in my opinion, the hero of ukraine is roman chervinskyi, i know that presso also broadcasts and covers these trials, but recently there was a trial in kropyvnytskyi, look, the story called wagner gate was a litmus test for me, in general, the person whose name is andriy yermak . we were not the only ones who covered it, we were the holders of these secret documents, in which it was written in black and white that the special operation was canceled by the decision of the country's highest political command, and this decision was canceled by andriy yarmak, who gave this instruction in view of the true statements mr. borba, the former head of intelligence, so i held these papers in my hands and read the entire description before making this decision about the description of lightning, lightning. an operation that

i think, well, in the last 10 years, the world has not seen in view of a very subtle psychological process, and the recruitment of these militants, and b- in general, the raising of a plane and tracking them, then it’s all in a hurry, because why, because you can was to agree, it would disrupt the agreements with the dictators and his henchmen. well, trust in lukashenka, common, to trust lukashenka in a certain way moment, believing that he can be an intermediary chain between us and putin, well, this is a complete delusion, what were they thinking, in what world they lived and are living now, i do not know, but it is very dangerous. everyone who wants to cooperate with the russian federation in the form of signing some peace agreements directly. these people are traitors to our country,

i'm sorry, but i will speak categorically, that's why wagner gate showed who andriy yermak really is, and notice everyone who was involved in making the facts public, i mean from the officials and intelligence workers of the service security of ukraine around this special operation, or released and we don't know where they are, we can't even record the interview, because it's not clear where these people are. or they sit in prison, like mr. chervinskyi roman, who was accused of something, to which he has nothing to do, because the airfield where the shelling took place was there, was shelled from the first days of the war, and they decided that it was cherbinskyi who surrendered some coordinates, when before that there were already two shellings from the first days of the war, so this is a very, very sad story, and it says that everyone who... disagrees and

all those who pose a threat to them in publicizing important factors and facts will unfortunately be locked up or hidden. thank you, yanina, kateryna, what do you think, will the war and what is happening now in the country erase those questions, or will they cover up those questions that we had before the great war, because there are actually a lot of questions about zelenskyi it was, well, i remembered wagner gate, and jenina tells about it. and many other issues, the big construction, which was called the big theft, there was a lack of preparation for war, or ignoring the warnings of our westerners partners, that is, there are some questions, there are some questions that we have not received answers to, that is, during the last two years of the great war, whether we will get answers to these questions and whether zelenskiy can become the president of the country that will win there in the war, well, i'm saying it there now... in the future, and

then, well, it will be somehow awkward to ask him about it, well, regardless of the attitude towards the candidate or the president who may become a candidate in the upcoming elections, the very joy of the fact that ukraine will win and things can happen technically elections, it should unite us in this joy, let's say everyone, that's the main thing, i just like it some kind of dream, the end of the war with the victory of ukraine, the class of the question. will we know the answers to all the questions? quickly, probably not, but it seems to me that it was important for us to know them, and even more so if it happens in the near future that ukraine will win, we will prepare for the elections, and president zelensky, he will become a candidate and go to this step, to bog down again, then even in this election campaign there should already be a pre-election campaign these are all extremely important questions, because there should be openness here, if there is no state secret and so on. well, this

is very, very important and very revealing for people who do not forget all these facts and moments, for journalists who do not let them forget about it, because they are constantly reminded, answers must be given, and... if there were abuses, violations the law, then the ukrainian people should also see this in the investigations in the courts there and in fair verdicts. thank you, kateryna, a very short subtopic, colleagues: in ukraine, they began to block tiktok channels, which spread russian propaganda, as reported by the center for combating disinformation , 24 channels promoting pro-russian narratives have already been blocked, including ostap stakhiv lviv, oles kenyuz, diana pan. and dubinsky about, supershariy, well, that is, all those people who broadcast russian propaganda, now they are blocked, very briefly, yanina, what do you think, is

