possible, on the same level, perhaps, as the commercial component, therefore, taking into account the geopolitical distribution of forces and the changes taking place in the world, the political component can help us a little in terms of joint projects with powerful partners, foreign, including by the united states. then the question arises, if the president suddenly changes in the states during the elections, will this, inertia, or this concession, progress towards cooperation with ukraine, even on the scale that exists today , be preserved? that well, ukraine is now extremely important for american defense companies, it can offer many joint projects, a statement about... but the results we see now are that they are

peculiar without joint ventures and so on, but the change of power in the united states will affect these trends, which were started under the current president? i don't want to pit one administration against another, but what i can emphasize is that, as you rightly said, under the current administration, there is definitely a trend, but at the same time there is a slowdown and not only in the aspect that depends, for example, on the congress, yes, but also in other aspects, it is the transfer of technologies, it is a special representative, an adviser, the use of a strategist, these are other issues, and i don’t think that they depend much there from the will of this or that specific president, america still... still

has a fairly stable political system, and you know, i don’t want to draw such unequivocal conclusions, including in this hint, which i will say now, we got javelins under trump, yes the first assault weapons we got from during the trump administration, and say that if there will be changes, if there will be a new one. the president of the united states and it will be trump, then it will not necessarily have a negative impact. of course, there are big risks, we all understand, there is the human factor of this particular person, the unpredictability is certain, but with the right diplomatic work, ah, i think we have a good chance and with a new administration, based on the fact that america - it's still a system, and we already are. a certain element, and i don't

want to blow it up there, but in a certain sense we are an element of national security of the united states, that we are at war, in fact, with one of the key, one of the key threats to the united states. mr. pavle, you are meeting with american defense companies, what do you tell them about it? to the prospects of working with ukraine, start, don't delay, wait, what advice do you give them, how do they react to it, er, this is a good question in the sense that it's good that we have a broadcast in ukrainian, er, actually we you all already know somewhere, got a bite to eat, and we are working to attract, to contact, to establish, we find

arguments, how to say, ah, practical, yes, for american companies, and first of all, we focus on potential foreign markets, on the fact that we have, ah, well, a colossal , not with us, but with the armed forces, a colossal experience in the use of weapons, including, including western, and a technological component in the sense that we have... an intellectual resource, because to say that we have some advanced technologies, unfortunately, are also not possible, but there is an intellectual component, certain moments, there are related to the cheapening of weapons and competition there potentially with china, on foreign markets and so on, we argue all this, at the same time, well, we perfectly understand that purely as an investment project it is impossible to approach here, but for ukraine it's a big economic one. issues, that is,

the military industry will, i hope, still be a fairly significant element of our economic growth over time, and a plus, i emphasize once again, it is a political component, it is important, allies such as the united states of ukraine needed, as well as european, of course, and the arms market and the arms industry is one of the elements of close cooperation, mr. pavle, thank you very much, you know such a diplomatic conversation related to the prospects of cooperation with the united states, i hope that in our next meetings we will talk more.. . in detail about those projects that will already appear in that period of time, thank you for your comments, for your correct accents, and i will remind our viewers that it was pavlo verhnyatskyi, director and managing partner of the ukrainian company kosa, co-coordinator of the working group on security and aerospace industry,

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partners, and especially technological weapons, which should be much better than what our enemy has. and now we will talk about it with an example. of cooperation with sweden, and now we are in touch with yuriy voytenko, the head and founder of the company wireless p2p technology, this is a company in sweden, but it was founded by ukrainians, the company produces high-tech products that are already used both in sweden itself and in nato countries . mr. yuriy, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear, each other, thank you, i congratulate you, i would like to make such a small retrospective, because sweden has given us a significant. number of technological weapons, there are also howitzers, archers, bmp cv90, a significant number of anti-tank weapons, but we want to do something jointly, and about two months ago , it seems, the president of ukraine was at a conference in sweden, because he spoke about the fact that joint

production with sweden for is our priority, and i am sure, says zelensky, that a day will come when you and i will be able to see the opening of the first common one in ukraine. production - the head of state said then, at what point we are now, respectively towards this goal, how the defense industry of sweden in general now perceives these work prospects. with ukraine, er, well, a complex issue, generally perceived quite positively, and there are quite specific examples where, er, swedish companies, in particular the same saab or byy systems, as if they have, in principle, already made a final decision for themselves, so yes they cooperate, i just don’t know who the counterparty is in ukraine, probably ukroboronprom, or one of the other big players, but in principle there are already positive signals of such

