in the next hour, as usual, we will talk with vitaly portnikov and analyze all the events and everything that we need for ukrainian victory. well, now the first guest is ivan kyrychevskyi, defense expert. we will talk about the main events on the front, around the front this week. congratulations, mr. ivan. good evening. well, let's start with the russian attacks on ukraine. you can trace. some kind of tactics, let's say, planned in those attacks that we have been observing in the last days and in the last days, well, first of all, here we go, let's put it this way, let's correct the terminology a bit, because the fact that the russians can use missiles and rockets to attack ukraine is the methods and methods of using weapons, not tactics, tactics is more of a media term here, on the other hand, i i think we need to go to something higher. virtual level and to start

writing how the russians planned this campaign of strikes, you know, this was exactly the case when, as it seems, well, goldie meyer attributes these words or something, when there, if these people warn that they get ready to kill you have to believe them, but the russians, believe me, warned everyone in this format last summer, when they wrote that they are not just planning missile strikes to destroy our infrastructure, but also planning it... there it is like such a wider campaign for recognition our potential, including psychological. in this case , it is especially important for the russians that we, in principle, delve into every unknown detail regarding their missile attacks and in this way begin to develop the psychological potential on our own, so in this case i do not think that we should discuss exactly the actions of the russian invaders, i think that here in this case it is worth paying attention to the fact that, contrary to how the russians are constantly trying to overload... the air

defense system, our air defense specialists cope with this perfectly, well, with that in order to overcome the russian plans. mr. ivan, the issue that is currently being discussed a lot both in social networks and among the military is the so-called offensive of russia on the times of iv. how do you currently assess the potential of rashist eva, there is none. we see that according to the maps deep state, they are actually there somewhere. are approaching the borders of this city itself, what should we expect from this, from this, is this really to some extent already the beginning of an offensive on the times, or is this, as they say, probing the ground before some kind of large-scale offensive, which they talk about in may , about june, well, i don't object to anything here, but we need to clarify such a term, it's one thing to simply have the potential for an offensive, the russians, unfortunately, always have it.

well, purely because they succeeded in each of the groups in which they operate, well, in particular on bakhmudskyi, to accumulate a sufficiently large group of troops, relatively near bakhmet itself, there were estimates from 50 tere to 80 thousand, respectively, plus there is a logistical shoulder relatively close, but another question is how they, well, that is, the enemy will be able to realize this potential, because in this case, we still have certain grounds for such, you know, restrained optimism, that is, restrained optimism thanks to the fact that soldiers from... the defense forces of ukraine are doing their combat work much more effectively than in principle could be expected in conditions of this deficit resources, because, well, on the example of the summer of 2023, we could see that how difficult it is to provide a frantic defense, so to speak, when the russians play their surovikina line, well, there is a nuance, after the summer of 2022 , our troops also learned to play with by the russians, you know in the style that the game in the surovikin line can be played by two, and accordingly the russians... when they try to advance,

they bear even heavier losses than could be imagined, purely due to the fact that even with a shortage of resources, when there may not be enough full-time staff according to the standards of shells, ammunition, good equipment, drones, but when all this is combined into a complex, that is, when drones and armored vehicles, artillery work at the same time, then certain miracles begin, miracles in the sense that for how many months the russians have been trying to advance to the temporary yaru, well, but the front line is more or less... it is holding steady, so the russians could plan this attack on chasivara as such, you know, a preparatory stage for a larger offensive, well, because the task of occupying the entire donbas is not removed from their agenda , accordingly, in order to implement these tasks, they need to move in the bakhmut direction, but here we are in exactly the situation when, you know, if we really believe in the armed forces of ukraine, then first of all, we need to believe in their potential, only then try to measure something on the map. because sometimes

