the central council of these bourgeois, that's all, it's so emphasized, it's disgusting, yes, he shows these people, and yuriy shevelyov wrote in his letters to roman korogotsky, so he wrote that this is a compensatory mechanism of self-justification due to the humiliation of the hosts of program competitions, this, i will now quote why the arsenal needs those scumbags from... the second camp, and why they are so scumbag, scumbag, so, so disgusting, and here we have the key, because they did not manage to win, it turns out that they are guilty for the lost, for the lost war, therefore, this is not a tribute to the official requirements, but the sincere truth is revealed and suffered, i am all in the anthem, but i am not responsible for it, but those bad guys are responsible. and shevelyov says: this is

wild dostoevism, which is very similar to the truth. is this interpretation of dovzhenko close to you? it is very interesting and perhaps it is important even for us in a broader sense for understanding ourselves. and now i can't help but think about what if, kvn, how. present in our lives, yes, which we, as it were, and we, this is some intellectual part, do not like him, but a large part of society likes it, it's like such self-mockery and self-mockery, ugh, here really, there is such a precious thought that we laugh at them because they didn't win, if they couldn't with their, i don't know, their background, they could not be fooled. er, and that’s why they need

to be portrayed that way, although dovzhenko, he was always ironic, he, er, his first films, he wanted to make comedies, the first films there were vasya the reformer and yagidka kohannya, these are typical, by the way, german cinema european shtibu, because in zvenigore and in the arsenal and in zemlya dovzhenko is already inventing his own language, but these two films, vasya the reformer and yagidka, they are buliga. so very typical with make-up, they were urban stories, they were very playful stories, but really there were people from such a bourgeois class, they looked weak, not very nice, and on the posters dovzhenko also drew bourgeois in the claws of the soviet government, he also drew them unsympathetic and unattractive, and i actually remember his kharkiv period, when he also wrote political cartoons in the visnyk publishing house drew on the unattractive petliur,

vennichenko, skoropadskyi, that is, people who were supposedly close to him in terms of value. but let's look at the next film zemlya, which is certainly the most famous, i think, ukrainian film in the world right now, yes, which brought world fame, was brought by dovzhenko, a film about collectivization, which is supposed to glorify collectivization, but... it showed absolutely something the opposite was shown by the disconnection of people with the land, with the roots and with nature.

and now this film earth is released, and as i understand it, it has been in theaters for 9 days and on the ninth the day the article of the kremlin trump is published.

reacts in such a way that he wanted to kill the cow, and at the same time, in parallel, in parallel to this abomination written by damian bedny, suddenly such a movement begins, this is how the world, this film is recognized, dovzhenko becomes a star. abroad in europe, america and so on. in what, how, in your opinion, what is the strength of this film, what was the innovation of the earth, why did the world suddenly perceive this film? he became for many, if not

instructive, but he became a model, a view on nature, probably, in this film as well. one feels a kind of dovzhenki-like task, and there is a gap there, one can very strongly feel such an impression that he is already beginning to doubt his impulse, that is, it is such a story about not being himself and losing himself, and here is this dualism, maybe he would strengthen it the voice of this film, by the way, it's a very... interesting idea, and the soviet authorities immediately felt it, it's this dualism and this break with themselves, maybe it's because the film was, well, now you're asking why the film was so popular, it was dovzhenko still could not, no matter how he tried

to play along with the authorities somewhere or to play in such a revolution of reshaping its residents and trying to raise them up. would be at a higher level, and now i’ve lost my mind, well, i’ll come back, but there, but dovzhenko, he was a pantheist in his essence, that is, he was not a christian, or very atypical, he lost his faith during his studies, probably, but he was completely embedded in nature, and for him nature is ... it was everything, and if you look further there then there is the film ivan, who filmed the construction of dniproges, and together with the films of other directors, it resembles such a very painful realization that something is wrong with us

