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show your example, there are bodies of state power, there are bodies of local self-government, there is a whole series of state enterprises, show us, we will not have more men, there is someone to replace, there are women, there are men who are not subject to mobilization, please use this, determine the terms for yourself, set yourself a task, a year and a half and carry out this rotation in order for the society to be ukrainian. at least approaching justice, because today it turns out that those who started the defense of the state must continue it until the victory the end, therefore it is difficult enough, believe me, morally, this uncertainty is morally oppressing many people, it raises many questions, we have a whole series of social disorders, such as ruptures. marriages and
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demographic decline, we have a consequence of all this, because this injustice creates further problems in society. you already mentioned demobilization, yes, this is actually the norm or the removal of this norm, to be precise, actually provoked a big scandal in society and among the deputies. why do you think this happened? why actually these norms were eventually removed, because in principle they were both in the initial version of the draft law, you still remember that december, and in the final, allegedly version, which was still as of the beginning of the week, whether demobilization is generally needed at the moment, and the second question, actually, why it was removed specifically now from this law. project, you
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are asking the right questions, but the answer is on the surface, it is in actual combat operations, in the promotion of the russian offensive on ukrainian territory, in the need to conduct military operations for the defense of the state already now, not tomorrow, not the day after tomorrow, right now, we don’t have other people who are currently defending, so commander-in-chief syrskyi rightly noted that before... the need, if this issue were to be worked out qualitatively, you cannot now tell people that you are demotivating the operational factor, you're going to be demobilized tomorrow, so let's face it, we don't have a second army right now to replace the one that's fighting, i think there's a whole host of other arguments that can be made, but... for
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people who are directly now on the front, the most important thing is that this issue has not gone anywhere, it will be considered and this decision will be made, another thing is that we need time to prepare a high-quality replacement, we cannot replace high-quality ones with low-quality ones, that is , this is a certain period for preparation subdivisions, reconciliation and then replacements for those guys who were recaptured for 36 months and. already and more, of course, and in order for these people to be able to rest for a certain time, how, in what way - the formula will be constructed, whether 3624, or 36-12 or in some other way, i don't know, it must be taken into account, i think that this is precisely why i asked the commander-in-chief to postpone this issue so that it would be possible to carry out qualitative defense operations now. rather than
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questioning the motivation of people who are already at the front, for which i am very grateful to every soldier, and their work, their contribution for more than 39 months, or 27 months, it is invaluable, i think that ukrainian society will find an opportunity to thank the soldiers for this contribution, i definitely agree with you here, regarding the fact that we should be grateful to our soldiers and help them as much as possible, which is what we do every day. you have already mentioned motivational norms, yes, motivation, it must be there, because we see that certain such processes, disputes, i would say, and perhaps even the reluctance of some part of society to join the defense forces are taking place in society , to the armed... forces of ukraine, in your
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opinion, there are motivational norms in this draft law, do you need to add any more, here you are, as, by the way, the former, including. legislator, i think, in this case could to advise the current legislators and, in principle, also provide their assessment regarding these motivational norms, which, in my opinion, are very important. well, the main motivation, i will explain to you as a military man, because now what is happening at the front is the most important for the state and society in general. my position as a military man is that the main tools of motivation. is to let people understand where they are going, what knowledge, skills, abilities they should have, should have, which they will receive in order to be effective, believe me, it is not a salary, the main the motivator, the main motivator is the presence of a quality commander, quality training,
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effective weapons for the performance of this or that task, so if we wrote it into law, it would be motivation, maybe motivation... maybe some rest period is mandatory, unconditional, that is, i, as a commander , plan operations for a certain period and have to let people go there for a week or two, i don't know how it should be right, but they should be able to have a rest after a long active combat encounter, whether on land, whether in the air or when conducting other military operations, but the main... motivator is an understanding of the future, in my opinion, and the formation of a volunteer army, these volunteer tools, when , for example, today the mobilization system is built in such a way that if i i will even convince you personally to come to my unit, it is not
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a fact that i can provide it, that is, you will go, get documents at the tsk, and after studying at the training center you will be distributed as they want it... not personnel management, personnel centers, anyone, but not the commander who invited you to serve, so this is a big problem, i am in favor of returning these tools of the cossack army, the volunteer army, to the body of the document, allowing us, as commanders, to invite, so it was , by the way, at the beginning of the full-scale war in february 24th, 22nd year, therefore... why it cannot be done now, i do not understand, we ourselves are ready to teach people, we ourselves are ready to teach, if we have something not enough, for example, we have questions about engineering training, we we use training centers, we send people there, they undergo
