hiding their ships and so on, that is, if we see that russia is using a lot of effort to preserve these remnants of the black sea fleet, shouldn't we take advantage of this and just hit the city of kerch, is it possible to do it this way? undoubtedly, the russians at one time pulled 13 large amphibious ships into the black sea equator for a reason, they tried to carry out a large-scale sea and air landing on the territory of the odesa region. but it didn't work out for the russians in february, in march, then we ate part of it ships were destroyed, then we took up this matter more diligently, and in fact five ships, a large dozen ships remained with the russians, and not all of them are in combat condition, some of them need repair, but what about the plans of putin's army , i do not rule out that they may dare to make such an adventure with an attempt to land an amphibious assault, either on the coast of odesa,

on the territory of mykolaiv oblast, they will try to repeat such an attempt, but again , the resources of the ukrainian naval forces are sufficient for turn into putin's army of putin's army is on ashes, on scrap metal, because we are not ready, we are ready for any option to unravel the situation, the issue of the destruction of not only large amphibious ships, but other russian warships, is only a matter of time, the russians have already literally closed it. the entrance to the russian bukhtonovo water area is blocked by barricades and barges. that's just the way it is. vorok really eats, and is afraid of the corresponding reactions from the ukrainian defense forces, and what the enemy is afraid of will definitely happen. mistakes of ships of the russian black sea fleet, will be sent to the flagship of the russian black sea fleet, the guards missile cruiser moscow. well, for now there are announcements to increase the number of karakurts in crimea, and not just from anyone, but from the minister. of the defense

of the russian federation, sergei shoigu, no matter how the excess is rearranged, as they say, in russian brothels, but the actions of the black sea fleet directly in the black sea are obviously not becoming more effective, because to counter ukrainian submarines, unmanned boats, well, for sure the russians will have to think how it is to do in the near future and quite active. so far everything they come up with looks funny. now there is information that they are already arming their warships of the black sea fleet with russian fpv drones, they are even posting some videos that are aimed at obviously intimidating our defense forces, that unmanned boats can now be attacked with fivishkas, well it actually looks a little funny, you can imagine how they just destroy each other. er, please tell me

if there are real ways to counter unmanned, drone technologies at sea, are there ways to counteract the mosquito fleet, which has actually already been created by the ukrainian state, which works on the black sea flotilla very efficiently, if russia has the resources, it will be able to create these options, but for that they need to actually monitor 24/7 about... the black sea, in particular in the northwestern part closer to the water area of ​​the az, odesa, odesa region, and the enemy does not dare to do this, because we are very quickly turning some of his things, in particular the drone system, into objects of underwater cultural heritage of ukraine, of course, the enemy can place additional crews on board ships, in particular armed zeni. or heavy

machine guns, of course he can use other means of fire damage, whether it will help him is doubtful, during a masked drone attack, the chances are practically zero, village warships. and how do you assess the new commander of the black sea fleet serhii pinchuk, what, what to expect from him? not ready to comment, see you later. well, at the same time we have information about what to mobilize in crimea, at least 15 thousand more citizens, as we understand, citizens of our country, are planned, maybe they will be russians who came, colonizers, occupiers and so on, but i don't think so, and i don't think that they will try to attract their own. will beat

the indigenous peoples of the crimean peninsula, ethnic ukrainians who continue to live, ukrainian citizens who continue to live in crimea. 15 thousand for the crimean... peninsula in the context of a general name-calling campaign, which putin actually approved, is it a lot or a little? it a lot, i think there will be more, because the enemy is trying to close his request at the expense of the local population in a personal composition, so i think that the total level of draconian mobilization is waiting for the people of kanokrim, so i advise all citizens of ukraine who are in the temporarily occupied territories and go the further from there, because it is an extreme risk, they will be taken away, scooped up, sent to... in fact, to the hell of war. thank you very much, mr. vladyslav, chsagolyn, for taking the time to join our broadcast. vladyslav seriznyov was with us directly communications officer, military expert, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine and ex-spokesman of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. and i would like to take

the opportunity, mr. vladyslav mentioned the simons turbines, which at one time got to the temporarily occupied peninsula by devious, very gray and dubious ways. are now playing their role in the energy capacities of the occupiers on the peninsula, for example, in germany employees of the siems company will be tried for the supply of gas turbines to crimea. the local prosecutor's office has already announced the indictment of five persons, four of them are germans and another has dual citizenship of switzerland and france. the hamburg land court has yet to decide whether to accept the charges. it is claimed that those involved knew that four gas turbines. for the annexed peninsula, after the occupation of crimea, western companies were prohibited from trading with it due to european union sanctions. we are following. well, finally, ms. khrystyna, really, because nine years have already passed since this incident, and this