cooperation, that is, it has started, by the way, here you are talk about who the counterparties are, i speak with representatives of our analytical structure, with representatives of the american side, they ask the same, we sometimes do not know who our counterparty is in solving certain projects, so this is the achilles' heel, i hope primarily ukrainian. the party that has to get rid of it, but is the market of ukraine interesting for sweden at all, because sweden is self-sufficient, and actually talking about the fact that there is a need to expand sales markets at the expense of ukraine, it looks somehow, well, sometimes not it is quite appropriate in view of the capacities and projects implemented by swedish companies, well, i completely agree, in principle, sweden is one of the... huge exporters of weapons in the world, i don't know what level there is, fifth or sixth place there in the world in terms of the volume

of arms exports, it is an almost 100% export-oriented military-industrial complex, although there is also an actual order, and now it has increased there, in my opinion, by a factor of two, but here is the question, you have to understand, what ukraine can provide to the swedes, that's where... that's the point synergies, or cooperations, this is not just a market, the swedes have produced something and conditionally sold it to ukraine, it must be understood in the context of cooperation that the ukrainian side is so interesting for the swedish companies to jointly produce some high-tech product, we can talk about it to talk, there are certain, then the question arises, what is so interesting in ukraine, which can be interesting for... because you, i don't know , have been trying and communicating with our defense

enterprises for seven or eight years, so what is interesting in ukraine for sweden? well, actually my case may not be so interesting, although it is a very niche story, a very niche product, now it is very interesting that the ukrainian side is considering such an interesting aspect to sweden. this is real experience, or feedback, as it is fashionable to say, from the battlefield, because the huge amount of weapons that were produced in nato countries, conventionally, now not only in sweden, in the united states, in the uk, anywhere, revealed that, well, there are questions, there are questions about tactics, there are questions about performance characteristics, there is a question about the moral obsolescence of certain types of armor, no everyone, of course, but there are such questions, so this feedback, which comes directly... in real time from the battlefield, this experience is the most valuable thing that ukraine can give

swedish companies now, and they, believe me, understand it quite well, that is, we are talking about the fact that the use of archer howitzers, bmpcv90, anti-tank weapons is now being carefully studied by the swedes, in order to make the next iterations of these weapons even more technological , taking into account the challenges they saw on the battlefield, well... a small example enlau, after certain problems with rechargeable batteries and batteries that are included in the kit, certain processes began and i know that there are certain projects to modernize these batteries for enlau, because they simply well , even if they reached the shelf life, they simply did not withstand those ttx, which were included in them. this is a specific example, as soon as the feedback came in and the swedes began to work on, began to work on this

problem. and what should ukraine actually do in order to interest sweden in such a systemic partnership up to the exit of the joint venture enterprises, to offer contracts, to offer some kind of improved financial conditions, which is systematically lacking, which, well, does not give the effect of synergy on... so far , at the level we expect. well, first of all, of course, the planning horizon, because to all swedish companies, the same saap, or any, they work on extremely long horizons, the same. lau was developed there for five years or more, and under this there is a certain procedure, certain contracts with fmw or directly there with some customer, and by the way, it is good that in ukraine finally has an analogue of the fmv, or nspa procurement of yunativska procurement of the buyer, this is very good, it is perceived extremely positively, because there is

a specific algorithm, how to submit a commercial proposal, how to receive an invitation to a tender, how to cooperate with state institutions in ukraine, here the next question, of course, and what is definitely a problem for swedish companies, precisely in cooperation with ukraine, is what is called plm, or product life cycle management, that is, they did not just put a bunch of enlaves or a bunch of some equipment, but also personnel training, support. of this product, long-term support for this product, equipment, updates, a lot of software that changes every day, it needs to be updated, well, in principle, this is a well-established practice here , but i am not sure that

