a neutral attitude is desired, they applaud or , on the contrary, shout out of anger and despair, what are the attitudes about this law in the military, well , if you take into account that the military is a section of society, then the attitudes are approximately the same, there are differences, but everyone perfectly understands that finally a law has come into effect that will make changes to many laws and codes that finally. settles the problems and challenges we have had so far, and finally we will understand at least how the procedure will take place, who will be drafted, who will not be drafted, who is obliged to carry out mobilization processes, who will be involved in the mobilization of the military, who will be involved in support, notification and many, many other moments, which, even the same funding, assistance, many moments, who has the freedom. we will

already know that, at least in the first place, those who are demobilized are the persons of all persons with disabilities, those who are caregivers, relatives, but of the first order, if they are in a family relationship, so at least, you know, such a very an important step finally for the country to work in a single rhythm, in fact, in order for us to come out of that period of turbulence, where politically... discussions are continuous, it is also very good that the issue of recruiting is still raised there and quite seriously, and we see that, in fact, additionally already recruiting centers began to be created in regional cities, and, let's say, not just separate structures that carry out recruiting there for which separate parts, but recruiting centers that interact with each other, that work, that...

advise each other, it's positive of course, everyone has their own emotions, wishes, i cannot and do not want to say that there, you know, there are some extremes for or against, the army has a task, the army understands that it is necessary to defend first of all, and there is the most from it hope, after all, that reinforcements will be called for us, that the mobilization system itself will start working better, we hope that there will be less corruption. corruption risks, and there will be more efficiency, it is important, good that for me personally, for example, that we finally understand that the entire population of ukraine, who will be in reserve, will definitely undergo basic and professional education, in particular, especially persons from 18 to 25 years inclusive, and now we understand where they will undergo it, and it is also important that now local self-government bodies will be from... responsible for at least delivery and

assistance to reservists who are undergoing training, that military centers, that at training centers, that in military institutions, that even they will be obliged to also contribute to, say, the creation of shooting ranges, fire stations, this is positive, this is good, finally it will not translating from one sides clean one, thank you, sir, to you, thank you, yes, well, me, if you sum up your results. the answer to the first question is that clarity is better than fog, it is now more clear what is going on, yes, but i got the impression that the troops were not so much waiting for the mobilization law as for the demon mobilization law, because some of the boys and girls are standing already for two years, well, more than two years, and so on, and they want to carry out some kind of rotation, how much is the expectation of this new one for...

who will be accepted, i don't know when, and just well of the most important laws, how to initiate, i think no one knows, even the deputies do not know, but this is also the most important, one of inviting people to join the army, who i do not think that in general everyone wants to join the army, many people do not want to go, well not a minority at all, but still, they also happen, what do you think about this law on demobilization? demobilization, as i always said, is carried out in two, well it turns out in three cases, in two, it is when the army wins, or when the army loses, when the surrender is signed, demobilization, if hostilities last for years, can be carried out on the condition that there are qualitatively demobilized people and there is someone to replace them, at least according to the level of classification and qualifications. and the training

of people, those who will be demobilized, in terms of rotation, this is also the question, meaning rotations for the recovery of entire military units. in parts, compounds, partly it was done before, partly it is already done now, but again it depends on where the combat units are, in under what conditions and to what extent the realities allow demobilization, make it possible to carry out rotation, and here it is still good that the military command is directly responsible for this, because if it is announced publicly, in general, let's say which brigades, when they will... pass rotation, which units, in which directions, well, we understand that on the march, in fact, any military unit, military unit is very vulnerable, so it is better to entrust it to those who are really pro-military, let them determine internally, we will know, anyway personal storage

will provide him with information when someone is moving where, whether to restore or to replace other positions of our brothers, because rotation over... is of course a complicated process, an extremely complicated process, because it moves in an instant, moves in columns, dozens, hundreds units of equipment, thousands of people, they need to be changed even in positions so that the enemy does not take advantage of the opportunity, does not conduct some offensive operation, say, at the moment when units are being replaced, so that there is no breakthrough and danger on the front line, so these things really have to be done. military, such things should not be regulated by civilians or people who have very little knowledge and in this regard, in order to do that, i understood, thank you, obviously we will not touch on some closed topics, secret, but here is what i want

to ask: you , or people involved in rotations, mobilizations, demobilizations, reservists and so on and so forth. you can already imagine the algorithm of action of a 20 or 23-year-old boy or girl, who is she who receives the summons, where is she going, what is she with come on, i remember when i was taken into the soviet army, there was a spoon, a mug, a hairstyle - zero, this one, that one was, that phrase was, that is, everything was simple in the soviet army. conditional mykola veresen, who is 2 there 3 years old, so here he is this person this this this there