happened in 2015, and finally, after 9 years , germany will judge these four. so, some processes are a little too bureaucratic. things are not happening in europe as fast as we would like. let's take a short break now, after which we will add to our conversation live directly in the studio of the ex-representative of the president of ukraine in the autonomous republic of crimea, boris babin, we will talk about the humanitarian and civil component on the crimean peninsula now and directly in the context of the reintegration of these territories. koroshkench. i congratulate you. this is svoboda live. on radio svoboda. we have already come to the snake itself. the following shots may shock you. news from the place events live kamikaze drone attacks. political analytics, objectively and meaningfully. there is no political season. exclusive

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alaykum salaam, have a good day. mr. vladislaus, mr. boris, there are really a lot of questions that we wanted to discuss with you today, and recently i would like to start with this one. news amnesty international in its new publication, dedicated to the 10th anniversary of the illegal annexation of the ukrainian peninsula, stated that since the occupation of crimea 10 years ago, russia seeks to change the ethnic. composition of the peninsula and to suppress the ukrainian and crimean tatar communities, is there today numbers, how many colonizers did russia bring to the occupied peninsula in these 10 years? well, the exact number per person, of course , no one will say, obviously, and it is a fact that it is measured in hundreds of thousands of people, regardless of how to calculate, because they calculate separately with sevastopol, separately without sevastopol, there are more, as they say , the percentage of colonizers than finally the peninsula, and different waves. colonization, the question of who exactly to consider a colonizer disappears again, an example is such a variable

component, it is the russian military to large-scale invasion, there was such a category of soldiers, then this is cannon fodder, of course, it is not a permanent colonizer, it is, as they say, they are temporary, but count, do not count, then the question of officials, so-called, and the question of people who , which the aggressor encourages but does not force to colonize, it is everywhere... there are retirees, pensioners, businesses and so on, i.e. all these categories, they are covered, of course, by the general criminal plan of the kremlin, this is how this process goes, the only thing here is the aggressor suspends to some extent, it is a demographic crisis, yes, the demographic crisis is everywhere, it cannot be said that it does not exist in ukraine and in the occupied crimea, in particular it exists, but it is in the aggressor state, so physically we can observe an interesting situation, especially it is not only for crimea, but for the new one. .. the occupied territories arise that they do not have enough physically, for example, ethnic russians for the reunification of the same, for example

, kherson oblast or the occupied part of zaporizhzhia, they massively bring representatives of the peoples of the caucasus there, for example, because the demographic situation is different there, that is, here, but in general, yes, blurring the ethnic identity of ukrainians, these genocidal intentions, they are absolutely clear, and they have become the absolute narrative of the aggressor since the 22nd year, when they actually took over. the mere existence of ukrainian identity in crimea, any public expression of such existence, is already, as they say, punitive measures from the aggressor. but i would like to remind you that on january 31 in gaza, the un international court of justice announced the final decision on ukraine's lawsuit against the russian federation, and many of the nuances were and are related to crimea. here we see now the position of the rights defenders of amnesty international, who say that, in principle , it is exactly... a change in the ethnic composition, due to some religious reasons, the

persecutions that are taking place in the crimea are now taking place, in this court decision we are talking about the political component, that is, not because of ethnic origin , not because they are ukrainians or crimean tatars or representatives of other nationalities, not because they are muslims, christians or anyone else, but because they do not support the russian federation. that is why there is persecution in crimea, and with that it is very difficult to agree, to be honest, well , in fact, it is very difficult to agree with the quality of the preparation of ukraine's position in this court, or it is very simple to blame international law, which is wrong, so the convention was poorly written, the judges did not stand up, but it is clearly written in the decision, there the key thing for me is the phrase, and this sentence is actually for those who prepared it in ukraine, or who paid money for those lawyers who prepared it, it was not proven there. that is, i believe, this is my personal assessment, that it should be checked by both our law enforcement officers and others

