attitude and the constant provocations they carry out, this can be considered as a certain legal succession even here, in russia , in relation to the soviet union, absolutely, but among the materials that we published there are obviously materials of the investigation into the causes of the accident that occurred on april 26, 1986 year, and in the end all possible theories about some kind of terrorist attacks and so on were rejected and came to a simple one. but a very specific conclusion that the accident was the result of the negligence of employees, the result of a completely negligent culture, there is even such a word the custom that prevailed among the workers, who considered it possible to do some things that eventually led to the accident, what is happening now, unfortunately, at the zaporizhzhia power plant, this is also obvious, that we are talking about the same culture, but unfortunately , maybe in some respects the situation is... even

more dangerous, because the russians, as we saw, after the explosion of the kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, are ready to use even such objects of civil infrastructure as weapons, mass destruction, as a mere tool for their terrorism , so here the situation is in some respects even worse than chernobyl. and in conclusion, what should we do with ukrainians, the ukrainian state, and the authorities. in order to explain to the world community, to explain in general to the whole civilized world and the uncivilized world, what is happening now, so that we do not repeat this terrible disaster that happened at the chernobyl nuclear power plant, already in our time during the great war in zaporozhye , to talk to the world, it seems to me that we really lack some kind of system information politicians in the world, but i already mentioned today about kakhovska and... the power plant, in

my opinion, this is an example of the complete failure of ukraine's information communication with the world, when until now the only marathon gathered with some messages, how to explain what happened, has already gone to the world information that not everything is so clear-cut, what russia needed, we need to talk about what is happening now really in the context, the broader context of ukrainian history, it is very good that there are people who do this, there are books by serhiy plokhiy, already two books that tell about... chernobyl extremely important, there is a wonderful hbo series about chernobyl, which also talks about these events, but it is necessary to explain that the connection between what is happening now and those events that happened in the soviet past, because unfortunately, in the west very often soviet history was considered, was considered and to a large extent is considered exclusively through the prism of some russian academic glasses, so we need to help our western academic environment. get rid of those

soviet academic glasses, and i think that this is one of our missions, and for this requires a very systematic informational support from the ukrainian state, i am very sorry that at such an important time for the country, we have essentially no foreign language, that is , we have some poor freedom houses that first spoke russian, now ukrainian, but not less, who definitely do not speak english, who definitely do not bring the necessary information about ukraine to the world and not. convey a lot of pro-ukrainian narratives from the point of view of the ukrainian view of the world. mr. volodymyr, i am extremely grateful to you for this conversation, regardless on how many years may pass since the chernobyl disaster, since april 26 , 1986, we must remember, we must understand why it happened, and we must take into account all that... experience and all those

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represents. united by football, stronger together! salaam alaikum! hello akshamlar, atr tv channel and espresso channel , we welcome our viewers on the air of espresso and the first crimean tv channel atr. and my colleague mr. andrii yanitskyi. congratulations, congratulations. well, we continue to talk about crimea, talk about the latest and most relevant news regarding the temporary of the occupied crimean peninsula, and as always we

would like to start this block with the latest military news and actions of the armed forces of ukraine on the territory of the temporarily occupied peninsula and our first guest. this is mr. volodymyr zablotsky, a military and maritime expert, mr. volodymyr, i can hear you, you can hear us, okay, yes, mr. volodymyr, first of all, please tell me, you recently attended a very interesting conference in bulgaria, what was it about conference, what significance does it have for our defense complex and for crimea in general? well, i can't say anything about the conference to say, this is... probably some kind of mistake, but i can say in general that any conference that is aimed at increasing our defense capability, accelerates the process of development of events at the front in our favor, and

of course accelerates the liberation of the temporarily occupied crimea, is such the main thesis that i can prove, what i am sure of, well... in fact, the black sea security conference was held in bulgaria, at which we heard a lot of theses, and regarding security in the black sea region, representatives of the countries of the black sea region took part there the region and the country are strategically important for this region, and you know, i have the following question: can we generally talk about ensuring security in the waters of the black sea region, if... as long as the black sea fleet of the russian federation exists and the russian regime exists, the russian federation in is it now on the borders of the black sea region? we definitely cannot say, and it will be a mistake if someone convinces us otherwise. as long as there is a black sea

