zeros, they shake, they show, you see, burisma financed these terrorists, this million rubles, they were supposed to take from kyiv, these tajiks who were traveling in this unfortunate car from moscow, what do you think, this is what they are already entangling biden , and biden's son before that, it is designed for the domestic consumer exclusively, do they still think that some countries there, well, i don't know, the global south or there, maybe others. states that they can perceive this information as serious, in addition to convenience, because this is burizma indeed, perhaps this is one of the last known cases when the united states crosses over into ukraine, well, very seriously, and what can be used by the russian federation, that’s how they weave these tajiks, you rightly said about a million rubles, i’m just curious, and you them well, it's completely understandable, this is such rhetoric, but where did they try to find these million rubles in kyiv, well, well, a million euros? you can find

a million dollars, you can find a million rubles, well, of course not, well, where can you find those in kyiv, well, there are none, not even in an antique shop, it is unlikely that you will find it, because they burned everything there, that is the question, here they somehow intersect these united states, they are behind all this, and here ukraine, why are you interested in ukraine, here is hunter biden, that is, it all fits together, i think it's working now for the election against the incumbent president joseph biden and in favor. donald trump, i think, in this way the russians are trying to play along and so that it affects the electorate in the united states, you see something, here you see, this is how they work, because they commit terrorist acts, here they finance ukraine, ukraine is a terrorist, on a par with idol, and biden supports idol and supports the terrorist government of ukraine, so you should vote for another candidate. thank you, mr. ivan, for the conversation, it was ivan stupak, a military expert. former employee

of the security service of ukraine. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. subscribe to our platforms, participate in our voting. today we ask you about the following: do you consider the channels of the single telethon strategic for the economy and state security. why we ask about this, i repeat throughout our program, so that there are no different interpretations. because they booked the employees of the united tv channels. marathon from mobilization to the armed forces of ukraine, referring to the fact that a single telethon is strategic for the economy and security of the state, do you think that these channels are strategic for the economy and security of the state? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you pick up a smartphone or phone and watch us on tv, then for you have special numbers: yes 08021381, no 08021382. calls to these numbers are free,

call, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next , ihor reiterovych, political scientist, head of political and legal programs of the ukrainian center for social development, will be in touch with us. mr. igor, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our conversation. congratulations. well, actually, here is our survey, which i am asking now, in which i am asking the tv viewers, viewers to take part. it concerns mobilization. 2024, tomorrow the verkhovna rada of ukraine should start consideration of the law on mobilization in the second reading, more than 400 amendments, i do not know which part of these amendments will be approved, which will not be approved, obviously tomorrow the head of the parliamentary profile committee will report to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, but this mobilization law, which will be considered by the parliament, it will be a challenge for president...

zelensky and it will be a challenge for all of ukraine, because after this the rules of mobilization and demobilization must change or be regulated in ukraine, and this order will affect, probably, 95% of all men who will be recognized as suitable and the status of limited suitability will be transferred to suitable. how do you assess the prospects for the adoption of this law, because it can be... compared to the constitution of ukraine, well , such a fundamental law that will determine a lot of things that will affect the future, the present, but also the future of ukraine. what do you say, watching the news reports and what is happening around this mobilization law, is there a prospect that this law will be passed? i i think that sooner or later it will be adopted, the key question here is when exactly it will happen. as of today, the situation

is quite sad because, as far as i know, those attempts to establish communication between the president's office and, above all, the monomajority, they have not been proven. there is still up to the logical conclusion, and a large part of the deputies are the servants of the people, they do not yet know how they, well, they will participate in the discussion of this draft law, put forward, perhaps, some of their wishes or claims, vote there or not vote for amendments, but whether they will be ready to finally vote for it already in the second reading, for now this question is open, because there are several principled positions that will be decided on a whim. and be decided directly in the session hall, while the president's office tried to actively work with various groups that are in the parliament, including within the monomajority itself, in order to gather the necessary number of votes and have an understanding that there, for example, in a week, in two, this draft law will be

voted on, here you understand, there is another such nuance, voting for it, and in the possible, well, the nearest period, it is also strategically important from the point of view of those processes that... are addressed in the united states america, because a certain number, for example, republicans, they, well, not on camera, but some on camera, say that we first want to see what will happen with the law on mobilization in ukraine, after that make a decision to finally allocate or not to allocate help, if so, so that it did not come out it's a strange situation that we're your money and you're not doing the things that should be important to you, so in that context, well, i'm definitely predicting quite a lot of, you know, serious work and... one work directly in the session hall, maybe even with certain attempts to somehow block the platform, to bring some issues, well , as much as possible into the informational, public space, to speculate somewhere on some specific issues, and then finally reach some agreement on some compromise option, but at the same time

there remains one more important point, which is related to the fact that there is a possibility that even if this law is considered and then voted accordingly in the verkhovna rada, the president... for example, can veto it, well, because he will see , that he does not enjoy any support in the society there at all, he will draw attention to some points there, well, the most odious ones, and will demand from the parliament to change them, why this will happen, because today, and this, by the way, is noticeable even on some according to the statements of representatives of people who are close to the government, who are engaged in information support of the government's activities, they have not decided who and how will communicate with society about this law, the president, judging by... the interview, will not take final political responsibility . he said that this is the prerogative of the verkhovna rada, but many deputies in the verkhovna rada do not like this story, and i think that it can be the very reason for delaying the consideration of this draft law, or voting for it.

