near the eastern part of the town, the chasiva kept in action, then if everything is so good with us, well, i can’t understand then, then why everything is so bad with us, the second point, there is a brigade that is already rotating, and of course there is, well 110, for example, languished in avdiivka for several years without a pass, with no way out, and it was torn to shreds there in... they are now on rotation, of course, and what was left there, don't you remember how many people were left in units, you and i have said this more than once, the staffing needs to be better, if shmyhal has people, but no weapons, then i will tell you a few units where there are no people, but there are weapons, well, everyone has kalash, the infantry is in the trenches, we need shells, the shells are moving, so there are shells . shells are going, there are soldiers, kalash, i

think there are also no problems, so what is the problem then, why in the units the personnel composition wants to be super much better, because it is very, very bad there, and you know such things, this like relax, don't worry, instead of mobilizing citizens' consciousness about fight or die threats, they begin to relax again, because it will be possible, it is not popular, they continue to play politics and ratings. and one should not play in politics and ratings, but think for the survival of the nation, for the state, and it is precisely in this context that i now understand why the law on mobilization, even if it is voted on in april, i just want shmyhal came out and honestly said, my brother, he said so and so, people, reinforcements will be in october, because they will say, alapin, what are you saying, that the reinforcements will be in october, well, as i say, if they vote in april, zelensky will sign in may, there are 60... days

for it all to unravel, there are offices, there are conscripts, and so on , yes, that is a certain amount of time will pass, then they will start recruiting people, and then they will have to be sent to palivon for three months, well , add that, and all together it will turn out that there will be reinforcements in october, so i do not understand shmyhal's position, although in principle , and what do i expect, what is the difference, you know what what is the difference, what is the surname of prime minister zelenskyi, well, it doesn't matter to me, zelenskyi said... that there is no need for 5,000 at the conference, that he does not see the expediency, because he was not motivated, the president said, well, everyone went to repeat as one , well, what are the problems, they don’t have any problems, the only problems are for some reason with the rotation of the personnel, i know, well, i won’t name the brigades now, which have been sitting and lying there without waking for more than a year, well , you understand, they are reinforced with armor and so on , but they don't rotate, it's not rotation, it's you look at the reports of any... there

are analysts who say that such and such a brigade is working in such and such a direction, and see how much these or other ee, let's say, storytellers, already tell about this brigade they have been talking about this direction for more than a year, so it has been without rotation for more than a year, well, everything is great, and there are many of them, so for me this is the savagery of not settling the issue of mobilization - it is a very serious problem, and i will tell you, you know, what other risk is there in this of the bill, just one sentence at the end, if they... don't settle the concept of dembel, then this will be another failed mobilization only under the new law, i think something like this, i think so, so i draw such a conclusion, because people are demotivated if they do not know how long they are going, and even more demotivated those , who are already in the trenches for the third year. thank you, mr. major, for the conversation, it was a major of the armed forces of ukraine, a special agent ihor lapin. friends, we are live.

channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, please take part in our survey, today we ask you about whether you consider bolgakov a ukrainophobe, yes, no, your answer option, please write in the comments if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if do you consider bulgakov a ukrainophobe (0800-211-381), no 0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, oleg rybachuk, former head of the center for joint actions, will be in touch with us deputy prime minister for european integration and former head of yushchenko's presidential administration. mr. oleg, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. congratulations. well, first of all, let's talk about the results of the meeting of the ukraine-nato council, the main issue is the fpo system. for ukraine and

nato member states agreed that they should redouble their efforts to find air defense equipment, artillery and ammunition for ukraine. this was announced by the secretary of state of the united states of america, anthony blinken, for according to him, the partners of the north atlantic alliance will strengthen the defense potential of the ukrainian armed forces, at the same time, as dmytro kuleba says, at the april 4 meeting in brussels, germany initiated the search for available patriot air defense systems for kyiv. let's listen to what mr. kuleba said. germany, as the head of the air defense coalition, is now initiating an immediate analysis of all

