the country that attacked russia, or why they have the right to kill our military, but this is a rhetorical question, this is a question for our great theoreticians who sit in some western scientific and analytical centers and suck some completely absurd ideas out of their fingers, well, but that's why i believe that ukraine will receive a long-range system and taurus and atakons and so on. it's not really about attack, it's about defense, it's about defense and about preventing the bombing of ukrainian cities, villages, military facilities, whatever, by the country, the aggressor, so to call it attacks, well , my tongue does not turn back, just as the destruction by the ukrainian defense forces of the same... military facilities on

the territory of the russian federation, but already by our means, our , uavs, of various types and types, as well as the destruction of infrastructure that works for the aggressor's military goals, these are absolutely legal defensive actions of ukraine, although it concerns the territory of the russian federation, well, in relation to the second part. your question, regarding, tell me, regarding, regarding the amount, regarding the amount of air defense, which, regarding the amount of air defense, which, which, which we should get, there is nothing to talk about here at all, you are right, you are right, this number of systems that are in the hands of our western partners is enough and... enough

for to be calm that in case of any attack by the russians, everything will be under control. but here, again, this crazy fear that moscow might think something, it just, uh, turns some of our western partners into, i repeat again, scared penguins, who, who run on the ice and flapping their wings. and they are afraid of what will happen in a second, they need to stop being afraid, russia will understand perfectly well when the forces of our western partners appear on the territory of ukraine, when those weapons appear on the territory of ukraine that will really destroy russia's ability to attack us .

such terrible missile strikes, so it is from the same oper, as they say, mr. sergey, you just need to stop being afraid. well, you see, unfortunately, so far both the leadership of the usa and the leadership of germany are afraid of their own valid, unfortunately. mr. volodymyr, are you afraid of strikes by ukrainian drones on strategic objects on the territory? anthony blinken of russia, although he admits that ukraine needs a lot of weapons and it is absolutely necessary to provide, as he says, more military aid to ukraine. let's hear what the secretary of state of the united states of america said. our position from the very beginning has been that when it comes to ukraine, we should do everything we can to help it defend itself against russian aggression, but we do not support and we do not encourage ukrainian strikes. outside its

territory, but we have been talking about this since the beginning of our program, and in other broadcasts we talked with you about the fact that western partners are afraid that we will attack the objects that are from our point of view are important enough for the russians, for the russian army, and they influence the course of the russian-ukrainian war, our... western partners constantly, constantly hold us back and say that it shouldn't be like that, when they will have an understanding of what between what is happening in ukraine and between there is a direct connection with what is happening in the rear of russia. well, you know, mr. sergey, to be honest, well, to be honest with you, i have repeatedly listened to and read this, this piece from blinken's speech, but i honestly cannot... understand his logic,

that is, it turns out that russia can inflict insincere deadly blows on ukraine, and ukraine must. to refrain and thus provoke these strikes in the future, that is, if you do not destroy the enemy, then he continues to do his evil, nasty work, then i do not understand why in america so they love russia very much, and why is it believed that russia should remain intact, the infrastructure there should remain in normal in normal... conditions, the objects there should not be destroyed, from which missile and other strikes are launched on ukraine and so so on and so forth, that is, i honestly cannot accept this logic, it is something twisted and skewed, i really want our

western partners to finally explain their phrases using these phrases, that is, i told blinken such a phrase, please , decipher it yes... and then you just know, the phrase is said like that, and it is broken, and then think what you want about the reasons for such a phrase, but it seems to me that journalists should be asked to, at press conferences, still try to bring this logic to the end, to ask and what do you mean , that is, how do you explain it, please, i think that then there will simply be fewer such phrases, because they are illogical from the point of view of, well... banal approaches and assessments, to me, it seems to me that in principle, there should be no such phrases. absolutely right. mr. volodymyr, one more thing questions about our closest neighbor, belarus, lukashenko, who repeatedly scared the world with the third world war, frankly

admitted that he is preparing the country for hostilities, although he says that he does not want to wage war, but he is forced to prepare because everyone on... circle of the enemy, let's listen to what lukashenko said. i don't want it to be the end of my presidential life, after all, i did a lot with my colleagues to make this country comfortable for life. i do not want our people to fight, it is for personal reasons, but for the state we don't need anything. i repeat this constantly, we don't need someone else. here, sir. does something in this situation depend on lukashenka, that belarus will not fight, or does he no longer control anything in his state? well, mr. serhiy, here is the question: what to fight and who to fight with? well, are there

