they do it every day, and in three days we have a statement from the magathe, on the advice of those in charge of the attacks of those who were at the zaporozhye station, what they are provoking and doing, well, that is , they will simply strengthen the dynamics, strengthen the dynamics, strengthen, well, do what we did more actively in the 22nd year, and that gave results. another event that the world, and ukraine first, is waiting for is the global peace summit, which... is to be held in switzerland on june 15-16, the swiss department of foreign affairs has already confirmed this, it is expected that from 80 to 100 representatives will come to this summit countries of the world, but it is not yet known which countries will participate in this summit, and the swiss say that this event is aimed at creating a framework that will be favorable for the long term. peace in ukraine, as well as a concrete

road map for russia's participation in the peace process. earlier, it was announced that russia, this is the position of the ukrainian side, russia will not participate in this summit, switzerland talked about this possibility, and when it was announced that such a summit could be hosted by the swiss side, they talked about it, but russia is now saying officially that they refused to participate in the summit with... only switzerland refused neutrality, a rather strange position, explanation by the russians, because no one invited them there, they suddenly say that we, we will not go to switzerland, because they say that switzerland is no longer a neutral state, we will not do anything there, but without the participation of russia, what could be the consequences and results of this summit, that is, what should ukraine count on? when planned. maybe there were other circumstances and

i saw june more realistically somewhere i think that he will not bring exactly the consequences that we might have expected, that is, that is why we need to adjust our expectations, for me, for example, it will be effective if russia is now together with china, by the way, where did lavrov go and agreed that china did not participate and worked with countries. of the global south so that they don't participate as well, it will be important whether we can get enough countries there just to demonstrate that russia will not be able to prevent it, that's the first thing, and the important thing here is that as far as i know, the president of the united states, joseph biden is going to participate in this event, so, well, that means that the level that you can expect will give the opportunity to... the rejuvenation

of a wider range of countries with a higher status, that there is, well, not the issues that we want peace formulas will be resolved, it is obvious that china is procrastinating, well, it is clear that they will not take part at the highest or high level, or will they take part at all, we will see, that is, i do not expect any such huge results, but here is a platform for of establishing self-righteous narratives, truthful about the situation, this is a good platform, and here it is necessary, i would generally, well , return to aziv to speak with each delegation, not just that we had 20 meetings there, no, but so that each delegation received a package of information, that is, not only official, maybe some kind of emotional, maybe for participation, i don't know if this summit will allow such forms, but ukraine should be there. people who

bear the burden of this war, so that these, well, politicians hear it, so simply in the standard version, it won't pass now, we have to some creative approaches, an understanding of how to convey the position, information and position to everyone, if there will be any bigger decisions, there will be support for ukraine, countries that previously held or took such a position. neither yours nor ours, then i will only applaud this, but for now i see that if we think that we should throw away all resources, and i even heard that russia must somehow be dragged there, this is absolutely not the right way, i.e. this is not the stage of the war where you can really do it, but i don't want to comment, just a photo for us it is not enough, and it is needed only to count... the number of countries that participated there

, that is, it is obvious, but we still need to think about another strategic issue, which is the desire of different countries with russia. necessarily with russia, are we really already in this situation, and we predict that it will not change, that without the aggressor, without the one who occupied the country, it is no longer possible to solve anything, do we still have a plan, which and president zelenskyi's peace formula, in fact, which provides not for the decision of the aggressor, but for his forced, forced steps at the request of all there will be no global concentrated, or pressure, that... in this summit, and we need to think about it very seriously. you must have seen, mr. valery, this so-called draft, the turkish draft of the peace agreement, but i don't know how authentic it is and whether it is at all true, the new newspaper europe

has published, as it were, a draft of the treaty, where there are three parties, there is turkey, there is russia, there is ukraine. and this document provides many points, but the most important, in these in this agreement, is the freezing of the war along the existing front line, the obligation to hold referendums in 2040, all-ukrainian on ukraine's foreign policy course, as well as referendums between under international control in all ukrainian territories annexed by russia at the time of the freezing of the war, and guarantees of ukraine's non-aligned status until... 1040, the exchange of prisoners shaped everyone for everyone , russia does not oppose ukraine's accession to the european union. all these points, of course, they look like a delusion, because by 2040 , russia can generally do the maximum to ensure