the state in our country effectively fighting russian propaganda on various platforms, well, how can she fight effectively? when instead of allocating funds for creation anti-propaganda product, it allocates for the creation of programs about the political power of the president, or the employment of former , unfortunately unsuccessful and undemanding, unfortunate workers of the 95th quarter, well, this is not a job, we do not have grants in our country for which journalists and their teams, editorials, anti-corruption, or... or anti-propaganda, i mean those that fight against russian fakes, propaganda, and insiders, they would fight so that the state would help. our youtube lives only at the expense of our viewers, only for the account of our viewers, my colleagues from

anti-corruption teams, investigative teams such as investigation info, ukrainian truth, bigus info, schemes, these are all grant stories and monetization and sponsorship of viewers and clubs. which includes the audience, thank you, we have, we have to fold, yanina, i'm sorry, we're just interested in the authorities, i'll say briefly, we don't have anti-propaganda, because it's not interesting to the authorities. thank you, and kateryna, very briefly, worked for eight years at radio crimea real, we spoke in the occupied crimea, before the full-scale invasion, and in general we do not have an information policy and did not have all these years after the annexation of crimea, it seems to me that now, even more so, it is important, blocking, of course, this is a good story of these harmful channels absolutely. the link was in tiktok, and this is important, but something must be done with global information policy, thank you kateryna nekrecha, yanina sokolova were guests of our program today, thank you for participating in this program, throughout the broadcast we conducted a survey, we asked you about so, friends, do you think putin is legitimate

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ukraine. enemy attack on dnipropetrovsk region, there are deaths and injuries, the enemy caused significant destruction. well, but most importantly, he killed again in... then there was another attack, but the missile was shot down, besides, today the enemy lost his strategic bomber, the first time in the war that he succeeded in the air. i don't know if it's us or not , but the plane caught fire and fell in the air . here's 22m, well, we'll talk about this and other things today for the next hour and 45 minutes, this is the great ether program, my name is vasyl winter, we are starting with the announcement of the fundraiser, and i will call on you once again to join and collect money for the needs expressed by the soldiers of the 93rd kholodny yar brigade and the 72nd brigade. black zaporozhians, espressu and the public organization of the ua resistance base are calling to support the collective fpv drones. our own

production, testing, variations for the needs of defenders, we can provide all this together by collecting 2 million hryvnias. there are already the first successful applications in piva on polyboa, join us so that there will be even more of them. our goal is ambitious, but realistic, 2 million hryvnias. remember that the donation to the armed forces, what amount you would not be able to throw at... this donation is an investment in our victory. let's support our soldiers, because they risk their own lives every day, giving their lives, keep us able to live and work, and leave us a chance for the future, which is the most important thing. unfortunately, today the enemy made another vile terrorist attack on the civilian part of the city on the dnipro, in the dnipropetrovsk region, as of now i... looked, it was about seven dead

citizens of ukraine, two children, 35 victims, in general, well, now we will find out whether the recovery work has already ended, or what the situation is with those victims who were admitted to hospitals, whether we can say that the situation is more or less stable, now i will ask danylo. he is a deputy of the dnipro city council, mr. danylo, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, vasyl, i congratulate you, my sincere condolences to the families, relatives of the victims and to everyone and the entire dnipropetrovsk community, in connection with the terrible tragedy that happened on the eve of another terrorist attack on to ukraine, only the day before yesterday we mourned those killed in chernihiv, today dnipro and dnipropetrovsk region. let's start with how it actually comes from. and then we will talk about the consequences and about search and rescue operations, please, well, in

principle, traditionally, at night, we had a siren, then it started, a very powerful, let's say, a series of very powerful explosions began, and in principle it was already clear, that it was somewhere in the center, because it was very, very loud right in the center, although it was, they were on... so powerful that you could hear them, in in principle throughout the city, they have already said that these were x-22 missiles, which, in principle, are used there to hit such super-powerful targets, yes, there are very strong such charges, but you see, nothing scares a terrorist, he hits right in the center of the city, that's where i am at the moment. search operations are still going on, because they are still looking for one person, with victims, with very different injuries, these are

