in the 24th year, we have a lot of elections in europe as well, but in order to ensure this, i understand that these funds are trying to be created. another very important issue, international, or bilateral, or rather, our state's relations, is a question of president macron, so macron is very active today about supporting ukraine, macron is very active about sending troops to ukraine, yes. and in general, in fact, he became a kind of pioneer in terms of certain initiatives, in particular helping ukraine, those initiatives that no one ever talked about, which other european and american politicians have often kept quiet about, so in your opinion, can it be organized or can we expect it, for example, this year or in the coming months? in general

, should we expect this help, or can this be considered a kind of political move by macron, which will not have any definite consequences in the future? i think it is too early to give an assessment, indeed, president macron has many ideas, we have seen initiatives in recent years, not all of them reach practical implementation, but it is very important that... such and such conversations began, in general raised to the level of discussion this issue, which in principle was not considered even a year ago, how is it, we will send our troops to ukraine, the question is different, in which, in of what quality to send, whether for combat operations, or for training, whether there is logistical help there or something else, this question is secondary or tertiary. if

a decision is made to provide military aid by the regular army, it will change the approach of this war in general, and it is good that it has begun, this discussion began, i say, it is still far from its real practical implementation, of course, including macaron , they use it for their internal promotion and... the middle of the country and as a leader , an application for leadership in europe, because now germany lost its leadership after merkel left, britain, if not so much in europe, because it left the eu, and it does not have these other interests, and here macron is still trying to take the leadership inside europe, including and with such statements, it is very telling that some countries reacted that they do not exclude such a development of events and... such help,

this kind of help for ukraine, but again, let's not be deceived, there will be no french soldiers in ukraine tomorrow, well , let's assume, let's pretend that macron still sends his troops to ukraine, let's say to odesa, or to the west of our country, or to the northern border of our country. now, if we are talking about this, will we need permission to... to deploy french troops on the territory of ukraine, it is very it is important, because in this case there may be a certain collision, relatively speaking, between the national legislation of france and international law, relatively speaking, because france is a member of the north atlantic alliance. there may be a conflict between international legislation, french legislation and ukrainian legislation, which, in principle, today...

does not allow the placement of bases on the territory of foreign bases on the territory of ukraine, every time we conducted training, we adopted a separate bill on joint training , to allow nato ships, for example, to enter the port of odessa. regarding nato, i asked admiral bauer, who is the head of the military, almost the same question. of the nato committee, what is the head of the nato military committee, he is the second person after sto, not even the second person, it is parallel. stoltenberg is a political leader, bauer is a military leader, an army leader who, in the event of hostilities, is responsible for all nato forces, for the military component of nato forces. at the meeting, when he was coming to kyiv, i asked him so... what will nato do in the event

if france sends troops, decides to send troops to ukraine, will it block, will it help? it will do it, i.e. nato will do it together with france and under the umbrella of nato, relatively speaking, and here it is necessary to add the proper thing that, after all, these are the positions of yakubauer, they are not exclusively military, but military-political, and he politically evaded from the answer, but it's also telling, ah, because he didn't say no, he didn't say that... it's impossible and we won't allow it and and and and and it's never will be, and firstly, i think for two reasons, after all, the national army is subject to a national decision first and foremost, that is, it is not an alliance decision, they cannot prevent

france from making a decision about the use of the army, but again, the lack of the no direct answer also suggests that... such options are being considered either under the nato umbrella or without the nato umbrella, but again, it is possible that national countries, national governments will be able to make such decisions independently. another long-suffering one the question is taurus missiles, yes. we will say that we have been waiting for a solution to this problem for months, unfortunately, it is not solved, for us, ukrainians, these missiles... relatively speaking, they are necessary, necessary, our defenders need them even more, in this case, in your opinion, we should expect this, don't expect olaf scholz's position today, it is so principled that, conditionally, until the end

of his term, we should forget about the taurus missiles and not even mention it, but concentrate on something else, do you know... will this compromise convince ukraine and the leaders of other states, specifically scholz and his coalition, in the fact that, after all , ukraine needs these missiles in order to move forward and in order to ultimately move towards ukrainian victory. good question, it's almost been a year since we first talked about taurus, i remember it absolutely clearly. this day, when in luxembourg we had a meeting with the german delegation from the bundestag, and we had already received the leopards at that time, and we talked with my colleague from the defense committee, markus faver, about

what else germany could help, and actually then he said that they still have taurus, these very long-range missiles, we raised it in the public space for the first time, and then the minister. of defense officially made a request for these missiles, but relied on scholz's position, in order to somehow correct this position or push him to make this decision , a lot of different actions were taken at different levels, at the level of the president, of course, and at the level of the government, our at the parliamentary level, we worked with all factions of the coalition, nevertheless, they voted in one way or another to request remote missiles for providing them to ukraine, and even scholz's faction in the parliament voted yes, they called the word taurus, but they described in this way that there could be no other option in the resolution they adopted with an appeal to scholz himself, and we

