and everyone knows about this, a person who first, well , with his wealth, let's say, disgraced the service, and then, i suppose, he gave instructions to his employees in such a shameful way, like taking revenge on a journalist for an investigation, well, i don't know how for me it's just me, i don't know why it's because of communication and decision. moments of crisis in the sbu is bad, because, for example, as their alpha, their counterintelligence, we know that they do simply incredible things in the war, and well, they, well, i don't know, even on a level with the forces defense, or even sometimes in their special operations, there they compete with the gur, and when it comes to some rear work, well, it is the absolute opposite, it is some kind of...

shame that i don't know who gave the instructions, well, let's assume that apparently, the managers of a person similar to the one who works in the cyber security department of the security service of ukraine led the tsk employees by the handle and forced them to give the journalist who was doing an investigation about their leadership, this is one of the worst things against mobilization and for discrediting. by these russian bots, russian waves, and the other one, and to everyone else, in which we have been living there for almost six months, listen to anya, and what do you think, and to whom should i address such claims and questions that you voiced, because i often have to hear, and from you, maybe you too, about this, i may have written, but you are not the only one who has the impression that there are two different sbus, there is one absolutely desperate, heroic one, but you give examples of guys who

perform combat tasks there, and there are those who they get rich there, get dirty in a small way, and i have generally heard that these two services are almost never and nowhere intersect, well here at least i have skepticism, because they have at least one common leader, or am i wrong here, and they can have two different leaders, so how do you draw the line for yourself here? it is very difficult to conduct it, in principle i don’t think that we only have in... relatively speaking, two sbus, in principle, in parallel realities, we have all the state structures, and some structures of the public sector, business, and so on , because some of the people, well, that is , selflessly trying to fulfill their own his direct duty, or joins voluntarily there in the form of volunteering or in another way in order to, how to... get closer to

victory faster, and these people do not sleep much, these people there have almost no personal life, and there are people who in their own, well, their usual way, relatively speaking, they live life, but if these workers got used to living life during a full-scale war, and then there was also a war with russia, then they continue to do it in the same way, conditionally speaking which is known to them. absolutely the same similar cases in others structures, both state and non-state, but it's just that people there did not commit criminal acts on a full scale, they still do not do them now, i don't know, to be honest, i think that the line should be drawn, and mobilization should not be used as a punitive the tool is neither communicative, nor, well, in any way. because, well, i think that now

mobilization and carrying out mobilization is, in principle, the most important thing that should happen in the state, otherwise it will simply not matter who was there under the abyss of time, who lived here in kyiv and got rich in an inexplicable way, because, well, the front line will move further and further into the interior of the country, and that's why i'm about... i'm just not satisfied with the reaction of the head of the security service, because this is how this person manages the units that are heroically fighting for independence for us at the front, and manages those people who get rich illegally, then watch journalists, threaten journalists, and actually do this all night, but the fact is that i understand that before he was... appointed as the head, he conditionally,

was in the departments together with those in the rear employees who do strange things, well now he's more... engaged in the war, i think he needs to decide which part of the service he's with, because i think he's effective in his place in a lie, you 've got pay attention, now i'm drawing you like this, vasyl kid, yes, yes, yes, i'm insolent, i'm already evaluating the activities of the head of the security service, i believe that he is very effective, and from what i see, when he was appointed, as a person who - vyko, well, as a person departments. whose services perform combat tasks, and he cannot probably to say goodbye, i don't know, to people like shilo, like people who worked in the dzndd and carried out his instructions, as far as i know, not his, but one of his deputies,

well, actually like vityuk. hanna, look, well, it turns out that while the sbu is conducting a check on vittyuk, he will, as we have already said, be about the alleged. we don't really know where he will be, but the sbu said that he will be there in some combat unit on the front line, you say that it's a shame, and you're not the only one who says that, but where ideally is he in this the time must be, well, let's say, he should be released, or he should be suspended, but not sent to the front, which would satisfy you as a journalist and possibly society as a whole, well, from what i know, there is such a thing, there is this, some such method, which is called the type of sending. at the disposal or i don't remember exactly what it's called, that is , when a person, in fact, he is still serving, well , he is suspended, he is not engaged in any active work, but at the same time, well, he is not considered dismissed, and i am i understand that in at this moment, she is not paid her entire salary,

but there, well, that is, some kind of state security is paid, until, well, at some legal level, probably, well, for me , everything is clear in this story, i know that the prize. innocence, but that is, there are simply enough, and here's the thing, by the way, i don't understand why we all forgot a little bit about the tool of civil confiscation, because if it is difficult to prove that a person acquired property illegally, then there is such a tool as civil forfeiture when there is not enough evidence to punish a person a person, well, put him in prison, but it is enough for the person not to be able to justify his assets. and they are simply confiscated for the benefit of the state, now it would not be much, it would not be superfluous at all, especially now, because we have, well, holes in the budget, and this money can be directed to the provision of the same alpha, well, that is it would be possible to work more actively on zk and