that ukraine does not exist. and this year 2040 is mine very reminiscent, remember, these are the term of validity or term of stay of the black sea fleet of russia. extended in 2010 in the kharkiv agreements until 2042, just in this draft of the contract, which is not clear from which side he got there in this new newspaper, or if he is invented at all, but the impression is that it is the russians who are launching another ipso , or they are playing with these agreements in order to say: listen, we have an agreement, we don't need this peace summit, we have our own vision, here... through the mediation of turkey, we can to suggest that you say how likely it is that this agreement is authentic and that such proposals can somehow reach official kyiv, may i ask you, mr. serhiy, and novaya gazeta europa is this

russian publication in exile, if i am not mistaken , at one time, when we were conducting ukrainian-turkish dialogues...we were preparing a study on the strategic partnership of ukraine-turkey, i was there in istanbul, they tried to slip this newspaper to me, i threw it in the trash, i hope those who, even if she turkish, i threw it in the trash, not because i don't respect journalists there, but simply because we were there then, i thought there were calls for the unity of the slavs, there were some such complicated things that we should hold a russian forum in almaty. union because of this, because of the content of this newspaper, i did it that way, now let's discuss everything that appears somewhere, for example, i saw in the kurdistan story there, well , i'll say it right away, it's such a joke and it was written there about the creation of greater kurdistan, that there are

mediators that turkey wants in exchange on its membership in the european union, do you think that the official structures of turkey will make such a... comment, and why should we comment on this, so i think that we should stop at this and not think about what is not there. the official position of turkey, as we know, is not like that at all. let's then talk about china, because china is one of the possible participants of this global peace summit, and lavrov flew there for talks, olaf scholz is going there, and in the end, sieden himself. he is going to europe in may. china is ready to cooperate with russia for development of pragmatic cooperation. this was once again stated by the spokeswoman of the ministry of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china maoning. let's listen to what the chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman said. china will continue to support

russia in its development and revival under the leadership of president vladimir putin, and support the russian people on their self- chosen path. over the past 75 years, which have passed since the establishment of diplomatic relations between china and russia, sino-russian relations have come a long way, enduring the winds and rains. based on... the rejection of alliances, non-confrontation and no targeting any third party, china and russia have committed to long-term good-neighborliness and friendship, deepened comprehensive strategic coordination, and formed a new paradigm of relations between major countries. this was apparently in response to anthony blinken, the united states secretary of state, who met with david cameron and expressed concern about the character. cooperation by russia and some other countries, let's listen to blinken. this is

a constant challenge. we see weapons, we see technologies to support defense industrial base in russia, coming from north korea, iran, china. this is an area of ​​particular concern not only for the united states and the united kingdom, but also for many of our allies and partners across europe. and one more. detail washington has warned that it will hold beijing responsible if moscow makes progress in ukraine against the backdrop of deepening cooperation between the russian federation and china, us deputy secretary of state kurt kempel said. here, mr. valery, how do you assess china's current role and opportunities our western partners to induce china to non-cooperation, to military non-cooperation or... not so broad cooperation with the russian federation, since washington believes that the loss of ukraine in ukraine will

mean that beijing will be responsible for this, well, we will not discuss the power of china and its influence in the world, yes, that is, it is clear, he thinks that he is not the first and not the second already today, but soon he wants to be the first, i think that this is... very optimistic, because in my opinion the u.s. will remain the leader in the near future, but there are indeed certain problems internal in the united states, and this russian war against ukraine, against, in fact against nato, against the countries of the european union, it feeds china's confidence a little bit that russia will somehow get something out of the way, and sitsinpin will not have to be ashamed of his failures and... the defeats, well, now they are obvious, because now putin has already deported that here we are beating, breaking, and this position

