maybe north korea is meant, so we also need a reliable alliance, and in any case, a positive vote, at least for a package of military aid, at least for a loan, it will still be evidence of american allyship with ukraine in the course of this war, which was declared from the highest tribunes, the highest leaders, including the united states. mr. yaroslav, how do you perceive the prospects of the adoption of this law by the congress of the united states. america's solution to this, after the easter holidays, because here we are we have been watching this drama for four months now, or for the fifth month already, and we see that there are no concessions or any steps forward yet, i completely agree with victoria here, in fact any help for... the survival of the country is

critical, of course, the priority is military aid, in fact, this is the most critical thing that is needed in order to at least restrain, in fact, those plans of russia for advancement, which are clearly there, but we will not speculate on coffee grounds, it would be very good it would be the decision was made and they took part in it. trump's own republican in order to have co-responsibility for the provision of aid, accordingly to be included in the process of aid to ukraine, and here it is symbolic, of course, the quantity matters, of course the timing matters, but the very fact that the united states continues to provide courier aid, and there is bipartisan support in this, because actually it is necessary to make any decision, much more...

important, yes, europe is forced to help more actively, yes, we now see leadership france, and very often the fact that aid is coming is not even spoken about, which by the way, not well , if it is not typical of french politics, they are actually used to bragging about aid, here we have a different situation, when aid is not disclosed, but it cannot to replace the key one with...whose side is the united states on, regardless of which party is actually setting the agenda at the moment, it's a shame that, unfortunately, moments have been lost, particularly for strengthening interparliamentary democracy, when in fact my colleagues , who are actively working on of the united states, they should not have asked for a business trip abroad, but should have been sent to work simply on their own.

individual states, especially the republican ones, convincing, first of all, the society that could put pressure on its politicians at this time, we have certain problems with the connection with yes, mr. yaroslav, please, we had some problems, you finished, because they were interrupted, unfortunately, actually. no moment was lost for active parliamentary work, especially those people who actively, both in the majority and in the minority, actually could to work out a more positive solution, but we really started the parliament, the election campaign of the big elections, the presidential and a large part of politics, politicians of the united states, it is very important for us to get to the moment before this phase became even more heated. at least an interim

solution, yes, the amount is important, the amount is important, the time is important, the most important thing is military aid, and it is positive that now the speaker of the parliament is an outspoken trumpist, but still talks about the possibility of acceptance, we will to hope that, as with many politicians , his words will not diverge from reality, so we will receive the help, at least, which the politicians of the united states will be able to get in the election struggle. thank you, mrs. yevgenia, and what will happen if suddenly the congress of the united states of america does not make this decision? well, i still hope that the congress will make a decision, and just in april will show this ability, because if there was an absolutely, well, let's say this, legal response, we're going about our business, with its budget, let me remind you that it continued for quite a long time. this temporary

budget resolution and finally a full-fledged budget was adopted, and in my conversations with the congressmen they also said, well... we, first of all , have to solve our budgetary issues, and then immediately we will vote for the ukrainian and not only the ukrainian package, because there there is israel and taiwan, which, in my opinion, is also better to be in this joint package, because israel has a rather powerful lobby in washington. if we talk about this difference between there credit, not credit, then in fact most often we are talking about a possible loan. because no one has seen this text from johnson yet, there is only the senate text that was voted, there it is irreversible budget aid to the ukrainian budget, financial aid, then we are talking about a loan for the financial part, because if we talk about

part of the weapons, in fact these the money they stay in the united states, because these are the factories that produce them. the usa and these are patriots, heymars, and atakams, that is, all these names that we see in the ukrainian news, they are actually produced quite a lot often, if not most, if you look at the map, by the way, in republican states, so this additional communication that it includes jobs for americans, it also works, at least i use it when i talk to the american audience, how will it be, we will see, the lower house really returns from the 9th, they will work from the 9th to the 22nd of april, but in this interval we will understand how the events will develop, our friends from both parties, well, at least

