tactical group numbering about 15 people, it is expected that in april the group will be brought to a state of full combat readiness for operational introduction into the ukrainian theater of war, and the main thing that russian propagandists say about this is, of course, that they will strike somewhere, - first , of course, they threaten to kill literally all these french people, they shout about it, sometimes they even get excited, you know. that they forget that belarus is somehow separate there, and begin to simply tell what is needed there to attack from the side in belarus again if a military contingent takes part in a military conflict under the national flag, but the vietnamese could not reach the united states, but we can reach france, so it means direct intervention. in fact, the country, and

again i say that he knows nothing, i hope that it will not come to this, but they want to odessa, to our russian odessa, no, they want to be located along the border with belarus, and apparently by the same , this in turn will free up somewhere around 120-50 thousand ukrainian servicemen are stationed, they believe that it is a problem for us to explode, and i... i understand, they will decide that if we want to enter from the territory of belarus, then seeing the french, we will tell them that, over a cup of coffee and a baguette, here what do they expect from us, oh-oh-oh, the french are there, oh-oh-oh-oh, well, you know, this is basically some kind of intensification of the cries that the russians will strike nato countries, literally, that is they will hit the tailcoat. literally, and another

thought that they now began to say that it is necessary and time to hit some facilities, factories, and some other countries, well , the czech republic, romania, somewhere else, well, for example , the same solovyov talked about the czech republic in that same broadcast. in addition, we will also destroy them at their base locations, in exactly the same way, as i do not understand, for example,

in this context, it does not look like a random flying drone or missiles, not a drone, a missile, but just such and such an attempt, you know, to feel this a little, but how is it, and will they react, moreover, literally about the same thing that's what putin already said, and it's obvious, immediately his statement drew a whole shower there. funny statements of propagandists, but i think that the key thing here is exactly what putin said, he hid behind the military and mumbled about the destruction of the airfields of nato countries. let's see also. fighter pilots are naturally worried about whether they will be allowed to destroy the f-16 before takeoff, if they deliver the f-16, it will not change the situation on the battlefield. and we will destroy. their planes in the same way as we destroy their

tanks, armored vehicles and other equipment, of course if they are used from the airfields of third countries, they become a legitimate target for us, wherever they are, well , all these cries about strikes on countries directly already by nato, this, i repeat once again, is such a reaction, it's all just words of the french president, what do they think, can send some military contingent to ukraine, that is , this is what caused all this hysteria, which has been going on for a month, which just keeps getting worse and worse and finally led to the fact that just a few days ago putin has already started hinting at something like that, why did it turn out like that for them, somehow , you know, something too important that they just constantly talk about it, it may seem to us that macron is doing so much... it would be better if he gave us more weapons, but

you know, that's not exactly the case, weapons are of course good, but the readiness of nato countries to show that they are valid is also very important. but are ready to seriously oppose russia, and that this opposition will not be limited to just talking about the fact that ukraine must not lose, somehow prevent to expand the conflict, because all this is not serious, and even notice, not only macron himself is talking about something that we need to help somehow more, we should possibly even consider the deployment of troops, but we still need to look, for example, the statement of the prime minister. minister at the last press conference there together with blinkin, he was there, and he just also said calmly enough that, yes, ukraine has the right to strike at military facilities inside the territory of russia, it's normal, it's self-defense, and it's also, i would tell you such a new opinion, which, if it continues

to develop, means that it is possible to talk about the fact that it is necessary to help ukraine in these strikes, this is really very dangerous for russia, and you know, against the background of all this, it is very. .. it is interesting now to investigate exactly how russian propaganda is trying to attack the french, but they have such a propagandist, well, he is also the vice-speaker of the duma for a minute, someone fat, who, well, there are some great-great-grandsons of the same lion tal from that which we are told is the great russian culture, it has nothing to do with the war, and it's not all that clear-cut, so i'll tell you that when you look at... this descendant, you understand that everything is somehow very clear-cut, and that means he gave an interview to one of the main news channels of france, the leading bm channels, it was back on march 21, but it is still being discussed, moreover, you

even heard that solovyov is already mentioning it there, that's where staltsoy said, so let's see, what he said there, because i would say, it's really so epic set of words, let's. first, let's see what this fat man said to the french. you met with putin's confidante pyotr tolsty, deputy head of the state duma. he hates france and wishes us all the worst if we send soldiers to ukraine. we will secure ourselves exactly as much as vladimir putin decides. the president of our country. and when they say enough is enough. there will be a conference like in helsinki or yalta on security in europe. everything is simple. the french president refuses such a development. but let us be inspired his opinion you'll be mad at what he says. exactly. and when he says that there are no

red lines for him, and if we sneeze at his line, we don't give a damn about macron and everything he says, we will kill everyone. but france is also a nuclear power. of course, with two hundred missiles. we will kill all french soldiers who set foot on ukrainian soil, all of them. and it is also very interesting that, in fact, all the talk of the russians about the fact that they are somehow legitimately located on ukrainian territory, the french do not perceive them in principle either, and here is an interesting discussion precisely about this a french journalist with a thick head on this subject. it is very clearly visible there, you know, how a descendant, in fact, of the occupying power of ukraine, of this russian, imperial power, is trying to talk about the fact that he has the right to be the occupier here, you know,