he got it, he comes, he goes, he knows what to take, he roughly understands, well, he does not know where he is, he, but he understands that he will have three months of training and... there are officers to be trained in the place where he will be trained, there is transport to get him to send there and so on, these are such everyday, well, military and everyday stories, so that people understand that they will be waiting there for almost six months, well, so that conditional mykola veresen gets into the army, conditional ivan tymochko should hand him not a summons, actually not a mobilization license. summons, and to clarify the data, when he arrives, passes, will provide documents, if he has such legal grounds, not to be mobilized, he will not be mobilized, will simply be entered in the register and excluded from the lists of conscripts, if he

is recognized suitable, he will be told in which the day at which time to appear at the recruiting center, if he will have an already ready relationship with some army. units, or, if he decides to go to some service himself, he will be helped, if not, then according to the distribution plans there, he will be directed to those units and to the military specialty that will approximately correspond to his civilian education, and this is actually very important, or his level of civilian knowledge, besides that he always has the chance to go to the recruiting center, where he has much more... information directly about service in separate military units, they will give a relationship, even show him some information videos, give him maximum information, that is, in fact , a person who understands that he will serve,

he has enough time to find out all the possible most for them, say, comfortable conditions of service in the army or the most suitable. conditions for him, of course, if a person will, according to the summons, simply come and, let's say, not spend any time for the period of adaptation, entering the army. he had as soft as possible, then he all this will take place in relation to the statutes, in relation to the rules, so in relation to each military specialty there are training terms, and they are completely different, that the training of the basic, there is a gunner, that, say, a driver or an artilleryman, these are completely different things, because even the same gun commanders are sometimes trained, depending on the type and species, they are trained even for six months, that is, a person has... enough time even to undergo training in the army, those moments when somewhere at

the beginning of the war, when people after mobilization from or well, who came there in different ways circumstances, whether he received a summons at the checkpoint, or voluntarily, and was sent to advanced positions, it was, i do not want to deny that it did not happen, it was not total, but there were cases, now for this, by the way, a criminal responsibility throughout the chain of persons who are responsible for this, now it is very strictly monitored, and this is a fact, so here one must have some general physical state of health, or if that does not apply, then of course the appropriate number of documents. mr. ivan, but in the draft law, or already in the law says basic military training instead of fixed-term training, it's just that different words are used, is there any burden, is there any difference between this basic, which is the newest, which appeared in this law, and not fixed-term. the service i just told you about, the spoon, mug, and hairdo is zero. basic education

is a person in the chat to have small arms or weapons, respectively, or equipment, respectively, to what position she can be called, i repeat, this is the same procedure in essence, but with people who are in the reserve, who did not serve in the military service, but aged from 18 to 20. 5 years and then professional - this is already a narrow, narrow direction in which a person will study directly, well, you see again that a civilian in peacetime, in peacetime, weighs up to 5 months, and at the choice of the citizen himself, when he determines it, in the conditions of martial law, it is 3 months, this training will continue even during the draft, if he decides that his, what he wants for another. specialty, will always have the opportunity to transfer. mr. ivan, you disappeared, i hope we

will be rebooted now, already appeared, thank you very much. the last, probably the question, when you say, i just see quite such an aggressive discussion about the fact that there are parts that organize recruiting themselves, and you just said that you can do this, and you can do that, and they say that this it's cool that some... part is there, it's all there by itself, and others can't do it, that's how critics say it should be, if this army is the only mechanism, and as a temporary option, it's possible that here i am mykola veresen , i am 23 years old, i learned somewhere about there's an airborne assault brigade or something, i called, they say, okay, we 'll train you, tatt, but the army can't have rifles of different calibers. approaches should be a single, single approach, what do you say? as a matter of fact

, the introduction of recruiting centers was introduced as an experimental and adaptive option, and now it will spread completely throughout ukraine, and each of the military units that deems it necessary will create recruiting centers, and this is now mandatory for the authorities local self-government, executive authorities to facilitate the premises as much as possible. and a logistical base for those military units that consider or want a recruiting center to operate. in the future, such recruiting centers will already work, and they already work in the essence of interaction with picking centers, but still, well, i understand, there is such a maximum dream of the future that recruiting centers and picking centers will become a single whole, well, we will see how it will be, of course, that every military unit. which wants to have quality qualified personnel in its composition servicemen, she is interested

in creating such a recruiting center, and it is just a matter of time in the creation , thank you very much, thank you very much, ivan tymochko, serviceman, head of the reservist council of the ground forces of the armed forces of ukraine, was in touch with us, now there will be advertising, and then we will talk about energy, ukrainian energy, which is already suffering. several weeks from quite serious hits, hits from russian rockets and other explosions of explosive devices, and now advertising, please. we invite you to our sleep laboratory. matrolux is one of the largest manufacturers of orthopedic mattresses and furniture. mattrik is your versatile thin mattress for uneven surfaces at an affordable price. order