fragments of bones, and lacerations, and a lot, a lot of different things, some of the people, to be precise there are about 20, they were taken to the hospital, some of them can already work at home or on an outpatient basis, some of the people still remain in hospitals, they, well, they... are still controlled by doctors, and if we can say that the worst thing is that a human life has been taken away, and there is another moment when today people lost, many people lost their homes, that is, at the moment we do not understand how the recovery will take place, because the house was hit very powerfully, and also there are many, well, five-story buildings there, if i am not mistaken, seven, they... just licked licked licks, educational institutions, schools, kindergartens, i.e., everything around was

destroyed, and i also want to note to vasyl that this is such a time when, well, in principle , trains arrive or depart to or from kyiv, these are very, very popular destinations in our country, and it is a wonder that there, well, almost, i think somewhere 50-100 meters and there would be victims, well, we just don't understand, it wouldn't even be dozens of victims. therefore , today, you know, we had a day of meeting there with the head of the regional council, and you know, today, well , bozhenka covered us very, very much and... helped a lot that, well, you know, everything could have happened, everything everything in human life is much worse, this is what i remember, in my opinion, it was a blow in slavic, i may be wrong now, but it happened about a week ago, when an enemy bomb, whether it was a rocket, in my opinion, the bomb just flew on the road, fell near a five-story building, of course the windows and doors were damaged there, but it's

only 50 meters, at least not 50 m there , right there. from where you look and the house would simply be destroyed and there would be victims and indeed sometimes an accident or some divine providence saves us, but also the defense forces are making maximum efforts to close the sky with the forces and means that are available, now i have a word jen stoltenberg, nato secretary general says, nato countries are ready, it is important here, ready to transfer more air defense to ukraine, just once again we receive these statements and it turns out that that everything can be transferred quickly. but again , our fighters on the front lines, who suffer from rabies, are paying for this again with blood, because it is impossible to give ppo to shoot down enemy planes on the approach, plus chernihiv, now the dnipro, this is fresh, and before that kherson, zaporozhye and there are front-line cities, kostiantynivka, sloviansk, kramatorsk, pokrovsk, there is a statement from the united nations organization, which

said that the enemy is again showing how much it disregards human lives, there is a statement from the us ambassador. from brink, well, this is all important , in fact, i believe that this air defense will come and close not only kyiv, conditionally there, but also other cities, especially those cities that are economic, industrial, logistics centers, let's be frank, rescue centers for many military and so on, but - search and rescue work, to what extent managed to carry them out effectively, is there enough in the city today to carry out such works, you know, when something is lacking in some equipment, it’s banal, well, we need to talk about it, because then it is possible... kyiv will react, something in addition, they can provide, or the partners seem to provide something additional, some kind of system that, let's say, will disassemble the rubble faster, relatively speaking, to give the person who is still alive under these rubbles, well, a chance for life to save a chance for life, yes, i i will tell you that our principles are, you know, like this already a bitter experience with a residential area , a victory, when they also hit a house and

everything there was very, very badly packed, and in principle, we have a plan in... for such situations, the city has everything, and today there are a lot of them, well, we have you know, such a people showed themselves, and such human qualities that we have qualities that we all immediately run to help, everyone immediately runs to do something useful and someone to somehow get by, and today we see that it was a hit at the railway station , and there is currently very, very much running out. employees exactly ukrainian railways, you also know this, such titans of ours, the railway workers, who grabbed everything, carried away all the debris, pieces, ran, swept away, did everything necessary to repair the connection with the railway as soon as possible, and that is why today, well, there was nothing like that in

you know us, the city and the region work a lot with various countries regarding aid, which... recently there was aid from japan, this is the kind of equipment that is being acquired, arriving in the city, in the regional center, in the region, and fire trucks, just that week were, came, that is, in principle, the city and the region is working, because you know, well, kyiv is also working very well, kyiv is working for the whole country, in the cities , after all, both the city government and the regional government have to work in order to help, let's say in this regard, kyiv and not ... we can only expect that tomorrow kyiv will give us something, we need kyiv not as a city, but kyiv as a capital, after all, there are state authorities and management, so of course, i would also like to say about the region, the enemy also hit the senelniky community, the crooked corner, well, traditionally, shelling takes place on people of nikopol, my