worked a lot with the ministry of defense and also behind the scenes they say we are in favor, the decision still remains with scholz, and it seems that the only person in... in the country in germany who is against this supply, these supplies, is precisely scholz. scholz is afraid if it is his or if it is some kind of his personal position, does he really have substantiated facts why missiles cannot be supplied to ukraine. the arguments he gives, frankly, do not stand up to any criticism. every time he came up with something new, we broke down those arguments very simply. at first the story was that, ah... these are too long-range missiles, because even the manufacturers do not talk about the final range where they can reach, they say that 500 km is guaranteed, after that it is closed information, and we, and that these missiles

should be limited in use, must meaning in the radius of use, which does not stand up to any criticism, because... these are not ballistic missiles that fly in a curve, they are maneuvering cruise missiles that can do the same there 500 km maneuvers that will go around and have. to bypass the enemy's air defense systems, terrain and so on, so in a straight line it can be 300 km, and with all these maneuvers, it can be 400, 500 or more. second, well, to blame us or, you know, not even to blame, to suspect us of being able to hit the territory with these missiles the russian federation, well, this is absolutely nonsense, because we have already stressed for two years that we use all western weapons. exclusively on the territory of ukraine, and the third argument was, we also

refuted this, the third argument was that it is impossible to quickly replenish the stocks of these missiles, and if they are transferred to ukraine in any significant quantity. i was at the production of the raket taurus at the mbda company, and i spoke with the managers of this company, they say that tomorrow, if there is a ... mixed order for these rockets, we tomorrow launch, and within a few months we can deliver them, well, perhaps, something last from what i remember the argument that they, scholz's office or scholz himself said that in order to operate these missiles, german the military is here on the territory of ukraine, and this can lead to an escalation there and a direct confrontation with the russian federation, this is also nonsense, it is not a battleship, because... the same managers of the mbdi manufacturer, they say, we do not need to send our military or

specialists to ukraine, your military come, we train them, and they go to do whatever they need. so, all those arguments given, they don't stand up to any criticism, for a real, real reason, i think he really, as a person who grew up in such a pacifist paradigm, even if... if there's 1%, maybe less than one of the problem of escalation due to the transfer of such missiles to ukraine between russia and germany, he would rather refuse such a transfer than take any risk of escalation with germany with russia. and the last question, actually in the international bloc, it concerns nato. nato, in fact, we have in... such a big, relatively speaking, anniversary

summit will be held, yes, at which certain decisions can be made, but if you look at what the american and european press is writing today, then, unfortunately, as far as i i understand, we should not expect to join nato, to be invited to nato. what, after all , is ukraine, if at its maximum, it can achieve, it can maximally... what profit can we get from this summit, what goal do we set for ourselves, in the end, is it membership in nato with a requirement regarding this summit, is it possible some other guarantees that we will need, at least in the near future, we are not replacing membership with guarantees, these are parallel processes, and we are talking about the fact that we need guarantees at that time, while we go to... to nato. as for the summit in washington, it is still too early

to say what we will get, what we will not get, it is a constant process in which positions change, and i will tell you that in the last six months, maybe eight months, i have heard if not, it will definitely not be political invitation, to we are looking for a formula, how to rephrase it correctly, and we, on our part , are doing everything possible in order to, nevertheless... ours to convince our partners and key partners in the united states and in germany and other partners that they from our side, these two countries pushed, and we do not stop, we have such an advocacy tour planned in these countries and we will continue to convince all the same that we need a political invitation that does not start the process of ratification in national parliaments, i.e. does not start the actual process of... the entire accession, we understand that we will be able to become nato members after the end of this war, but

to reserve this 33rd chair for us, in principle, our partners could, moreover, and it would give a signal to the kremlin that it does not influence events and decisions within the alliance, because if the next step is not taken after the vilnius summit, after those decisions that would bring us closer. to nato, it will mean that the alliance is really weak, it really does, after all, weigh on the kremlin's position and putin's position. i also say this to our partners that there will be no step forward, it will mean that it is a step back. well, well, another block of issues is very important, which concerns the internal policy of our state, the internal situation in our state, and probably no less

resonant, actually, the bill, this is the bill on mobilization, what we are already talking about, discussing. probably at least a few months, and in principle it has already been almost a year, the bill on mobilization, as far as i understand, as of today it is almost ready, or 100% ready, and according to the speaker of the parliament, mr. stefanchuk, sometime in the near future, maybe next week, maybe in another week, it should be brought to the meeting hall of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. is it so, is it 100% ready, is it possible that there will be some other changes, and most importantly, are the people's deputies ready to vote for this draft law, will there be 226 votes, yes, but still, conditionally speaking, we will have to postpone this issue again , which is no less