, and we are being led somewhere wrong, and they are trying to change us to the point of destroying us, so that we are gone, and in... the land there are these typical ukrainians, who should be done something with them, or change them, or hide them further from civilization, there are already people of a new generation, and there is simply a great nature that captures all this, against the background of which it takes place, where it is almost like this mythical thinking, where an old person in goodness departs to another world. where there is a naked woman, which was also a very revolutionary move at the time, and it was his wife, it was yulia sontseva, who later, with whom he continued to work a lot already in moscow, she was like his assistant, and then grew into an independent

director, if we have time, i will also ask you about yuliya sontseva, but before that i want to ask you about you said that you flirted with the authorities, for me there is still some order. the relationship between stalin and dovzhenko, why did stalin not destroy it dovzhenko is like kurbas, like this entire generation, why did he save him several times even from dovzhenko's words, so dovzhenko respected him, why? i think one can only fantasize here, because we don't know what was in stalin's mind, and what, what stalin admired dovzhenko, in your opinion, irina was it. and the researcher is a literary critic, she believes, she is a researcher of the actually shot revival and she believes that because dovzhenko was so authoritarian himself, well, he was impressed by the power and authoritarianism of stalin himself, he seemed to be attracted, stalin was attracted

by his figure, a valid opinion, since he was a director, he could well have been attracted by this figure from an anthropological point of view, yes, because this... was undoubtedly an outstanding personality, and now i have the thought arose that perhaps dovzhenko, when this repressive flywheel began to spin, well, maybe he had some illusion that he would sacrifice himself, and well, that is, if he took sides, so to speak, evil, then it will be like such a ritual sacrifice, and maybe others will suffer from this, less, maybe he somehow believed that he could influence the situation and persuade, maybe he believed that his art of influence. on stalin, and stalin will listen to him, but this, this

is now my assumption, because dovzhenko, it seems that he constantly doubted this decision, and i saw such an opinion that stalin, for example, offered him to move to moscow in 33 last year, it seems, when you left, he offered him so that dovzhenko would not see the famine that is happening in ukraine, so that he... could in some way, to be a witness of this very close, although dovzhenko could not help but know , of course, but his parents, yes, parents were here and it affected them, but in the 32nd year he shot ivan on the dniproges, ugh, who also lay down on shelf, although it was shown at the venice festival, it was the first at the first festival in venice, and... perhaps the fact that both earth and john were lit abroad already played a role here, they were seen

there, and as in the case with peradzhanov, when the promotion of his film, which was not made in time to hide, raised the voices of the world film community, and maybe that's why dovzhenko was treated in such a way, and the next film after the 32nd, it was already the 35th year, er, aerograd, which he already filmed at mosfilm. for according to stalin's idea, in fact, maybe this was one of the reasons as well, but i agree with you that i also think that because of his world fame and because stalin probably understood that it was better to use him, and stalin used it to the full, it seems to me, and that in doirograd and in relation to shchors, because shchors was also stalin's idea, so shoot the ukrainian chapaev, as if yes, and in both films, in principle, it is very... well, it is very well traced, if there are still some hesitations in the land, and there are also a lot of them in ivan, there is hesitation, but

in between, well, such an artistic understanding whether what is happening here is good, whether this transformation is good and where it leads, because dovzhenko puts these doubts in the mouths of his characters, and they certainly do not look very motivating for those who have started to build, then aerograd . and shors they are quite like that, it is not a reflection of reality, it is clear constructs, as it should be, and megalomania is very well written in aerograd, and this is the urge to something gigantic, gigantic, big, majestic, to conquer, to take away, to conquer, ugh, and this is also something that is not characteristic of ukrainians , i also planned to ask you to talk about... in my opinion, dovdzhenko's most tragic script, which

is called ukraine of fire, is a script, a film script, which he wrote in 1942, if i'm not mistaken, that's how we found his address, where he says the words ukraine in lights, this is at the beginning of the war, he addresses as if with an appeal, it seems interesting to us just to look at the temperament of oleksandr dovdzhenko. ukraine is on fire, on our wide spaces, so beautiful and joyful in the recent past, cities and villages have been burning non-stop for two years now, the speech of latent jokers illuminating the great tragedy of our time, listen to the contemporaries of a great era, ukrainians of the past.

