power from the allies will increase, because you see, it directly depends on our successes, there were successes, we were supplied with more or less weapons there, well, i can’t help but ask whether we should now take care of increasing the number of pilots who can use these f-16 planes, because now we are talking about the optimal figure there, like 12 pilots, shouldn’t we still think about increasing the staff, so that later this will not be a deterrent factor in obtaining planes, well, we already have a group of young people studying pilots, in fact without combat experience, yes she has already been trained in great britain, and i think this practice should be continued, and the more pilots we have, the easier it will be for us... so, well,

understand, we will get one, maximum, one aircraft brigade, that's 22 squadrons, 24 aircraft, and the russians can oppose us with up to 500 aircraft of new models, that is, in terms of the number, we also have to somehow increase the number of these aircraft, because there will be losses, well, of course, war is war, there will be losses of aircraft , the loss of pilots, in relation to the total number, well, it is necessary look, assess the level of aircraft losses after a certain period of at least a few months of combat use of these aircraft, but for now i believe that it is necessary to feed as many pilots as possible, if there is such a possibility, if the new sets are from the kharkiv institute of the air force, or maybe the university of the air force, yes , you can send as much as possible. our boys in order

to train not only pilots, but also ground personnel, and we must have a supply of pilots, because planes, you see, we were promised up to 60 planes, plus belgium will also be decommissioned, will be filmed by other countries that have improved these machines, well, there are, there are opportunities, i think there are opportunities to increase their number, i think that... if everything goes well with the united states, they also have more than a hundred aircraft in warehouses, but not in warehouses, there is a storage base in arizona and there are up to a hundred aircraft, and i think that , after all, it is too early to say about the optimal number, it will show, the experience of combat operations will show. i hope that the experience of combat operations will be effective enough and i can't at the very end of ours. conspiracies do not ask about others

american planes, about a10 and ndermbolts, which are actually being removed from the arsenal of the american army, and a number of american publications wrote about the fact that the secretary of the us air force said that ukraine was not interested in receiving these planes, although there were apparently previous proposals for a possible transfer these planes to ukraine, although the same minister says that... the planes are old, the planes are difficult to operate, but a number of ukrainian publications picked up this topic again, that it seems appropriate to take on these planes for the needs of the armed forces, what are your assessments of such proposals and the rationality of such opportunities? well, you yourself say that the optimal number of pilots is needed for the f16, right? if we start training pilots on the a10, yes, it will be just a... suicidal reaction, because this

aircraft, first of all, is very vulnerable, in fact, it is a flying cannon, which is a 30 mm cannon, huge, very powerful, she, you know, her, the barrel can be put on a bucket, it has such a huge diameter, yes, a very powerful gun, but the range of damage of the entire gun is 3 km, that is, the plane instantly will be destroyed, it is designed for... actions in conditions of absolute dominance in the air, that is , there are not, there should not be any anti-aircraft missile systems in the area of ​​its effect, and the russians have a short-range armor there, and yes, there is also an average range of the beech, there is also a long range of the s-300, s-400, yes, that is, these planes, they will not even be able to hit, strike any enemy , they will be destroyed on approach, i am not talking about the fact that this plane is not capable of ... conducting

air combat , it is not universal, it is just an attack aircraft, it is not capable of carrying missiles amram and do some dogfights, yes he doesn't have a radar station. that is, it is not even capable of detecting an enemy aircraft at a long distance in order to escape in time, it is not fast, and therefore, if we get these aircraft, it will be a waste of our resources, efforts, money, because we will still have to operate them, yes , as well as the flight crew, that is, those who write about the fact that we need such planes, well, let them read a little and read something about this one. the plane and the conditions of its use, well, i will say one phrase that the americans believed that they had somewhere there 500 such aircraft during the cold war, and they believed that they would be enough for two weeks of hostilities. mr. valery, thank you very much for these explanations about both the a10 and the f-16. let me remind you that