this kind of imperialism is so very bright, and it it's just here, i don't know, you know it, it's very bright and you can clearly see how he reacts to it. we saw that you translated macron's speech here. for some reason, you pay more attention to our president than, for example, to the chancellor of germany. what exactly in macron's speech touched the russians, he is the first. we are very concerned by this statement because it brings us closer to the third world war, you are talking

about the third world war, not the french, yes, of course, but you want to send soldiers to odesa, a russian city? you say that odesa is russian, and the government says that donbas is russian, and most of ukraine is also russian. i was in ukraine as a journalist and i met.

will never exist either, well, maybe ukraine should have more borders than before the war, this is absolutely clear, it is clear, you even see, and being a fat man, he agrees in a certain way, but you know, also pay attention. what he, he did say that about how much they are worried about any statements that they will be put in a situation, you know, of such instability for certain that it will be unclear to them, and what other countries can do, and whether they will move what the russians imagine as red lines there, and a red line for russians is a war on the territory of russia after all, and this is the kind of red line that macron actually hinted about so much that... you can easily to move on, and that's why it's so disturbing, and let's see how the french ultimately

reacted to this propaganda, how they evaluated it, it's also important to simply understand how these words are actually perceived by all those imperial eyes, eyes, you know, genocidal, as adequate journalists in adequate countries. what was missing here was the decline of the west, atal's homosexuality, and lies. yes, he is a sprinter, as soon as the camera was turned on, everything possible poured out of him: threats, insults, swearing. obviously, our role is to give him the floor and say something against these theses, which is what i tried to do. he knows his french is good. and he shakes us, touches us. knows that his french past can affect us too, he is the voice of the kremlin for the french, and all this is clear

when he tries to tell us all these horrors. well, that is, as you can see, everyone has adequately understood, moreover, they understand that it is simply necessary to oppose it, because it is a lie and it is russian propaganda, which in fact is absolutely aggressive and has nothing to do with life, it is simply trying, somehow create another picture, and the main thing that she is trying to convey is fear, it is to frighten, it is to frighten someone somewhere there with something, well, in order for this not to happen, it is worth reminding, you know, a simple thing like that, just like that, you know, a speech video for those who really want to fight in ukraine, first of all, of course, for the russians, so that they remember this, this is how the bashkirs actually went to ukraine. in the desire to support putin here and how did they return home? here's

a hundred thus, all the dancers who try to invade ukraine will

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successes in the work of the ukrainian armed forces, and this is certainly positive, because such information is certainly helpful. improvement of our positions in the world, but there is also the reverse side of the coin, there are also statements from our partners that it is difficult for them to understand who exactly is in ukraine and which ministry is responsible for cooperation and promotion of certain projects with our partners, whether the ministry of defense, or ministry of strategy and industry, or ministry of digital. by the way, the american publication new york times recently wrote about these ukrainian labyrinths, and there by the way, yes... it was recognized that , in their opinion, the ukrainian defense market has significant prospects even now in the conditions of war, and in the future, because as an example, this year ukraine spent 1.3 billion dollars on the purchase of weapons and equipment, and this , by the way, 20 times more than in the 21st year. of course, the increase in our

defense spending may interest our defense partners, but in my opinion, this is still not enough. because we need to look for more active mechanisms to intensify cooperation with our potential and real business partners in the defense sector. and when by the way, we also hear statements about the creation of joint ventures with partners there, we see that in practice these processes do not yet catch up with these statements so quickly. so, can ukraine create competition, perhaps even with european and american companies, to speed things up. development of own defense industrial complex. we will discuss all these questions in our program war and weapons. my name is serhii sgurets, i am the director of an information and consulting company. defense express. and now the first one joins us the guest is oleksiy yezhak, an expert of the national institute of strategic studies. mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you, i am glad to see

kanalusa on the air. in return, i congratulate you. you and i have repeatedly talked off the air about the fact that the creation and development of our own defense industry is such an urgent and urgent need to ensure our defense. and they also talked about the fact that without zakordo. companies, it will be extremely difficult to ensure such a significant breakthrough, the question arises whether the current ukrainian defense market is already such that it is sufficiently tempting for american or european companies that want and can enter our markets, as you see it precisely in this context, well, first of all , i would like to say that labyrinths exist not only here, in general, this field of defense procurement, it is also considered by economists to be one of such problems, which, and this problem

must be solved globally, not only, well, not only by international efforts, but each individual country will be forced to solve this issue, since costs are increasing in the world, and never this the market was not clear especially if we talk about european. the market is absolutely fragmented, despite the single market of the european union, despite nato, but it still remains fragmented, and how everything is arranged there is very difficult, and if, if everything were simple there, there would be no need for this phenomenon in the world arms trade, as agents who push through certain contracts, without them , well, no way, in fact, maybe all this will go away when it is over... at the end of this war , the issues will be resolved and everything will become clear and easy, although, probably, there will always be, always,

