of the funds allocated by the state to the ministry of defense for the purchase of projectiles are taken out of ukraine through corruption schemes. so i have a question: are you going to fight at all or not? this is probably a rhetorical question and it is not rhetorical, mr. serhiy, it has already boiled over, and i understand that it has boiled over not only within ukraine, but also among partners. how... i'm sorry, the president is forced to go public and say that the allies raised the question of the rube, either you vote for the mobilization law, or you would be left without help, because we don't the trends that are taking place in ukraine are clear, it is quite a simple question, if president zelensky, as the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine, goes to the rostrum of the verkhovna rada and...

says that the council should make this decision, this clearly sends a signal to the entire body of deputies , it is unlikely that anyone will refuse president zelenskyi, well, he does not do that, well, even the statement itself, imagine, a higher official is forced to actually put pressure on the parliament, which works for 8 hours and goes either there on vacation or somewhere else critical for the times of ukraine, what is it about... sorry, the parliamentarians have no understanding of the current moment, what kind of legislative spam is this, 4 thousand amendments to the law, are you playing war, or are you fighting, no matter what, you are sitting there for our money, four months, an extremely important law for the ukrainian armed forces has not been adopted, and at this time we are told that we are conducting an internal audit. and what are the results? i would like

to know the results of this audit, for example, why the receivables are predicted, and this is money stolen from the armed forces of ukraine, for times moderately increased by 10 billion hryvnias. as of may 23, it was 36 billion, as of january 1, 24, 44.4, but it is already april and... i understand that it has not decreased. of course. thank you, mr. dmytro, it was dmytro snighir, military expert, co-leader of the public initiative right. friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live there. please join our platforms and participate in our voting today we ask you about this, will you donate to the armed forces of ukraine? yes, no, everything is quite on youtube. simply, if

you have espresso on the tv, that is , you are watching tv, pick up your smartphone and vote, if you donate to zsu 0800 211 381, no 0800 211 382. we are interested to know your opinion and we are interested to know whether you help the ukrainian army. at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we will be in touch with oleksiy kucherenko, people's deputy of ukraine, first deputy. chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on of energy and housing and communal services, former minister of housing and communal services. i congratulate you, mr. oleksiy. thank you for joining our broadcast. congratulations, good evening, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. let's talk, mr. oleksiy, about missile terror and how russia is trying to destroy our energy infrastructure. last year, you and i discussed quite actively what the... restoration agency headed by

mustafa naim was trying to do at energy facilities, there were budgets, they were building something, they were building some kind of protection, i i understand that this protection obviously did not work, judging by the results we have for march and early april, what is happening now with energy facilities in ukraine after these massive missile strikes? thank you, mr. serhiy, it is not a simple question. i will try to analyze with you as professionally and calmly as possible, without populism , what really happened, what is happening, well, first of all, let's understand that the missile strikes this year, what an enemy, well, in fact, the last three weeks after the actual end of the heating season , which he radically has stepped up and changed its tactics, and it 's clear today to both the military and the non-military, and... and that a lot more

missiles, combined strikes, drones, ballistic missiles, they're targeting, and unfortunately, they 're hitting, like in. .. objects, here, we see what is on the video, this is a substation, that is, this is a network object, a large, powerful substation, they usually belong to the state company ukrenergo, this is our own energy network, which makes our unified energy system, and allows you to transfer any power from one point to another, falls, unfortunately, in generation objects, first of all it is thermal generation, because as you can see, nuclear... generation has not been hit by the enemy so far, with the exception of the last drone attack on the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, well, which, as for me, i think it is simulated strike, this is separate, it can be discussed, but at the thermal generation facility, including in lviv oblast,