with us it looks like that joke about the rabbit cross, that is, we believe in the armed forces, but we panic precisely because of russian information messages. but tell me if you continue the topic of time aaa. if you imagine that the russians really managed to break through there, what operating space opens up for them, or is it just another settlement? at this stage, it looks like one more settlement, after which they will have to take an operational pause, because even if we see the situation in the avdiiv direction, well , it is just a similar picture that they took the settlement, they intended to develop an offensive in deep, but they managed to detain them there too , including using abrams tanks, respectively, given that they were premature... is there any place to advance at all, well, for the army of the russian federation in this case, at this stage it is a task at most, to go out, seize the ravine, and then accumulate forces for further advancement, but again, they must first go to the temporary ravine and capture it, but they may have

nuances. let's talk about our potential, ukrainian, yesterday morning, in fact, our defenders, our special services... struck several airfields, such key ones, from which russian planes actually take off, which in fact, rockets are fired at our peaceful cities, this is, in fact, what, this is already an increase in the potential of our drones, our defenders, whether we will see this in principle in the future, and in the end, whether this will affect, conditionally speaking, further missiles. attacks, which, unfortunately, have become very, very many in march. let's start here from the end, regarding the fact that this will affect russian missile attacks, it is better not to list it here in advance, because the mistake can be critical, well, yes, we all know that there was a strike on the engels airfield,

we see, today there was a very strange detail that the russians raised everything there, it seems one or more bombers, from which only two rockets were fired, well, it was something strange and rational... it is difficult to explain it, maybe they really had problems there, let's say yes, certain problems after bovovna, but if we talk about such a perspective, we will only see an increase, that it will continue to increase, increase, we will have additional nomenclature of drones, new attack attempts will be carried out, as far as we can now see, the main idea of ​​the defense forces of ukraine looks like this, if we objectively lack classic means of air defense, we must use an asymmetric means of air defense, namely unmanned ones. or drones that can carry explosives to airfields, even if as a result of such raids so far there are no such impressive pictures, as russian planes in a state of scrap metal burn up so brightly, after a certain time it will have its effect in that regard , what well, from the rubric, if they don't let us fly, then

we won't let them fly either, especially considering how limited our resources are, that's why we have to use such symmetrical methods, unfortunately, a quick result here, well, a quick one. in the sense that in a few days or in a few weeks there is no need to wait, well, because when the usa fought there against iraq, for example, in 1991, it was necessary to bombard the country with an embryonic air defense system for 3 months, using everything it is possible, well, unfortunately, we are not the usa has potential, but on the other hand, in fact, the prospects are better now than the russians, by the way, there is another clarifying question, for example, the institute of study. of war today stated that there is no confirmation that russian planes were damaged or destroyed there, this is some kind of lack of information, or is it already accordingly that the institute for the study of war has more thorough information than, for example, the ukrainian air force, the same with rbc ukraine, if i'm not mistaken,

yesterday with reference to our special services , i stated there about a number of essentially destroyed and tu-95, and probably su-34, su-35, how can these icw statements be interpreted in the context of information from our ukrainian military? if speaking subjectively, i perceive the establishment of this institution in such a way that you do not read bolshevik newspapers before lunch and in principle no newspapers even before lunch and after, if speaking in substance and in form, well, now there are satellite ones in public access pictures, based on which you can see that some kind of explosion. there were, for example, traces of explosions at the morozovsk airfield, but it is not yet possible to accurately establish the nature of the damage to the plane there is no possibility, well, or planes, well, purely because, in theory, planes can stand, you know, outwardly look intact, but they can be broken by debris, maybe there are

satellite images of such an affordable quality, they can be closed, provided there from military satellites countries of nato, accordingly, now there is simply no open access to data that could... you know, clearly allow us to say that there is a result, there is no result, respectively, if we also take into account the fact that the institute for the study of war, this , so to speak, no a state organization that, in principle, has there... its own specific goals, it is unlikely that someone would, you know, immediately share the satellites from scratch, look, please immediately write that nothing happened, they are reading the so-called rushen miles bloggers, and this is another thing that really excites me, that it turns out that in this way, when our media often quote the establishment of the institute for the study of war, they quote an abstract report by russian propagandists, but here then the question arises and since when did the compilations of russian propagandists become a reliable source of information for us... if it is repackaged in the form of a western institution, the institute for the study of war, well