counter-intelligence issues, and corruption issues, how did it happen that the case that was going on in the 17th year was called by the ministry of foreign affairs, which he very strongly closed directly, let's say, from public control, from public control, where he told that he had the best lawyers in the world, the best interaction between bodies in the world, it turns out that it is not, and the court wrote about it directly, so it is not here, let's put it this way, this decision should have been a verdict of racial discrimination of the aggressor , unfortunately, it became a verdict of very poor quality works of lawyers of the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs, and here it is the problem is, because the enemy understands this, the enemy understands that the same lawyers are still today, none of them have moved, as they say, from the building on the mykhailivskyi building to the askoldovma building, to our great regret, and that is why we see that today the aggressor is preparing provocations for the international the court, he is obviously preparing there and it is a small one... the secret of the lawsuit against ukraine regarding the alleged financing of terrorism, it is obvious that there are

no legal grounds, but there are such lawyers in kyiv, i'm sorry, which any lawsuit, unfortunately, involves the zone i risk my own existence in the ministry of foreign affairs. this is my position, i am ready, if anyone is interested, to prove it with documents, but returning to crimea. today, unfortunately, the aggressor is using this position, which was created due to the decision of the international court of the un, i have already said why that decision arose, unfortunately... it is used by the aggressor to intensify the repression of the crimean tatars, because he says: you see, in the decision it is written that there is no discrimination, this is a huge political cover that russia has received today, unfortunately, today... human rights activists, who all these years on their own without any or almost any support from those people who pred at these gaga conferences are collecting the relevant evidence and will go anyway, i know, i just can't go into details here, that there will be a lot of work in order to prove that there is racial discrimination against the crimean tatars in crimea, that there is racial discrimination against ethnic ukrainians in crimea, thank god

these lawyers who initiated this lawsuit will not deal with this, no one will let them there, these are public initiatives, and we we will have appropriate decision in favor of... the ukrainian state and the indigenous crimean tatar people and all crimeans. well, we really see how russian propaganda is now using it, and even russian ghouls, they now started saying that everything is very good, everything is very normal with the crimean-tatar language on the territory of the occupied peninsula, and even under ukraine until 2014 , it seems that there were big problems with the crimean tatar language, and now russia came and everything is fine, but i... i remember, i was born in already independent ukraine, and i studied in in the crimean tatar class, if i am not mistaken, now in crimea, in schools, there is only one hour, yes in the crimean tatar language, and if the relatives of the children want it, well, look, first of all, the occupiers

have not formally, so formally closed schools where , which were related to crimean tatar teaching, let's say until... 2014, but today the number of classes is really decreasing, the amount of actual teaching is decreasing, the language for teaching crimean to crimean tatar practically does not go, there are remnants of learning crimean tatar as a subject, there are pressure on parents in order to reduce the number of students here, the only factor that really ensured the existence of such education so far is the position of the crimean tatars themselves, this is the position of the families, if this did not happen, it would not have happened a long time ago, complete. against this background, the ban on ukrainian education, ukrainian-language education, is the only thing that ukraine has proven, managed to prove, because it is an absolutely obvious fact, the occupiers destroyed it not only factually, it should be proven, but also legally, as if legally, we covered everything up below zero crimea, ukraine is educational, that's why the international court stated there, after all, you were forced

to state that there really is racial discrimination of ethnic ukrainians about the crimean tatars, i repeat, because of the great regret. the officials who insisted on this, we simply could not prove it, although this is an objective fact, so today there are indeed these provocations, there are statements that are beyond reasonable, so that the crimean tatar language is not recognized, well, that any lawyer opens, well, here is the constitution of the republic of kazakhstan of 98, there is written kravsko-tatar, here is the framework convention of regional languages, ukraine recognizes protection, but there it is even more, as they say, the godfather of lies, it is mr. lavrov who announced this, he already said it. that in the crimea until the 14th year, apparently, not a single mosque was built, yes, that is, all the crimean tatars were waiting, you know, that putin would come, as they say, and they would build mosques, well, i understand that this is not, well, this is not only absurd, but it is refuted by the simple fact that every crimean tatar in his settlement knows when the mosque was actually opened and a significant number of them were either opened by the 14th year, or even if it was

opened in the 15th, 16th, and it is, they started to build it somewhere in the 10th or 11th. that's why it's all very much, as they say, they just sell to their, as they say, their population, they try to sell it at international institutions, but then again there is a question, you said about the political component, and indeed the occupiers are currently speculate that it is about ethnic persecution, and they speculate on the statements of the international court about the majlis, yes and the decision of the international court is written that it is not... let’s say this, an organization of the people, but some kind of political structure, but i have a question, look, such an interesting situation is developing, and ukraine has approved the law on the nation of peoples, there is a fixed procedure for the legalization of representative institutions, national peoples, which are the midjlis, later in the 22nd year due to, you know, great work of the crimean tatar