they give such signals , which is still a vote there will be a solution, because in fact the face of the united states depends on it. not only in fact our fate and our victory, but also the face of the states themselves. well, the face of ukraine depends on the continuation of anti-corruption reforms, and the special representative of the united states of america for the restoration of ukraine, peni prinskker, spoke about this in lviv today , she says that these anti-corruption reforms and, in general, what is happening with the fight... with corruption in ukraine, the long-term depends on attracting large foreign investors to the post-war reconstruction of ukraine. let's hear what penny pritzker said. first of all, i would like to note the progress in the anti-corruption

reform, but it is important to maintain this momentum and continue to move in this direction, in particular for the possible accession to the eu. in order for ukraine to complete its recovery and be able to be prosperous. as a country that realizes its potential, we and ukraine need private sector investment, which means that ukraine must resolutely eradicate corruption. ms. victoria, how do you assess ukraine's steps to decisively eradicate corruption and what is penny pritzker talking about? you know, it seems to me that we should be divided on this issue. corruption reform, the issues themselves, yes, and only then the efficiency, as it is reflected in practice, because again , on the other hand, we really fulfilled all the requirements of the european union, we voted for very strict requirements both regarding the declaration and the independence of the anti-corruption infrastructure

, sorry, anti-corruption infrastructure bodies in general, such as there nz, sap, which is already separated today. from the gpu, nabu, of course, which today, well, announced the suspicion quite a bit to a serious official who, who is called close to the office of the president, that is, in principle, we see certain results of this work, but the fight against corruption is certainly a broader and more global concept, and therefore spheres of control, spheres of transparency, tools... transparency, they should be maximal, because today we really exist at the expense of taxpayers in the countries of the european union, in the united states and in those states that support ukraine today, and it is extremely important for us to show today that all these funds, they really

are transparently spent, and here, i think, we could do some more work, i mean, there could be more of a role for the ukrainian parliament, it could be... an increasing role, temporary investigative commissions, what a wonderful law we have on this , but we often do not create them on vital issues, here is one small example, we initiated a temporary investigative commission of the parliament regarding control, deputy control over the construction of fortification, this is an extremely important topic, 17 billion, the first tranche was allocated in january, today literally another 5 billion of budget money was allocated, this is a huge amount of money, and you know, this is money, well, what is called allegedly both concrete and forest, it is difficult to control, it is difficult to reflect all this even in the system transparently, because they say, some decisions should be classified, because it is about national security, okay, let the deputies sign, let

them control this process, but no, we have blocked this topic, so it seems to me that here, in addition to the anti-corruption infrastructure itself, anti-corruption bodies, there should still be the will of all state institutions and personally, in fact, of each official to this maximum accountability, to maximum transparency and to... various forms of control, including, for example, control by public organizations, well, there is no need to deal with it now, spare me the destruction there image of anti-corruption public organizations, and this is exactly what we see, this is exactly what is happening now, attempts to undermine trust in these people, this is definitely the wrong way, in fact, increasing this field of transparency and control will lead to more... trust primarily of ukrainian society and of course our international partners, therefore

this practice must be spread, not narrowed down was once a freelance adviser to president zelenskyi's office, returned to the security service of ukraine in august 22. to the position of deputy director of the department of national statehood protection, well, now he is being indicted, actually the case of the 22nd year, we are talking about the seizure of almost uah 95 million in ukrzaliznytsia, and the purchase of transformers during martial law, and in fact, this whole story smells so stupid against the background of what pena pritzker says and in general. how we look in the world, mr. yaroslav, in what

way, what is still missing so that ukraine does not look like a country of corrupt people and a country of people, where hundreds of millions of hryvnias are simply taken and stolen during the war. effective investigation of these cases, we now mainly rely on the formal service of suspicions, suspicions are handed to us enough. high officials, but we also have to understand that it actually takes time to effectively prove guilt in court, to effectively investigate such cases, and most positively, our international partners understand that, of course, we need to understand that what is being exposed now such a number of cases is not proof that corruption has increased, it is proof that anti-corruption bodies have begun to work and give ... results, a huge homework has really been done to ensure their independence and efficiency, cards