forces in belarus today that can do something on the battlefield. i will repeat once again, i do not comment on matters that concern our military, i... trust their assessments, so these assessments indicate that there are, frankly, combat-capable, units prepared for real combat operations, well, there are practically none, that is , you understand, it’s one thing to run around the training ground and shoot these empty cartridges and do pav-pav, and another thing is to actually fight and understand what it is, that’s how our troops are... experts whom i trust convince me that there is no serious force there, yes, they can, the only thing they can do is to draw a certain number of ukrainian defense forces, that is true, but get involved in provocations , in those

things that will be disastrous for them consequences, well, i just honestly don’t understand, unless under extremely strong pressure from putin, and when lukashenko has nowhere to go, but i think that he has demonstrated all these years how much he really does not want belarus to be drawn into this war, because he perfectly understands how everything will end for him, and for him personally, because in the end everyone will understand that he is responsible, so i think that this, mr. sergiu, is in the majority.. in most cases, this line is continued on the intimidation of the west, you know, when everyone is already in awe of this whole trinity of putin, medvedev, lavrov, and zakharov sings along, we need a new

face, well, they found him, they said, father, come on, well so the father starts to invent something on the go, to freeze. well, but, but it seems, well, frankly, from the point of view of common sense and common sense, well, inadequate. thank you, mr. volodymyr, for the conversation, it was volodymyr. diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-9, friends, we are working live tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, if you are watching us now on youtube, please take part in our vote, we are asking you whether ukraine will receive an invitation to join nato in 2024, what do you think, yes, no, uh, if you have your own special opinion, please write in the comments below this video if you watch us on zdorsmart tv. background or phone and vote if you think ukraine can get an invitation to join

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adoption or with a postponement of adoption, are coming into force the law on mobilization. congratulations once again to everyone, regarding these laws, how will it affect, well , the mobilization potential is definitely expanding, because new people can be involved in this, by the way, i did not... vote for this law, and then for some months therefore by the reason being that at that time i had already submitted a bill on determining the term of service, and i have a very simple position: i am in favor of mobilization, but when it is combined with demobilization, well , you can’t only recruit people and not let anyone go, if you want to recruit more people, well then release at least one of those who have already been fighting for the third year, determine the term of service for those who are fighting now, and for those 25-2 six-year-olds who will now be called up, this issue is important for them, for their families, well,

a question number one, which stands in the state, but no one is solving this issue, and it is absolutely wrong, and another law signed by zelenskyi is about the elimination of the so-called category of those with limited fitness, which means that not only this rule is there, but this rule will have the greatest social impact, on people, to the army and so on, i... understand, there really is a huge problem, well, maybe not all viewers understand what we are talking about, i will explain very quickly, the military is there, for example, after an injury or just there after an illness, it can all happen, they undergo military medical commission, the military medical commission determines a soldier fit for service, unfit, or limited fit, and this category of limited fit, unfortunately, there are thousands of such people in the army now, there are a lot of them, and this is a problem. because when there were not many of them, you could still find full-time positions for them, not in attack aircraft, not in the infantry,

somewhere in the headquarters, in the rear, in logistics, in support and so on, when there were so many of them, then they simply began to be taken out of state, and what is taken out of state, they began to receive 600, 700, 800 hryvnias per month, well that just bullying, people can't live with it, but no one let them out of the army, even last year i submitted a bill to give the right to demobilization. limited to suitable, but it was not even considered. last year , it was possible to achieve, this is also my bill, payments of 20,100 hryvnias to one of the categories of freelancers with limited eligibility after being injured , but for many, it did not solve all the issues. and now this issue is being resolved in such a way that there will be no limited-fitness, that is, by the end of this year, all the limited-fitness will come back to the military medical commission, which recognizes them as either fit or unfit. and here is the key, the fact is that, again, i did not vote for this law, but for

the following reason: our military medical commissions, unfortunately, work very badly, and in them, i apologize, but in principle, everyone is suitable , and now, if now those with limited fitness will pass, and 95% of them will be recognized as fit, and only 5%, for example, will be recognized as unfit and they will be allowed to demobilize, and the others, let's say... "now you are fit, and now you can join the infantry in stormtroopers and so on, then this can have simply catastrophic consequences for these people, and you understand what we are talking about, for their health and life, so i..." there is still time, there is still a month, while this law signed by zelensky will come into force, then the cabinet of ministers will have 3 months to approve by-laws, but now it is necessary to urgently put things in order in the military medical commissions, and that these should be real examinations, that a large number of those with limited suitability should be allowed, because there are really many of them

they will not be able to serve fully, they must be sent home, and this is... an important question, mr. oleksiy, on april 10, the verkhovna rada should return, or after april 10 , the verkhovna rada should return to consideration of the law on mobilization in the second reading, there 4 thousands of amendments, all of them passed the parliamentary committee, profile, and now in the version supported by the parliamentary committee, the verkhovna rada of ukraine of ukraine will consider this law, according to your feelings, how long will it take... will be in the verkhovna rada to adopt this the law and whether as a result president zelenskyi will sign this law, or every time there will be some norms that will not suit zelenskyi, he will simply promise this law until there are those norms that will suit president zelenskyi. well, let 's start with the second part, you can't pass any

