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earthquake in the president's office, a number of leading specialists, in different positions, with different biographies, different histories of relations with volodymyr zelenskyi, were removed from their positions, this matter was preceded by the resignation of the secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine oleksiy danilov, well, some explanations were given in connection with the transfer to a more, so to speak, suitable position, well... the head of the diplomatic mission in moldova, well, actually, i do not perceive it as some kind of tsunami at all, it is something like a light spring breeze, trofimov, well, these are the people who led volodymyr oleksandrovich under the white hands to the pedestals of all olympians, so when it happened, it was in the era before yermakovsk, and before yermakov era it is ended a long time ago, and that is why i agree with those...

who say, not without reason, that in fact , with these decisions, yermak, like the cuckoo that laid, that is, yermak in the form of an egg, which at one time got to bank street, hatched and threw away all the others , here it is also important to understand that the heads of the president, they are of two categories, those who believe that they simply have to ensure his work, do not get in there... in front of the public, in front of the cameras, but do so that the president has the maximum a well-thought-out policy so that he is aware of what is happening, to provide him with versatile, multi-vector access to information, and there are others who believe that they are not the first, but also not the second, so the others, they always have, and it is very interesting, for example, i had three deputies, my viktor bologa's successor, there were already 11 or more of them, but yermak also has a dozen of them there now,

maybe more, and therefore, when these deputies are replaced, it means that it is definitely not zelensky's decision, because zelensky is quick, not most likely, but i know for sure that only yermamak communicates with the president, and apart from yermak, no one, especially some of his deputies, there are a dozen of them, they have nothing to do with bohdan, and most likely, zelensky trusted him the most as a friend. therefore, issues such as contacts with oligarchs are discussed by everyone, i.e. some very sensitive, intimate for president zelenskyi, the intimate issue in quotation marks was decided by the shefir, but the shefir left after that attempt, about which they probably already forgot about him, and in fact, i think , this could not have been yermak’s decision, but it should have been shefir’s and zelenskyi’s mutual decision, because well, this function simply disappeared during the war, but all these personnel reshuffles in...

they, i am sure, were initiated and controlled by yermak, and this is a very harmful structure for president zelenskyi, because he was, yes and remains in monopoly. yarmak from the point of view of who he meets, what information he receives, who can have access to him to zelenskyi, and among other things, this also explains the situation with the secretary of the national security council, because in the constitution of ukraine, the national security council is the body, the only body that is mentioned in the institute of the president, because there is no office, secretariat, administration of the president, nothing is said about it there, and the national security council is really the body that... the president, the president who believes in a collegial decision that wants to make policy, hear all the arguments there, this is the body that allows the president to gather at the highest level members of the government, politicians and anyone, really, whom the president considers

important and influential, and therefore those presidents who are inclined to collegial decisions, and we there were very few of them, they could use the national security council for... a better national security council was constructed then by volodymyr horbulin, and i worked with him, i tried to return that council format, but it is important to understand that the decisions of the national security council come into effect by presidential decree of ukraine, and if egos begin to be measured there, the head of the secretariat or the head of the president's administration and the secretary of the national security and defense council, the secretary of the national security and defense council always loses, because there were a number of examples when there were even some decisions there. formally approved at the security council, and this is it a large round table, there are many people who speak, someone takes minutes, well, somewhere there something is written as in the verkhovna rada, but the final document is issued by the presidential office, the presidential office, the presidential administration, and

therefore at some point, probably danilov has this happened because danilov went a little independent, not a little, but seriously into independent swimming, he was no longer interested there, he started working as a newsmaker. there and it was a matter of time, and it is obvious that on this, on this basis, he had problems with yurmak, because danilov most likely did not agree with his public statements there for the last six months and could be another source of influence on the president that yermak did not like, i think that this and besides that danilov was simply already there and he was fed up there to be, it was visible, mr. oleg, i would like to ask you, that is, the departure of shefir, the departure of trofimov? this means that the presidential communication with various, so to speak, certain directions will be somewhat narrowed, because the shefir is also a private direction, trofimov was responsible for that other regional policy, yes, if yermak has, i

don't know, i think there are 10 or how many deputies, well, that means that none of these deputies, i insist on this, really have nothing there does not affect, he cannot in... go one-on-one to a meeting with the president and convey his point of view to the president, the fair stands firmly there, that is, the structure of the office, where there are a dozen or more deputies, she says that the head of this service, he does not delegate anything to anyone, it's just like that, it's such a labyrinth, you know, a variety of different positions, people are responsible for something, but they submit all documents and all proposals to the head of the office, and he already... if he deems it necessary, he can give access to the body only in his presence there, or support one or the other idea, because if you delegate, well, there should be one or two deputies, and these deputies should really work, you should meet every day, as we did with all the heads

