are no longer there, or they are there, but the injured have a huge number of contusions, various other injuries, but they are knocked out, and they are still running out of energy, because it is the third year of fighting with such intensity, it is not easy either, but here, and this you can compare just this war, forgive me for such a comparison, but with a football team, which has a huge bench, and which does not have any red cards and in... there is no one to change at all, and here we have such a situation that simply banal, there are no people, and it is necessary urgently, necessarily to change something, and if we don't change this approach, well, believe me, after a certain time, i think that it will be conditionally there for six months, it will be very, very bad, we all talk about victory, but let's still sometimes, well, don't go there propaganda and sometimes talk about opportunities and defeats, so that what... we need

to do or what not to do, so that this defeat does not happen, because, well, such a possibility also simply exists, so that everyone realizes this, mr. yehor, one more important , an important element of this law or bill, which made changes to mobilization, was demobilization, the spokesman of the ministry of defense of ukraine dmytro lazutkin says that in 8 months there will be a new law, that's why 8 months should be written like this... the law, you, you, as a person who wrote laws, who passed laws, can you explain the logic, or is this logic clear to those people who are at the front? the logic is incomprehensible, moreover, as you probably all well understand, the military never, even me, never dig around on the internet and line up some, shall we say, logical reaction, the signals are very bad, so...

because when the military is told that friends, there will be mobilization, wait, we will soon adopt the rules of the game, and then they say that it is impossible, why are we talking about it at all, it is a signal that they have been deceived, that is the main thing, a signal that they have been deceived, why did they say then, but the first moment, the second moment, we, after all , ukrainians love freedom, we give our lives for it, and freedom is usually a choice, so ukrainians should draw, at least hypothetically. choice and say: friends, in three, five, even seven years, you will have it the choice, the opportunity to undergo demobilization, believe me, when the guys hear something like this, it will be additional motivation, it does not mean that they will all run to write there a statement of dismissal, not at all, believe me, it is even an overestimated story that they have a normal salary salary, they already have a new profession, many are already ordinary soldiers. and sometimes even as a combatant somewhere,

a huge number will remain in the armed forces, but people must be given a choice so that they do not feel like slaves or serfs, that some of them have been forced into the army and there is no way back none, they are waiting for rotation or vacations, while others there are mowing from the army, enjoying themselves in restaurants there and so on, this is actually very demotivating, and it actually splits the country, the country, on the contrary, needs to be stitched together, so the question of where... mobilization must be urgently resolved, to give a clear answer to all the boys, let it be, i say there 5-7 years, but this question must be answered. the people's deputy of ukraine, colonel of the sbu roman kostenko, shares the same opinion, who believes that under the condition of constant rotations, the majority of soldiers would return to the front after demobilization. let's listen to what roman kostenko said. i know, all the more confident when communicating with fighters. that if there was a fixed term

there of 36 months there yes there 48 and many people would probably leave, but i am sure, well, i do not know the percentage, but according to my feeling, 70-80 after a while there, it is a month or two , would return back feeling that they rested, because these are motivated, patriotic people who would not be able to stand aside and watch their country fight, therefore... this is exactly the question of freedom, which must be decided that they, well, they are warriors, and no, not slaves. yes. well, this is the opinion of roman kostenko, i hope that those who are currently fighting in the armed forces of ukraine, are on the eastern and southern fronts, and in general in the ukrainian army agree with it. mr. yehor, i thank you for participating in the program, it was yehor firsov, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine. friends, we are working live on the tv channel. and also on our

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1.200 thousand subscribers on youtube, and become 1.2001 subscribers, and help develop roman's youtube channel. roman, let's start with this legitimacy itself, because this week parye passed, passed a resolution regarding the recognition of putin's illegitimacy. national mp oleksiy goncharenko, who was in strasbourg and followed this on espresso, said that pare's adoption of the resolution on putin's illegitimacy is a decision that will further enable this issue to be promoted on the international stage. let's listen briefly to honcharenko. this is the tool that ukrainian diplomacy has now received, and not only ukrainian, but also all our allies in order to clamp down on putin, to recognize him as illegitimate, to prevent his diplomatic and