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additional training with us, because we cannot physically give them such a quality of training, why they don't trust us in this matter, i don't really understand why the personnel bodies are sent. in the superstructure of this, it is also unclear, the electronic form of military registration allows for efficient, timely and without the possibility of deception from all sides to carry out the movement of a serviceman, if i, as a commander , invite him, then the part from which i am taking him cannot but let him go, and it would be immediately and by determining the effectiveness of commanders, if a lot of people are coming from the commander, from... accordingly , something is not right there, if a person has 100% equipment and people ask him for it , in his unit, in his military unit, accordingly, this person is efficient, he can and is capable to carry out military tasks of combat effectively, why
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do we turn away from this, i don't understand why, when building or protecting democracy, we put first not'. democratic ways of attracting people to the army, it seems to me that it is necessary to return to this, to allow, as at the beginning of the war, it was customary to take people to yourself, and this was also an effective way of conducting additional mobilization. i don't understand why it should be abandoned. i say once again that an effective tool for accounting should be an electronic database, not by sending personnel agencies. by the way. about the internal capabilities of the armed forces themselves to carry out such internal mobilization in the armed forces, in each part, a large one, there are personnel units, there are formation, formation units, and for example, we could, as the armed forces strength, to say that from such and such a number we,
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there from june 1, refuse men who are subject to mobilization. in order for them to be assigned to these units, in the military unit, in the personnel units, in the rear, and in this way we could carry out internal rotation, why this is not carried out. it is not clear, and the commander-in-chief supports it, i think that we will definitely return to this issue internally, and we have such internal reserves, and we would be able to further train, train and send these people to the relevant combat units. before by the adoption of the draft law on mobilization, the commander of the united forces, the armed forces. lieutenant general of ukraine yuriy sodol stated that there is a certain problem with
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the number of personnel in our ukrainian units, in the armed forces of ukraine. and actually, he talked about the fact that the occupiers actually have, relatively speaking, a larger number of the same personnel. do you confirm this information at this time, or can we talk. really about the fact that we currently have an insufficient number of people, especially in certain positions in the military, and in general, to what extent this problem can be solved or not solved in the coming months, it is especially important in the context of the fact that the occupiers, for all the information that is coming in now, are preparing the next stage of the so-called offensive. so mobilization, here is your opinion, here it is really
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a problem, and what should we do, is there a possibility to fix it in the coming months? well, first of all, i had the honor of serving with yuri ivanovich, sodel in the marine corps, an absolutely insightful general who cares about personnel, i think that his assessment of the situation is true, given the objective the circumstances of both the ukrainian mobilization and the russian mobilization, so i will compare them, i will not be responsible for quantitative indicators, but the fact that there is an advantage, of course, it exists for objective reasons, now what is our answer, we are again trying to answer linearly, introducing exactly the same tools that russia is introducing. and it doesn't work like that, and if we continue to insist on linear mobilization,
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effectively, ineffectively, well, it won't work, we actually have the current law on mobilization no different from the tools that will be involved, well now with the passed law, to conduct a check on the disabled or the disability that people received in the period from 24 to february 22 of the year until now, it is unlikely that this is such a substantial strengthening of the armed forces, therefore , considering the fact that it does not work linearly , it is necessary to make non-linear decisions, such as the creation of volunteer units and the authority of commanders to attract people, technical re-equipment, that is, technical mobilization, i think that these two main directions could change the situation on the battlefield until... but with the appearance of an air
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component in the ukrainian army, this would allow us to say not only that we can stabilize the front on today's line, but also the possibility of considering some counteroffensive operations in the future, so the main task now is to explain to ukrainian society why we refused demobilization right in this for... and why this issue must be considered as soon as possible in the next draft laws, and how to voluntarily convince people to go get the appropriate qualifications and help by directly participating in the armed forces forces or other military formations of the defense forces to take part in the defense of the state, there are a number of issues that have already been resolved, in particular regarding the convicts. persons for minor crimes, i believe that this is the right step, there are a number
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of other questions regarding people who have left, including illegally crossing the state border, i think that the need for such an open offer from the state in order for these people returned to ukraine, if they want to protect it, and such a bill... will be adopted soon or on the initiative supreme commander-in-chief or on the initiative of the leadership of the armed forces of ukraine. we have already come to the questions there. in the coming months, yes, issues of a possible offensive of the occupiers, bild, financial times are very actively writing, in general , the foreign press is very active now types recently very yellow, therefore very very active and everyone and everyone in ukraine today also picks up this information, reproduces it all tv channels, all internet media and