in hand, do, work, the main thing is really not to interfere here, and i also agree with the fact that we need to show where it is appropriate and where it is possible to ensure maximum openness, we somehow have our own time told about what cannot be informed. through the prozoro system on the procurement of the ministry of defense, it is not about weapons, it is about material support, the mechanism has been found, now in principle, unfortunately, after the scandal, yes, although in reality it would be much more positive if and without him, the system is changed, it significantly produces its results, and here, by the way, here is an indicator of how the ukrainian authorities behave, regardless of political affiliations or any positions. it is worth acting when a problem is exposed, you don't need to look around and

try to discredit journalists or activists there or oppose the investigation, in fact just sit together and fix the problem, because it's not even that dangerous, but having a corrupt person in your team there, he can be removed on clean water, but broken rules that allow corruption itself restore, that's a lot. because one awl will be replaced by another soap, so in this case it is very important to actually show the cases that will already come to a decision, and it takes time. but actually the dynamics are quite positive, the second thing is to change the attitude and not immediately try to close the world of criticism and in some comfortable information bubbles of yours, yes, but to respond to criticism and correct mistakes in advance, well, really more transparency, more mechanisms,

as there are various kinds of controls, and public public control, and parliamentary control through special commissions , that is why they were created, so in this case, well, the dynamics are good, and sometimes we need to hear what our international partners tell us, they perceive much more positively what us in the fight against corruption is happening more than we sometimes perceive, well, we actually live in it, so it is logical that we live in a war, and of course we perceive it much more painfully, but there is progress, it is important here to make it irreversible, well and besides corruption, we we understand that russia is now working quite seriously in ukraine with various intelligence networks, various groups, through the church, through information resources, through messengers, in particular, regarding the use of telegram, this week, or rather at the end of last year

, the head of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense, general kyrylo, spoke . budanov, it is clear that the range of issues and problems facing ukraine is quite large, but russia was and remains a country that influences and tries to influence the internal the situation in ukraine, maybe corruption is also part of russian influence, because where it is sold and bought, of course there is russian money in it. including, ms. yevgenia, we have already seen over the last few days how the russian orthodox church declared a holy war against ukraine, we see how the russian special services are trying to play with the telegram and trick ukrainian citizens into surrendering ukrainian positions and many, many other things, we

see it in this messenger, including the creation of fake ones news and... those fears that are then multiplied in ukrainian society, what to do with these challenges, what to do with the information sphere, what to do with the branch of the russian orthodox church, do the authorities now have a clear understanding that these influences need to be neutralized, because the war will end, but this whole agent network, agent... networks will remain and influence too, well, let me somehow move on from the previous question, i didn't have the opportunity or the time to answer it, but actually you said it right, that one of these topic, so the narratives of the enemy, this is a failed state, yes, that is, a country that did not succeed, could not, and part of this narrative is

that there in ukraine absolutely... aid is stolen there and so on, and by the way, they spread it and outside, and let's take the detention of anyone, whether it is a former adviser there or anyone or some official, as a sign that corruption is not tolerated, it is not, well, someone is not covered, but really the anti-corruption bodies nabu has the ability to serve suspicions, investigate cases, regardless of who is involved. these things because this is actually a sign of a healthy system, so that when it is not, there are no untouchables, and not that it is not talked about, or that it is hushed up, or that someone is covered up, if we talk about the influences of the enemy and so on, because this well, in fact, the humanitarian policy committee is considering a draft law regarding

the church, which is connected to the aggressor country, so let me remind you that back in december 2020. on the 22nd of the year , the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, issued a decree by which he imposed sanctions on part of the clergy, a church that is affiliated with russia, determined that the kiev-pechersk lavra should be returned to state management, because it is state property, but it should be returned to management and a law should be passed that will make it impossible for religious organizations that are connected to the aggressor country, so the bill took time ... it is already in the second reading, and i hope that, well, if not in april, because we will obviously have a question of mobilization in april, then whether at the end of april or in may, it will be put to a vote. hall, we already have a solution the main committee for the second reading, we will also take into account the position of the lawyers of the verkhovna rada, the ministry of justice and make certain clarifications this

week, but literally the day after tomorrow we will convene the committee, and then it will be considered in the session hall, but i am sure that there will be 226 votes of people, who understand what a threat it is, but again with respect for international rules, for the echr. to all the rules, and we definitely do not pursue viral stories, because we are talking about a threat to the nation's national security, if we talk about informational threats, then i would looked at it more broadly than telegram, because actually there is a lot of disinformation and wix in the former twitter, especially that disinformation that goes to the western world, which then votes, and we say, why don't they vote for us. this support, because they were read, including disinformation. tiktok, in my opinion, is, well, difficult to evaluate, maybe this is my subjective assessment, but there are a lot of narratives, and