sap in this matter, well, the services, well, i don't know, i don't think it's adequate to communicate that we 're sending it to our cool ones. specialists, which well who by their risk, and by the fact that i understand that there are also among them er-er dead, they prove with their lives, by risking their lives they prove their service to the state and, well, their efficiency and honor, well, and the type of taking a person with a dubious reputation sending it there is definitely the worst. what could be done , especially when he tried to use, not him, actually people, people from his, theoretically people from his department tried to use as a tool of punishment against the journalist, sending him to the armed forces, or

there to the defense forces, and then like, oh well we didn't send the journalist, so let's send the tycoon there, right away there is another side of the coin, and now there is a problem. it is very theoretical, because we will not find an answer to it, but how many people in ukraine, or institutions, or services can, so -called, keep any district tsc on short notice and call them, if it is necessary to resolve some of their personal or semi-personal issues, because in fact a person from vityuk's department tried to solve vityuk's personal issues there with the help of tsc, if you can say so, well simply. until we receive any, if there are any, and i hope they will be the results of the investigations, at which level these employees were involved, whether it was there, for example, some personal acquaintances of someone from the department, in the sbu, or was it an instruction

given there by the sbu and it happened at some official level, i think that we simply will not be able to, well, globalize this problem. it's definitely a problem, and it's, well, i mean, especially, the, well, the way it happened, it really undermines trust on a public level, and i, for one, i expected for myself, like how... citizen, that on the first day the first persons of the state from various departments will come out and condemn this case and promise, well , at least they will promise that we will see the punishment of the guilty when it is possible to establish them, but i do not, well, that is, i do not have an answer for myself, for example to the question of how exactly they recruited these tsk workers, i only want, if other workers see us there, er... military men, i know that many of them went through military service and

were then sent to serve there after the war injuries, and i deeply respect theirs, i i understand that they have a very difficult job, and at the same time i urge them not, well, not to succumb to any illegal instructions, and what was done is a massacre, well , that is, because it is selective. and well understand what it is that you are asked to commit a massacre against someone, conditionally speaking, if you do not go there in the entire district to serve summonses, which is absolutely normal, normal work there, and well, a specific person was conditionally ordered to you, so what and what these workers will be responsible for this, they are the ones, because it is unlikely, c it's just a matter of time, anya, but i thank you very much, i think i got the idea, anna kalyuzhna, the war correspondent of bigusinfo was there. radio liberty, thank you for staying with us, subscribe to the radio liberty page on the internet and until

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discussions, which news will be analyzed by the guests of the project this week and, in fact, who will be the guest of the studio, we will find out already this sunday, clearly, the topics will be relevant, the guests will be special, proper names with myroslava barchuk, sunday 17:10 at espresso. greetings, today is a story about two girls and one boy who go missing in the chaos of war at the beginning of a full-scale invasion of russia. all children who will be discussed from the temporarily occupied parts of the kherson region, these are snizhanna almagambetova, georgy burskyi and sofiyka vashchenko. snowyna is only 11 years old and nothing is known about her since february 24, 2022. a girl disappeared in skadovsky. kherson region in the city of gola prystan, and just 20

km from the bare pier in the city of oleshki in the kherson region, this 15-year-old boy lived before the war, his name is george burskyi. please look closely at his face, the teenager is missing, and maybe you will recognize him and help find him. just like snizhana and georgy himself of the beginning of the war also in the kherson region with... nine-year-old sofiyka vashchenko. the girl was last seen in the village of chaplinka, in the kakhovsky district. unfortunately, this is all the information there is about snizhana, george and sofia. and above all, the search is, of course, complicated by the fact that children have disappeared in the occupied territory, and by the way, it is in such situations that there is great hope for witnesses who, in particular, on social networks can see our videos about the search in the occupied territories, so i turn first of all to residents of the occupied part of kherson

oblast, if you know anything about snizhana almagambetova, georgy bursky and sofi'. kuvashchenko, please call us immediately on the hotline number 11630. if you are unable to call at any time, you can write to us on the website or in the chatbot of the child search service in telegram. of course, children can stay both in the occupation and in the territory controlled by ukraine or even abroad. therefore, if, for example, you live in one of the european countries and see it there. any of the children we are looking for or not god forbid, you yourself have a missing child, don't delay and call 11630. 11630 is the only european missing children hotline that works in 28 european countries, so remember, better write this number down, so you never need it , but