so this catastrophe of ukraine, which became the battlefield of the second world war, so terribly hurts him. i found a quote, dovzhenko writes on november 6, 1943, and listen, just for... so these days, so at this historical point, how it hurts to read and how it hurt dovzhenko himself, he writes: ukraine is destroyed like no other country in the world, by and large. all the cities have been looted, we have no schools, no institutes, no museums, no libraries, our historical archives have perished, painting, sculpture, architecture have perished, all bridges and roads have been destroyed, the war has ruined the national economy, destroyed people, beaten, hanged, dispersed in captivity, we do not have there are almost no scientists, there are few artists, so he writes

a film script, shows khrushchev, yes khrushchev... somehow, i don’t know if it is khrushchev, or somehow this film script gets to beria, and from beria it gets to stalin, and stalin , terribly, stalin, with whom dozhenko went, walked around moscow, who ordered the script, were completely satisfied with stalin, dovzhenko, he is terribly indignant, and we also chose a quote from stalin, simply, who says that this. dovzhenka's script ukraine is on fire is a revision of leninism. 31 in january 1944, imagine, it was convened, stalin convened a special meeting of the cpsu and gave a speech, there is a transcript of stalin’s speech, which says the following: if the war is judged by dovzhenka’s film story, then

representatives of all the nations of the ussr did not participate in the national war, in it only ukrainians participate. dovzhenko writes this well-known phrase in his diary, he writes that on january 31, 1944, i was taken. to the kremlin, where i was hacked to pieces, and the bloodied parts of my soul were scattered to the shame and slaughter of all gatherings, i held on for a year and fell, my heart could not withstand the burden of lies and evil, i was born and lived for good and love, i was killed by the hatred of the great just at the moment of their smallness, whether or not this is the moment of truth for

dovzhenko, this is the history of ukraine is on fire, is there a moment of... truth for him, but on the other hand, he continues to film something even further, he then films michurin, that is, it is not the end, no, it is not the end, and during, well, actually during the war , he also shot a chronicle film, well, such if the notes were about the war, but then there remained proshkovaya america in the 51st year, and even proshkovaya america was like that, absolutely also propagandistic, yes, it is about the criminal activities of the american special services against diplomats. yes, uh, well, actually, in 1956 , dovzhenko died, but in that interval there was another poem about the sea, i don’t know if it was an epiphany or, well, but the moment of truth, the moment when he expressed this is already, he is a little earlier, he has such a phrase that our film experts included in the exhibition, the river screamed and howled like

a wounded animal, this is such a story about cinema to... tracking how the dnipro changed due to the development of kaskas, ugh, and actually, the construction of this gigantic project was an instrument for the soviet authorities, and that is the backward movement, which we later dealt with after the russians blew up the kokhovskaya hydroelectric power station, and now zaporizhzhia has already suffered, so dovzhenko is somewhere in the period... of the 30s, he, he had such a phrase that between truth and beauty, i choose beauty, and it seems to me that it is his, and again , this is my fantasy, but it sounds a lot like his political manifesto, because he had to either construct the truth, and perhaps this is also one of the reasons why he was with stalin, because stalin valued artists,

he understood who was capable of what, but having dovzhenko by his side made it easier for him to... control him and he, because what a mean thing dovzhenko did, publicizing ukraine in flames, it was really such a blow in the back for stalin. i, we, we are today talking about the entire program about dovzhenko, about his legacy and how to tell the truth, how to interpret devzhenko, find a language that would narrate, yes, that would convey the whole complex, yes, what it consisted of, the worldview of this person, the mentality of this person, and so on, now... the critical question is not only the return of dovzhenko's creative heritage, but also the return of dovzhenko to the center, yes to the institution you