, the question immediately arises, you know, from this point of view, how much in principle are ukrainian strikes, so to speak about oil refining, if we talk about aerodromes, can compete with the russian one, if we use only drones, or some diversionary, let’s say opportunities, as it was with today’s pipeline detonation, and the russians are rocket technology. well, first of all, i wouldn’t say that we have bad prospects with missiles, because if we recall one of the episodes that did not receive adequate coverage, the sinking of the ship konstantin alshansky captured by the occupiers of the ship konstantin alshansky by a neptune rocket, then there were generally two things, the first thing is that on neptune the firing range has increased dramatically within the stated purpose, to make it a classic cruise missile for striking ground targets, plus there has been a clearly improved guidance system that allows for... target selection, well that is, if it was just

a cruise anti-ship missile in 2021, then even in that episode this weapon showed itself, well, how could it possibly be the best example of a western one from the kyrgyz republic, and accordingly , certain pleasant surprises may await us there, and the russians unpleasant if we talk about just such an asymmetric comparison of potential, then at first glance it may look like that even there those kamikaze drones are raging, which are hitting the refinery, well, it is not so powerful there. as large-scale as the russian kha101, but there is a nuance: our drones, like less powerful weapons, in general, they create bigger problems for the enemy than their missiles do for us, well, because, let’s face it, if you recall and compare various episodes with strikes on the refinery, here is our kremenchug oil refinery there, to put it out of order in the spring in 2022, the russians needed as many as 30 different missiles, and judging by this, it did not help them, and 30 missiles, including the x22 with a warhead of 1 ton, then... in our case, a lot of good trouble, the enemy was able to create drones that are worth everything 2000

dollars, well, that is, 10 times cheaper than a cruise missile, and where the warhead is only 50 kg, that is, also 10 times less, here maybe we are just watching the story of how david defeats goliath thanks to his ingenuity, but we just we still don't appreciate ingenuity, we are too maximalist in some respects in our actions, that if something flies there, it immediately hits. and knock the russians out there, you know, from under their feet, but the problem is that when we all wake up, let's say, on february 25, 2022, it's unlikely some of us in principle imagined that after some time we would discuss the systematicity of our strikes on the russian federation, that we would have the appropriate nomenclature of means for this, in fact, the fact that even in two years we just managed to create a line of decoy kamikaze drones, it’s just a historic achievement, because iran, in order to create the same... shahed had to work for five years and this despite the fact that they were working on a stolen german project.

it took the russians 10 years of work to create their missiles of the ekh-1 caliber there. well, that is, we indeed, david, who very quickly bypasses the goliath, including according to the pace of various promising developments. literally one minute, at the expense of the ukrainian tets, and mr. shmyhal, the prime minister of ukraine, and actually in the mass media. the figure of 80% appears, so in essence the destroyed ukrainian power plants, do you think we should expect further strikes, and in this context, how can we protect the ukrainian energy industry in the future, literally one minute, and we are already at the stage where we have to move by the way, what are there it seems that specialized energy specialists said after the last campaign that we still need to finally build a decentralized distribution, well, because to protect everything... well, even the usa does not have the resources that there are 400 patriots, but the nuance there is that we just to close the sky, we need all

the patriots of the usa, they won't be given to us yet, so, unfortunately, we are just at the stage when we just need to build the energy industry anew and in such a way that the russians can't beat it irrationally. thank you, mr. ivan, ivan kyrychevsky, defense express expert, we are literally now on we will break for a few minutes, but please stay with us, there are more interesting conversations ahead. there are discounts on eurofast softcaps of 10% in the psarynsky, pam and oskad pharmacies. there are discounts on gepargin 15. in psarynsky, pam and oskad pharmacies. vasyl zima's big broadcast. this is the great ether, my name is vasyl zemai, we are starting. two hours of airtime, two hours of your time.