where there are government interests, there will always be some restrictions that make the market difficult. as for how attractive we are, how attractive our ukrainian market is, ah, it is attractive, but i agree not only because... partners have calculated purchases of 1.4 billion, well, we will not argue, in principle, really, how much specifically is being bought, but there is really a big increase, but no matter how you count it, it is a big increase, it is not so huge that for international defense production grants to come to ukraine, this is not enough, it is not those funds, but on the other hand there are... additional mechanisms that force, which are very attractive for our partners, the first is the international aid that we receive, it is huge,

it, it is, well, 350 billion has already been allocated, that , that ukraine received, of course, not all of this, not all of its own military weapons, military equipment, but much of this money is already close to the front in ukraine. and companies that are closer to the front, where these weapons are actually used, repair, maintenance, all this, they also interested, and finally this effect, it, it is registered, it, it is important, the companies that are currently investing in the armament of ukraine, they, their capitalization is growing rapidly, this is especially visible in... where in europe it has been like this for two years stagnation is economic, there is no growth, but the capitalization of companies that invest in ukraine, that supply

weapons with the help or by other mechanisms, but those that send physical weapons to ukraine, their capitalization grows many times, all this together, of course, and creates such the driver, they are ready to come, there are already substantial ones, we hear that they are substantial. these statements about rhein-metal and about the alliance, the alliance that makes caesar and the leopards, all these european alliances are ready to come, there are those that are ready to implement closer to the front to produce ammunition, here, here here already we have to agree with those considerations , what needs to be done so that they understand how to work in ukraine, this is a big, big problem. but not only our problem, and by the way, you hid primarily european defense companies, german, french, which are entering the ukrainian market with projects, and what

about... american companies, are the americans slowing down these processes, are they not lagging behind the europeans, or on the contrary are the europeans now trying to outdo the americans in what they consider to be a promising arms market. i have the impression that american companies, they did not consider all these incentives that i spoke about too attractive, because they have different volumes, and they have other ones there. there are thoughts in the direction of india, in the direction of the countries of the persian gulf, australia, there and there maybe there is something else, well and the own, own american budget is what drives the american campaigns, the american budget is maybe half of all military spending in the world, well maybe not half, well there, well, almost maybe half, that is, for them it is the main thing, and therefore they weren't really invested in it. they weren't really

interested in this tool, except, i think, lokid, which still produces a lot of missiles that are used, for them it is an additional such market incentive, but now when we see that the europeans have started to use this mechanism, well the impression is that a certain competition has begun, but in the end the americans, well, they don't see it yet. i can’t say, they do it deliberately, they just gave it to the europeans , well, maybe yes, or they just don’t think that the money is so big and large-scale yet, i think this mechanism will work after there are successful cases of european large grants , in large european companies. and when we talk about successful cases, this is the completion of the construction of the rain metal plant, there are projects with the french, this is the beginning of the production of new...

samples at ukrainian enterprises, the purchase of these samples by the ukrainian ministry of defense, are these successful cases? well , we can see one successful case now about what our partners are writing about, as a ukrainian device, relatively speaking, a light-motor aircraft, equipped with technical vision, machine vision with the help of, well, this is a unit of artificial intelligence, and this thing can fly without radar to... not only to fly to oil refineries, to impress exactly that, to recognize exactly that part of this plant, which, which, which creates, well, which allows for it takes a long time to bring it out, well , unfortunately, such cases are so long, they are more for military technologies, for those companies that are engaged in technology, there is no big money here, there is a technological case, but there is no business case in fact, well, yes, yes. ..

this is a test of technologies, there really are several important, important international companies that have proven that their technology works, that it can be used not only in civilian life, but also on the front, it is very important from a technological point of view, but here are such large weapons cases , i think, after all this is primarily ammunition and production and missiles for, well, what is constantly spent on the front, a large order, if... certain significant funds will pass through a plant located in ukraine, with investments or ours, well, certainly with investments, because it already big cases, and when, when rainemetal will show everyone that locating plants in the baltic countries, locating a plant in ukraine, it actually not only gives new orders, government and western, but with greater capitalization, well, it

will spark a lot. who, despite the inertia, i think, after all, the main reason why there are no americans here yet with such ideas is inertia, they simply do not see this mechanism yet. mr. oleksii, thank you very much for the time you found for our viewers, for your explanations, we hope for further meetings on our air, i would like to remind the viewers that it was oleksii yezhak, an expert of the national institute of strategic studies, and now pavlo verkhniat is joining us. he is the director and managing partner of the ukrainian company kosa, co-coordinator of the working group on security and aerospace issues american-ukrainian business council. mr. pavle, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear the spresso channel on the air. good day. you probably heard a piece of conversation with oleksiy yezhak, who said that american companies are in no hurry to enter ukraine.