wants to regulate the work of social networks and equate them with the media, well, just in europe, these

rules began to apply this year, and implementation of the rules for... until 2027 of that european union or only individual countries? this applies to the entire european union and there will be the same rules for all countries, the same rules for all countries of the european union have already started, and in fact knyazhytskyi together with his colleagues, with yurchyshyn, with potoraev, there are a number of authors, co-authors of this bill, they took it as a basis , not all, but the key rules that apply in europe and simply. implement them here. that information campaign about banning telegram, treason treason, well, it doesn't stick, because it's just about to regulate it all. look, now we are talking, for example, about the espresso channel, about other media, there is a transparent story here , there is advertising, there are funds from advertising, we know that

on the telegram channel one post can cost 86 uah, and of these 86 uah the state will definitely not receive anything, well, these are unfair rules of the game, it turns out that pornhub, media, they pay taxes in ukraine, but there are social networks that do not... pay, and it's still a gray market, unregulated, and not should be, and when we talk about the fact that some telegram channels or other social networks can spread narratives that threaten our national security, the state should also regulate, well, look, here's the story, there are narratives that our officials like, there are narratives that don't like, you know, to separate the wheat from the chaff, it's really very, very painstaking work, here is the most important thing for me... not that some , you know, big censor determines what is harmful, what is not harmful, but that there is an office of that particular telegram or some other messenger

institution, where one could put these or the other claims where could come there from checking, could we come there with a printout and so on and so on , with a demand, for example, to block, because now we see that, you know, the communication takes place in the village of the grandfather, in the village of the grandfather, you understand, write somewhere, they will accept it, no whether the national council or , i don't know, the national security council will want to, they will direct, and they will use their discretion to react or not to react , as far as we understand, there are more than half of the cases that they do not react, for example, to legitimate logical demands, regarding this or that fake content, here is a proof mechanism, that this content is fake, another story, the mechanism of how to make it so that it all works harmoniously, well, we understand, but there facebook has its own rules. very clear, if you speed up there, you like to speed something up there, but facebook doesn’t like it, well, it cools you down a bit for 30 days, so to speak, and these are normal, transparent, clear

rules, but with all due respect to telegram , i cannot understand how they work with our society and how they respond to the requirements of our legislation, well, there we are journalists, tv channel, well, we try to work clearly and within the limits, but what about those employees? well, that's the problem that telegram is unregulated, and they can act as they want, and they don't get anything for it, and that's why we take these european rules, we have to establish who the regulator is, the legislators also have not come to a final conclusion on who will be the regulator, whether it will be the national council for television and radio broadcasting or another regulator, but each european country has its own national regulator, and in principle then they... have another, at the european level, in the eu , a separate general regulator with which they coordinate and agree these rules. we will continue to discuss this system, we just

talked with the head of the specialized committee , mr. poturaev, about the fact that we need to work out not just some declarative norms, that we will adopt something, come to telegram, they say: well, goodbye, go away. this draft law should be worked out perfectly by a circle of experts. you his, maybe make some adjustments before his will be considered by the committee, so that these norms are not declarative, but effective, that is why the discussion has started, this is great, there is a draft law as a basis on which we need to work, i think that here we need both media people and representatives of the public sector, and possibly foreign experience involve, so that we work out the real rules of the game, and not a declaration. mrs. irena, look, i would like to clarify this moment... we understand that the main problem of telegram is that many telegram channels are anonymous, it is not known who they are led, and this is the main threat, because people who read telegram, who

may not be sufficiently media-savvy, this is also a separate topic for discussion, how to increase the media literacy of ukrainians, but we are talking about the anonymity of certain telegram channels, which are harmful, which contribute these or other narratives into the ukrainian infofield, if we assume such an option that we vote... the law that will regulate this network, and accordingly there will be a need for all those who run these telegram channels to become those who will show their , as they say, it is true that i am behind them standing, good, but if there are those who refuse, will there be some mechanism and should there be and what should this mechanism be to block them or how will they be worked with? well, i think that it is the experts who should develop a real mechanism for blocking. such activity, because if we are talking about blocking this activity, well, anonymous, we are not, well, we are not talking about blocking social networks

as such. but now we are talking about the fact that channels should be transparent for consumers, we have to understand who is behind them, and we have to talk about the fact that if there is financial activity there, that is, if the telegram channel or another social network takes money for the distribution of advertising, the state also receives from it, well, profit, it cannot simply -just a tv channel, for example, espresso to pay tax. from advertising, and telegram channels or other social networks do not pay, this is an unequal market, unequal playing conditions, and sooner or later advertising, well, those who want to advertise, they will go from tv channels to anonymous platforms, where they can minimize their taxes, so the market is not regulated, it is 100%. mrs. iryna, please allow me one more time, look, just today the head of the profile committee, meaning, for freedom of speech , yurchyshyn announced that ukraine can

ban ticktok. about tiktok, earlier in the united states there were certain signals about the banning of tiktoks or the probable ban of tiktok, in ukraine, what is this connected with? well , look, it is necessary to ask mr. yurchyshyn to present his arguments, but this is also tiktok, it is the same as telegram , an information field that we do not regulate at the moment, the issue here is not to ban freedom of speech, it is that when we have... a potential war, in fact, a war is going on to destroy our people, we cannot not react and not regulate the information space from speech in general, that is, to allow some anonymous users to influence the information field, well, look, this is a restriction of freedom of speech, ms. iryna, i do not agree with you here, and so to speak, it would not pass through any venetian blind, so we cannot live in north korea with... with that

blue-yellow flag, well, we can't, that is, we we take european legislation, he compares cases, for example, which are there, i don’t know, in poland, in the czech republic, they are starting to catch up, but, that is, it is also extremely dangerous to chop with a checker, this is my personal position, but my position also coincides with yours, that things like that need to be regulated, yes, because if we fall, so to speak, into what we like and what we don't like and so on and so forth, we can cause, you know, quite a lot of... trouble, but if to the problem of the telegram, who do you think is lobbying for non-admission or non-admission of this bill, we understand that there are powerful telegram communities that have been blown into large sums of money, they have collected large groups of subscribers, i do not say, or do not evaluate, whether they did it qualitatively, whether they did it poorly, well, that is, powerful the audience, where sometimes they pour out all kinds of nonsense, and we understand

that the nonsense, well, it is... their earnings, well , here i have to emphasize once again that the bill we are talking about essentially implements european norms, that is, europe would not introduce censorship 100%, we are talking about the regulator, which should help clarify the field and make the same rules of the game, this is important to understand, about who can oppose, well, i am actually glad that the co-authors of the draft law... the main author is knyazhytskyi from european solidarity, potiraev from the servants of the people the head of one of the specialized committees, a co-author and yurchyshyn from the vote is also a co-author, that is, here i see at least three political forces in the parliament, which together with the union have the required number of votes to pass this draft law. here i don't see who could do it block, the only thing is to help the experts to form really high-quality rules

of the game, especially since the committee ... said that they are ready to involve experts and to involve the discussion so that there is no manipulation, of course, unfortunately, we have to let you go, ethereal time is running out, iryna fedoriv , ​​journalist, public activist, head of public initiative golka was with us on the air, now we pass the floor to our colleagues in the news editorial office, who have already prepared relevant information, anna eva melnyk is ready to tell it to us, so we pass the floor to you, anna here, and we ask you to briefly tell what this issue will be about. greetings, colleagues, thank you, i'll start with what the president talked about with the military and government officials, details later, stay with espresso. a three-hour and maximally specific meeting.

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