there is something similar in ukraine, because, for example, you can put a modern radar over it, and then not update... the database of waveforms and it simply will not see what it should see, purely by physical characteristics, so this synergy, this life cycle management, it should also somehow be implemented in this cooperation with ukrainian companies, and finally i will ask, it seems that three times during the years of the war, different officials came to sweden, told: about global projects, about global desires, what happened after the conclusion of these visas, i.e. was there some kind of real continuation because i'm afraid that in fact this habit of visits still lays the basis of such good real system interactions, does it succeed today? well, let's say this, it's not a binary logic, something somewhere in the middle, but yes

of course there were visits, there were slogans and. very loud, all this is great, certain processes, as i said at the beginning, have started, but the potential of the swedish industry is so great that it could be better, actually. well, mr. yuriy, i don't want to end the conversation on this, i want to say better, what positive things there are now in the work with switzerland, which really help ukraine on the battlefield, a few techs, okay, definitely, well, there are... those contracts, which are carried out and the supply is planned for several years in advance, therefore, in certain niches, everything is in there in principle, everything is going well, the production is in full swing, in principle it has already reached certain parameters, in terms of quantities, in terms of dates, in terms of shipments, there are certain channels, how it

is done, therefore supply, therefore, in principle, this and that is normal, just the potential is so great , that it would be possible to... actually overwhelm with these weapons, if you prepare in advance, but in principle, this process also goes normally, let's say this, and considering what kind of products it is, what the range is, then everything is fine there, everything, but he can't open it a little, but now it seems that he is going to a big meeting between the swedish defense industry association and a number of ukrainian defense companies, again there to exchange to... house, what kind of event will it be, what can be the result after such an exchange of views at the current stage of hostilities with the russian federation, well, i say extremely it is an interesting experience how modern warfare is changing, because many systems that are already, shall we say, morally obsolete , are in service, they need to be removed, something

should be put in place of them, and for this you need to understand what actually are modern threats. which in the principles of tactics of application, it is especially interesting in the context of attacks on infrastructure, and this is extraordinary, this is a unique experience, there is no one in the world with such experience, this is what ukraine can provide in the context of all visits, exchange of experience there and so on. sweden, for its part, will adjust its industrial capabilities to meet the needs of the modern battlefield, or the military to, shall we say, address. these threats are correct and mr. yuri, here is an extreme question for you, based on your experience perception of events on the front line, we once did a program with you last year where you... talked about the fact that fpv drones will be decisive there on the battlefield, this prediction came true, but now what is your further attempt to look beyond the horizon to to see what

exactly will change on the front line of the use of weapons there, well, in the next 3-6 months there, what should be prepared for in certain segments of the use of weapons samples or tactics, well, thin ice. if with such broad strokes, then new purity ranges, clearly, the wider the better, non-kinetic means of influence, electromagnetic and the like, well, yes, without a doubt, all types of intelligence that exist, radio-electronic, space, there are any, that is, it is all combined into a single circuit, so to speak, that is, from... detection of lesions in various ways, kinetic, non-kinetic, and so on, this is the prospect of the next six months and a year. do you see the movement of the ukrainian side, specifically ukrainian

developers, in this direction? well , without a doubt, we will constantly get in touch with ukrainian companies, that's modern experience, we absolutely adequately analyze the current state of the electromagnetic spectrum, which is absolutely unique in the world. and i will say this , there are such anomalies, phenomena that have never existed, but now they are, so it must be addressed adequately, from the point of view of equipment, technical characteristics, by the way, you asked about fpv drones, well there it is obviously a problem, because it is all built on civil components, which in no way meet the requirements that exist now, that is, there is simply not enough frequency resource for their effective use, mr. yuriy, thank you for the inclusion, i hope that in peacetime we will talk in more detail about what means were used in the war, technological things that affected the enemy, so far we are silent about it. thank you for the inclusion, let me remind you that it was yuriy voytenko,

the founder and head of the swedish company wireless p2p technology, which has been working in sweden for a long time and supplies technological products for nato countries, and has close contacts with ukraine. if we sum up, we can say. that there are essential prerequisites for that the ukrainian army becomes stronger due to cooperation with foreign companies, not all european and american companies there have the same strategies and views on cooperation with ukraine, to a large extent it depends on their policy, but sometimes there are akhedlesov five on the example of the ukrainian side , when we talk about a certain bureaucracy, labyrinths in the creation of such active, working people. relations with foreign companies, we hope that the ukrainian side will get rid of these defects as soon as possible and we will have much more effective the results of the creation of new types of weapons