the patriot battery systems and other air defense systems available not only in the allies, but in general in the world, and what can be done, what combinations can be built for... that these batteries be delivered to ukraine. mr. olezh, why does ukraine have to convince our western partners for so long that we need to close the sky, well , at least on cities with millions. well, i'm just recalling that when this nato summit in vilnius was held, the number of patriots who were there were completely in favor of solving the issue of ukraine. here are the members. nato simply delegated, moved its systems, and there were about a dozen of them there, this is to little vilnius, to the little sky that was above vilnius, so technically it is definitely possible, and and the fact that these are systems that, well, they

are idle, they are not used, well , it is clear that putin will not dare to disturb them in any way. the borders of nato, although there are many threats there, missiles fly there, just like in poland, which, by the way, has the patriot, but the poles do not use it, they would not give it to us, we would shoot down these missiles, they would not fly through poland, in fact the issue is technically being resolved, but the issue here is not about technical capabilities, the issue is that now it is very good that we have macron with... with on his initiative, we see the formation of two clubs in europe, a club, a club of brave or determined ones and a club of deeply worried and no less deeply frightened, and because of the fact that you only raise the question of why we are doing this,

ukraine needs weapons, whatever, and we rest on these things, which were very well described in the article on the international war there. which is just there, how, how to break russia's strategy, how to defeat russia, that's the point, there are 16 pages of such a large analytical article, very intelligent, that is, i read it, i understood that in fact, they know everything correctly, you know, like the doctor who is there, one doctor makes an x-ray, the other reads it, so they made this x-ray very well, and everything is visible there, it can be seen that russia every time forces... the world to discuss in an information shell created with russia itself, this information shell says that russia cannot be defeated, russia, as putin says, has never been defeated by anyone, a complete lie, a nuclear country, well and and and and and everything else, and that instead of to

spend so much effort is simply necessary reach a compromise and then go back to business as usual, and precisely because of the fact that they, they do not have unity, some of the countries that are now joining the club of the brave and determined understand this, and i see that our future , or our most reliable allies right there, and very simply not such extraordinary initiatives, you talked about them on your programs, because i look at them from time to time and now this and that is what is a certain novelty or consistency of policy? security, well, because he really just answered a few problems first, he said that russia, as an aggressor country, should simply be destroyed in this form. nobody dares to say that. he further stated his willingness and desire, or this strategy of his

global uncertainty, that he should not set limits for himself. russia does not impose any restrictions on itself. i'm listening to blinken, who went to...macron and brinkin saying that no, no, no, we can't, because we can't have a direct confrontation with russia, it makes me a little bit mad because you're coming horde. which you say that no, no, no, you and i will not face each other when a horde is coming at you, you don’t want to face each other, what are you doing, you retreat, well, this is really happening now, putin feels it very well, but when blinkin announced that , that and scholz, by the way, too, that you cannot make similar decisions, you have to make it in the nato format and by consensus, then macron is very, for me, this was an impressive answer, then it is convincing, he says that i do not need the support of nato , and you have mine. here in the story lapin talked about this foreign legion, and they are fighting there too

africa, by the way, in africa, from africa the french, including the wagnerites, were driven away by putin, those countries where france always had a historical influence, the wagderites went there, there are issues of rich resources, everything else, but geopolitically, putin and the wagnerites are enough yes, well, they humiliated france, maybe it's to everything else, one more. a factor why macron already just took the position he took among other factors, but the last thing macron says is that we are ready, and when he was threatened with nuclear weapons there, he calmly said everything, we are also a nuclear power, and pay attention, we do not know the conversation, i am very interested when our media comment on the conversation between shuigu and the minister of defense of france, referring to the press statement of the russians, the russians for... always lie about the essence of the conversation, as far as i can remember, we i was only there when i was relatively new to prime minister