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your company has developed and provides the use of various unmanned systems, including fpv drones. osa or under the osa brand, kamikaze attack drones, there is a repulse of kyivan rus. which models of your drones are currently most actively used on the battlefield and for what? is the greatest demand from our military? is the demand for long-range drones, such as interceptors, is 40 km away, 30 km away, that is, uh, those that hit targets, that is, already by the line of contact, that pass through the rebov obstacles that can be proved, or by gps coordinates, if there there is such a possibility, or... the operators themselves can reach the target,

we are also actively cooperating with the special services for the use of the wasp drone, but i cannot say anything here, because this is closed information, we are focusing on it now it is precisely on the drones that they will be repulsed and they will already be there well, the main brand. which will now be supplied to the front, orders for your systems, what about this, who is your main customer now, does the volume of current orders allow you to ensure the planned loading of your production? does not allow at all, and this situation is not only with me, not only with us, it means that we closed the contract with the national guard, now our guys are working with them on the application technology in the zaporizhzhia direction, there they are helping them

to work more professionally on the line collision, we periodically go there, so, but for example, here we are now finishing the production of 500 drones at our own expense, 10 bepaks in fact, unmanned aircraft complexes, and there is no contract yet, i also met... with high-ranking officials, spoke with the heads of uav departments, someone says , that there is no funding now for contracting, that is , there are no prospects for long-term contracting, it is clear, we are stopping production this month, and we will wait for the next steps, because every day is the cost of salaries, it is people who are hanging on armor that is, partly we booked someone, partly people are just afraid, because tomorrow

they can be taken away not because of their qualifications, but because of what is actually needed on the front line , people are really needed, but we are worried about the qualifications, the qualifications, the engineers, the assemblers, electronics engineers, and therefore, we still do not see prospects in this direction for the coming months, we have focused from... now very much on the supply of other types of weapons, air defense, we are working, well, by the way, the first contact was made, this, i think, such serious information became the first official supplier as a deal defense agent, this is a large german company that supplies iris systems, large radars there and so on, that is, we were the first to become official and passed compliance, we will now work with other large... german, french companies, etc. in the drone production of drones, this

is the story i told, well, this story is somewhat strange, because the president also talks about long-term contracts, which our enterprises seem to need, your enterprise has been engaged in the development of unmanned attack systems since the 14th year for different purposes, there is a practice of using it , there are military groups that use your complexes, and as i understand it... there is no adequate reaction from the ministry of defense, the ministry of digital and state special communications, that is, there is no order at all for your osa, or for repulse, or for kyiv rus, it turns out, well , look, there are a lot of wasps, that is, only the special services with which we work quite closely, they work for their tasks with us, but this is a separate work outside the state special forces of the ministry of defense, that is, the wasp of the wasp, which is... . such a military analogue of mavik, so just now they are realizing that these fpv drones,

which i spoke about, yes, they fulfill their mission, but you can’t spend the budget, 80% of the budget is only for fpv drones, which, well , they don’t work, what a great loss of theirs , that's why long-range bombers need to be financed, but not necessarily kamikaze, not necessarily those on... we also have kyivska rus for 800, but this line, the line 40, 30, 40, 50, 60 km, it is not contracted by the ministry today. defense is not contracted by the general staff, the general staff is giving applications and so far funds, as of yesterday i have information on contracting, they said that there is no such type of drone, well, it is also strange to me, but the situation is such that there are many manufacturers who are not contracted, you can make a cross-section of the market and ask who has what

capacity, how much they are contracted for these... these applications and to be able to really plan your own life, the life of your company for the near future, this is not available now, maybe someone is fully contracted, i have not seen such people yet, well yesterday, it seems there was a statement from kamyshin, who said that, relatively speaking, we are loaded there for 2 billion, we can produce products there for 20 billion, if i am not mistaken, and we need to look for... money, so that orders from our enterprises are made for foreign money, and maybe then there is another version, it can probably still reduce the number of enterprises that manufacture, but load them with work adequately in order to have a guaranteed quality and a guaranteed quantity of products, because it seems that you are not the only enterprise that does not have contracting, in particular there , the same