frankiv oblast, vinnytsia, dnipropetrovsk oblast, kharkiv oblast and others, it is, unfortunately, ballistic missiles... if they fall, then they cause very serious damage, there is mostly the majority generation belongs to the company ukrainian det, part of the generation was affected by the state company center-energo, and you heard the statements of the management of dtek that today, i am not saying destroyed, i am saying that the equipment was damaged, and they have lost 80% of their capacity today , by the summer they are going to recover by about half. you understand, it's by generation, by networks, i told you, i refer to my own conversation with kudrytsky , to his statement on the air of marathon and on other channels, that he believes that these objects kudrytsky himself

built the shelter, which was booming, partly with his own efforts, he believes that they protected it to a certain extent, and i talked to him, he said: that if it were not for them, it would have been, well, conditionally twice as bad. honestly, no one knows the objective picture, because these objects were built, well, very quickly, they were without dbgens, there were no projects, i know that for sure, you understand, that is, in essence, in essence, they fantasized as they went along , and what kind of structures these should be, how to build them so that they protect, and by the way, this is a separate conversation. how much money was spent on it, how efficiently was this money used? i will tell you that the accounting chamber, according to my information and my letters, because i wrote my appeal both to the sbu and to the accounting chamber, they are conducting an audit of the use of these funds, but as i learned today,

for some reason the results will only be in the summer, why so for a long time, no, i can’t even comment on how objective this audit will be, well yes... for some reason i am so sure that it cannot be objective in today’s conditions, it is clear that these these works were are very secretive, and there was no free access there not only to journalists, but also to deputies, i will reveal a secret to you, therefore , in an environment of such secrecy, secrecy, well, we have to either believe that they are doing the right thing, or not believe at all , i'm sorry here, let each one for himself draw his own... palette , something like this, you already mentioned the most massive strikes that took place in march and we started with that, on march 22 there was one of the most massive shellings since the beginning of the war, about this was said by the minister of energy herman galushchenko on the air of the telethon "endi

news", according to him, earlier the enemy acted more locally, let's listen to what glushchenko said, they constantly attacked the energy industry in the winter, but they... we then changed tactics, they were more local, that is, choosing certain regions and trying to knock them out with the goal of primarily affecting industry, so today i think they're just scaling up these attacks that they've been doing over the winter on the entire state to achieve a total blanket. general director of yasno, serhiy kovalenko, said that dytek group, the largest private energy company in ukraine. in the last complex attack by russia on the night of march 21-22 lost 50% of its generating capacity, the dtek ee group says that they officially confirm this, and we all know which nodes were damaged and so on,

he said on the air of the telethon, well , taking into account the damage that our energy system received and the scale, mr. oleksiy, how much will be needed in order to either renew or create some alternative, alternative energy generators, because ukrenergo. says that these substations have these, are there power plants, there must be a lot of them in different parts of ukraine, i understood that these are probably steam generator stations that also generate electricity, and maybe some portable power plants, what are they talking about when they say that there may be hundreds of such stations. mr. serhiy, i would like to say one simple thing for everyone right now, we can tell each other a lot, by the way, well who will understand, today i became so in

the epicenter of such an interesting event, because yesterday i was on the air of a telethon, and my colleague gerus told such good, such and such fairy tales for the future about how everyone will build their own solar station, batteries will be built, this is such a good fairy tale for the future, you know there are years for, well, i don't know for 5-10-15, today we have to discuss. but practical things, here now and today, what should we do in order to prepare for winter, and that is why i am answering you, or rather not you, i am asking a question to the authorities, the government, the ministry, the president's office, the government, everything that you have done in the past year, please show how much such distributed generation was done in the last year, well, show at least one station that you did in the last year and... then we will talk about what we can manage to do this year, it has been done, conferences,

presentations are good, the words, slogans are correct, nothing has actually been done, unfortunately, nothing in this regard, so i proceed from the fact that first of all we need to think power engineers, how to repair what can be repaired, and here one must listen with all due respect to kovalenko. mr. yasno, kovalenko is a subsidiary company, they trade in six regions, here you should listen first of all to mr. timchenko and sakharuk, these are the heads of dtk, they announced today that they estimate approximately 260 million, million dollars to recover, half of they are ready for this amount themselves, they found it, and for this, in order to restore the destroyed facilities somewhere in the eye, somewhere and... it will be necessary, well, by the summer, as i already said, but it will not be completely restored, because they have very serious