it is necessary to know it just in case. i only told about... one of the many difficult stories of missing children, information about all the boys and girls we are trying to find, you can see on the website of the children's tracing service. here are photos of children who have disappeared and need ours and you help, so please don't be indifferent, look at their faces, if you know any information about any of them, please contact us immediately, the hotline number of the child tracing service is 116. calls are free from all mobile operators in ukraine . it is clear that now the vast majority of the children we are trying to find have disappeared due to circumstances somehow related to the war. under occupation in front-line cities or villages, or during evacuation. but at the same time, as before a full-scale invasion, children often

disappear due to running away from home. mostly boys and girls resort to this. in adolescence, and the reasons here are very different: conflicts in the family, insufficient or, on the contrary , excessive, parental attention, bullying at school, unfortunately, violence, or the banal search for adventure, independence and freedom. the children's search service has prepared a series of advice for parents from a psychologist about the first things you should do to prevent a child from running away from home. let's listen. be attentive to yours. there are some manifestations in the behavior of children and adolescents, which indicate that we need to take more care of them, we need to take more care of them, what could it be? first of all, this is a disturbed sleep pattern, when the child goes to bed at three o'clock, gets up at 12 o'clock, this is definitely not good, it is definitely a reason to worry. further, it can be a depressed state, when the child is depressed most of the day for more than two

weeks, this is definitely a reason to take care of him. if you notice any memory problems. attention, with the child's productivity, this can also be an indication that she has some strengths negative experiences. if nothing brings joy to the child, satisfaction, if nothing makes him happy, this is also a reason to take care of him, to have some kind of warm trusting conversation with him, to support him, to help him, and sometimes to refer him to specialists, refer him to a psychologist or other specialists for help. you are watching the program of the ukrainian voice of america chas time, i am natalya leonova,

congratulations: the usa must continue to fulfill its part in common with europe, the burden to ... ukraine in its resistance to russian aggression. he stated this us secretary of state anthony blinken during a joint press conference with british foreign secretary david cameron as he arrives in washington on april 9. speaking about the problems in ukraine's need for international aid, the british minister said: "we know what they need, we know that if we give the ukrainians the support they deserve, they can win this war and achieve a just peace." anthony blinken added that the administration of the us president expects a corresponding vote from the congress, which returned to work after the easter break on tuesday. we also talked about the need to now provide assistance to ukraine in terms of additional ammunition, air defense and artillery. we both heard last

week from ukrainian foreign minister kuleba at the nato meeting about the immediate needs. both our countries are putting pressure on themselves and others to do this. and in this light, the request for additional budget funding that president biden made to congress is urgent and extremely not. chamber representatives returned to the meetings, we expect that this document will be brought to the house of representatives for consideration and voted on as soon as possible. we 'll talk more about the prospects of congress approving aid to ukraine with our congressional correspondent kateryna lisunova, who joins us from the capitol building. congratulations katya. even before the easter break , speaker johnson promised that he would move on to considering the issue of aid to ukraine right after. return, at what point is the congress now in the issue of financing ukraine? in general, aid to ukraine is currently stuck in a deadlock between political and procedural disputes. yes, speaker

johnson, as she incorrectly noted, said in the last week before the recess that the lawmakers would proceed to aid ukraine immediately upon their return, that is, now. at the same time , the speaker is currently refusing to vote on the draft law on aid to ukraine, which has already been voted on in the senate. he insists on an alternative option. who would provide assistance to ukraine in debt. he noted that similar statements are also about donald trump also voices ukraine's debt aid. there are also several petitions in the house of representatives that demand to vote on aid to ukraine bypassing the speaker, but none of them have yet received the necessary 218 signatures. so, with such events , the issue of ukraine, in particular, is now being returned to the congress for consideration. katya, what are the current moods in the congress regarding aid to ukraine, what are the latest statements. legislators and what is most important for ukraine, what terms are we talking about? the senate, in particular, returned a day earlier, and already yesterday the leaders, as democrats and republicans in the senate once again called on the house of representatives

to approve their senate version of aid to ukraine, and both democratic and republican leaders, mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer, in particular, called on the speaker to do so and start considering aid to ukraine already this week. i suggest listening to their latest statements. the main reason why ukraine is now losing the war is that the extreme right in congress has paralyzed the work of the united states. this is the main reason. speaker johnson must decide for himself whether he will do the right thing for ukraine, america and democracy, or allow the magyar republicans to hand putin a great victory. i am convinced that if the speaker simply brings up the senate bill for additional funding for national security, it will be voted on. remains the best, fastest and most realistic way to provide the necessary assistance to ukraine. i continue to press for long overdue