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so on and so on, as far as possible... it is possible, as far as such actions are possible of the occupiers closer to the summer in the summer, by the way , kyrylo budanov, the head of ukrainian intelligence, also spoke about this, about the fact that it is quite possible that another offensive in several directions is possible in may, june, july, so how professional and professional are you from your point of view , see such an opportunity. and what would ukraine need to do in order to make such actions of the occupiers impossible? well, i walk the land from kupyansk to beryslav and kherson, but ibudanov and the commander-in-chief definitely have more data intelligence, and in fact i only know the ukrainian side and the situation in
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ukrainian army, so i am sure that we will be ready for any reconnaissance. events, taking into account the fact that the preparation of reserves, and western support, and ukrainian weapons manufacturers, we are able, at least in the ground component, to change the situation already now, i say once again, i am deep in the topic of ground-based automated systems, how they are used , and experience and da vinci wolves of other units. prove that this is an effective means of defeating the enemy, there is a whole series of developments in unmanned aerial vehicles, which convince me that this is one of the tools, one of the component weapons of victory, but the main component that will ensure and make impossible, let's say,
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an effective offensive of the enemy, is the air company. therefore, without the air component, unfortunately, we cannot talk about the stability of the front. today, all that you see from open sources of information about the success, conditional, of the destruction of ukrainian cities and villages, the enemy, is the air component, it is guided and unguided aerial bombs, it is the use of missiles, including strategic aviation. therefore, taking into account the fact that our intelligence, and security service units, and intelligence units of the combined military have all the available information, i think that in the near future we will solve this issue in a non-linear way, we have the tools for this, including unmanned aerial vehicles,
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long-range damage is, use, you have seen it in open sources of information. in the near future you will see even more cotton, even more affected russian facilities, including those related to the air component of the enemy forces, so with anticipation f-16, we will carry out ours, complete what we have started to destroy the air force of the russian federation. the last three weeks, they are so pretty hard. for ukrainian society and for ukrainian air defense, here, i think, no one argues for and, accordingly, for the energy industry, respectively, for ordinary ordinary people who see all this, who observe all this, in fact, mr. pavle, this can be considered an element of intimidation, or
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an element of preparation for some offensive? from the side of the occupiers, yes, still ukrainian society, unfortunately, we can see, quite, quite so during these weeks, disunited in this regard, and we must work to ensure that society is united and understands that this is a war, that this, that this war, that this is the enemy, who will continue to do this, what, what do we have to do in this case, what do we... have to counter in this case, can we counter something in the coming weeks, if the occupiers continue to hit our energy, and in the end on any ukrainian objects, which has become a very... frequent phenomenon during the last years there two, three or four weeks, one would like to say that the same should be done with moscow and st. petersburg,
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in fact it is so, but we energy and the destruction of the energy infrastructure is definitely a unifying factor for ukrainian society, how the state and power institutions will react to this, i think, will effectively respond to the decentralization of energy supply. this is not only a minus, but also a plus, maybe we will see some small energy or nuclear reactors, like kondyu, the canadians had projects there or something else, we will not finally build two more units khmelnytska, which will again be from above, yes, which may be affected a little not the next day, but we will see some systems of decentralization around these projects. er and the state and society can come together, it can be underground facilities that will be protected accordingly, in terms of the fact that these
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strikes will continue, i think, yes, they will continue, and the task of our air force and everything society in order to minimize losses from such strikes, i think that both the air force and the defense forces in general are over it of ukraine are working. right now, while we are talking with you in this studio, and the means, i say once again, to work in advance on prejudice, such as the destruction of the aviation component, infrastructure, the production of shaheds, other tools, the production of missiles, it is already in the plans, i am sure 100%, although i do not know the ukrainian military leadership, so we will see all this in the coming months, we are... ready for the development of such events, we are planning this asymmetrical response and will carry out such works on the destruction of infrastructure and
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the air component of the armed forces, of course we would, it would calm us down and simplify our work , the presence of an aviation air component in the near future, in particular with the appearance of the f-16 and the corresponding missiles, which can... cause irreparable losses to the invaders, and of course, we need air defense, yes, we need patriot systems, both the military and politicians talk about this, and by the way, there are, believe me, cheaper systems, and we are already using them, and there are unique ukrainian developments, in particular regarding the modernization of missiles air base. we already have them , and we have modernized the missiles, mr. pavle, thank you for your analysis, for your thoughts,
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