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every weekday, from 20 to 22 at espresso, once again good. health, indeed we will now talk about, we will talk about ukrainian energy industry. svyatoslav pavlyuk, executive director of the association of energy-efficient cities of ukraine, is a very relevant topic. good health, mr. svyatoslav, thank you for finding time to visit us on saturday. congratulations mykola. well, see everyone is asking, same thing, and i will be in this queue, how to prepare for the next winter eyes broken heat. power plants, hydroelectric plants, everything that has happened in the last few weeks, everyone is excited, how dangerous it is for the power supply of ukraine and ukrainian cities, what do you say, it will have consequences, it will have significant consequences, we can have nuclear power, for now, again

, for now, it may not be enough for everyone, but it will go. native schedule, this means that if someone has enough, then someone may not have enough, that is, we may, for example, in the evening and in the morning , not have electricity in some areas, some cities, so we need to prepare for the fact that we will have interruptions, , that we will have planned outages, there will be schedules of emergency outages and dispatchers will release this energy in portions for different populations points in order to somehow balance, those territories, those cities, those regions... which have their own generation, some local generation, they will feel better, the western regions, which have the opportunity to take transfers from the european union, from the nsi, from the network of the european union, maybe... it will be easier for them, theoretically we could transfer this electricity to the east to the same kharkov, but it is not a fact that our transmission system will work, which is also

constantly under attack, well, again after all, it is not a fact that the russians are not destroying the transmission system from nuclear power plants, that's why we're dealing with crazy people, that's why, in principle , you can expect anything you want, that's why everyone should do what they can do, i.e. stop watching, i.e.... we, as, as an audience, as citizens , as consumers, we can look at ukrenergo, we can look at ukrhydroenergo there, we can sprinkle our heads with ashes there, we can do something, that is, we can help them now, but the way we live, what we do, we cannot help them , i believe that they are specialists, and they they will do everything they can, can we do it or not, i have one question, mr. svislav, i’m sorry, but you say we can’t help, i agree with you to some extent, but here... i have very naive people, you know, no, not professional questions, if asked, for some reason i am convinced that ukrainians respond to such, will respond to such a request,

let's turn off everything for two hours today, or on thursdays, i don't know, every day or once a week the light that is, the president comes out and says: listen, well, we need, u there is no other way out for us, let's, let 's put everyone on an equal... on an equal footing, not only the western ones can afford it, the eastern and central ones can't, let's all get out, it will somehow help, or am i talking nonsense, well, we all don't we can turn off everything, because the power plant still needs to give out this electricity somewhere, that is , it will not help in any way. ukrenergo asked, in the words of its head, not to turn on appliances of high consumption, such as boilers, irons, machines, some waffle makers, electric stoves, not to turn them on from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. and i would listen as much as possible to this call, to this request, and that is how i would actually

act, i would not include it. next, well , we have a slightly changed picture of both production and consumption, if we used to have nuclear energy as our base, then in the summer our base will actually be solar energy, if it were not paradoxical, and we may have electricity superstructures during the day. energy, there will be a shortage of it in the evening, when the sun has set, so it is possible to transfer part of this energy-consuming large powerful equipment, its use to the sunny hours, i.e. in the afternoon, somewhere from 10 o'clock to four to five o'clock, we will have a surplus of electricity, but again, i would listen to ukrenergo here, because they are the only ones who can comment on the real picture of real consumption, production, no one else knows , they do not publicly announce that we have broken, that we have not... broken and they are the only ones who can give comments, they will not publicly show that here at the station it works, it does not work, they used to appear every minute, this schedule was available on the internet, now it is closed, therefore

transfer the consumption as much as possible, turn it off, for example, the boilers that you have for heating hot water, put them through a timer, there are such small timers, they cost uah 150-200 there, maybe a little more now, but these are small devices in the outlet, such as a timer, which... will turn on the spoiler for you, allow it to work from the outlet only at the hours you allow, then i would ask you to actually set the hours there, conditionally there from two to four, somewhere from 10 to on the 4th day, somewhere between 4 and 5 p.m. and at night somewhere like this itself, but again it will depend on the region, because in some regions we will have an excess of sunlight, solar electricity, in some areas we will not have it, and i am sure that kurenro will quickly comment and communicate these messages, where you can... what time is it, mr. svyatoslav, do we really have so much solar generation, i never thought about it, i never believed it, and now you say, and i have