you know, in a very neutered form, which in turn may not please, for example, the armed forces of ukraine, who wanted to see there, let's say, one solution, yes. they will see the fact completely differently, which will directly affect the pace and quality of the mobilization that will be carried out in the country. the qualitative pace of mobilization can and can be influenced by some stories that appeared literally before the consideration of this draft law in the second reading in the council, for example, the handing over of subpoenas to a journalist of slidstvo-info, and which... conducted investigation into the head of the cyber security department of the sbu, ilya vytyuk, and one of vytyuk's subordinates brought two tetskashniks and showed who should be served with a summons, they approached our

colleague right in the trading hall and began to hand him a summons, today it became known that ilya vytyuka, who was head of the department. the cyber security of the sbu, if any, was sent to the front today, where he will perform special tasks together with the alpha unit, the head of the information investigation agency, anna babinets, said. i remind you that vytyuk, writes anna, is a figure in our investigation about elite property in pechersk, as well as a person who wanted to take revenge on the slidstvo info journalist with a subpoena. now he himself went to the front, punishment by war, as it is, punishment by war in quotation marks, of course, and today... it became known that the head of the solomyansky tsk in kyiv, whose employees tried to hand the journalist a summons ordered by the sbu, was transferred to a lower position in one of the combat units of the armed forces of ukraine. obviously, obviously, these stories in

one way or another will be repeated, and somewhere this story will gain publicity, somewhere this story will not gain publicity. how much mobilization, which, i repeat once again, will obviously affect 95% of all men in ukraine, how much it will affect... society, the temperature inside society, you have already said that zelensky can at some point veto this law and to say that you are listening, the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted the wrong law, shmygel submitted the wrong law, and i as the supreme commander-in-chief, i believe that this should not happen, uh, the probability that this will happen is high, well, it is high enough now, why, because there is really an ambiguous perception of this bill in society in general. about mobilization, and this ambiguity rests on two things: firstly, why did they start making changes

to the mobilization legislation so late in general, and two years before that they said that everything was under control and there was no need for such a new mobilization, and the second point, well that's really the question justice, this story, which you mentioned with the handing over of the summons to the journalist, and then with sending the people who were involved in this story somewhere to the front, it is clear, it has a negative effect on mobilization processes in the country in general, and punishment by war , well, in quotation marks there, or as a punishment of being sent to the front, but this is an absolutely unacceptable situation, or there is a transfer to some lower position, well , it seems to me that if a person is involved in a certain scheme, which may contain signs of certain corruption or carrying out the orders of those who has nothing to do with this, well , what does the sbu have to do with, for example, territorial assembly centers, well, they can only be related if they are investigating some state case, for example, treason, in everything else they cannot give such orders , well, it

should probably end with specific cases in general, and not with a transfer to some other position, and of course citizens are watching all this, then they look at history, you asked the question at the beginning, and for tv viewers, dear the reason for the reservation of employees there for the telethon and so on, and so citizens are watching all this and they have a lot of questions, why in manual mode is the delivery of these subpoenas or the determination of those who fall under the reservation, who does not fall under reservation and many other such issues, and this really creates this threat that the president, seeing in the end what it all leads to, and that he will be responsible for it, bringing him some results of sociological polls, no matter how he tried to avoid this topic, that's all one thing is to finally sign the law, and he is the supreme commander in chief, he will be shown there that this will affect the trust rating there very much, he will lose... some 15-20 or maybe more percent, and he will have a really certain temptation, just

block this decision, by the way, it will be a very bad story, because objectively , we need new rules for mobilization or rationing of those that were before, it just has to be done in an adequate way and not cause rejection among citizens because of a certain injustice there or because of certain problems that arise there, so the only thing we can hope for is the law. it will pass through the crucible of the verkhovna rada, indeed , some odious things will be removed there, and at the exit we will receive a more or less adequate document, which, uh, well, will not cause any special reservations, primarily from the citizens of ukraine, but look , at the same time, we have to deal with other things, that's how this morning the prime minister instructed everyone to review enterprises, there is the issue of reservations and so on, then it should have been done much earlier, and it should be done... as publicly as possible, in order to form a certain system of criteria that will be the same for everyone, that