foreign policy maneuvers, and how do we do this we will use the tool and what we will achieve with it, well, only life will show, unfortunately, if there was an organ... what in the world, what did some people say putin is illegitimate, putin disappeared, well, there is no such organ, it does not exist, but this decision, it gives us essential tools in order to further advance this issue of putin's illegitimacy, inadmissibility, inadmissibility of contacts with him, roman, but how does this decision affect and does it affect putin's position at all ... the world and in particular in europe, well, it is clear that this is so declarative thing, and it does not affect the course of the war in any way, and let's decide, regardless of whether we consider the russian maniac to be legitimate or not, the number of missiles they launch at us, it will not change from this, and this is an important point, the following is

diplomatic work, diplomatic activities and so on, there are, let's say, places with which you can work, well, if we talk about the legitimacy of the russian president, then in general, this topic should be pumped up here, why, because a little time will pass, of course that because of the war we have elections it won't be on time, and they'll raise the topic of zelenskyi's illegitimacy, this is also an aspect that, regardless of how citizens feel about the president, who is acting... we understand that while the war is on, organizing a vote is quite problematic, although i heard different opinions on this matter, so when they will be something to us, if or when we hear something sick about this matter, then we just need to record

that in general putin has been an impostor since 2008, they recorded two terms, then they started playing in a game in a row, well, that's in a word. then they rewrote the constitution, and so on and so forth, that is, that is, he is illegitimate, well, ah, for the russians to note, then they will be told that we did not send you, putin sent you, you are putin’s soldier, but not a russian soldier. well, this is quite an interesting question, the fact that you say that he constantly rewrote russian legislation, but to all that he was also elected in the temporarily occupied areas of the ukrainian state, and it is clear that this is legitimacy, this is purity moreover, even pseudo-elections, she also questions because it turns out that

the citizens of ukraine voted for putin, and here for any conscious person, whether in europe or in the world in general, how, how can citizens of another country elect... a president, even if these presidential elections falsified, but here it is simply written with white threads, or white threads are visible, that it is all sewn together and... and all this legitimacy that will be demonstrated, the so- called legitimacy of may 7 in the kremlin, it can in principle be questioned, whether the ukrainian diplomat needs more to torpedo our partners regarding this legitimacy, because you correctly said that lavrov already said half a month ago that we have questions about zelenskyi's legitimacy, but... perhaps by may 20-20, we will no longer

have such questions, on i don't know what he hinted at, but he constantly talks about zelensky's illegitimacy, and if they are already asking questions about zelensky's legitimacy, don't we need to more actively promote and promote this thesis that he is illegitimate? i think that everyone should do their own work, that's right the diplomatic corps that works with... the word, well, why not, this is one of the aspects of our foreign policy, i would just draw attention to what, well, first of all, the elections on the ukrainian territories, they have been holding since 2014 , on the territory of the occupied crimea, already from that moment, here we are questioning all these issues with putin's legitimacy, i think, in fact, and yes, i agree that diplomats are dealing with the very questions of whether the tsar is real, and the tsar... real, we have already figured it out, i think we need to think more about what kind of gift we are to volodymyr

let's make putin a maniac for the inauguration. it is very interesting that for some reason the entire russian propaganda team thinks that we will destroy the crimean bridge by may 7. i don't know about the plans for our military command, but it seems to me that it would be such... there was already such a blow, it didn't count because they were identified, quite quickly, yes, yes, look, but against the background of the ongoing discussion, legitimacy, the illegitimacy of president putin, what to do with him, to hit russia or not to hit, and as a result, we see. time magazine with the cover of navalny's widow, yulia navalny, and the first interview after

her husband's death with journalist simon shuster, the same simon shuster who wrote a book about zelensky, and here navalny says that it's too bad that ukrainians don't want to cooperate with russians, who are against the war what she says good russians is a very bad phrase i believe they just don't want to look for these anti war russians but such russians exist, it is simply difficult to expect them to go out, because as i said, not all people are heroes, they are ready to resort to various types of struggle, it is important to support these people, i believe that it is a mistake of the ukrainian government to ignore them, eh here , navalny acts as if he is a leader or one of the leaders of the opposition, but is there an opposition at all... in russia, well, my opinion is that there are such

public figures, and the position is those people who can come to power, and from this point of view , there is no position in russia, even in these puppet houses parties like ldpr, they are not a position either, they are just part of the russian government, so the so-called people who, because of... smart voting or because of some other nonsense , think that they will be elected there someday, well, it's just really , delusional, i look at this statement with yulia navalny, here she is saying that the ukrainian government is wrong about something and that they are ready to cooperate, i understand to some extent. are they ready they let's understand if you are ready for something then offer if you