colleagues just told me about the attack on the center of the city of nikopol, maybe you already know it, please. yes, today there was also very, very much destruction in sinelnikiv region, there are dead people, very sincere condolences, because there are also children among them, so now tomorrow in dnipro is declared a day of grass, or for the dead, because we lost contact , unfortunately, and tomorrow is the day of mourning in the dnipro, i want to remember once again that, mr. danylo, please continue, here and around the region, on kryvyo merizhzhia, literally, now i was going to maybe after half an hour, it sounded again. siren and shot down a rocket over almost the city, that is, in principle, the enemy does not calm down and you see around the clock, day and night, pursuing

such terrorist targets, do everything necessary, regarding nikopol, there, in principle , because of relatives, such a location constantly terrorizes the enemy, the people of nikopol, constantly artillery is firing at them, basically all day, and you know what... yeah, that there is no way to react to their siren or anything, because there are those shells that, well, well, there the only possibility is simply to move the enemy from the left bank of the dnieper, but again, we know that the zaporozhian nuclear power plant is nearby, the enemy has accumulated forces and means, and is simply terrorizing the local population by shelling the right bank, the dnipropetrovsk region. thank you very much, mr. danylo, once again my sincere condolences to the community, relatives and relatives of those killed today in the dnipro, in the dnipropetrovsk region, danylo miro, deputy of the dnipro district. council was in touch with us, and two children as well, among the dead there are also two children, i said, and 35 injured, and now i will add to the conversation, we

will review this politically, and this topic as well, and most importantly the prospect, a very close prospect, in fact, unexpectedly close, on april 20 , tomorrow in the house of representatives of the united states of america , a bill on aid to ukraine is to be considered, now we will to find out whether oksana yuranets, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation, ms. oksana, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, good day, well, i just read the statement of the chairman of the north atlantic alliance jens on the air stoltenberg, who said that nato countries are ready to transfer more air defense to ukraine, well, here we are talking, of course, not only about the patriot, it is growing there, sumpty, there are different systems, we know that, but the point is that it looks like it. so what is the blood, well, if we talk about the last days, the blood of chernihiv, the blood of the dnipro, the dnipropetrovsk oblast, it is as if it buys us

these systems, or buys us time, that we could wait, think, bargain, but everyone saw what happened, but you, even at the un today, said how russia disregards lives people, and how quickly we can get it, and again, is there interdependence here, because politics is a cynical thing, unfortunately, unfortunately, it is cynical. and it is very bitter to admit that today, with these losses and these sufferings, ukrainians are allegedly pushing the west to act faster. well, you know, in fact , the west does not need to invent anything, they have shown how they can defend israel, i think that such a scenario is absolutely suitable for ukraine, because unfortunately, as you mentioned , chernihiv, and today dnipro, dnipropetrovsk region, these are losses every day in to ukraine, conditionally staying there in the conditionally... safe cities of the western country, they have all now become conditionally safe, so actually these statements of jens soltenburg are important today, especially that this is a virtual ukraine-nato council, chaired by jen

soltenberg, we today we heard the statements of the g7 as well, that is, of the countries that talk about further support for ukraine, and we would really like to, because in fact, as was announced the day before the meeting on april 4. and the mayor of the capital vitaliy klitschko, that the enemy did not leave, except there at border territories and kyiv, to set ambitions for capture, then kuleba, the minister of foreign affairs, already repeated at this summit, we simply understand that today western countries have to choose a system of protection for their countries on the territory of ukraine. ukraine pays a very high price every day with the lives of ukrainians, civilian ukrainians, we see. civilians, homes, children, and actually, it's a very high price to delay, the president talks about how many patriot systems are needed to protect, we

a million shells are needed so that we can adequately respond to attacks, and actually now our armed forces need a lot of that support, in addition to, say, those previously announced, now these needs are increasing, why, because, well, russia is waging a genocidal war, and this gene ... cannot happen before the eyes of international structures, which are called and created by the rich precisely in order to adequately respond to this, therefore, as of now , absolutely all, especially very important state institutions that have authority on behalf of the state to voice it, and as of now, well, every day is important, when they say on the road, it means, what will be there tonight or tomorrow? and every border region, as well as kharkiv region, they suffer daily, and while waiting, and in this system itself, it seems to me that collective security must draw conclusions after 75 years, which is certain.