steps to approve additional defense appropriations and additional national security funding for which the senate voted earlier this year. japanese prime minister kishida, who will visit washington this week and address a joint session of congress, said last week that ... russia against ukraine is shaking the foundations of the international order and that japan will continue to cooperate with ukraine. as for the terms, the experts name the next, subsequent dates, in particular, by the end of april or the beginning of may , they can complete the review of aid to ukraine, but here it is worth noting that everything depends on the form of the draft law on aid to ukraine that will be put to the vote. if it will be a senate bill, it will be approved as soon as possible, because in fact. in order to approve it, all that remains is to put it to a vote in the house of representatives and then it will be signed by the president. at the same time, if we are talking about the speaker's alternative bill, then i can still write it, create it, then

vote it in the panel of representatives and then go to the vote in the senate, and i will note that this way this bill will last longer, and now everything depends on , what the speaker will say this week about what will be his, what will be his plans for this week and whether they will immediately ... proceed to the consideration of aid to ukraine. katya, the british foreign minister, david cameron, is currently visiting washington. the day before, he met with former president donald trump in florida. one of the topics of his meeting is aid to ukraine. cameron also plans to discuss this issue with congressional lawmakers. can the visit of a british diplomat somehow affect this process. in particular, cameron stated that also wants to meet with the speaker of the house of representatives, michael johnson, and... also talk about aid to ukraine, but it is difficult to say whether his visit will actually affect the legislators and the processes in washington, especially in the pre-election year in the united states

of america, because it is worth it. .. to note and remind our viewers that this is not the first and most likely not the last visit of western representatives of western states, representatives of democratic states to washington in the recent period, in particular since the fall of last year, when during their visit, official from their country, the main topic is also called the appeal to the congress to approve the aid to ukraine, in fact, this depicts the trend of actual pressure in europe now. to the united states of america so that they agree to help ukraine, and this actually changes the situation a little now, because if earlier the united states of america pressured europe to continue or increase aid to ukraine, then the situation has actually changed and now europe is pressuring or calling on washington continue aid to ukraine. we hope it is will happen very soon. thank you, katya, for your work on the prospects of congressional approval of aid to ukraine, we spoke with our

congressional colleagues. russian political technologists and internet trolls launched a campaign to discredit ukraine in order to stop the us congress from approving aid to kyiv. thousands of fabricated news articles, social media posts and comments promote american isolationism, create fear for the security of us national borders, and increase economic and racial tensions in the country. he writes about it the washington post, which gained access to... points of eu intelligence. my colleague tetyana vorozhko researched this topic. she joins our studio from the chapter house. congratulations. congratulations, tanya. congratulations. tell us about this washington post investigation, how this campaign to discredit ukraine works. who is it aimed at and what narratives are the russians trying to promote? well, actually, this publication is based on more than 100 documents shared with journalists by one of the european intelligence agencies. country own, and not called, these documents

are dated. from may 2022 to september 2023, and it is about the work of the kremlin, let's say, agencies connected with the kremlin, in particular, it is connected by the social design agency, it is possible that other forces and other structures are involved in order to create this is exactly the campaign to spread anti-ukrainian narratives, here, on the one hand, how their narratives, their disinformation were created, dozens of trolls and translators worked there, and they were primarily targeted. as to what ukraine is a corrupt country, that money is spent there on yachts, on houses, there is absolutely false information about the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, and that it is allegedly impossible to track how money is spent, weapons, everything there, that is, it is all such a black hole, ukraine was shown, and on the other hand, on the other hand , messages that appeared actually appeared, or were created by the americans themselves,

part of the far right, the republican party, were also promoted and spread , but they, let's say, spread and were promoted by this internet, this internet agency, these, this , this campaign, and these messages belong here, well, they created them as well, and that the situation at the border is very bad, and that everything is a very bad economic situation, high inflation, well, in general, the company's goal was to create such an environment, it is documented in documents, when americans are not ready to sacrifice their comfort because of the conflict in ukraine. tanya, what exactly are the mechanisms and methods used by the russians for the implementation of this disinformation campaign? well, first of all, these messages were simply created, these messages, it is very difficult to understand who you are communicating with, for example, on social media, on x, whether it is a russian or an american, which were spread through social networks, including, except well-known american, ukrainian networks, also on trof social, well, but also other networks, i talked with the researcher of the atlantic

council, and actually, as he explained to me. how does it work? something published on some small website by russians or by one account is picked up by a telegram channel, already more influential in the russian telegram, it is then translated into english, tweeted by the user, with links to unknown sources in the telegram, and this in english circulates perfectly on english-speaking twitter. and there is also this... there is also talk about the duplicate operation, when duplicate sites of well-known mass media are created, which are very difficult to distinguish from real sites, the only thing is that it all looks the same there, but we are already the only article that distinguishes it very negative for ukraine, and to see that it is not a real fake website, you can only by carefully looking at its address, well, these sites in fact...