there is damage at two stations, i don't want to say which ones, you understand, so first of all , the energy workers need to think, think about how to recover and make some structures together with the builders, but we don't need to fool each other, 90% of ukraine's energy security is work ... of our system against air defense, 90%, if these objects are not protected with air defense forces, i.e. additional patriots, then what can the enemy do to them, unfortunately, while there are enough tu-95 missiles and planes and migs and ships from which they are launch these missiles, you see, and that is why president zelenskyy is very active in high-pitched voices, but now... he is appealing to the united states of america, to congress, to the president, begging, give us 5-7 patriots,

and we will really close today, at least our facilities, i'm not saying that we need to save kharkiv, you see what 's happening there, and the sumy region, because they are being torn apart, first of all, kharkiv is being torn apart today, that's why the main problems today lie in the military plane , and the power engineers will do their work, i'm for you i guarantee zelenskyy stated that ukraine needs 25 patriot systems, 6-8 batteries each, to completely close its territory from enemy air attacks. let's listen to what zelensky said. there is a ppu system in the world that can help. all that is needed is the political will for these systems to be transferred to ukraine. i thank those countries that have already helped and are active in doing so. this is the personal responsibility of our diplomats who work in areas and countries where

the necessary systems are in place. right now, the patriots are in the right place in ukraine, so that later they do not have to be used at least on the entire eastern flank of nato. well, mr. oleksiy, you mentioned the history of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, when the general director of magat, raphael grosi, for... that at least three direct hits to the main structures of the protective shell of the zs reactor took place on sunday, andriy yusov, a representative of the gur of the ministry of defense of ukraine, said in a comment to ukrainian pravda, that... ukraine is not involved in any armed provocations on the occupied armed forces. russian strikes, in particular simulated strikes on the territory of the ukrainian nuclear plant, as well as deploying troops and weapons there, mining objects with nuclear weapons, has long been a known and permanent criminal practice of the occupiers. russia must withdraw its troops from all facilities at the nuclear power plant, only this will allow the restoration of compliance

with all necessary international norms and control over an important nuclear energy facility. yusov is right, the president is right, everyone, all our representatives of the ukrainian state are right, but the world is watching how the russians hold the zaporizhia nuclear power plant, that is, it is nuclear terrorism, they seized someone else's nuclear facility, grosii arrives, they meet him there, they say, we are glad to welcome you to russian land, we will protect you here, and he thanks everyone there for the fact that he is protected there, how not... there is security in ukraine, that nuclear weapons objects can become, including objects for strikes by the russian occupiers, or could this lead to three or four chernobyls? look, at first it's true, because now the russian side is already accusing us, i can tell you, once it was beneficial, i don't see

any reason why it would be beneficial for ukraine. side, well, it does not exist, you understand, therefore, i conclude that this is an imitation strike precisely in order to carry out this sabotage work against ukraine all over the world. in terms of safety, these reactors are very reliable, i.e. there is no risk from a direct hit, but there may be a risk from the effects of de-energization, i.e. there should be a permanent one. power supply for its own needs in order for the cooling system of even these reactors, which are sleeping today, to work, if this power supply is not available, it can really cause very serious consequences, this is what they are saying today and the minister and so on, money, well, let's not expect anything from him over the top, well, he acts within his competence,