of china is cynical, they see it all, unfortunately, their position is not balanced, well, that's it b i stopped because china is a big country, with with which ukraine to build relations, but it is necessary to clearly understand that the united states can be our ally, but china will definitely not be, and we must proceed from this with good-neighborly ... any kind of relations with china, which, by the way, we still have strategic partnership has been recorded so far, so it really is not that there is a strategic partnership, but it will be necessary to build these relations in a new way, they will already be built according to the results of the russian war against ukraine, now with regard to how to react, well, look , came out then mr salevan, jake salevan is in the white house and said that america has no confirmation of aid to china, russia. and i don't have such confirmations in my hands. that is, if we

had specific confirmations, that is, well, for example, even the transfer of space images by chinese companies for the military needs of russia, this is a subject of conversation with the chinese side. and we don't need the usa here, we can talk about it on a bilateral level. that is, that is why i think that precisely working with china should be understood as more work. diplomacy, politics, work of interests, with it will be impossible for china to build a single understanding of values, unfortunately, they have different approaches, they are closer to russian ones, and this is a fact, and therefore it also brings the countries closer together, and geopolitical interests, china is interested in weakening the united states, it believes that in this way, that is, by weakening the united states, by showing the inability to do something... to do, it achieves its results, so the question for the united states is whether it has the ability

to counter such a position of china, obviously there is, obviously there is, but i don't know to what extent they will this phasedness is not properly understood only in statements, but also in actions, there are 800 billion chinese exports to the usa, this is of course such a weight that a third of it can be stopped. then and china's economy will stop due to its current mortgage crisis, well, there is a real estate market there, that is, there is a sag, the pace is not the same, and of course china... we need to think about it now, so, yes, it can collapse everything, and the us will experience problems in the medium term, but if the issue of security is put first, then the us has important influences today, they will decrease as time goes on will go further, the fewer there will be, in my opinion, in the perspective of a few years, what will happen next, no one knows, but in this perspective

it would be better to orientate more now, i emphasize once again, public statements are good, but here some concrete steps are needed, well , the administration of the united states is doing it, sanctions are imposed on companies in europe, china, which sold certain things to the russians there, but still, unfortunately, this dialogue between san francisco, president biden and the leader of china xizenpin, it , unfortunately, only one removed the questions, mainly nuclear threats, left many questions open, so it is very... complicated, a complicated thing, and i will say this, it is impossible to simultaneously try to have china there at the peace summit in geneva and at the same time see what china is now negotiates with the russians, that is, in my opinion, china's position is very balanced today, and this is

a problem that we, ukraine, unfortunately, cannot solve. a few more questions, eh... mr. valery, in the context of what is happening and what is articulated by moscow, the ukrainian a trace was found there a long time ago in the kroku city hall terrorist attack, and this week, the tracer of the russian federation began to tie the ukrainian company burisma there, which, by the way, for some time, was involved in which biden's son hunter was involved, and now they are talking about that there is money or. i don't know if there were any payments related to burisma, jake sullivan, who you mentioned, the white house national security advisor, called the allegations nonsense, let's hear what he said, it's nonsense, russia knows what idil has done attack in moscow, we know that idil

carried out an attack in moscow, we warned russia in advance about a terrorist attack in moscow, everything else is just noise. who are these statements aimed at in moscow, regarding the involvement of the united states of america and ukraine, exclusively for the internal audience, or is there an external audience that can believe in the delusions that putin, lavrov and all the others are carrying? you know, delusions are good, once they will be brushed away like flies, but unfortunately, these flies... they fly on, this is a whole operation, i see that they are again russia renewed the information and psychological operation, firstly, secondly, the underhand operation is obvious in the usa, i will say very briefly who is targeted, one person, donald trump, everything, everything is targeted for him, that is, they, they, they play along with trump in this situation, well, they are actually looming and we

are, to donald trump from... do some things for us, and we also, you see, do things for you, because this will obviously be used again in the election campaign, this whole story against the current president, although this page is already closed, and they will promote it again, yes that there is nothing strange here for me, and what seems delusional in conscious people, in fact, in general, people are not so familiar with the situation, they do not know what reports there are, the intelligence committee. senate did, i will tell you, until now this issue is still swirling somewhere in the american media, there are all the cases, that is, that is why they are there, they know what they are doing, it is active information work, and unfortunately, communication, well, i will say so , my subjective opinion, this is how russia is showing donald trump, take steps to stop the arms supply now