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stronger together! hello, this is svoboda ranok, an informational project of radio svoboda. top guests every day. this is the shipping district, kherson. turn on live. we are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut. we tell the main thing. on weekdays at 9:00. we return to saturday political club, and we already have a new guest. so, do we have a guest? yes, there is, we will see him now, this is volodymyr ogryska, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009 , head of the russian research center.

congratulations, mr. volodymyr. congratulations, mr. vitaliy, dear andriy, good health, well, what will be the money in the states, please tell me, it is all possible now, everyone will ask when someday, someday they will be, someday they will be, the question is only when you see that is happening, how much everything really came to a dead end, and here mr johnson is really in a stalemate, because if you go to the left, you will lose your life there, if you go to the right, you will be killed, that is, it is about the same thing, so let's wait. the drama is growing, let's see, mr. volodymyr, but still, as you think, conditionally speaking, there are now two options, the first option is to submit to the congress of the lower house of the parliament, the american, actually the bill that was voted by the senate, we

understand, that the situation here is a little deadlocked, and the republicans are at least radical. some don't really want to bear it this bill is up for a vote, there is a second option, it is actually the one that johnson is allegedly proposing, when bill number two will be de facto formed, in which part of the funds will be on credit, part of the funds, as they say, irrevocably, so actually, if we look at these two options, nevertheless, at least one of them is a probable state for ukraine at the moment, and most importantly, in what terms, whether we are talking about days, whether we are talking about weeks, or we are talking about months again , when ukraine will still not be able to receive this assistance, and it will be further blocked by various, well, such political, political, i would say nuances that are currently appearing in the lower parla

chamber of the us parliament. well, mr. andrii, if i had known, i would have won several lottery tickets. tens of millions of dollars, i think it would be a completely understandable story, but unfortunately, no one knows, neither i know, neither you know, nor johnson himself, i think does not know anything, because the situation has really reached a political impasse angle, and neither party wants to concede, how will it affect us, yes it is absolutely clear, the most negative thing is, if we continue even further... er, this political quagmire, excuse the word, but not us, our american partners, then it will mean that the situation can become real. dramatic for us, uh, you see, the europeans are trying to compensate for something like, well, additional allocations, additional plans,

you see, foltonder is talking about some kind of fund, but this is again, these are still conversations, when it will even be approved, it is not known, some say in washington, well, but it will happen already in july, and what about july, and what if the money appears after the decision is made for tomorrow, yes, definitely not, this is another delay, in a word... this is a very unpleasant situation, you see, we expected that in the first days of january, help will be voted on, and we will receive the necessary money, but, you see, our situation is such that , unfortunately, against the axis of evil that has formed, where moscow and beijing are the poles, another axis has formed, the axis of fear, the poles of which have become unfortunately, yours. and berlin, that's why it's all spinning around this thesis, if our nato partners really had more determination and

less fear, it seems to me that this topic could be closed as quickly as possible, unfortunately, this is not happening. and tell me, mr. volodymyr, what do you think about this nato fund worth 100 billion, which was proposed to be created by the secretary general of the north atlantic union, jen stoltenberg, they talked about it. in recent days, during the summit dedicated to the 75th anniversary of the formation of the north atlantic alliance, well, we can clearly see the opposition of hungary this decision, but it could have been predicted quite easily. how do you feel about such an idea? well, you know, from what i hear from our western friends, the idea now is to synchronize the course to some degree. of ukraine to the european union and nato, so that at least these processes take place more or less in parallel. recently