yushchenko, and we knew it, we were told that as soon as you hold a meeting, immediately issue your communique, because the russians will lie and you will have to make excuses for a long time, so when it was held here such communication is simply what macron said about the fact that he has... powers, these are not random words, and he has done a tremendous job, he has consulted with his political forces, and now other bold countries are starting to approach macron, there is norway, i think the baltics will be there, countries , other scandinavian ones, that club will form there, which was around us, a kind of nucleus, because when they talk about the secretary general, they talk about nato, well, yes, we understand that there will be fito, there will be scholz in nato. will orbán be there, and if individual countries, such as france, declare

about his position, we don't know what defense minister shoigu said, he could have simply warned shoigu that they have very serious intentions, and what we feel is actually a signal that if there is a threat of a breakthrough, and now well and our president and many people say that there is a threat that the front may break through, then... it is to prevent russia from simply washing away, like the kakhovskaya dam, washing away ukrainian defenses and seizing the country, and this is very it is important, and here i again agree with lapin, well, very strange for me situation, why do we not formally congratulate and make an official appeal to the countries, so as not to think that they will break through there, they will not break through, they will vote in the congress, they will not vote, by the way, it is very important about the congress, if even ideally they would vote for this package

60 billion, it is important to understand that by the end of the year, there will be 5, a maximum of 7 billion dollars for the defense of ukraine, these are not the wrong funds at all, all other funds will go somewhere from next year, and most of them will go to replenish pentagon spending, and one last remark, the initiative of the french, they say that they have made a decision that all this from... which they remove from the balance sheet, they will not store it somewhere or dispose of it there, but they will simply transfer it to ukraine immediately. why don't americans do this? this does not require a decision of congress, these bradleys that we ultimately need, the 16th f-16, the aprams tanks, they have thousands of them in warehouses, why not just hand them over? well, and you know what, actually, when we're being counted on these billions that shock the american voters, actually... instead of showing zero value bradley, who is 40 years old there, they are calculating

for the accounting department of the pentagon, the cost of a new modern armored personnel carrier, which costs many times more there, that is, there are so many questions about all this, but i saw this, well, perspective for myself, because you have to cling to something in analysis, you can't just be some kind of unreasonable optimist, and and and we understand that they want to intimidate us, that... a massive attack, which we were warned about, that everything is lost, there will be no support, we are with you every day we discuss there what will happen in the congress, what will happen here the president says that the counter-national introduction, we are discussing there rotation, non -rotation, mobilization, and i simply see that many ukrainians are simply exhausted and numb, they do not understand what they can rationally complain about, there will be no invitation to washington to join nato, well, what will happen and it is clear to me that in fact now our future, our chance is a real integration into the club of brave

european members of nato, but for this, by the way, by the way, you mentioned this very one... which should take place on july 9-11 jubilee summit 75th, but can we consider what appears in the foreign press as also the influence of russian ipson, including on the western western audience, because the italian republic wrote that the relinquishment of the occupied territories in exchange for security, the possibility of such an agreement to end the war in ukraine is being discussed in nato in the event of donald trump's victory. in the elections in the united states of america, according to the information of the italian publication, ukraine may be offered immediate accession to nato if it cedes russia, crimea and all occupied territories for two years. how can such a story be discussed at all, given that the world is quite picky

about this redistribution, about the stolen and ... i think that most countries do not want such a precedent, because what russia will start if they give of russia into the stolen territory, then it will continue between, between china, yes, then between india and pakistan, that is , there will be dozens, maybe even hundreds of such conflicts on the planet, that is, whether such a scenario is possible, as the republic writes about , considering at risk for the entire planet, well, we've heard that. the scenario is again nothing new, about it from time to time similar waves of information were launched, and here i really like such ones, you know, when they ask, it may or may not be, this is a 50/50 forecast, it may or may not be, that is, the fact that such a scenario is being talked about somewhere, i believe that there are some analytical