law enforcers, let's say, and civil society, the cabinet of ministers approves the procedure for legalizing the midjlis, it's very simple. yes uh, then they collect the documents that before this order, it was not easy, something happened in the crimea, collected, collected, submitted to the cabinet of ministers, the cabinet of ministers accepted it in june 23rd, for those who were awarded there, and those who were awarded there, and i have a question , as they say an asterisk, and if the cabinet of ministers had approved this decision on the legalization of the midjlis in time within the framework of these very organizational procedures, if it had been put on the table in a timely manner, maybe something would have changed. and maybe there will be questions for the people who spent this saturday in kyiv, not just questions about, i will say so, about them there there are concerns about the crimean tatars, namely the issue of the corresponding article of the criminal code.

in this, not only a political, but also a criminal, procedural assessment, and the fact that the assessment will be legal, well, of course, there will be something to be judged no less, it is obvious that if you are given what is rightfully yours, let the court decide. the crimean tatar people are really in a state of limbo right now, and this is already being emphasized by representatives of medjalis itself, arifat chubarov spoke about it recently, by the way, the discussion is intensifying now in ukraine regarding the status and format of the existence of the crimean peninsula of these territories in general in the context of return, and a lot of speculations, which ayder and i started talking about in the last program, well, first of all... speculation on the topic of where the crimean tatars are, why they do not fight, and this is completely unfair, we have a battalion formed by representatives of the crimean tatar

people, which is joined by representatives of other ethnic groups, indigenous peoples, national minorities, in addition, representatives are firmly embedded in the defense forces of ukraine of the crimean tatar people, and they perform combat tasks in many directions, now in every fifth battalion. absolutely, and on the other hand, again, the crimean tatar autonomy or the crimean region, unfortunately, unfortunately, we see the intensification of this discussion now, i don't know if it is timely, let's say, well, two different questions, on the first question, how can a person in a completely civil manner answer that we see crimean tatars in the army, i know my crimean tatar comrades in the army, but the question is different, the question is that if crimea is occupied, yes, and the other part of the crimean tatar, let's say, not the diaspora, but part of the traditional resettlement in the kherson region was occupied in the first days of the war, maybe it's not the fault of the crimean tatar people, right? well, it is no less his right, if the bulk of the crimean tatars

were in the controlled territory, it is obvious that their share in the army would be greater, this is purely an arithmetical question, the second arithmetical question, there is repression, it is an example of repression in the newly occupied territory, where crimean tatars are male in large numbers the aggressor pursues for participation. or for possible participation in the civil blockade of crimea, they become de facto prisoners of war, i will look at this word, that is, excuse me, with all, as they say, respect for any discussion, there is no discussion here, the question is different, namely why we are discussing something that really makes absolutely no sense to physically discuss today, why? it's impossible to change the constitution, look, several factors, the first factor, we live in a democratic country, we can't bring such things down from above exactly, we have at least... let's say directly, it is logical to conduct through some procedure of discussion or referendum, well, otherwise it is impossible, you can talk about a referendum, i am talking about any form provided for by the legislation of ukraine,

i do not say the word referendum, i do not say the word there is some other, i say that this is not a democratic procedure that you decide at a bank or there , for example, even in the session hall of the verkhovna rada, this is a broader issue, crimea is occupied, today the mejlis, returning to this issue again... it has not yet been established in organizational relations, i do not say in legal system, ukraine legally and politically recognized it, but did not introduce it into the organizational system, and how can you talk about something in general without introducing this body into the organizational system of power, we have a law on the country of peoples, it says with participation, with participation, with participation, with consultations, that is, we start it first, then, when we start it, another question arises, it is already political, again it should be held after the deoccupation of the thai kings, electing the majlis, these are all logical questions, because... crimean tatars , as a component of the ukrainian people, the entire ukrainian people are used to living according to democratic procedures, only after these questions can something be legally formalized, and that is why i say, those of you who