just now i was at a meeting with the vice-prime minister of digital transformation, i discovered 12 00 fake accounts that spread disinformation about ukraine on tik tok, including against mobilization, and this is... the top topic right now and i wish us and you and all colleagues wisdom when we consider the law on mobilization, because now a very big informational attack from the side of russia, so that in the end we fall out, do not accept anything and , you know, are left with what is, or even worse, therefore, if we talk about possible sanctions there or the voting of some laws there, then eh, by the way, let me remind you that networks such as vkontakte were banned by the nsdc, not by classmates some laws were voted on, if i am not mistaken, it was ms. victoria who was the head of the committee, and then, when these sanctions were in place, now, well, we

listened to mr. fedorov regarding the risk assessment and certain actions, i just can’t talk about these actions yet , but i hope that they will be voiced, will be accepted in order to precisely level the influence of precisely... those telegram channels and these fake tiktok accounts that spread propaganda and promote war, or deliberately spread misinformation in order to to demoralize ukrainian society. thank you, ms. viktoria, you successfully fought vkontakte and classmates at one time, where now there is a threat to national security. in the information field, in particular, if we have shifted the emphasis a little, and in what way can these threats be overcome? yes, let's put

it this way, in 2014 i had to close russian tv channels on the territory of ukraine, to organize this process, it was very difficult, and then, by the way, our western partners wrote a lot of dissatisfied letters about the fact that you can do this to do, because it is an attack on freedom of speech, now the situation has changed and it is very good that it came consciously. that wars start here, they start here, and the information society in which we live, the information space we actually live in our bubbles, and this fragmentation of the information society, it is happening, and this is what is put into our heads , we believe in topics, well, as a society, i mean as a social group, and that is why this is the number one question, because we are the ones, what we consume, just as an informational product, and it's very important, i really think that... there is a threat that telegram is the number one source of information for the country, it's a threat because 80% of people are on telegram, and what's the problem with this resource,

we we know that durov is the same telegram owner as vkontakte, the truth is, well, that is, now russian politicians are openly talking about the fact that we have excellent cooperation, our fsb has excellent cooperation with durov, we have full coordination in general. in the context of the telegram, well, we say: no, that's all ok, it's fine, it's a russian messenger, we know that, we know that they have cooperation with the fsb, it's fine, we don't make this decision, well, i think the time has come, i was actually comforted by the statement of the adviser to the president's office mykhailo podaluk, that the president's office does not control any telegram channels, because it seemed that there was some kind of illusion that there was political control over a part of telegram. channels, and therefore do not perceive this messenger as hostile, but it seems to me that there is a key problem that needs to be solved here, if not already i want to apologize for any technical

problems, then at least... well, listen, it must work according to a certain standard, this standard was implemented by the same youtube, yes, the same facebook, that is, in principle, civilized social networks work with it, i have to i'm sorry to interrupt you , i have limited time, i just have to go off the air, mr. yaroslav, let's talk with you separately about telegram, because it's your profile question, sorry, we're just going out of schedule, thank you all for participating in the program, yaroslav. are they needed in ukraine? diplomatic relations with belarus lukashenka. 18% yes, 84 - no. we put an end to this. it was serhiy rudenko's verdict ghost program. goodbye.

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greetings to all viewers of espresso yana yavomelnyk and the news editorial office tells about the main events on this hour new aid package from latvia. the country's government will provide 5 million 300 thousand yen for the reconstruction of our state. another 4 million 300 thousand will be allocated for support. forces of ukraine through the european peace fund, the press service of the verkhovna rada reported. it was also noted there that latvia is taking care of the restoration and reconstruction of the chernihiv region, in particular the reconstruction of schools, kindergartens and hospitals. almost a thousand rockets, 300 shaheds, and 700 guided aerial bombs. this is how much russia has launched in ukraine since the beginning of the year, president volodymyr said zelensky, prime minister.