ukraine, and we will be very useful for you in such actions in the future, that's for sure. signal, but this is, as leonid danylovych kuchma said, this was all, and trump, and burizma, and zelensky, the conversation of july 2019, well, it will happen again, i know that they, you know, you won’t come up with anything super new there, they will involve ukraine again, and the most important thing for us here , by the way, few people know that there are conclusions on the 2016 campaign, that ukraine did not interfere in the campaign, that... these are exhibits of the election commission, where the republicans did not want to be there to publish all this, but they were equally forced, that is, there is already a clear report of the senate committee on intelligence, that it was planned. the russian operation, these people are already sitting, or have run away, you saw, under the sanctions in ukraine, in russia, they hid, but we all

understand, all the same, that this will not stop even a hip misconception in ukraine, but ask an average ukrainian now , even commentators, ask such a question, yes, ukraine really planned something against trump in the last election there or intervened there. everyone will say, yes, of course, everyone is for hillary clinton were, well, you understand, stereotypes can be exploited a second time, if they are stereotypes, they can be exploited further, and russia will do it, and, as last time, employees of the special services will be involved in this, as we know, they are already in these reports, their names are there, and i assure you, it is funny for me to watch it, but i will say my observation, that employee of the russian special services who sent... there all sorts of delusions about ukraine for publication in various newspapers, in particular in politika, financial times, he is already included in this work again, and i would not be here,

you know, i carefully looked at everything, including the cleanliness of all those contacts of our official structures that will be with different people, and this does not mean that we do not need to work, on the contrary, we must, and we must work with the trump team . especially after the congress in the summer, especially after the congress, as we did with two teams, it will definitely be necessary, because otherwise here, by the way, european politicians who did not do this in the 16th year, i know communication with by their colleagues, now they do it because they understood that it is simple to close the embassy for two months, as one european country did, but they simply closed it, well, it closed conditionally, only the administrative staff remained, and the diplomats went on vacation, because everyone really did not... expect that trump would be the president, we did not do that , we had the first conversation of the presidents somewhere, well, the fifth somewhere with all the world leaders, after the inauguration the same,

and now, of course, we have to work first of all with the biden administration, this is a difficult period for the work of all ukrainian structures, and i will say that from how we we will work actively, not avoid problems, because if we simply avoid them, sit somewhere and wait, we will lose, it is necessary... proactive work, proactive both inside the country and from outside, and this proactive work requires, you know, very great efforts and not only psychological and professional or physical, but also such abilities, skills that do not come to you in one day, this is an experience that is already an experience of successes and mistakes, which gives the opportunity to do things now. important for the country, so i think it is very important for us correctly assess the situation, and our narrative in america should be precisely in security issues,

even if it has already become part of the bilateral election debate, it is already so, but only in this aspect, who will help ukraine more, that is what all our effort. at the very end, but avoiding communication, for example, with opponents of the current administration, or , for example, not asking the question why lendlease still cannot be launched now, well, this is a wrong policy, the very end of our conversation, a small synchronicity from lukashenka, which believes that the positivists are trying to lead foreign troops into the republic of belarus to stage a terrorist attack like in the moscow suburbs, let's listen, we absolutely know, we absolutely know what they are doing there, running around various decision-making centers and advisers. from america to brussels, they ask for money, and the most important thing, give it to the crowd, the crowd, the crowd, to which the curators tell them, guys, the crowd has already been, we need something hotter, like moscow's

crocus city, god forbid, terrorist attacks, and weapons confrontation in belarus, the goal is to enter belarus and capture at least a piece of land, to declare their power and call here foreign, well, not mercenaries, already troops, they are the power. mr. valery, literally 20 seconds, what can you say to this self-proclaimed dictator and why is he scaring everyone again with foreign troops in the republic of belarus? well, i would, i would perceive it as one of the variants of their provocative actions, that is, we remember glyavits , that is, if he talks about such things that seem to us possessive, then the same cogibists are working there, that means in in principle, the school is one and the same, you must know. seriously analyze how prevent these provocations from his side. thank you. valery chaly, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine was on our air. friends, during this broadcast, we

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