law to the verkhovna rada without the vote of the servant of the people, so i think they should figure it out there. with each other, and if a law is to be adopted, then what the president will sign, probably, well, that's their business indeed april 10 is possible because we don't know and i'm not sure if this law will actually be considered, we'll see if it will be considered, it's possible, how quickly it can be passed, it depends on which final version, because we do not know it, there the committee is still preparing certain committee amendments that have not yet been approved. which will precisely answer sensitive questions, who has a postponement, the right to demobilization, and so on, if, well, there, for example, i submitted 100, 100 amendments to this law, i will insist on a large number of them, because they are principled, it’s about the terms of service, what they rejected, there they leave 36

months there, as if the term of service, although it gives a very long, long time, well, but even these 36 months are not there . then they write according to the decision of the rate, and now the committee wants to fix it by a separate decree of the president, but in fact it will mean the same thing, that 36 months will pass, and no one will release the person, then it will be just a deception, and this is the worst that can be to do, that's why i think, i'm not the only one like that, that's why i think it may take a few days to consider this draft law in the session hall, if it is presented, i repeat, i am not sure about this, but in what form? it will be in the end, when these amendments are passed, and then it will be possible to understand and decide what to do, because , for example, for me, if there will be no real service life, or as now they have failed my amendment by rotations, so that legislate that there should be a mandatory rotation, that a person cannot be at zero all the time, that he should be at least there at three months, one month, in which a person

is taken to recover, even if it all fails and so on. there will be no draft law, but i personally do not see the point of voting for such a law, that is, the probability that it will be adopted quickly with the wishes that are there, well, at least half of those wishes or amendments from the people's deputies of ukraine is quite a small probability, well you know, with our verkhovna rada with the servants of the people, the president, for example, you just said, but when the president does not sign a law for 10 months, well how, how here, what can be predicted, mr. serhiy, i am with predictions and will be very careful, i want to tell you, this law can be very correct and necessary, it can give the right to leave the disabled, it can consolidate the legislative rotation, it can establish finally, the term of service, that is, it can determine a lot, answer many

questions, and then it will be a very important, very necessary law, which will have to be adopted urgently, but... it will turn out to be an absolute soap bubble, and it may even turn out to be bad, therefore, i am not ready to give a forecast now, but the issue is super important, super sensitive, and i want a responsible approach of my colleagues to it. president zelenskyi said that ukraine does not need half a million mobilized people now and said that russia plans to mobilize an additional 300,000 military personnel at the beginning of the summer. let's listen to what president zelenskyi said, well, we don't need half a million, i will be grateful for the audit, it is important that he found strength within the armed forces. of ukraine, the corresponding amount, which was not at the front, they will be at the front, and as for the individual number, how much

will be mobilized, i am not ready to tell you yet, i can say that russia is preparing to mobilize an additional 300,000 on june 1, 300,000 for the military, here is president zelensky again no... he does not say, he is the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine, but he cannot or does not want to name the number of those people who need to be mobilized, and why is this a problem at all, if he says that in russia 300,000 want to be mobilized , and we don't have 500, but i don't know he is not ready, he says to name why, why does it happen, well, i don’t know, this is me, maybe he has some kind of secret, secrecy, i don’t know what his... i want to say one thing here, when we are told by russia now mobilizes 300,000, or this one, look, we cannot fight

russia with the number of people, well, that is, if we want to follow logic, russia mobilizes 300, then we must mobilize 300, okay, and what will we do when russia will mobilize another 2 million or 3 million, well, that means it is a road to nowhere, we are much less than the russians. well it's there of course, i would be happy if it were the other way around, but it is so, and fighting russia with the number of troops, well, it makes no sense to us, and it is a path to nowhere, it is a path to defeat and disaster, our task is to fight with a high-quality strategy, intelligent tactics and powerful weapons from our partners, including our own, powerful, effectively. modern, well, this is the approach and in general to fight asymmetrically, but what about in the black sea, we, not having a fleet, well, that is, roughly speaking, russia

had a fairly large black sea fleet there, we had almost no fleet, well, that is it was possible to go the way, let's build as many ships as in russia, well, we are not able to do it, these are colossal funds, this is time that we do not have, these are people that we do not have, and we started using naval drones, and in fact... they created a new page in the war at sea and in history, and in fact, well , maybe not, if they did not defeat russia in the black sea, well, then for sure we have a draw there, and their large fleet has become not so large, large its part is already at the bottom, at the bottom of the sea, and it will continue, and so on there is no way to use this advantage of theirs in the fleet, they are not capable, this is called an asymmetric approach, and this is the only way we can fight them, any other... approach is doomed, well, to go through minefields on concrete is their fortification, well we tried last year, well, you and i all know the result, that is why it is necessary here, i am categorically