especially since i will remind you that energo, rosatom... and russia is one of the very influential members of the magata, well, they continue to remain very powerful players in the nuclear market, in the market of nuclear fuel, both primary and reprocessed, as well as the construction of new units and so on and so on and so on, this is a very complex geopolitical construction , understood that we need to press as hard as possible on all fronts, diplomatic, social and so on. and the like, but unfortunately, there is a lot of money in this field in the world, well , let's be honest, as for president zelensky's assessment, i agree, because he says about the protection of the entire country, i refer to the fact that i, when spoke 5 minutes ago, i said about the protection of the most supercritical energy facilities, that is, for

the energy industry, to protect it, we really need five or six patriots there so that we can calmly, well... not worry about energy security, but kharkiv, sumy, odessa it is necessary to save, it really is, and for this you need a full-fledged air defense system. like the blows that have already occurred on tes and on hess, how will this affect the price of electricity, because our tv viewers are probably worried about whether this electricity will be enough, will there be any peak values ​​in the middle of summer, when will be but there will be more air conditioners there, probably people will be included in ukraine lost generating power, lost it in hydropower, it’s a pity, well, you understand, this is dniprogez, it was, well of course, before that there was kokhovska, now there were two more strikes on the dniester station on dniprovska, and this is a very serious loss for

us, children and the state thermal generation. also lost power very significantly, this is also very negative, now the weather is very good, the sun, that is, thank god , the solar panels are working, as many as they managed to build, despite the fact that in ukraine everything was done to prevent this from happening, you do you understand that the state has still not settled on green energy since the 19th year, and we, sorry, when there will be an analysis, i don't want it to be annoying now, then we will talk about who and what did in 19'. how did they prepare for the war in terms of energy, first of all, probably, when the russians and belarusians pumped electricity here, yes, that's what, you understand, which one? there was preparation for the war and so on, this is a separate conversation, i don’t want to provoke now, that’s why we lost, the sun is closing, it’s now, but we

actually take imported electricity every day, because we have our own deficit, and it will be, unfortunately , in summer, when there will be peaks, peak loads - this is when the air conditioner is turned on, when it’s hot, you know, and we will either have to take more, but the ability to cross it is limited there, it is limited to 1.5 gigabytes, that is, relatively speaking, we can take one and a half nuclear blocks, or we will restrictions are here, that is, there will be certain schedules, i expect it, and i’m sorry, i have to tell the truth, i see that the authorities, well, somehow the government officials and the same mps from the monocoalition are trying to somehow distance themselves from this, but i feel that now calculations are being prepared. as far as possible an increase in the tariff for the population, i feel it, and that is why i say, we will demand the justification of each comma, you understand, when

this issue will be considered, i, unfortunately, expect it, it is unpleasant, no one likes it, but i have this impression , that such an attempt will be made in the near future, so the situation is very difficult and... i want to say once again that the government and the energy bloc must take such authoritative, professional and balanced actions so that no one has any doubts that there this money, these tariffs are somewhere to the left, sorry, they are going down, because the population in this situation, one must trust the authorities and the conditional energy commissioner, whether we have it or not, well, the answer is the same, let everyone write it. is looking for himself, by the way, if it’s already gone, we, you understand, in the near future, on wednesday, there will be a law on mobilization, well, this is a separate issue, i think, and you are discussing, and we are all

discussing, and in this situation from one on the one hand , we would really like to trust our tsk, the military, yes, those who, but on the other hand, when we see another scandal, when they are chasing journalists or the boys there and so on, then i'm begging you, guys in the weather, please, you... behave so that society has confidence in you, confidence, this is a very key point that you have to ensure in this situation. thank you, mr. oleksii, for the conversation, this was oleksii kucherenko, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook, please subscribe to our pages, and take part in our survey, today we we ask about donations, will you donate to the armed forces. of ukraine? yes no. everything is quite simple on youtube. if you have your own opinion or your own comment, please leave it below this video. if you are watching us on tv,