will be understandable, that will be public, citizens will clearly know who works where, who can count on this reservation, what percentage, and there will be no questions, and why one person is taken away, and another person is not taken away, although they are in absolutely equal conditions, and by the way, the question connected with the same journalists, it problematic is problematic for one simple reason, if... you consider tv channels, for example, strategic such, well , enterprises, i, for example, believe that journalists should in principle fall under all this, then this should be extended to absolutely all journalists there tv channels, leading tv channels, partially regional tv channels, and so on, that is, all of them , yes, all of them, not only those that are in the marathon, but also those that could and should be there on their own by ratings, including there, for example, from espresso, but them they just didn't take it there for some reason, then if you already introduce such criteria, then... "please spread them to everyone, and this would then remove certain doubts and certain dissatisfaction among ukrainians. so far this has not

been done, maybe some changes will be made there, but i am afraid that these changes will be made solely as a result of the active activities of public activists, journalists, there, well, and all those who are not indifferent to these matters, who will demand the observance of some basic justice. here about justice, who when we talk about the law on mobilization and justice, we are talking about..." first of all, regarding those people who are at the front and the order of demobilization or rotation of the military on the first line, not only on the first line, in general in the armed forces of ukraine. that's how the information came in. ukrainian pravda, citing its sources in the committee on national security and defense, recently wrote that the committee excluded the provision on the demobilization of the rotation of military personnel from the government draft law at the request of sirskyi, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, that these issues

of demobilization and rotation will be submitted to a separate draft law, and this is also probably an issue... that will concern absolutely everyone, both those who are already in the armed forces of ukraine and those who will be mobilized. this whole story with this law and with failed communication, it shows that, well, as a result, there can be quite serious dissatisfaction. you are right about the fact that there is information that the employees of the channels that enter the only one have appeared. marathon yesterday they spoke in the ministry of culture that the representatives of the traveling circus were also booked there, that they would not be mobilized, that is, what are the criteria for the fact that circus employees can be booked, employees of bandurist chapels, for example,

cannot be booked, that is and those and those go to the front, and those and those are occupied. art, maybe this is also very important for ukrainian society now, in your opinion, who should communicate with society at this critical moment, since we heard zelensky's statement, he says, we are convincing the verkhovna rada of ukraine, well, the verkhovna rada of ukraine is zelensky's monomajority, that is , who is he convincing in this case? you see, the cabinet of ministers and the minister of defense should communicate first of all, since they are the subjects of the submission. of this draft law, then to some extent the representatives of the specialized committees that consider this draft law should actively communicate, by the way, they do it best, that is, they still make these comments from time to time and at least try to answer some questions there, but globally, of course, the main communicator in this process, with all due respect, should be the president of ukraine, the supreme

commander-in-chief, not the military, you understand, the military, they have already communicated, they said... they said what they need, and what will be the mechanism, there are not enough of them i am interested, by the way, in this story that you mentioned about the exclusion of demobilization and the fact that it was done on the initiative of syrskyi, well, you see, syrskyi in this regard was probably more helpful than the previous commander-in-chief, which he could voice his opinion, but he explained that it should not be a military decision at all, but the decision of those people who are responsible for mobilization, that is, the verkhovna rada and the supreme commander-in-chief, you see, if the president simply addressed, spoke... before the ukrainian people and turned to the verkhovna rada and said that there is a critical situation, we urgently need a law on mobilization, please vote for it in the version that was submitted taking into account some key amendments, and i urgently need it immediately i will sign as for example, biden says, yes, about the budget, when they temporarily vote, as soon as you vote on it, i will immediately

sign it there, that is what the president would do, i think that then there would be no special issues with the adoption of this law, the verkhovna rada would it... was accepted and there was no need to communicate, understanding that the president, as the supreme commander, takes responsibility for what will be in this law, how the mobilization will take place in general, so here it is actually a very simple situation, and by the way, in the present the mobilization legislation clearly defines that the main person ultimately responsible for mobilization is the head of state, but now they want to change it to some extent, but you need to communicate, they will not get anywhere, the deputies alone are not the story. all the more so against the background of the ratings of trust that are in the verkhovna rada, and the president, who has a reserve of this trust, should not be afraid to take this responsibility upon himself, really understanding the criticality of the situation and the need for this law as a whole for ukraine, well therefore, this week will be decisive in this regard, i also imagine what kind of wave will rise in relation to the issue of demobilization of a new draft of a law, a separate

draft of the law, so perhaps the president should go out, pay attention to this and say that we must let's bring it to a logical conclusion... and the question of demobilization or rotation, they will be spelled out, spelled out in great detail, and they will contain fair criteria that will not cause special reservations on the part of our military, especially those who are on front from the first minutes of the large-scale russian invasion. mr. igor, thank you for participating in the program, it was igor reiterovych, political scientist, head of political and legal programs of the ukrainian center for social development. friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube platforms. welcome to facebook, today we are conducting a survey during our broadcast and we are asking you whether you consider the channels of the united telethon strategic for the economy and security of the state (94%). yes 8%, 6% no, this interim survey results, stay with espresso. there are discounts on zip-elor,