the impression that i really don’t know something, it’s me money, by the way, the salary is paid for the fact that i know a lot, here i do not know, to me, i don’t know how to behave anymore, i will suggest that september’s bonuses are not paid for the last six months, because he doesn’t know anything, and we... we had the peak of installing such a solar system somewhere before the 22nd year, that’s how it is was, because the conditions we have are too favorable, i think they are distorted, because the green tariff, which we pay extra, which the energy system in general pays extra to the owners of green power plants, is too high, especially those plants , which were applied in the early 10s, they have this green tariff until the 30th year, but now we have it in general. the power is somewhere around 10 gw, that is, in principle, it is somewhere around the power of our nuclear plants, that is, but again this is weather-dependent generation, that is, the sun has set

and the general... the solar panel, it has fallen many times, many times it simply fell, so in the system there must be so-called balancing stations, when the sun went down, or a cloud came over there, some other station must be turned on in order to keep your reserves of 220 v and a frequency of 50 hz, that is, these must be turned on balancing so-called capacities, these can be hydroelectric power plants, thermal power plants, and these are exactly the plants that russia... in fact, struck last weeks, last month, and there are very few of them in the working system at the moment, so actually, well, if the network will be overloaded, then the dispatchers can only turn it off, they have no other option, you can eventually involve emergency assistance, or just commercially buy electricity from the european union network, but again , i will emphasize that electricity in the countries of the european union, it costs significantly

more than it costs in our country. in the end, it is not worth the 2.64 that the population pays, it is much more expensive, it's just that someone constantly pays extra for it, and in the situations in which we live, we cannot get new generation, new capacities, when business, who could invest money in this does not simply receive the profit that he should receive, that is , he cannot build a power plant with his money and sell electricity to himself at a loss, if electricity is currently at market. hovers somewhere around uah 7-8, then it is possible there, well relatively speaking, there at the expense of various contracts, it is possible to achieve a price there of 5-6, let it be, but it is definitely not 2.64, and here we are simply going to the situation , if you don't want to pay 5-7 hryvnias for electricity there, conventionally speaking, then you will buy it from a gasoline generator for 25, because in fact somewhere that is how much a kilowatt hour from a gasoline generator costs and, unfortunately, previously in

our energy company.. everyone subsidized everyone ukrhydroenergo subsidized consumers energoat of household consumers is not a fact , again, well, ukrenergo also subsidizes the green tariff, this is actually a tax on business, and business now, in fact, does not have that much space and does not have a large consumption, that is, give sources, give the main answer , you have exactly one and a half minutes, that's plenty. we will not die next winter and we will have blackouts, everyone should do what they can do at the city level, cities should start installing additional autonomous generators so that the heating systems could work, that is, each boiler house can have its own generator, so it will be expensive, but the heat will be supplied, at the level of the house, make sure that again no one gets stuck in the elevator, take care

if... you have an individual heating point, then make sure that you also have a generator and that it works and that it works with your individual heating point, so that the heat that the city will give you can be distributed throughout the house, at the level of apartments as well, well make sure you have batteries so that you may have some gas, some small appliances, so that you can warm up, especially take care of your relatives in the suburban houses, reconcile with them if you have a quarrel, buy them a firewood truck there, er... call, ask how yours is health, well, and in the end, agree with kum that kume, if you have trouble, then i will receive you, and if i have trouble, then i will come to you with mine, it will be absolutely, well, that's right, but we in principle, two rounds have already passed, each of us already knows where the bottlenecks are, where we have what is not works, we don't have individual gas boilers, so we need to make sure that we have an inverter and a battery so that this gas boiler can heat our apartment, maybe you should have a cat generator. runs

on gas, not just gasoline, because the probability that there will be gas in the pipe is higher than the fact that we will have gasoline and diesel there, because these are also imported goods, but we still have gas a little of your own, so do what you can do in your own place with your own consumption, that will be the best thank you very much, thank you very much, sviatoslav pavlyuk, executive director of the association of energy-efficient cities of ukraine, was in touch with us, and now news from iryna koval and... and everyone from the whole espresso tv community, everyone was working, everyone was preparing, now listen to ms. iryna , and then in 15 minutes, i'll be back. thank you, mr. mykola, i will tell you about the most important thing in a moment, wait.