together with american and european defense companies, stay tuned to the spresso channel, there will be a lot of interesting things to come. we are looking for six-year-old sashko hrytsenko. i know that the boy lived in the city of lysychansk in the luhansk region. this territory was occupied almost from the first days of the full-scale war. little alexander lived with his old great-grandmother. it was she who took care of the child, as i understand it, from time to time she contacted her relatives. but about a year ago , she died and the boy was apparently taken away social services. after that, the whereabouts of sashko hrytsenko is unknown, whether the child is still in the temporarily occupied territory, or whether the boy was taken to russia,

it has not yet been possible to find out. sashka is now trying to find his father, who is in the territory controlled by ukraine. the man, of course, turned to the police, but at the moment there is no clue to find out where his six-year-old son is. that is why your help is very important. i appeal to... everyone who sees this video, and especially to the residents of the occupied luhansk region. look carefully at the photo child the guy looks 6-7 years old. he is thin, about 110-115 cm tall. he has straight light blond hair, an oval face and brown eyes. sashko has a medical diagnosis of cerebral palsy. if anyone has seen the boy or knows where he might be now, call the emergency hotline immediately. at magnolia children's by short number 11630. calls from all ukrainian mobile operators are free, if you suddenly cannot make a call, write to

the service's chatbot. looking for children in telegram. this is just one story of a missing child. in general, since the beginning of the war, we have already received more than 3,000 appeals for help in the search. fortunately, the vast majority of children have already been found, but the fate of many remains unknown, especially in the temporarily occupied territories, where the work of the police is practically paralyzed, where it is impossible to leave and there are communication problems. anyone can help find missing children. take just a minute of your time and visit the magnolia children's tracing website. here you can view all the photos of the missing. who knows, maybe you will recognize someone in the end help to find i also want to remind you that the search for nine-year-old nikita nikolaev is still ongoing. the boy is also from luhansk region, from the city of rubizhne. the settlement has been occupied since may 2022. but he disappeared. nikita in may

23, and in fact, nothing is known about the boy's fate for almost a year. it is quite likely that the child could be taken to russia, but not a fact. perhaps nikita is still in the temporarily occupied territory. therefore, i really hope that thanks to your concern , the boy will be found. more please look carefully at the photo and remember nikita nikolaev's face. he has blue ones. and light blond hair, he looks like a nine-year-old boy, if anyone has seen nikita or knows something about his possible whereabouts, do not hesitate and dial the short number of the magnolia children's search service 11630 from any mobile operator, calls are free , if it is suddenly not possible to call, write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram. i will also

remind you that the search is still ongoing. 15-year-old ilya polishchuk from mariupol. imagine nothing is known about the fate of this boy since the beginning of the full-scale war. contact with ilya was lost on february 24, and no one knows where he might be now. therefore, i appeal to everyone who sees me now, and especially to the residents of mariupol, who may be watching this program on social networks. look carefully at the boy's photo. he looks to be 14-15 years old with... he has light blond hair and dark eyes, if anyone has seen the boy or knows where he may be now please call us on the hotline search for magnolia children by short number 11630. calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free. if it is not possible to call, write to the chatbod of the children's search service in telegram. any information is important. we have created a resource

thanks to which you can report any crime against a child, in any city, at any time, just go to the site and report, and we will launch all possible mechanisms to punish the criminal. stop congratulations, friends, saturday's airing is on the air on the tv channel. andrii smolii and vitaly portnikov. today we will definitely discuss all the most important events of this week, the things that most concern ukrainians and the most important things for ukraine now. we will discuss issues that are important for the front, and international politics , of course, we will traditionally have three guests, and in the next hour, as usual, we will talk with vitaly portnikov and

analyze all the events and... everything we need for the ukrainian victory, and now the first guest, ivan kylychevskyi, defense express expert, we will talk about the main events at the front, around the front this week, congratulations, mr. ivan, good evening, well, let's start with the russian attacks on ukraine, we can trace some tactics, let's say, planned in those attacks that we have been observing for the last few days. and in recent days, well, first of all, here let's, let's say, correct the terminology a bit, because the fact that the russians can use missiles and rockets to attack ukraine are methods and methods of using weapons, not tactics, tactics - it is rather here media term, on the other hand, and i think we need to go to a somewhat higher conceptual level and first write how the russians planned this campaign of strikes?