centers, there are and the russians are quite skillfully amplifying it, somewhere it can have fun, and that in the west. a lot of people who, well, who are agents of russia's influence, well, it's also from the soviets it is known that russia, the soviet union , always fed influential foreign correspondents, entire editorial offices, formed these media communities, took them to all kinds of white nights in st. petersburg and so on. i met such people in spain, for example, where there are a lot of pro-russian leftists, so this is also understandable, but it is not at all... the challenges facing the western world, because in fact, this is again this is what the world war institute wrote about, this is a discussion in the world that russia has created for itself , this is such a virtual world, and that's it in the world, this is possible, but in the real world , russia has no chance of defeating a real

coalition, well, it’s just that the total gross product there is somewhere... there are 60 or so trillions of the countries of the western coalition, and in russia there are two two with hooks, well, you can’t there is no way to win economically, i am already silent about military things, so in the real world, russia will lose one hundred percent, what is it counting on and what is it doing, well, first of all, it is counting on the americans to leave, and putin was very planning and very much hoping that it would just be a domino effect in the european union that europeans will digest. and military support will simply fall and ukraine will simply sink, it turned out not at all like that, the delay and indecisiveness of the behavior of the united states greatly mobilized europe, mobilized macron in different ways, what macron did, he simply created a completely unexpected problem for putin, because macron says

that if there are no red lines in russia, then there should be no red lines in us either. they are lines, why are they? and here we see the statements of blinken and everything else, they do not stand up to criticism, because when you hear scholz's statements there that he will not have a foot in ukraine, the statements of the american president that nato soldiers or american soldiers will not have a foot, well, never say never, and then how are you going to defend western values, which means you don't want to to prepare for a direct confrontation, if nato and american troops are already there, for example, in poland, they have a small border, but they have... the border there with russia, they have already approached there, this is generally some kind of, well, very illogical position, and macron it's good felt, and he took this niche, the only possible leadership. and he will not get out of it, because if he removed scholz, which we do not expect from germany, because we understand that you are afraid, well, what european politician

would want to be proud of the fact that he belongs to the club of cowards, and this white a challenge to the house and and those, well, we don’t talk about the orbans with sfitsami, they are understandable people, but for european politicians, especially now against the background of the parliamentary elections and the processes that are taking place, it is now... and at the same time , public public support that in in the united states, which france also has, it is quite high, but here again , ukraine needs to do a lot here, i really, i ’ll be honest, i really don’t like the trend that we fill the vacancies of ambassadors with simply dismissed officials, i’m already there i hear that there is another wave of dismissed advisers, god knows who from the bank, and each of them sees himself... on the diplomatic field, well, with such a diplomatic front, we have serious problems, not to mention the need for internal changes in internal reforms, if reform, by the way

venedikto, they already sent an ambassador to switzerland, or rather to switzerland, and now they are predicting that kostya, the current prosecutor general, will go to norway, because danilov, who they did not want to see there, did not get to norway, and danilov is being sent as an ambassador to moldova, well that to that, to all this. personnel katavasi, which is now diplomatic, but i, mr. oleg, wanted to ask you about what lavrov, putin's ally, said during the round table with diplomats, he said that zelensky's peace formula is the ultimate, and he, on his opinion, china has so far proposed the clearest and most reasonable settlement plan around ukraine, and russia... is ready to discuss ukraine's security guarantees only if the dialogue continues on equal terms, let's listen to what lavrov said, how he

said it. this formula does not include any compromises, any alternatives, it completely ignores those made with the best motives, initiative proposals that at one time sounded in the people's republic of china from the south. some cosmetic refinements are possible, but the point is zelensky's formula as an ultimatum remains unchanged. he says that this dialogue is possible on equal terms, on equal terms with whom? again, they lead us into their world. he, they have their own matrix, they live in that matrix, and they try to convince us that in fact the matrix is ​​the real world, that is what is happening, well

, it is known that the defense of ukrainians is perceived as aggression, that there the western world's support of ukraine's right to independence is perceived as a threat to russia and everything else and... well, here's the situation, here's the formula with china, remember i thought the cuckoo praised the rooster, here, first of all, the first phrase, i remember well that in the chinese peace plan the first point was the recognition of the borders and sovereignty of the state, that is, if this is perceived by russia, then you can talk further, but they, they never reveal this formula, they talk about desire. and shaigu there told the french minister of defense that you better not go to ukraine, there is no need to do this, and demonstrated that they are ready for the istanbul

agreements, that is, they are working on their the global south, they work for their audience, but they keep pulling us into their matrix, and in that matrix they manipulate whatever things they want, the challenge here for the world is... what, well, what if the aggressor in the 21st century, after the second world war, for the first time, manages to get away with impunity without any, well , like hitler, how hitler attacked poland, blaming the fact that poland was the first to attack germany, there is nothing new here, 20% of the territory approximately, if there will be no more, and they want it, so that the world recognizes it, i do i understand that... that the condition of their willingness to talk there is not only that they want to take the territory, but they will remind the previous demands, ukraine must

be... be de-nazified, disarmed, and then, let's just remember the last meetings there of these demonized orthodox , led by kirill, who clearly said that all of ukraine should be in the russian sphere, that is , can the world really go to such an extent that ukrainians are here, what are ukrainians doing here, what are ukrainians talking about here, what international prago, what is the world order, and even if trump becomes the president, as he is in this world, and here... there is ambition, you already remember how in a couple of seconds he destroyed 200 wagnerites there with just rockets and continued to react very harshly when he had to show his temper, as in this world, he will be able to fulfill the role of the president of the largest country and he really wants to be feared and respected there, if the world order simply collapses, because north korea, but now we are anxiously watching that iran will be there, there will be a massive attack on on israel or not, because... there is

the threat that the middle east will break out, now we see from time to time the statements of the serbs there in the balkans, because it is all being said that putin will create islands of instability for the democratic world, he is sowing chaos, and this chaos must be answered, if yes, thank you thank you mr. olezh, it was oleg rybachuk, former head of yushchenko's presidential office and former deputy prime minister of ukraine. friends, we are working live on the tv channel. in touch with our colleague kateryna galko, another trial was held today intelligence officer roman chervinskyi, a former intelligence officer, and today they had to decide whether to extend the former intelligence officer's term of detention, kateryna is with us now live, kateryna, i congratulate you, please tell me the details of the proceedings and what decision the judges reached during today's session. i congratulate

sergey, i congratulate the viewers of the espres tv channel. so , today , the shevchenkiv district court of the capital considered the petition to extend the term of detention of romano chervinskyi. the hearing began at 10 a.m. and accordingly, it lasted about 10 hours. today we watched a rather dynamic trial, a dynamic session, a vivid polemic between the lawyers and the prosecutor, the lawyers and the judge. there was also plenty of time to hear roman himself. i propose to hear it, and we have been hearing it for a year now , and not a single judge in the appeal has stopped confirming the validity of the suspicion, it is not substantiated, there is no evidence, because i am sitting here , the european court says that this is the most important thing in order to keep a person, so

in general, this . lawyers also stated several motions, mostly most of them were rejected, however, roman chervinsky was allowed to sit between his lawyers, actually the lawyers, the defense side note that the suspicion is not sufficiently substantiated, which they talk about at almost every meeting, they also had questions up to the very the petition to extend the term of detention, which was considered today, because the prosecutor first submitted it, then took it away, then submitted it again, which, according to the lawyers , is not lawful and the defense filed a statement with the law enforcement authorities against the prosecutor, after all, they say he committed a crime, and let's hear more about it in the comments. today's petition, which was submitted again, it was submitted purely for technical reasons, without legal grounds, but at

the very least it cannot be considered, and at the most considering this petition in an illegal way is also the commission of a crime. so, in general, today the court decided to keep roman chervinskyi in custody for 15 days instead of the 16 invited, and let's also hear the reaction to this decision. adoption of today's decision. extension of the term of detention under detention for only 15 days is a kind of internal compromise of the investigating judge and the internal compromise of the investigating judge between the understanding of how unreasonable the prosecutor's request for continued detention is and the pressure of the executive power on the judicial power. therefore, the next meetings should already be held in kirovohrad. i

must conclude with this. so that's all the information for now serhii.