please pick up your smartphone or phone and vote. if you donate to the armed forces, call 0800-211-381, no, 0800-211-382. all calls to these numbers are free. vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. our next contact is myroslav cheh. polish politician, public figure. mr. myroslav, i am you congratulations, thank you for joining our broadcast. good evening, congratulations. local elections were held in poland yesterday. well, of course, we heard about local elections in poland in the last 3 months in connection with the blocking of roads and the border with ukraine, because everyone said, well, poland is preparing for local elections, so in principle, probably, with this is related, and politicians do not want to influence farmers because farmers vote in local elections, and it is important that these political forces that count on these votes, that they received that as a result of yesterday's local

elections the poles received, i know that there will be a second round in some cities there regarding the presidents, it is correctly called a bridge in poland, and i think that there will still be elections in some communities or. the second round, could you please explain the specifics of polish elections and, well, in poland there are three levels of local self-government, and these were elections to all local self-government bodies, that is , united territorial communities, to district councils and to city councils, which are under the authority of the districts, there are 120 such cities under the authority of the districts, where they are more numerous. 100,000 50,000 residents, yes, the second is that there are more than 20,000 residents in local communities. inhabitants

, the heads of territorial communities are elected in two rounds, they are called burgomasters, instead , all others who are in communities below 20 thousand, who do not have city rights, a certificate of these united territorial communities, are called burgomasters, are called voyts, well, this is a historical specificity, the specificity of poland , so that the elections will be held, there are direct elections of city mayors, burgomasters, and mayors, even where they did not receive 50% and one in the first round vote, there will be a second, second round, their number is not so large, in the cities of ee in the 100 largest cities of ee by the number of population, according to my first round, somewhere more than 30 elected ee, if this shows fairly united territorial communities, large cities, and even more such small... communities,

in which there was only one candidate for the head of a united territorial community, four of them will become 2,800, so there are also such specifics, councils, regional councils, they were elected are called sejmikas in poland, this such a reflection of global political trends, parties there are measured by support, and in these elections , the opposition party, but the current ruling koala, received the right and justice for more votes. received the strong support of more than 52% of polish voters, so it shows that the support of the coalition of donald tusk, the prime minister, is stable, the elections of the mayor of warsaw were important, in which rafal chaskowski, the candidate of the civic platform, the prime minister, won donald tusk, well, it was such a race in his initial primaries as a candidate for me

on'. for the president in poland, in a year there will be presidential elections and rafal chaskowski seems to be the candidate of the civil platform and in this ruling coalition today, it is called what all the parties say that they won the elections, with the exception of maybe libya, which received the weakest result, 6.5% to those of the seiniks, but when analyzed, it can be said that the party preferences of the poles from the october 15 parliamentary elections have not changed significantly, they are the same, and the same, the ruling coalition confirmed her mandate of trust in society and for carrying out these changes, which began with her coming to power on the 13th with her coming to power on december 13 last year, the prime minister of poland, donald tusk,

commented on the results of the local elections and said that that law and justice is slightly ahead of his civil coalition, which is pleasing, tusk tweeted, systematic catch-up, seven points in 2018, five in 2023, two today record victory in cities, advantage in assemblies, worryingly low turnout, especially among the youth, defeat in the east and in the countryside, what is the conclusion for us not to whine? to work, you have already mentioned that there will be presidential elections, but there will also be elections to the european parliament in early june, and this is also probably important for poland, these will be elections for the political forces that represent poland and will be represented in the european parliament, but taking into account what

is being said in poland and... and whether these local elections are already a marker of such support, which will be in the elections to the european parliament and in the upcoming presidential elections elections? well, the conclusion from the local elections is that the turnout was a third lower than on october 15 during the parliamentary elections, that is , the turnout in october was 70, almost 5%, today it was 52%. that it shows that it was still not possible to mobilize people to mass participation in the elections, the turnout for the parliamentary elections to the european parliament is even lower, whether it will be like this in the month of june at the beginning of june, i do not know, we must hope that it will be quite high , because the rate is high, the specificity of the electoral legislation was such that less

less participation in elections. do na do miejskowych wyborach na