the leading company says, i don't have volumes for the next one. a year, and in fact , two months later, he also finds himself in a situation where he will not have an order for the prospect, and he is looking for variations, how to get out of this story? well, look, then there was no need to tell everyone that everyone who has the capabilities, capacity and permission to operate received nato codes, everyone will be contracted, these were the statements of more than one minister, not only fedorov there, not only not only... there the minister of defense, not only the chief of the general staff, everyone said, and the president including, he said that everyone who passes and can be supplied will all be contracted, these words passed everywhere, at all meetings we were told and so on, but this is not so, that is, everything turned out in such a way that there is a skew in such cheap drones that

burn en masse on the front lines, high-tech... logical things, in which funds are invested, minds are invested, intellectual potential, time, finances and so on are invested there, they, they turn out to be in a secondary place, and we have such an opinion that it is probably easier there, it is somehow easier to carry out some, shall we say, incorrect procedures, then they understood this drone, it was assembled from a chinese kit, it all went away. everything is clear quickly and so on, but where there is a technological process, where there is a serious engineering investment, where development needs to be constantly invested in rnd, it is already more difficult there, and therefore less funded, but it is really needed on the front line , and we are not fighting

only in a 10-km zone, we need 30, 40, 60 km... to damage the means of impression that the enemy has, means of suppression, headquarters, decision-making centers and so on, and this also needs to be developed, yes, maybe at the first stage it doesn’t work, you don’t get these impressions, but you change the frequencies, you work on it, this is a constant investment of your resource, your resource their people, the risk, because we, we leave in the collision zone. we risk the equipment that is not under contract, which we take at our own expense, collect volunteer funds and invest in order to leave and improve our domestic equipment, so that we do not have to buy it three times abroad, and these things it is necessary to develop, this is what we constantly say from

the very beginning of this executive-scale transformation, yes, we have been saying this since the 14th year, but a stage has come... there was a stage when, and here are the simple solutions, yes, to make there enterprises that quickly produce fpv , so even some deputies are already saying, oh, i have to do something, there is a lot of money, it is easy to do, recruit students there or this one , gather in the kitchen and so on, that is, everyone saw what is there, what is there money is easy, i bought a complete set, yes, it will come later comes and so on, but... i did everything and left, it is not protected from the enemy, it, it flies 10% to the target, yes, well, i am the first person sitting here who... showed the industrious commander-in-chief an fpv drone, i i showed him the first time, he saw it for the first time at the test site, when the americans were testing it, we showed our impressions at

the testing sites, we brought this story to the air force, but it was rejected. ftv was rejected then other developments in which no less than there are cheap drones in the eye, you need to do it seriously. investments and investments and to contract those companies that do something more than simple fp drones, and this is not happening now, and 80%, i repeat, of the budget goes to such cheap drones, and you talk to the advanced with the guys who now need tools, not only for 10 -15 km, and further, and they, they are not purchased, they, they are not invested in, this is such a story. and i'm not the only one who is so sad at punisher , ask punisher, he and i recently spoke there with max musyka, relatively speaking, the ideological inspirer of punisher, who

worked there for a while with the state, traveled and so on, the same situation in punisher, you see the same situation there, you say that in athlon, in artem, yes, so, in yunik, the same situation, aerial reconnaissance, i don’t know, maybe it changed there a month ago... . they said, but this is a story that is distorted and it should not continue to live like this, they should go back and deal with high-tech things, because this is a prospect, this is the future, unfortunately, of wars that will last a long time, well then i will ask about one party about a new official, about the head of a new kind of troops of unmanned forces, does he understand these risks? on the one hand, have you met with him, and on the other hand, it actually turns out that this procurement system was created on the basis of these state agencies for savings, which are based only on cost

indicators, then de facto this system actually goes against the the things you say that by buying cheap samples we will never have money for such things that will be resistant to reb, more reliable, more complex, but at the same time more expensive, so it goes. a little bit wrong here, no, no a little bit wrong, the procurement agency headed by marina bezruka, it is actually like a bank, a military, which is given orders by the general staff, what to purchase and where to purchase, and therefore, it actually fulfills the orders and needs given by the general staff, so it is up to them it cannot be said that they are not a correctable system, the problem is that... we do not understand who in the general staff makes the final decision, at least until today we did not understand this, that is, because it is based on previous orders