fleet in the black sea there is a danger for all, even those countries that do not participate in hostilities. as long as there is... the russian federation there is a danger for countries that are located beyond the borders of even the black sea, this is firstly, secondly, we have such a historical example, very attractive, which i believe should be applied after our victory, to deprive the russian federation, if it remains, or that state entity that will be in its place... the right to possess naval forces on the black sea. we still see that russia greatly lost its efforts in the black sea due to the actions of the naval forces of ukraine, primarily the armed forces of ukraine. and they even had to change the commander

of the black sea fleet, is it clear that the new commander conducts combat operations in a different way, more effectively than the previous ones. and do you think we are up against it? you know, the situation is developing in such a way that a change of commander does not change anything. and they do it in vain, although, well, that’s how it happens in our country, it happens, yes, please, it’s a matter of because changing the commander in this case does not solve anything, and the enemy loses, he has the means, he is waging an unjust war, he has the means for this war are outdated, he has weapons systems that were prepared for the last war, that is, we are ahead of the curve in what, as for the know-how in the war at sea, and even

without a fleet, ukraine nevertheless pushes the enemy out of the water area, at least the southern and western water area of ​​the black sea, the consequence of this is the restoration of maritime trade and communication of ukraine with the outside world. prerequisites are also created for the liberation of crimea. ugh. well, indeed, we are now seeing russia trying to move its remnants, the black sea fleet, and, as reported by many, and russian media, and, propagandistic russian media and many other sources, russia is now moving its black sea fleet ships to the ports of novorossiysk, and even they concluded an agreement with the occupation authorities. abkhazia, can we say that for us and for the armed forces of ukraine, the ports of novorossiysk and the ports,

possible ports of abkhazia are already a legitimate target? obviously, a legitimate target, the russian military ships, military facilities anywhere, even outside the black sea, we know the latest examples, let's say, almost destruction, but heavy damage to a missile ship in the baltics. fleet, damage to other objects in other regions, in other regions of russia, that is , far from the theater of hostilities, but if we have such an opportunity, we will destroy the enemy where we can, and do we have such an opportunity, sir volodymyr, are these goals achievable for us in novorossiysk and, well, in the future in abkhazia, they are quite achievable, it is not the problem is also for air ... let's say, shock, and for sea, and for submarines, what

about the tests that were recently reported. moreover, now it is only a matter of a political decision, the fact is that after the damage to the tanker sikh, last year, when the vdk olnegorskyi gornyak was damaged, the tanker sikh, which was standing in line for... passing through the kerch strait, was damaged literally a few hours later , but our western partners, well, they warned us that this should not be done, because it is oil export there and this other after that, ukraine moved to strikes on the oil infrastructure on the mainland, that is, where there is no threat of oil spills and threats to ecology, the environment, well, let's see, i think that as the need will be for... we have both surface and submarine, and air, and ground, missile and

so on, we can clearly see this on the example of the last strike on dzhankov. ugh. well, really, this week, as a result of the attack on the military airfield of the temporarily occupied crimea dzhanko and the destruction of the launcher anti-missile, anti-aircraft defense, radar systems, as well as affected russian aircraft. this has already been confirmed and stated by the representative. andrii yusov of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, well, here, you know, the question arises, what new challenges arise for the armed forces of ukraine after the destruction of certain objects at the dzhankoy airfield, that is, who and what can be next, well, for example, kerch bridge, how do you assess the prospects of damage to the city of kerch? the kerch bridge will be destroyed, means there is for this. the only thing is that its destruction must somehow be coordinated with what

our troops are doing on land, that is, its destruction must be part of the plan for the liberation of crimea, that is, a strike, then logistics are interrupted from the sea from this bridge, then there is an assault on the peninsula or expelling the enemy, forcing him to leave the temporarily occupied peninsula, etc., that is, it is interconnected. parts of one chain, which must be coordinated somewhere in time, and it seems that russia understands that the bridge will be destroyed, because it is building at a breakneck pace. a railway road already across the land for the supply of ammunition for their occupying forces, and even if the bridge is destroyed