are talking about the crimean tatar autonomy or the region today, yes, because they either do not know the situation, or are they useful fools, because all these issues today have the only actual result, which is the distraction of society from urgent issues, which issues, the protection of the affairs of the kremsttar people here today during the occupation? real jobs, sorry, not kavabreaks, but real de-occupation jobs, reintegration of crimea, i can't talk about the military bloc, but as an example, what about the civilian bloc, yes, regarding the civilian bloc, all these issues, just so you understand the situation, we just held the crimean-tatar resource center and conducted other organizations, our association integration of crimea, which i represent, a series of three strategic forums, well, regarding the future of crimea, have already worked out relevant proposals for the integration strategy, then for government plans. then at the moment we got together, we began to think about what to do with the organization the activities of the international crimean platform, because the summits are taking place, this is very correct, this is the right policy, i personally support it,

but... but let's talk about the real results here and on the ground, what it gives us, what concrete plans, strategies do we have , the task that there is a lot of work on the shore, someone gives us funds for this, in what amount, which country, we see today security agreements, there are eight of them, it is very good that they are concluded from great britain to finland, i only found two questions , quote, support developing plans for the reintegration of the occupied territories, if it seems to me, it is great britain and france. ugh, this is what we need to think about today, that is, in fact , we are, sorry, today, we are not going to the constituent assembly of the united nations in san francisco in the 45th, today we are starting the battle for the gudal canal, if we compare it by categories, we should think not about the un charter, but about the dlendliz plan, dear ones, and when they start telling us, excuse me, you know, it’s like standards, let’s turn over the ukrainian flag, everything will change, it won’t change, from

that today we are at a formal level... and even if we can declare it today, because any constitutional act on crimea, it foresees the realities of the situation, we must first clearly understand the reintegration strategy, the reintegration strategy was approved in the 21st year before the great war, we were promised a new edition in the 23rd year, mr. danilov promised, panata and mrs. virishchuk, then we heard another statement by mr. danilo, as far as i am mistaken, public, well, someone from the authorities or officials. that there will be some general strategy about all reintegrated territory, today mr. danilo is no longer the secretary of the rbu, so a new question arises, right, so who is there, what will be the new position in the nsdc, she is responsible for this, because the nsdc apparatus is responsible for the preparation of decisions, and the strategy of deoccupation and reintegration of crimea is valid in the 21st year, where everyone told us about the diplomatic path, it should be changed at the renbo level, that is, i am talking about the fact that this should be done here and now, when we do it, the strategy will be signed by president

zelensky, we from this... let's build which, excuse me, is constitutional, yes, if i am i'm not wrong, in 2021, during the development of the strategy for the de-occupation and reintegration of the peninsula , the kremstotarsky people's image lis and the krymstotarsky resource center, etc. took part. now you have not been invited to the mejlis, i don't know, i don't know, i honestly don't want to evaluate those events. it's good that this strategy was generally approved at the very least, it does not correspond to the realities of the great war, so let's put a full stop on this... let's face it, criticizing a document that we know should be changed today is not a thankless task. the only thing i can say is that i am i can say that a plan was approved for the development of this strategy in the 23rd year, well, and here the question of lawyers arose, because there is a plan, but the strategy was not changed, that is, on the basis of which, if the strategy was not changed, the plan is already new, and the second question, and from there many lawyers, in particular, i saw this plan, sorry for the television, mr. boris, i really

hope that we will have the opportunity ... to make a whole separate program with you on all the mentioned topics, thank you very much for the fact that you were able to emphasize those quite acutely and fairly moments that, well, in my opinion, a little cautiously, are sometimes discussed in the information space. thank you, borys badinets, the representative of the president of ukraine in the autonomous republic of crimea, i thank my colleague gulsum for the fact that we were able to implement another program note together. we would like to remind you that this is a joint project of the espresso tv channel and the atr tv channel. stay with us and stay with crimea. congratulations. today is the story of two girls and one boy who go missing in the chaos of war at the start of a full-scale invasion.

all the children who will be discussed from the temporarily occupied part of the kherson region are snizhana almagambetova, georgy bursky and sofiy kavaschenko. snowyna is only 11 years old and nothing is known about her since february 24, 2022. a girl disappeared in the skadovsky district of the kherson region in the city of gola prystan. and only 20 km from the golaya pier in the city of oleshki in kherson. before the war, there lived this 15-year-old boy, his name was george burskyi. please look carefully, in his face the teenager is missing and maybe you will recognize him and help him look for just like snizhana and georgy, nine-year-old sofiyka vashchenko disappeared in the kherson region at the very beginning of the war. the girl was last seen in the village of chaplinka, in the kakhovsky district. unfortunately... this is all

the information there is about snizhan.