something needs to be changed, and all the laws or, shall we say, precedents that existed before, they do not work, and ukraine today, absolutely, to me seems to give different proposals from the point of view of opportunities to defend oneself on the territory of ukraine. i am already talking about the member countries of the european union, the eastern flank of nato, the member countries of nato, which should understand and you have heard a lot today and the statements of the representatives of the former vice president of the united states. and in the same way we say, you actually mentioned the package that will be voted on tomorrow, so we understand that there is an electoral, permanent state of election in every country, where they want to play on this in different ways with help ukraine, but as of now, it seems to me that this is already a choice, and what will happen to the world, to global security, in fact, if we do not make a decision adequately and quickly, well , information has appeared, this is news that is still being supplemented, i i think that yuriy fizar will tell more about this

on our air a little later. so today is friday, well, we know the time difference, but it's minus about 7 hours there, well, washington, but anyway, it's day there today, it's evening here, so the house of representatives of the us congress held a procedural vote for draft laws on foreign aid, in particular to ukraine, which will allow them to be submitted for further consideration, such decisions were supported by 316 republicans and democrats, writes the zagil publication, and i am not very familiar with the intricacies. 316, as i understand it, for, that is, procedurally supported, is this a reason to say that tomorrow this decision can be fully adopted? well, you know, in stable democracies there is no such prospect as in the ukrainian parliament, that something can be very unexpected. as a rule, all decisions and discussions are democratic countries, they endure for some long period of time, but then the result is

clear and predictable for everyone. ago. i absolutely want to wait for the fact that tomorrow this decision will be made adequately, and ukraine will receive what it has been waiting for since the fall of last year, and it seems to me that these calculations come at a very high price, but we must not forget that the need every time, let's say this, it appears in ukraine, tries to cover it with the initiatives of european states, but actually this is the delay that happened, although i... i know that many ukrainians, including those who are actually in the united states, live, they try to hold actions, gather congressmen, and every vote, the one that we will count in the number of preferences for helping ukraine, it appears precisely thanks to this important, important activity, that is, when we say that everyone is important, we say that 100 hryvnias or 200 every day is important to donate to the armed forces of ukraine, as well as every vote or conviction of every congressman, senator, it is important argument

in order for this long-awaited vote and assistance to ukraine to take place. you know, i 'd like to find out something like this, and again, maybe knowing certain nuances that we don't know, you can tell, or at least try to find the right way to understand, and what affected that the same mike johnson , who recently was completely against, suddenly says that it is necessary to send ammunition to ukraine, and not... american soldiers, and this conversation with trump had such an effect on him in his residence somewhere in florida or miami, i don't remember i know where it is exactly was, and maralaga, and he went there, was it after what happened in israel, after the attack by iran, was it so influenced by the intelligence report to the congress, which clearly explained what could happen if there was no support, what the real

situation was. in your opinion, what exactly played the role that even mike johnson suddenly radically changed his position and now acts as almost the first lobbyist for aid to ukraine, although he delayed this time, let's be honest, for five months, that's for sure. well, you speak very often and you mentioned cynicism at the beginning politicians, yes, there are ratings, there is an election campaign in the united states, let's be honest, even a lot of ukrainian diasporas support trump with his policies, so it seems to me that... measuring the temperature or so allegorically measuring the ratings of their support or positions on ukraine played a negative role and that is why today we also hear from presidential candidate trump that aid to ukraine cannot be delayed. i think an important argument here is regarding the previous inadequate statements from the team of the presidential candidate, the former president of the united states, this is the first. second, of course,

all these arguments you mentioned, yes... they have part a themselves