of divisions, and discuss the agenda, this is definitely not the case at the bank now, and therefore i share the point of view of those people who say that this is actually a strengthening or... such a reservation of the monopoly of the head of yermak's office on access to the president, well , there is nothing new here, we already had such people, we had tabachnik, we had him there medvedchuk, they all ended badly in the end, and both those people and those presidents around whom such a monopoly was created, because this monopoly can be called differently, you can call it a bubble, you can call it a bunker, when you really lose contact with the outside world , and when you is delegated by the president to... a lot, and the opportunity to check the quality of your analytics or, well, there is no one who can act as an alternative to some, well, i don't know, to critics or to offer some other options, and therefore this this this this this harmful formula, it, well look at the degradation of putin, there

is far to go, any president who freezes or ferments in the same environment, in the same place, he inevitably intellectually. politically degrades, or begins to make, so to speak, certain transformations, well, in particular, we remember, was bohdan, there is no bohdan and so on, there may be some kind of broader front. i don't know any changes, maybe consolidation, so we have a rate, we have an office, we have a national security and defense council, and maybe there will be some, i don't know, synergy. the second thing that worries me is the feeling that in our country, the key body, the verkhovna rada of ukraine, is somehow self-resetting itself, or is being reset to zero with the help of someone's will, so here is the rating, a sociological agency did a study, evidence of a drop in trust in the parliament, and at the same time we understand that there is... a decrease in trust and to of the president, that is, during the war, a decrease in trust is not good, it is a certain danger

and we remember very well how important functions the parliament has always been able to perform, our viewers or listeners, many of them will not agree, because well , they don't like our deputies, they call them viewers, call them whatever you want, because as for deputies, we haven't seen a single broadcast of the meeting of the president's office there. right, and we don't know much there about how the government works, maybe they'll show a few minutes of opening there cabinet, and the prime minister will say something, but we see a lot of stories, because the deputies have their own telegram channels, they conduct their own communications, there are just some public scandals, a lot of attention, and this attention is mostly positive for parliament, although i confirm that the entire turbulent history of ukraine in the most threatening times, when it seemed that our ship is now. ukraine will simply crash on the reefs, it was the parliament that acted as the navigator who led between

these reefs, i recently met a deputy i know there, and the main question, i i say that what oppresses you there the most, he says that it is the impossibility of actually going abroad, because it sounds very humiliating, a lot of deputies are really in order to implement their projects, i will not describe this project very much, but the project is absolutely normal, man. .. he is working on a project for ukraine, he needs to do it somewhere in the baltics or in warsaw, and then go to brussels somewhere, and he says that it is very humiliating, you have to stand in line there for six months to the speaker, to explain, and you will be released if you go to a conditional meeting in warsaw, and then you still go to brussels, then you will have to explain the reports there, because it is being investigated by the border guards, that is, this factor, which has already been talked about, turns out to be... for many unconscious deputies, because what do you influence then, well, you obviously don't influence the government,

because the president's office already does it all there, you 're not, you don't have a broadcast, you can't have any informational influence there, because the marathon there has a clear list of whom invite someone no, and as a result, many deputies simply do not see any sense in the fact that they are deputies, well, those who came to earn cannot earn, because there is someone to earn without them, they are simply... wiped off, you can only earn , if you give the lion's share to the main center of power there, and this is not the parliament, this is the president's office, that is, you have some schemes to interfere, this is also, this is also an amateur, and if you want to change something in the country, then you perfectly understand that you no one calls you anything, and zelensky's meeting with deputies, and that's already a lot of people confirmed that it was the president's monologue, and the deputies could not insert their 5 kopecks there, that is, the obvious crisis is such a thing. plus they don't see their future, usually, if you are a deputy, well, every politician wants

to see their political future, well, not everyone, but many who want to see their political future, here they don't see it, they definitely understand that most of them have none the lists will not get there, it is not known what will happen with the elections, in a word, they are demoralized, they do not influence the government, they do not influence the voters, they should or should do whatever they want they will say, or crawl there on your knees. so that, on the one hand, the parliament was not a serious competitive center, i don’t know, but on the other hand, it was an insurance center that could sometimes perform lightning rod missions, that is, we understand, there are unpopular decisions, collective responsibility, it is very often, you know smears this particular responsibility and, here we understand that a certain, i don't know, conscious or unconscious campaign of discrediting is going on, respectively. maybe it smells of one or the other electoral moments, although we understand that the constitution says no, it is the same thing that is wanted