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social networks, in particular on youtube, i must to apologize, because in the first part of our program we did not quite correctly give the results of the television poll, the interim poll, i hope that now the editorial team will give the correct numbers, because today we are asking you about... about whether you consider the channels of the united telethon to be strategic for the economy and security of the state? 6% yes, 94% no, these are the correct relevant results of the poll that we're doing on tv today, and the same poll we're doing on youtube, i'll tell you right away that we're going to talk a lot today about what, well, first of all about mobilization, today in the issue. softened mobilization. the verkhovna rada is preparing a controversial bill for the second reading: will evasion of

the draft be punished with prison? critically important enterprises: the ministry of culture banned from the army workers of circuses and a single telethon, without which branches of the economy ukraine really cannot survive. global peace summit and kremlin ultimatums. representatives of 100 countries will discuss ending the war in ukraine in switzerland. is peace with russia possible? about this and other things let's talk for the next 45 minutes. i will remind you once again that during this broadcast, we are conducting a survey, asking you about the following: do you consider the channels of the united telethon strategic for the economy and security of the state? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, write your comment under this video. video, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote yes, 0800 211 381, no 0800 211 382. all calls to

these numbers are free, please vote. i would like to introduce today's guests, this people's deputies of ukraine. iryna gerashchenko, people's deputy, member of the verkhovna rada committee on foreign policy and interparliamentary cooperation, former commissioner for peaceful settlement in donbas, mrs. iryna, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening. deputy of ukraine by voice, member of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, deputy head of the permanent delegation of the verkhovna rada to the nato parliamentary assembly, ms. solomiya, good, not yet, ms. solomiya, we are waiting for inclusion, and mykhailo tsymbalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine from the batkivshchyna faction, first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on social policy and protection

of veterans' rights, lieutenant general. mr. general, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast. i wish everyone good health. well, first of all, ms. iryna and mr. mykhailo, since we ask our tv viewers about this and viewers, whether they consider the channels of the united telethon strategic for the economy and security of the state, this question is explained quite simply, the government and the ministry of culture have reserved. workers of the channels that are included in the single telethon from mobilization, referring to the fact that they are strategic for the economy, the security of the state, do you think that these channels are really strategic for the economy of the security of the state, do you understand the motives of the mobilization or the grounds or criteria moreover, why exactly are these channels reserved, and other television channels are not, ms. irena, well...

apparently, the president's office lives according to the principle of louis xiv: the state is me, if they think that the state - it's me, it's obvious that for them, it is a strategic enterprise for the state, the marathon, because today the marathon works as a free propaganda channel for banking, for the office of the president of holding, which does not inform about the war, but rather works as such a propagandist in... power, asking those topics that primarily necessary for a positive image of the bank, it was marathon and bankova that essentially failed, for example, the same information campaign regarding recruiting and mobilization, and you know, this is also strategically dangerous, i believe, on the contrary for the state's history, because it is not enough that the marathon costs taxpayers

uah 2 billion. every year, propagandists from the 1+1 channel work there with state funds, they work there, for example, on the freedom channel, we have now prepared a request to the ministry of culture, so-called journalists who received diplomas in the dpr, the so-called dpr, and, sorry, worked for it a terrorist group, journalists from the pool of the medvedchuk channel work there, and it is obvious that the authorities, which are going to remove demo cars today. tion from the law on mobilization, at the same time shows that for her that propagandists are more important than the military, we are categorically against this. thank you, mrs. irina, mr. general, what do you say about the criteria and who should be there in this, in this list, and what are the criteria, who should be reserved, if we are talking about a new draft law and a new law about

mobile maybe it was necessary to wait for the adoption of this law, and then, well, so that everything was transparent, clear, and no one had any unnecessary questions. what some call the improvement bill mobilization, i have not found there yet, although we have not yet seen the final version, in any way, how and who and whom will be booked, this is firstly, secondly, in the state there is no... it is also in order that today the prem if something there declares that he demands fair, just reservation of certain posts, then this is a funny story, he should have learned to answer by now, and this is his problem as the head of the executive branch of government, why has he not yet proposed the rules of the game in in this direction, if we talk about journalists, then, in my opinion, it is journalists today responsible for the information fund, security.

and it should apply.