lead, yes, not a return, but preservation , in fact, for people who do not know about the history of the dovzhenko center, i would like to remind you that in 2022 there was a decision of the ukrainian authorities to reorganize the dovzhenko center , it actually means the liquidation of the dovzhenko center, the cultural community supported you, the court declared the state cinema's order on reorganization illegal, but now, as far as we know, there is an appeal, yes an appeal, what is the current situation with the dovzhanko center? the situation at the center is difficult, because we have not received state funding for several months, and this greatly affects efficiency or motivation. about work, but uh, people, museum workers, or archivists, film archivists, this is a very specific category of people who for some reason

protect what does not essentially belong to them, we protect what belongs to the country, and if the country does not need its own film fund, then i have a question, what are we fighting for, but my colleagues who are currently working at the center, they very... well understand their responsibility and their importance in working with those films that are stored in us, this is actually the largest collection of ukrainian cinema, the only one that exists in ukraine, eh, and here the connection with dovzhenko is also direct, i believe, because he had an idea even when he worked at vovko, he had an idea , that they are ukrainian, that films need a film archive, or a fund where they will be stored, because with films... were treated very frivolously, they burned and spoiled easily, and he had the idea of ​​creating a film archive where films would be stored, eh, but in the 1930s

ukrainian cinema basically all left for russia, maybe something remained in the film studios , but at a very high risk, because it was not allowed, and actually in ukraine until 1994 there was no film archive or cinematheque, only thanks to the efforts... of some very wise people, among whom were mr. yakovyna, and ivan dzyuba and yuriy lenko, mykola's fault yakovyna was the deputy minister, and while performing the duties of the minister of culture, it was like that for a while, because he was developing the charter of the center itself, then these people realized that we, well , we have a museum, but we don't have our own, neither a cinema museum, nor there is no film fund, that is, our film memory is located in... a state from which we are now, as it were, independent, and so began a very long process of collecting film and returning it to ukraine, that is, we

have been collecting film for 30 years, and we believe that its now formal there is no need to be now transfer the films to some other institution, to regularize the activities of the center, to ensure it in terms of sustainability so that we can preserve the life of the films, and in a period when everything is threatened, i think that is the primary function of the state, but since it does not really want to to engage in this, and switched to industry, then, accordingly , in their eyes, the film archive looks like ballast and something unnecessary, and there is no one to protect it except ourselves and our society, well , it’s good that here our tasks seem to coincide, so we continue as if to work and... to fight, although i would like to focus more on the topics that you raise today, because it is very important for us how we ourselves will relate to

our own cultural heritage, how we will understand it, how we will talk about it to speak, because now there are a lot of scandals around each personality, and it is obvious that we know very little about... our own cinema or our own art, i also consider myself one of those people who are not very well -informed, i'm just lucky work with those who are engaged in this, who research well, and there are also people who remember history, but we, we are very synchronous here with dovzhenko, that is, we, we are part of the same society, where on the one hand we want russian funds, and on the other hand, we are threatened and they are our enemy, and we cannot... choose who is our hero, who we have to surrender, and this is the work of cultural institutions. anyway, i thank you, thank you, thank you to your team, and thank you to the communities that

support you. because you do tremendous work, even without funding, you do perhaps the main work of preservation of cultural heritage. thank you, thank you for thank you, because you are also among those who support us, thank you, olena honcharuk, head of the dovzhanko center, was our guest, these are actually proper names, we will see you in a week, thank you. the search for 17-year-old student alina boshko, who mysteriously disappeared while on vacation with friends in the volyn region, has been going on for more than a month. the situation is really difficult, but we really hope that alina will be found and most importantly, that she is alive. so all this time the search did not stop, they are ongoing, and we are doing everything possible to help find alina. and above all

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