that were, i can already say, came orders where 70% are from incomprehensible companies, and some of the drones that are inserted into half of the procurement were inserted without even having certification, you can imagine, that is, we went through... 5 months of certification, tests on the front line, on training grounds, and so on , came to contracting, we were not contracted, but at the same time companies were promoted that did not have certification, but at the same time they were given orders to be financed, that is, some companies are not at all unclear on the market, there were, there were such question, i don't know how it will be now, and this is the first, second, indeed, under the previous management of derspeczvyazok, all that was taken, well, in a word, indicators of cheapness and non-comparison

of technical characteristics was a traditional method, that is, there was a head of management, who is no longer there, who was engaged in this, who could afford to make a new assessment of military, military equipment there, without having the qualifications for this, after... either the national guard or other units submitted an application and said: i need these drones, no, they were told, yes, we'd better buy it, who are you in order to say what the military needs when you sit in the office, that is , such things, they were, as they will be now, look, now the latest information is that funds have not been allocated for procurement, and now decisions will be made, which buy drones, well, let's see. how transparent it will be, how adequate it is and how much at least equivalently those capacities will be loaded, those capacities that are loaded in companies that...

were preparing for serious things, the release of serious things, and now they have, if not there will be a contract, to dissolve their own teams and close production and freeze it all, and then to thaw it all, it will take two to three months, and also the delivery of the complete set in parallel, it will also take two to three to four months, depending on what kind of kit you will make and in what volume, we... do not deviate from our strategy, we are creating an enterprise for the production of motors, which means that it is also not an easy thing, we do not have normal motors, no one produces them, we go into it analyzed six of these two chinese enterprises were identified, in the end one was chosen, because of such a history of lies from the chinese side , everything went through, and we will do it, we will do it, they were going

to buy it... well, a line for the production of motors, but if this is the case, contracting by the state is incomprehensible , then who will need these motors in the future, and well, so far in our country, well, we do not see all those statements that say that a million drones will be released there, yes, they can be released very easily, fp these are light drones, but they do not solve the cardinal problem on... difficult ones are needed drones, heavy kamikazes are needed, 3, 4, 5, 6 kg, in parallel with long-range strikes, yes, and these things that are there from a kilogram to two to three at a short distance, they do some of their tactical things, but they do not close these problems on the front, so this kind of history that has to change, definitely has to change, and the words that have been said that we will contract

all the... teams that have passed all the tests, the field tests, the combat tests, and who have the ability to and the means to release, this must be fulfilled, these words and promises from on the part of the state must be fulfilled, otherwise the state simply believes then it will not be possible, mr. valery, probably we will put a full stop here, because there really is nothing to add to your words, these are extremely important words related. with the fact that the state, officials must fulfill their promises made by the enterprises of the defense-industrial complex, when we hear good, loud statements about production, promotion and so on, and on the other hand, we have, sometimes we see a different reality, when the enterprise , which has been engaged in the creation of percussion complexes for a long time, aviation complexes of various purposes,

these enterprises should also... count on the support of the state, let me remind you that my interlocutor was valery borovyk, the chairman of the board of the new energy of ukraine alliance, the commander of the white eagle special unit of strike drones, and we see that his enterprise , in particular, the company there, the first contact, is now re-configuring itself on other projects related to air defense equipment, in particular, he mentioned the german company deal, this is defens del, it's just really a company, which... ensures the supply of air defense systems to ukraine, there are probably technological solutions where ukrainian enterprises can be partially involved, this is extremely important, but in general, if we talk about the results, now it is true that we are talking about dominance in the air , which was the topic of our program, we of course count on the support of our partners for the f-16, but in any case we should not forget about our domestic enterprises that manufacture unmanned systems for various

purposes and assistance. our enterprises it is no less important for these enterprises to provide our troops with products that destroy the enemy on the battlefield. these were the main takeaways from this program, stay tuned to the spresso channel, there will be a lot more to come. greetings to all viewers of espresso, yana yavomelnyk and the news editor sum up the

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