important for our country than allocation funds than the help of our international partners? and it is too early to talk about 100%, 100%, i think, will be after the signature of the president under this law, this will already be 100% of the law that has entered into force, now we have already passed 4269 amendments, which were submitted by our colleagues, and we are working, and tomorrow we will work on committee amendments, and there will not be so many of them. but they're going to be the main essential things that change there to balance this bill, after that, i think it's going to take us a day or two, no more, after that the final table is prepared, after that it is voted on in the committee, the committee's conclusion is drawn and

sent to the conciliation council, and the conciliation council puts it on the agenda in... the hall of the parliament, i think that in principle we are , we are moving at such a pace that at the next meeting, this draft law can be presented, if something force majeure does not happen, and when it will be voted on in the hall, it is impossible, it is impossible to say, because 4200 right, each of has deputies the right to put your amendment up for confirmation or for a vote or... just to speak, and that may take time, i hope that our colleagues, i'm asking them very much, and we're negotiating with them now, so that we don't delay this bill after all , which our country needs, which was developed by the ministry of defense at the request of the general staff, and we tried

to balance it as much as possible so that it was, after all, responsive. on the one hand, the request of the army, on the other hand, still understanding the needs and problems of society and some excesses that were in the first version, but i hope that our colleagues will still vote for this version, that is, conditionally speaking, somewhere, if everything goes well, it should come into force on june 1, well, if everything goes well, i i hope that even earlier, i don't know how much... it will take 400 amendments again, and i really hope that not every deputy will speak on every amendment, that's minutes for a speech, plus minutes for voting, here and there plus the speaker's announcement, that is, relatively speaking, three minutes for each edit, that's us we will sit for a very long time, and i and such, unfortunately, we had examples when we voted for

some bills in which there were 10,000 amendments and each amendment was passed in this way, now i do not see such a need and... of such readiness, let's say so, of our, our colleagues, yes, some of them will partially raise and discuss their amendments there, but i hope that we will manage in weeks, in days, but not in weeks, that is, about 4,000 amendments, if we we will start considering there next week or in a week, then somewhere in two weeks, maybe we will pass this bill, and the last block that we have to speak today is for... the work of the parliament, many experts, journalists, politicians are talking about the fact that we have a parliamentary crisis today, that is, there are not enough votes, the relevant ones are not adopted. bills, as an example, the verkhovna rada of ukraine provided the minimum number of bills, the minimum amount of work in general during march.

mr. yehor, is there really such a crisis of parliamentarism now, why are we so often we see an empty hall, why very often there are not enough votes, we have to, relatively speaking, look for these votes in order to vote for important bills, how does it work today in this case... the parliament, is it really a parliamentary crisis, is it really such a problem is there now in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, which affects, in fact, the vital activities of the country? it is difficult for me to speak on behalf of all my colleagues, to be honest, we in the defense committee work every day considering these 400 amendments for several thousand weeks, if not months, and we are going. and in we have a quorum, and there are enough people, and we are voting, but as for the empty halls in the session hall of the parliament, then the question is what

is being considered, it really happens like this sometimes, and the last time i was also in the session hall when there were no votes, but there were no votes due to consideration of resolutions blocking previous ones. voted draft laws and in principle they do not require votes for them, let's say so, because they are blocking resolutions, and it is absolutely clear that we do not vote for such resolutions, i speak as a servant of the people, that's why there actually was no people, and maybe the picture looked like this , that it is like that, that the parliament does not work, but i will explain with a specific example that there was no need, this was our position. because, for example , bill 10313 was blocked, which allowed to combine databases, well, different databases in order to

simplify the work of our army and to understand in general how many people we have, how much mobilization and mobilization reserve we have, but for some reason some opposition parties decided that this bill is not the kind that is needed and... they put the institution in a blocking position, this is their right, this is democracy, but it is our right not to vote for such a resolution and actually not to be in the hall because of such resolutions, which in principle only take up time and block this bill again , which we could already work. i think that's all, unfortunately, we have a certain time limit, i thank you very much for visiting our studio, for the fact that you and i talked about extremely important things, this and the international community. policy, and the law on mobilization, and in principle, parliamentary activity in our country, is something that is extremely disturbing to our citizens, and well,

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news time on the espresso tv channel. kateryna shirokopoyas works in the studio. explosions rang out again in kharkiv. mayor ihor terekhov wrote about this on social networks. according to him , two explosions were heard. in social networks , it is assumed that the enemy hit the city of kaby again. people are urged to shelter in place, and in general, due to the consequences of the russian attacks , kharkiv maintains hourly blackout schedules. this was announced by deputy minister of energy mykola kolisnyk. for him words, the situation in the city remains one of the most difficult. measures are currently being taken to restore the system. in general , there is no shortage of electricity in the country, thanks to imports from the eu. at the same time, in the front-line areas , 414 settlements remain without

power supply as a result of shelling.