against the fact that we try to catch up with russia in terms of the number of people, and when they tell me the numbers, but where is the more important ukrainian man today, with kalashnikov in a trench, or behind the wheel of a bulldozer that is building fortifications or on... a factory that produces fpv drones, or drones that will fly to tatarstan as well, as we have seen everywhere, and burn the russian military industry and, well, the oil industry, so there must be a very, very reasonable approach here , and besides, well, only the commander-in-chief together with the commander-in-chief, together with the rank of the supreme commander-in-chief, only they can do it, because the others have no authority, no information, no data. thank you, mr. oleksiy, for the inclusion, it was oleksiy guncharenko, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently

watching us live on youtube and facebook, please subscribe to our pages, take part in our survey. today we ask you about whether ukraine will receive an invitation to join nato in 2024 . yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube. if you have your own special opinion, please write. in the comments, it is important for us to know your opinion, if you watch us on tv, take a print smartphone or phone and vote if you think that ukraine will receive an invitation to join nato in the 24th year 08021381, no 08021 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, ilya yevlash, major of the armed forces of ukraine, spokesman of the air force command of the armed forces of ukraine, will be in touch with us. mr. major, i welcome you, thank you for being with us today. i wish you good health, mr. serhiy, thank you. mr. major, yesterday lukashenko said that he was preparing the belarusian army for war, and he...

says that i do not want to fight, but there is no other way out but to prepare for war. does this mean that belarus can again turn into a territory from which missiles, ballistic missiles, including cruise missiles, will be launched over ukraine, and russian planes will take off from belarusian military airfields, and will belarus be a legitimate target for air strikes in this case? forces of ukraine? well, look. if some missiles start flying in our direction from belarus, or planes take off that will attack our territory, of course, we are ready to repulse their air attack, our forces already mean the main intelligence agency, so the security services of ukraine, they have already proven and proved to the whole world that they can conduct unique special operations,

impress, as well as oil refineries. factories, as well as objects of their infrastructure, including aviation. of course, if there is a threat to our territory, we will do everything necessary to secure our airspace and repel enemy attacks. we have to understand that aviation, as a kind of troops, air forces, this is an extremely highly mobile kind that can quickly move over a long distance, belarus once already during the povnomash. invasion allowed us to use their territory to attack the territory of ukraine, so of course we must be ready for anything and strike at the enemy's air force at any moment. during the last month, mr. major, we have been watching how the russian occupiers began to use aerial bombs against the cities, the eastern cities, and in particular kharkiv, for the first time since the full moon.

headquarters invasion, they resumed strikes with these aerial bombs on kharkov, what does this mean, in what way can my ukraine protect the city of millionaires from these aerial bombs? well , it does not mean anything other than terror, so the civilian population, because in reality the course of events on the movement of the front line, let's say, it does not affect in any way, of course, that russia wants to destabilize the socio-political. installation inside our country, to intimidate the population, to force negotiations on certain conditions, of course, that russia has a lot such weapons, unfortunately, after the collapse of the soviet union , there were a lot of high-explosive aerial bombs left in them, of various sizes, such as fap 250, 500, 1500, there are even talks about fap-3000, which they plan to use on our

civilians. cities, but for example, for march , only the use of modernized versions of kabs, whether high-explosive, yes, these bombs, it was more than 3,000, this is for march alone, we understand what a colossal number this is, and of course, the enemy with such strikes is trying to cheapen his blows on ours territory, b- to exhaust our air defense system so that we could not effectively repel air missiles. enemy strikes, we remember how at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, unfortunately, the russian aircraft circled over peaceful cities, including my native chernihiv, bombers inflicted quite powerful blows on them, and of course we have to use intelligently and unconventionally those western anti-aircraft systems, so that hundreds or dozens of bombs, which can fly, do not fall on the heads of ukrainians from russian tactical means. aviation

another problem that exists, which general budanov talked about, is that russia has been stockpiling kalibr cruise missiles for a long time, which it can use to launch strikes against ukraine. nataliya gumenyuk, spokeswoman for the southern defense forces, told veteri espresso that there is a high missile threat from the russian black sea fleet, as nine caliber bows are currently in the black sea, although they are brought to the base in russian, let's hear what nataliya gumenyuk said. they are ready, equipped, them the equipment together reaches more than 50 caliber missiles, they can be put on combat duty for several hours, two or three hours are enough for them to arrive at the launch points, that is, the level.