you want some kind of support from ukraine, then talk about it too, specific things, and in general, we were a little different from them in terms of temperament even before the great war, and even more so now, these are general phrases, but with flashlights during the day or at night, they are something , that is , i perfectly understand that there is... a dictatorship and again, her statement that not everyone can go out, sorry, she is so stupid that she does not understand that the time... went out , he left a long time ago, he is gone, and the husband has already been killed, and she is there about some street, he recalls, i just want to remind you that once a whole party structure was created in the fbk, in its representative offices, cells, that is, there were real people, so let's decide, what do you want, if you want

to fight for power, then those in fact, the honest answer is very simple: all these calls, we are against the war, let's stop the shooting, that's all, that's all stupid, and if they want to get power in russia, then they should say it a little differently, not to lay down their arms, call on the russian soldier, and use her weapon, turn her against russian, as we have already found out, illegitimate authorities, russian illegitimate. authorities and act accordingly, i want to emphasize that as far as i know, and i understand this, all ukrainian special services are looking for russians who are ready to cooperate with us in some way, and the language is not always that we have to search there and risk our lives to do something to do, but what else to do is not the time for slogans,

it has long passed, so if we are wrong in something, then... prove to us that there is some benefit from them, and we will help them, here we have a unit of the rdk, if they will decide, or when they decide to go to moscow, we will help them, charge all the bcs , give them out, charge them, refuel the tanks, or... what they will go on depending on the situation, you can do that, or something like that, you know like such a reproach towards ukraine that we did not appreciate something there from their point of view, but forgive these underdogs, they do not even imagine

anything about their state, about russia. let me remind you that when navalny... boarded the plane from germany, i met vnukov at the airport while still in moscow, but the plane flew to another airport, and he was detained there and he never got out of prison again, i'll just remind you of the chronology of the event, they flew to think that the russians would take him to the kremlin after the film about putin's palace, well, if they thought so, then they really don't know this country, so once again... i want to emphasize, i think we don't talk about it too much, that we don't treat russians through the lens of a passport, in fact, well at least i, i think you will agree with me, we have people who are currently on the territory of ukraine with a russian passport, and who do not differ in terms of views, we

should not look for some good russians, a good man is not a profession, if you have... any proposals, you come out with them, if it will benefit us all, the use of our state, your return to the russian federation, we will always find a common language, but here are the statements that ukraine is not doing something there, the fact that we do not pray for navalny, well, we have reasons for this, and i understand that a person killed, but we, sorry, we will not forget the robot, why not because we are spiteful, and because at that moment... navalny and this company, his team, they legitimized the war against us, that's actually everything, as they say, just business, if you change your approaches, and we will change our approaches, for example, i will stop using the conjunction crimea is not a sandwich, but if

you don't do this, and you somehow owe us something, then we don't owe you anything, go. you are right, because actually what i hear and what i read in navalny's interview, i have the feeling that she is not what, she, she not only does not understand what is happening in russia, she does not understand what is happening in ukraine, although she has enough opportunities to make a picture of what is happening in our country, she lives abroad and all she has available resources. another rather short topic, this all-russian flood in the urals, orsk, orenburg, that the mound there is already going under water, what, what does this mean, that russia actually held on to these things like that, on shit and sticks, just all these dams that

they are there now, you, you can't, as a presenter to say, and i can, from shit and piles, i, i, i simply could not formulate clearly, but i can’t think of a more clear, clearly wording, well, the truth is, for russians, all the more so, everything is clear, because there, after all, please tell me, well, this means that they are not, well , inside the country, that this whole system is decrepit, it is the same as these dams, that at some certain moment everything that is there will collapse very quickly, and this autocracy and dictatorship that exists, it can also break through, just like the vorsku dam, maybe, maybe not, well, here, you see,... maybe if it happens, the water will go down there right now, and they will tell these people, who are not at all the subjects

of any process that is happening there, they will be told, you want money to earn money for new houses, everyone, everyone, make contracts go to war with the ministry of defense, maybe it will come back in the end, right? how powerful it is, you see, the fact that there are some systemic crises, crisis phenomena, that is, in the winter they froze all over there, and the central moscow region, which is just there, sorry, babla, it’s just everywhere, it's just very, very expensive and a lot, and the fact that, again, these dump breakthroughs, again , it looks like a systemic problem, but that doesn't mean that it's ... somehow it's going to fall out and here i am looking at this big water and on the one hand i enjoy watching it, why? because it's not that i'm happy there that people with russian