and it stings, so it is obvious that let us remind ourselves that this is the first time we have a parliament in which the president had a single majority as a political force, we have never had this during the years of independence, and it is not the first time, the traditionally pro-presidential force, after a few years of the president being in... in office, it starts to rain, and the closer to the elections, the less influential it is, and it is already there competition for who will be the next presidential power, and here there are problems, because it is already clear. that the servant of the people as a brand has already served its purpose, it has no chance of repeating its success there, and for bankova street, on the one hand , i would really like to see some, well, young blood come, for example, if people started coming to the parliament from the list, it would be

guaranteed, in a normal political force, it would be guaranteed. but those people who are in the team, who are there, well, who share the ideology of the conditional party, but we know that for sure a third of the deputies are the current servants of the people, those who compiled those lists never thought in their lives that these people would get into the parliament, so there are a lot of completely random people, and you can afford the quality of those who are even lower there, because you just had to fill in there 400-50 or how many 300 people to give, and there was a lot of writing, so it's not a cut either. and and accordingly, none of the presidents, this is also not news, each of the presidents did not want to have a strong parliament, well, each of the presidents was annoyed by the parliament, they tried to control it, somehow to coexist, but it is a very difficult story, and there is shmyhal, and someone else may come instead of shmygal, or what do you think, are these

premature talks about replacing the head of the government, well, first of all, he is already a record holder, a prime minister. secondly, from those rumors out there, and this is what i believe, i believe that irmak sees himself as the prime minister at night, well, because he understands how much it is possible to follow zelensky a little to control everything everywhere, and such type of heads of secretariats, like yermak, baloga, tabachnyk, medvedchuk, all of them they had this vision that after, they understood that you can be in this position forever, for them it was a dream to become the prime minister. in my opinion, none of the heads of the administration became prime minister, but perhaps in the current conditions, yermak has such a dream, that is , such legalization would not be very beneficial to yermak, because then he would have to be really responsible for something, but now he is not for which he is not responsible, well, you haven't seen him take responsibility for anything, some there, he, he, he is not responsible, there is no

job description for him, we don't know, for what can you ask him, journalists write about the fact that he is such a personnel man, who is tall... he puts his friends on bread trade winds, but it will not end in anything, so whether it will be good for the country or whether it will change something, i do not know, well , because this will most likely lead to an inevitable conflict with zelenskyi, and again from the point of view of management, management will not improve, because i do not imagine yermak, but a collegial head of the cabinet of ministers, who will be there to listen, where they will have some meetings, to talk. some things, listening to opponents, i.e. cooperating with the parliament, it is very difficult with those individuals, look, but why exactly these changes took place right now in the spring, yes, that is, they could have happened, i don't know, three months ago, they could have been postponed for a couple of months, but it went, such a process started and it went quite quickly, although i say, i repeat, nothing portends the possibility or

prospect of the same parliamentary elections, well, the meeting of the president you already mentioned... with his faction, yes, well, she could be different, i don't know, warmer, more promising, that is, it would be possible to somehow show the great prospects of individual political development and so on, no, quite, quite, i would say so, it was tough, tough, and they could just the president had to give the deputies the opportunity to speak out, and it is very important for any politician to learn to listen, because a person who even has complaints against you, when... you start a dialogue, he somehow warms up internally, why in the spring? well, spring has come, it's time to plant, they don't plant, well, it means it's time to rearrange the styles, to change the awl for soap, i said this saying and thought that now, if you say awl for soap, then it is already overgrown with some additional meaning, fur, fur overgrown,

overgrown, because we already have there was another phenomenon that was very discretionary for... the sbu, well, that is, the sbu, which, the security service of ukraine, which never gave up fighting not with ukrainian business, but with domestic business, fighting with the enemy, does not leave, they cut this business regularly, and this fact, one of those facts that definitely does not speed up our european integration, but why in the spring, well, because, first of all, several things, president, i think that it started with those changes, well, in particular, the merit factor, i think. .. is very present here, well, because there have been some changes, the president began to speak, because there were expectations in society based on the results of the year, we are not having a very successful year, because if the year is successful, then... well, who would make these changes and since this is the price for the fact that you concentrate power, it is that you are responsible for everything, even for what you tangential, i.e. the rating of the president began

to slip, there was the resignation of a good man, there were other resignations, and there were also some reshuffles in the government of some ministers whom we have already forgotten, and the conversation about what we need now is the president, the president's office started to prepare public opinion for the fact that we now need to regroup, go to another level and show everyone... kuskinomat and therefore showing it without changes in the office was very strange, well, everyone understands that the center of decision-making, the real center of decision-making is on the street bankova, and they are changing some shooters there, and therefore it was already very logical, i heard conversations about the change of two advisers there since the fall, but the surnames of these two advisers were definitely different, there was a tatar riot, this is what was expected there, let's say at the institution, our partners and journalists expected that these were... the most odious, say, surnames, or the most scandalous, discredited surnames, but these people remained, which is why i started with the fact that there is actually no tsunami there, the key