, the efforts of russia will not stop. because there is always an informational component. exists in parallel with the physical destruction of something or someone, it is difficult to say here, but it is necessary to do both, moreover, if they build this branch from rostov, there are two such bridge, two sections across kalmius and across another river a little further there, which can be destroyed, and it is not yet a fact that this branch... will work, uh, we are talking about the rostov, melitopel, berdyansk branch, the one that russia is building a railway now, well, this is one that they are building now, at an accelerated pace, as you say, yes, yes, ah, and one more news that we would like to talk to you about is very important, but it is published by ryters, from referring to

four of his interlocutors, and writes to reuters that ukraine has not concluded an agreement on... safe shipping in in the black sea, ukraine unexpectedly withdrew from an agreement with russia and turkey on safe navigation in the black sea, when this agreement was almost reached. well, it is logical that ukraine will not sign any agreement, even with the russian federation, and ukraine, like no one else, understands and has seen from its experience that any agreement signed by russia is worthless. and not a penny and we saw it in the budapest memorandum and we saw it during this agreement and the sharing agreement the sea of ​​azov and so on, but it is still possible that there are some alternative security and cooperation measures that can be proposed, for example with turkey, which is

a strategically important state for us, well, at least in the waters of the black sea region. you know, we are currently discussing a topic that is not worth discussing, because the existence, in general, i consider it a fake, that ukraine conducted some separate negotiations with russia and turkey, and then left, the presidential administration officially denied such and such this fact of negotiations, so and why them conduct if sea trade is unblocked in our country without the participation of russia. several millions have successfully brought tens of millions of grain, we are exporting, importing cargo, now we have started container transportation, that is, we do not need it, moreover, here it is in favor of the fact that this is russia's ipso, says the fact that they discredit the official kyiv by the very fact negotiations, from which he

allegedly later refuses, so i especially do not... believe in this personally, and i do not consider it necessary to discuss it, because it is not a fact that such negotiations did not take place, that is, in fact, we and they are not needed, ukraine controls the region enough to restore shipping to pre-war levels, and no new grain agreements or any other agreements with russia are possible, we do not need them, are you right? i found news about the new head of the black sea fleet, british intelligence reports that after his appointment , the russian black sea fleet is showing the least activity since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, so mr. volodymyr, you were absolutely right that the name of the head of the black sea fleet means little, not much

that it affects, the very picture on the battlefield is such that it cannot shoot down anything, well , although it hides these ships away from ukrainian drones, and this is also confirmed by british intelligence, which writes that the port of novorossiysk has already been modernized for support of ships from the temporarily occupied crimean peninsula, but at the same time, russia is now actively trying to mobilize ukrainian citizens living on the territory of the occupied peninsula to join the ranks of the armed forces of the russian federation. and indeed, during this time we saw a lot of things that russia opened against crimeans, against citizens of ukraine on the territory. occupied crimea, who did not want to join the ranks of the russian federation. this is how you evaluate this news and what should the citizens of ukraine do who simply do not want to go to olaff,

who simply forces them? well, i cannot disagree with the fact that this is happening, that this is a fact, this is another crime of the russian federation, the so-called, and this crime is again directed against... against ukraine, against its ethnic group, without regard to that, this there are crimean tatars, there are ethnic ukrainians, or even russians, they do it in crimea and other occupied territories are trying to solve their problems in this way at the expense of other peoples, including the occupied, to counteract this, there is such a program that was introduced. including in crimea, which

is aimed at a way to refuse this, even when the so -called conscripts are forcibly conscripted into the troops of the occupiers, how to get in touch with representatives of ukraine and... there will be, let's say so , detailed instruction on what to do and how to act in order to survive, let's say, stay alive and to return home, well, as i understand it, the conscription of citizens disloyal to russia, citizens disloyal to russia into the russian army, is actually an opportunity for ukrainian intelligence to get their eyes inside the russian army and people who... after all, could not refuse it from service, but have pro-ukrainian views, they can contact ukrainian intelligence and report useful

information for ukraine and thus bring the liberation of crimea closer. thank you very much, mr. volodymyr, thank you for joining our broadcast and answering our questions choh saglolnas, military naval expert. volodymyr zablotskyi was in direct contact with us, and we have a short break, and then we will continue our broadcast. thank you, more in the joints is so piercing, it does not allow to move. and in the pharmacy i bought a yellow dolgit cream, it saves me from pain in rheumatism. dolgit - the only yellow cream for joint and back pain. there are 15% discounts on uroleisan in pharmacies for... and now you 're in charge of the game, bird, and you're in a tv show. oh, what is