citizenship have any problems, i'm not interested in it, i'm interested in the fact that the resources of the russian state will go to some reconstruction works instead of a conditional war, but here's the problem, as far as i'm concerned, , that it is there in... time can to drown, but putin will find money for the war, so let's make some assumptions that whether or not moscow went under the water, well, it would be interesting to see, but yes, what, well, some region floats, but by the way, look, the houses are quite good, that is, russians are also different, there is also a wealthy part, there are a lot of people who... do not live in shacks on chicken legs, and they have a lot of cars, not only chinese, but also others, that is, this story is so complicated, and you see,

they, as it were, do not like it very much, and they even proclaimed such a word as vills, but they do not conclude, vills in relation to whom, putin, he is fighting somewhere in space, you understand, and some people there... well, they are bad there is something else, well, i don’t know , maybe the mayor of orsk will be imprisoned there, or he will move to dubai to live with his son, maybe this will be the end of it, that is, we are only interested in the ability of the russian state to wage war with us, at the moment we understand everything, they will fight, you know, in the context of this flood, i fear the most that, so that they don't start relocating these people from... orsk and orenburg somewhere to the south or southeast of ukraine, because the houses are destroyed, and it is impossible to live there, of course, and

there is also a question here, because they will say, well , let's go and develop new russian lands , which we captured there, and it can also be, in principle. thank you, thank you, roman, let's put a full stop, and thank you for tuning in, it was roman tsymbalyuk, a journalist, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel and also on ours. platforms on youtube and facebook , we conduct surveys, we ask you about so, do you think putin is the legitimate president of russia, yes no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have your own opinion, please write in the comments under this video, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if yes, then 0800-211381, no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will answer. the results of this vote. next, we will be in touch with viktor shlinchak, head of the management of the institute of world politics. mr. viktor, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today.

greetings sergey, good evening. after the ukraine-nato council , nato secretary general jend stoltenberg said that the allies are ready to provide our country with additional means of air defense, let's listen to stoltenberg. regarding the improvement of air defense systems for ukraine, i want. to say that it will happen soon. germany also decided to provide additional systems to ukraine. ukraine will soon receive additional patriot systems. our allies, which, unfortunately, do not have existing, affordable systems, they can provide ukraine financial assistance. we are also working to increase production.

production of just the necessary systems that would meet the goals. mr. viktor, please explain why our western partners are struggling with air defense for so long? i, too, mr. serhiy, have the same question, why did this happen? i remember the year 2022, when , including my children, painted posters with... close the ukrainian sky from russian missiles. two years have passed, and only now they want to get some from under the fields additional systems and, accordingly, missiles for them. of course, i have some guesses as to why this is happening, because it is obvious that we are really at such a turning point now. at the stage

of the war, at a turning point from all points of view, at a turning point from the political point of view, because first of all we began to hear about the victory of ukraine, that russia must be defeated, that now it is necessary to provide everything that maybe, and it should be done quickly, i really hope that... the vote in the house of representatives will be the same positive, it means that the western partners, most of the western partners, have matured to the point that the situation must be resolved in a radical way, because the circumstances in which we find ourselves now are, well, let's put it this way, a rather serious reason to think

about ... including what the head of american intelligence says: the loss of ukraine without weapons, the loss of ukraine without the means to destroy russian missiles, will lead to the fact that russia will strengthen. this will mean that another wave of refugees will pour into europe, this will mean that europe will be forced to distract itself from its problems. and from their elections, which are approaching in european countries as well, and will start dealing with ukraine, accordingly, some leaders are starting to mature to the point that it is more profitable for them to provide what ukraine is asking for. and olaf scholz, the federal chancellor of germany, after the meeting of the european council in brussels, announced that ukraine could receive seven systems. from

partners in the north atlantic alliance, in particular, one of them has already been allocated by germany. let's listen to scholz. the alliance has made it clear that systems available in nato countries can be transferred to allow ukraine to better defend itself against multiple russian attacks. i would like to use this opportunity to emphasize this appeal once again. we heard that there were to be seven systems, one of them. ours, and we hope to find the remaining six in the context of nato. in all these statements, mr. viktor, one thing is missing, that scholz, and stoltenberg, and others, well, stoltenberg, the secretary general of nato, but well, that other leaders of western countries talked about the fact that we want putin to lose and the russian federation to lose, but there are no such calls or statements.