players remained , but why in the spring, that's it somewhere there is such a certain cycle of reaction to the drop in ratings, i think that this team very carefully monitors the mood, they need to and, although it must be given credit that zelensky for his certain algorithm of the presidency... he is currently there in the last year of his presidency has the highest rating, in my opinion, of all his predecessors there, but it was necessary to do something about it, to demonstrate that it is not only about the ministers and deputies, but also about the structure of zelensky, he wants to show that he here also understands, infuses new blood, as president kuchma once said there, for a second term we will not see another kuchma. thank you very much, mr. oleg, these are extremely... an interesting and meaningful conversation. i want to remind our viewers that oleg rybachuk, former head of president viktor yushchenko's secretariat, co-founder of the

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did a pro-russian blogger spread fakes about ukraine? the technologies of the president's office are banal. but who in kherson organized the celebration in honor of the occupiers? russia is the motherland. greetings, i'm olena kononenko and this is the collaborator program. about the traitors who are after the colonel. hearts and wallets went to serve the rashi occupiers. our next issue is dedicated to ensuring that none of the sellers who helped the fascists to be propaganda tools, surrender our positions and hail the occupiers as liberators, escape responsibility for treason. he prepared fakes for the kremlin media and spread disinformation about ukraine. the technology of the office of the president is banal in its stupidity and so low-grade. recently in kyiv. the security service of ukraine detained blogger dmytro korniychuk. it is reported that he denied the armed aggression of the russian federation and tried to discredit the command of the defense forces in favor of russia. he also spread

misinformation. about the social and political situation in ukraine. law enforcement officials note that the blogger's posts and video comments are active were picked up by major russian tv channels and online publications, which created production plots based on them. during the searches , the pro-russian blogger was found to have computers and mobile phones with evidence of his subversive activities. korniychuk has 26,000 subscribers on youtube and an audience of 5,500 on telegram. however, its content spread much wider and... russia actively used it. now the nedobloger faces up to eight years in prison with confiscation of property. this is serhiy mykolayovych cheravko, the former deputy mayor of kherson. and i to you now i will tell you how he exchanged his political career for a minor position with the occupiers, as well as suspicion. the feeling of patriotism, the feeling of love for the native land unites both the soldiers on the battlefield and the people who help restore

the economy in the rear. serhiy, 49, is from kherson, he devoted almost his entire life to politics, since 1998 he regularly ran for office. in 1998 and 2002, he tried to get into the kherson city council. in 2015 , he became the deputy mayor of kherson and part-time headed the regional organization kherson party. then he tweeted in ukrainian and took care of the questions. education for children who moved from the temporarily occupied territories of donetsk region, there is indeed a problem of accommodation and provision of modern educational opportunities for children who came to us from luhansk and donetsk regions, and later forgot their native language, and began to call the occupied territories part of the great russian empire. in 2017, cherovko left the position of deputy mayor and ran for the verkhovna rada from

the opposition bloc party in the 19th, but did not. takes place in 2020 cherovko ran for the kherson city council, headed the list of volodymyr saldo's block and won again. i was lucky enough to sit down only in the chair of the deputy of the shipping district of the city of kherson. in his position, he takes care of the demographic problems of the region and the mass exodus of ukrainians from ukraine. the situation is catastrophic. in ukraine, for example, the birth rate has decreased by 40% over the last 10 years. and a few days before the full-scale invasion of the russian federation , an interview was released on the lyubimy gorod youtube channel, where cheravko convinces the host evgeny brykov, that there will be no war. how indicative that after february 24, these two will betray ukraine and begin to serve bloody murderers. serhii, well, now it is clear that everyone's attention is focused on only one question every day:

will we have a war, we would like it not... to be, of course. 99.9% will not, i recommend everyone who bought buckwheat, matches, salt, etc. to use them in cooking. for these traitors, the killing and torture of ukrainians, the occupation of cities and villages became not a pain, but an opportunity, which they gladly took advantage of. our act, a meaningful act, is unconditional determining how we will build, with whom we will build our future. our future, when the kherson region was occupied, cherevko joyfully went out to the russian soldiers on the main square of kherson with red flags of the ussr. initially, this traitor, together with gauleiter volodymyr saldo, participated in the creation of a kind of rescue committee for peace and order. the purpose of this committee was cooperation with the occupation authorities and russia. a plot about the creation of this.