, the decision of the european union about 50 billion euros over the next four years was very positive for ukraine, somewhere this fund proposed by stotenberg resembles something similar and here, it seems to me, we do not need to refuse it in any way. this is on... so far what can certainly support us in the long run , the only question is, mr. vitaly, whether it will be implemented in the near future, because we simply have a shortage of this time, we don't have it, and if it will only be discussed for a long time first, then implemented for a long time, then this precious time for us will simply be lost, and the idea itself seems to me to be extremely interesting, necessary, the only thing, if you consider what nato countries have in their ,

in their warehouses, in their hangars and so on, you know, you can do with much simpler solutions, but for this you need political will and the absence of fear, i come back to the same thesis again, the thesis, unfortunately, neither the other very often... our partners are not there, they are afraid. another interesting, controversial topic. putin and idil. putin de facto defends idil and does not recognize that the actual terrorist attack in krok city hall was actually organized by idilites. and we see how all the rascal propaganda is here, and putin personally, and all of his people, all of his entourage, are just foaming at the mouth and trying to justify it. is essentially trying to transfer all the responsibility to ukraine, to demonstrate that it is the ukrainians, accordingly , in this way, to strengthen to a certain extent military such

warlike, pro-war sentiments, so in this case, after all, what goal is putin pursuing in the final case and will he succeed, actually, in russia leadership to continue playing this game, which... regarding the innocence of idil and the guilt of the ukrainians, and ultimately, how will this affect us in the final case? well, you see, mr. andriy, well, for me at least, there is no great doubt that the fsb is behind this terrorist attack, as it once was, and mr. vitaly, i think, remembers this perfectly, in his time in moscow and in other . countries, when putin needed to mobilize his population for another, for another, so to speak, exploits, er, because of whatever

moscow is saying now. propaganda there was looking for a ukrainian trace, found, found photos of a ship following a known course and so on, and considered this as evidence, well it is so, so sewn with white threads that it is not even about it, there is no point in saying that actually putin has already received, he really received a surge of this pseudo-patriotism, because you see that a lot of these... lured russians go to the military, sign up for front, they are talking about the fact that we will, we will take revenge for the crocus and so on, not taking into account a million factors that indicate that the initiators were actually the kremlin authorities, but we understand that the russian logic and the logic of a person with common sense are parallel

direct which never intersect, what should we expect, we should expect what putin was counting on, a surge of another chauvinism, a surge of hurrah-patriotism in russia, uh, what, actually, putin predicted from the very beginning. therefore, uh, the only thing that worries me is that our liberal western countries, somewhere are sifting through, uh, these,... formal condolences of russia, which wants to present at this moment and is presenting, actually now, as what the whole world is in solidarity with her, that the whole world should gather around the idea of ​​fighting terrorism, and russia is not here the aggressor, actually the victim, is another version of this special information operation, and here it is necessary to recognize and pay tribute to this

territory. in this regard, it conducts these operations quite efficiently, well, there is another important point here, if we believe that the federal security service of russia is involved in this terrorist act, how did the united states know about its preparation and organization, which even named siti hol's move among specific objects that can be hit. and this, mr. vitaly, seems to me to be explained quite simply, because the executors were not the russians, but the executors were. people from distant, or maybe even near , tajikistan, and even there, i think that american intelligence and not only that, not only american, work quite effectively and intercept messages that go between one and the other, well, in fact, not so and not so and it's difficult, that's why there are many things that have not yet been clarified, but

there are already too many inconsistencies, why, for example, if this crocus is several hundred meters from the fsb station, from the russian guard, from the police and so on, there no one came for 40 minutes pretended that nothing was happening there, why, when it had already started, the security that was there did not appear there. usually at the same time armed to the teeth, there are many things that indicate that it was not just like that, it was possible to get people out so that they would not die from a fire that suddenly broke out, well , imagine setting fire to such a space, where there is going to be 7 out of 10,000 people, you don’t need one canister, it’s true, but there were only four of these attackers,

and eh... at the same time, it was not visible that any of them were killed by this canister or canisters ran around, well, there are too many things that do not come into contact with the general concept, so i think that her fsb ears are definitely present there, eh, and we will still get to this information in time, but in terms of propaganda , putin needed it 150% . and sir volodymyr, if according to your version, the federal security service of russia did this, in principle, i am also plus or minus to this, maybe i am inclined, and then why does i deal also, in fact, come out like this, in advance of putin, take take responsibility for carrying out this terrorist attack, and another very important detail, which in principle

can be noted, is that... patrushev declares.