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vasyl zima’s big broadcast, a project for smart people and those who don't care, in the evening for espresso. we continue the bereber program, it is a joint project of the tv channel and the first one. in the studio of the crimean-tatar tv channel atr , gultsum khalilova, my colleague, i'm andriy yanitskyi, and today's second guest, borys babin, ex-representative of the president of ukraine in the autonomous republic of crimea. mr. boris, congratulations. so, the black sea security conference of the international crimean platform was held in bulgaria, your colleague was there, and i know you know the details of what was discussed there, what is the significance this conference is for... the future liberation of crimea, tell us in more detail, and why bulgaria in your opinion, well, look, this conference is already the second, it's the black sea security conference, that's why it's held

in the black sea countries, last year... it was romania , and this was the first conference, the responsible bodies from the ukrainian side are primarily the ministry of defense and the ministry of foreign affairs, so this is a certain specificity of this conference, it is expert in a certain dimension, that is , experts gathered on the first day, diplomats on the second day, representatives of the states participating in the crimean platform, what can we say here, firstly, it is good that it is being held, it is good that we are learning to be consistent, because this is an annual conference, it must take place. and to provide an appropriate extension, my colleague olesya tsybulka, also from the association for the reintegration of crimea, had the opportunity to report at this conference, and what can be said about its significance? first of all, it is necessary to strengthen the institutional capacity of the crimean platform, especially in the expert dimension, and therefore my colleague and i, shall we say, remotely, we just presented those improvements that were, the previous ones, that were carried out by the kremsetar resource center, on

the forums. the future of crimea is strategic, we have held three of them over the past two years, just the last forum, which was in march, it was dedicated to increasing the institutionalization of the crimean platform, first of all the expert network, because if we have an expert network, it must work, so experts should give what they are called experts, not because i came to the tv studio in a tie, yes, but because i have to give a certain intellectual product, a certain meaning, as they say, the cost price, which is then laid on the table, laid on the table. member states of international organizations , in order for a person to write something, it is necessary that, firstly, someone pays for it, secondly, that it bears responsibility and has a certain status, but we have already had the crimean platform for three years, and we still do not see any answers on these issues, and that is why the corresponding internal regulatory documents were worked out, you know, this is purely tedious work, on first of all, it is bureaucratic at first glance, we do not like bureaucracy, we like slogans, so that a person spoke with a beautiful high platform, said something, then she left this platform and then what, so

what would happen next? we worked, the appropriate modifications will be provided to the crimean platform itself and the expert network, the ball is now in their court, they want, let them approve, don't want, let them continue to exist as they exist, i mean exactly the expert dimension, and regarding the international dimension, it is also important, we we have to prepare certain interstate agreements, no less, regarding the office of the crimean platform, this is not institutionalized, it must be fixed, not only at the level of the declaration, it is good that they are approved, but at the level of certain agreements, so that this system... yaroslav that , what we call a mechanism, what we call certain structural movements, and for it to be precisely a network that unites states, that unites their constant interactions, it must be an international state, it must be relevant offices and so further, full-fledged international, supranational structure, then it will work, mr. maris, as far as i understand, the very idea of ​​the crimean platform was born when there was an idea to return crimea by diplomatic means even before the full-scale military invasion

of russia, and then it seemed that... that the topic of crimea was fading in the information space of the international , that's why we came up with this format , the crimean platform, let's turn the world's attention to the crimean issue and somehow spread it, increase it, and now it's already in the dimension of a full-scale invasion, when a hot war is going on, and when on the territory of crimea every day in fact, something is exploding, and we see that crimea will be liberated after all by the force of ukrainian weapons, rather than by diplomatic efforts. what is the role of the crimean platform? is it preparing for the adaptation and reintegration of crimea? well , look, first of all, the fact that it was created is actually very good, because maidanchyk should discuss our word crimea, right? it is very convenient, you know, to talk about coffee in yalta, there is a cheburek or a shed, it gives insults, but there is another dimension, there is a dimension of real pre-occupation integration, there is a dimension of violation of international law, crimea has become a precedent and a negative one a precedent for an attempt at annexation, so this is exactly the mechanism of the crimean platform, it

was very a long step so, if we recall the history of the crimean platform, it was created even before the full-scale invasion, as a tool of such diplomatic influence on other countries in order to raise and make the crimean issue more visible. and then it seemed that this was the right way, because there were no other tools, but today we see that during the already heated phase of the war in crimea, something explodes every day, and we understand that crimea will be liberated by the force of ukrainian weapons, diplomatic efforts are here, they are already on the second. the place is leaving, what is the role of the crimean platform now, what is it doing, preparing crimea for deoccupation, reintegration or measuring the situation that is now in crimea , what is its role? look, well , first of all, really, when it was created, it was a platform for increasing attention to crimea, but not only in the dimension, you know, of such purely pr, it is very convenient to say: