here without illusions, what is called, but what in this case inspires us with a certain optimism about joint some significant industrial projects with american companies, it is , oddly enough, politics, and the political component in the arms business, as you well know, is sometimes more important, or at least very important, on the same level, perhaps, as commercially. component, therefore, taking into account the geopolitical distribution of forces and the changes taking place in the world, the political component can help us a little in the aspect of joint projects with powerful foreign partners, including the united states. then the question arises, if there will be a change in the states,

the president is in the election, will this inertia, or this concession, progress towards cooperation with ukraine, even on the scale that exists today , be preserved? the fact that, well , ukraine is now extremely important for american defense companies, it can offer many joint projects, the statement was made, we can see the results now that they are kind of without... joint ventures and so on, but the change power in the united states will affect these trends that began under the current president? i would not like to contrast one administration with another, but what i can emphasize is that, as you rightly said, under the current administration there is a certain trend, but at the same time there is also inhibition and not only that. in the aspect that depends, for example,

on the congress, yes, and in other aspects as well, this is the transfer of technologies, this is also the special representative, adviser, prime minister strategist, these are other issues, and i do not think that they strongly depend on the will of this or that particular president, america still has a fairly stable political system, and... you know, i don't want to draw such unequivocal conclusions, including about this hint, which i will say now, we got javelins under trump, yes the first we got the offensive weapons from during the trump administration, and to say that if there is a change, if there is a new president in the united states and it is trump, then it does not necessarily... it will have a negative

impact, of course there are great risks, we all understand, there is a human factor in this specific person, the unpredictability is certain, but with the right diplomatic work, and i think that we have a good chance with the new administration, based on the fact that america is still a system, and we are already a certain element, and i do not want there it is different. but in a sense we are an element of the national security of the united states in that we are at war actually with one of the key, one of the key threats to the united states. mr. pavle, what are you doing with american defense companies? you say about the prospects of working with ukraine, start, don't delay, wait for what. what advice do you give them, how do they

react to it, this is a good question in the sense that it is good that we have a broadcast in ukrainian, in fact, we all already know somewhere, we have taken a bite out of things, and we are working to attract, to contact, to establish, we find arguments, how to say, but practical ones, yes for american companies, and these are primarily emphasis on potential foreign markets, on the fact that we have a colossal one, not with us, but with the armed forces , colossal experience in the use of weapons , including western ones, and a technological component in the sense that we have an intellectual resource, because it is impossible to say that we have some advanced technologies, unfortunately, but the intellectual component is there.

certain moments there are related to the cheapening of weapons and competition there potentially with china in foreign markets and so on, that's all. we argue, at the same time, well, we perfectly understand that purely as an investment project , we cannot approach here, but for ukraine it is a big the economic issue, i.e. the military industry will, i hope, still be a fairly significant element of our economic growth over time, and plus, i emphasize once again, the political component, it is important, ukraine needs allies such as the united states. as well as the european ones, of course, and the arms market and the arms industry is one of the elements of close cooperation, mr. pavle, thank you very much for the diplomatic conversation related to

the prospect of cooperation with the united states, i hope that in our next meetings we we will talk in more detail about those projects that will already appear in that period of time, thank you for your... comments, for your correct accents, and i will remind our viewers that it was pavlo verkhniatskyi, director and managing partner of the ukrainian company kosa, co-coordinator of the security and aerospace working group, american-ukrainian business council. and then we will talk about sweden's experience in creating a powerful defense and industrial complex and what from that experience can be used in ukraine and in sweden itself relate to the prospects of cooperation with ukraine specifically in the defense-industrial sphere, but we will talk about this after the advertising and information block. champions league quarter-finals only for maygo, real madrid, man city and psg. these matches

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voytenko, the head and founder of wireless p2p technology, a company in sweden, but it was founded by ukrainians, a company produces high-tech products that already. is used both in sweden itself and in nato countries. mr. yuri, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. thank you very much, i congratulate you. i would like to make such a small retrospective, because shvei. transferred to us a significant amount of technological weapons, there and howitzers, archers, bmp cv-90, a significant number of anti-tank weapons, but we want to do something jointly, and about two months ago , it seems, at a conference in sweden, the president of ukraine spoke about the fact that joint production with sweden is a priority for us, and i am sure, says zelensky, that a day will come when you and i will be able to see the opening. of the first joint production - the head of state said then, at what point

are we now, in accordance with this goal, how does the defense industry in sweden in general now perceive these work prospects with ukraine? well, it's a complex issue, generally perceived quite positively and there are quite specific examples where the swedish companies, in particular the same saab or bai... sistem, in principle, they have already made the final decision for themselves, that yes, they cooperate, this, i i just don't know who the counterparty is in ukraine, probably like ukrabaronprom, or one of the big players, but in principle there are already positive signals of such cooperation, that is , it has started, by the way, you are talking about who the counterparties are, i am talking to representatives our analytical structure with representatives of the american side, they also ask: we sometimes do not know who our counterparty is

in solving certain projects, so this is such an achilles' heel, i hope first of all for the ukrainian side, which should get rid of it, but is the market interesting at all of ukraine for sweden, because sweden is self-sufficient, and to actually talk about the need to expand sales markets there at the expense of ukraine, it looks somehow... well, sometimes it is not entirely appropriate in view of those capacities, those projects that implemented by swedish companies? well, i absolutely agree, in principle, sweden is one of the largest exporters of arms in the world, i don't know what level there is, it ranks fifth or sixth in the world in terms of the volume of arms exports, it is an almost 100% export-oriented military-industrial complex , although the actual order is also now there... but it has doubled there or something, but here is the question

, it is necessary to understand that ukraine itself can provide the swedes, so where is the point of synergy, for what or cooperation, is not just a market the swedes have produced something and conditionally sold it to ukraine, it must be understood in the context of cooperation that the ukrainian side has something so interesting for swedish companies. to jointly produce some high-tech product, we can talk about it, there are certain things, then the question arises, what is so interesting in ukraine that can be interesting for sweden, because you, i don't know, have been trying and communicating with our by defense enterprises, so what is interesting in ukraine for sweden, well, actually my case may not be like that... interesting, although it is very like that a niche story, a very niche product, it

is very interesting now, from the ukrainian side, sweden is considering such an interesting aspect, this is real experience, or feedback, as it is fashionable to say, from the battlefield, because the huge amount of weapons that were manufactured in the countries nato, conditionally, now not only in sweden, in the united states, in yuk, anywhere, it was discovered. that there are questions, there are questions about tactics, there are questions about performance characteristics, there are questions about the moral obsolescence of certain types of weapons, not all of them, of course, but there are such questions, that is why this feedback, which goes directly into the mode in real time from the battlefield, this is the most valuable thing that ukraine can give swedish companies now, and believe me, they understand it quite well, that is, we are talking about the fact that the use of archer howitzers, 90 anti-tank weapons is now being carefully studied by the swedes, so that the next iterations of these

weapons to make them even more technologically advanced , taking into account the challenges they saw on the battlefield. well, a small example, enlau, after certain problems with batteries, batteries, yes, batteries that are included in the kit, certain processes began, and i know there that... there are some projects to upgrade these enlau batteries because they just, well, even if they hit their shelf life, they just didn't last those. which were included in them, here is a specific example, as soon as the feedback came in and the swedes began to work on, began to work on this problem. and what should ukraine actually do in order to interest sweden in such a systemic partnership up to the exit of joint ventures, to offer contracts, to offer some kind of improved financial

conditions there, which is systematically lacking, which, well, no gives synergy effect so far at the level we expect? well, first of all, of course, the planning horizon, because all swedish companies, the same saap, or any, they work on extremely long horizons, the same nlau is sure to have been developed there for five years or more, and under there is a certain procedure, certain contracts with the fmv or directly there with some customer, by the way, it is good that in ukraine there is finally an analog of the fmv procurement of the nspa youth purchaser, this is very well perceived extremely positively, because there is a specific algorithm, how to submit a commercial offer, how to receive an invitation to a tender, how to cooperate with state institutions in ukraine, here is the next question without any doubt and what is a certain problem for swedish

companies specifically in cooperation with ukraine, this is m ... eh- is what is called plm, or product life cycle management, i.e. not just put a bunch of enlaves or a bunch of some equipment, but also personnel training, support for this product, er, long-term support for this equipment product, updates, a lot of software support, which changes every day, it must be updated, and... well, in principle, this is a well-established practice here, but i am not sure that there is something similar in ukraine, because, for example, you can put a modern radar over it, but then don't update the database of waveforms and he simply won't see what in principle he should see, purely based on physical characteristics, so this synergy, this life

cycle management, it also has to somehow be implemented in... this cooperation with ukrainian companies, and finally, i will ask, it seems three times different officials are in favor during the years of the war, they came to sweden, talked about global projects, about global wishes, what happened after the conclusion of these visits, that is, were there any real continuations there, because i am afraid that this, that in fact this habit of visits will still fall on the basis of such good real system... does it succeed today? well , let's put it this way, it's not a binary logic, something somewhere in the middle, but yes, of course, there were visits, there were very loud slogans there, all this is wonderful, certain processes, as i said at the beginning, have begun, but the potential of the swedish

the industry is so big that it could be better, actually. well, mr. yuriy, i don’t want to end the conversation on this, i want to do better, what positive things are there now in the work with sweden, which really help ukraine on the battlefield, a few points, okay, definitely, well, there are specific contracts that are being executed and deliveries are planned several years in advance, therefore, in certain niches, in principle, everything is going normally, the production is developed, it has, in principle, already reached certain ones. parameters by quantities, by dates, by shipments, there are certain channels like this is being done, therefore the supply, therefore, in principle, this and that is normal, just the potential is so great that it would be possible to actually overwhelm with these weapons, if you prepare in advance, but in principle, this process is also going normally, let’s say so, and given that,

like what kind of products it is, what kind of nomenclature, then everything is fine there, everything, but maybe a little. to open, now it seems that a big meeting is going to be held between the swedish defense industry association and a number of ukrainian defense companies, again there to exchange experience, what kind of event it will be, what can be in the result after such an exchange of views at the current stage of hostilities with the russian federation? well, i'm saying it's an extremely interesting experience, how things change. modern by the chaff, because many systems that are already, shall we say, morally obsolete , are in service, they must be removed, something should be put in place of them, and for this it is necessary to understand what actually... are modern threats and what, in principle, tactics of application, it is especially interesting in the context of attacks on infrastructure, and this is extraordinary, this is a unique experience,

there is no one in the world with such experience, this is what can ukraine give in the context of all the visits, exchange of experiences there and so on. sweden, for its part, will adjust its industrial capabilities to meet the needs of the modern battlefield, or the military in order to... let's say, address these threats, correctly, and mr. yuri, here is a final question for you, already based on your experience of perception of events on the front line, we once did a program with you last year where you talked about the fact that fpv drones will be decisive there on the battlefield, this prediction came true, but now what is your next attempt to look beyond the horizon to see what exactly will change on the front line. standard weapons there, well, for the next 3-6 months, what should be prepared for in certain segments of the use of weapons samples or tactics? well, thin ice, if in such broad

strokes, then new ranges of purity, definitely, the wider, the better, non-kinetic means of influence, electromagnetic and the like, well, that's for sure. all types of intelligence that only exist, radio-electronic, space, there any, i.e. and this is all unification into a single contour, so to speak, i.e. from detection to defeat in various ways kinetic, non-kinetic and so on, this is the perspective of the next six months of the year, you see the movement of the ukrainian side, specifically ukrainian developers, in this direction, well, definitely , we will constantly receive from... with ukrainian companies, this is, well, modern experience, we absolutely adequately analyze the current state of the electromagnetic spectrum, which is

absolutely unique in the world, i will say this, there are such anomalies, phenomena that have never been it was, but now they are, so it should also be addressed adequately, from the point of view of equipment technical characteristics, by the way, you asked about fp drones, well there is already an obvious problem, because it is all built on civilians. which do not in any way meet the requirements that exist now, that is, there is simply not enough frequency resource for their effective use, mr. yuri, thank you for the inclusion, i hope that in peacetime we will talk in more detail about what means were used in the war, technological things that affected the enemy, so far about it's silent, thanks for the inclusion, let me remind you that it was yuriy voytenko, the founder and head of the swedish company wireless p2p technology. which has been working in sweden for a long time and supplies technological products for nato countries and has close contacts with ukraine. if

we sum up, we can say that there are essential prerequisites for the ukrainian army to become stronger due to cooperation with foreign companies, not all companies, there european and american , have the same strategies and views on cooperation with... the country, to a large extent it depends on their policy, but sometimes there are achelous fives on the example of the ukrainian side, when we talk about a certain bureaucracy, labyrinths in creating such active, working connections with foreign companies, we hope , that the ukrainian side will get rid of these defects as soon as possible and we will have much more effective results of creating new types of weapons together with american and european defense companies, leave it. on the spresso channel, there will be a lot of interesting things to come.

we are looking for 15-year-old kamila neronova from the kharkiv region. i know that the girl lived in the urban-type village of kozacha lopan on the border with russia. at the beginning of the war, this settlement was occupied, but... in september 22nd , it was liberated, and about six months later , at the end of february 23rd, information appeared about kamila's disappearance. it is not known where the girl may be now. perhaps she was taken to the occupied territory, or perhaps to russia. therefore, it is very important to know even the smallest details about the disappearance of a child. attention to the photo. kamila neronova looks 15 years she has dark hair and brown eyes. if anyone has seen the girl or knows where she may be, please call the magnolia children's helpline immediately on the short number 11630. calls from

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news times on the espresso tv channel. kateryna shiropoyas works in the studio. another enemy. attack. at night, the enemy launched attack drones and cruise missiles over ukraine. the air alert sounded in all regions, and ukrainian air defense forces shot down 28 shaheds and three cruise missiles. as a result of the rocket hitting zaporizhzhia , industrial enterprises were destroyed. this was announced by the head of the region, ivan fedorov. in the makarivskyi district of kyiv region , shrapnel fragments and rockets damaged the premises of one of the private houses.