precisely this mechanism of the crimean platform, it was a very successful step. so, if we recall the history of the crimean platform, it was created even before the full-scale invasion, as an instrument of such diplomatic influence on the world, on other countries in order to raise and make the crimea issue more visible, and then it seemed that this was the right way, because there were no other tools, but today we see that during the already heated phase of the war, something explodes in crimea every day, and we understand that crimea will be liberated by the force of ukrainian weapons. here diplomatic efforts, they are already taking second place, what is the role of the crimean platform now, what is it doing, preparing crimea for deoccupation, reintegration or measuring the situation that is currently in crimea , what is its role? look, well , first of all, really, when it was created, it was a platform for increasing attention to crimea, but not only in terms of, you know, such purely pr, it is very convenient to say, there is coffee in yalta tomorrow, a concert in yalta the day after tomorrow, there chiburek bakhchesaraye. adds likes, yes, for

it is normal for politicians, but there is another dimension, there is the dimension of real work, yes, and that is why this step was really timely then, because it was not something diplomatic, as they say, table talks, i.e. conversations, it was just putting it on the agenda crimea as a precedent, a negative precedent, an attempt at annexation, an encroachment on the entire world legal order, on , as they say, the rules of the game recognized by civilized nations, and that is why it, as they say, shot, and our enemies are very painful. accepted, because they knew what it could lead to, regarding how to liberate crimea, this, you know, this is a mantra about diplomatic ways, i can say, whoever wants to, let him check that i always said a very simple thing: it is impossible to return something that was taken by military means, not by military means, even if we carry out the return without imagining , imagine, without active hostilities, it must still be a military operation. because

the russians occupied crimea in february 14th year, with little blood, yes, but it was a military operation, and other ways, as they say, of controlling the territory during the armed conflict there is no conflict, that's why all these mantras are mantras, yes, and we are people of the real world, so as an example, it is really important that today within the crimean platform there is at least this separate security mechanism, which is carried out, let's say , more by the military than by diplomats , despite this, despite this, in terms of ways and strategy, we have to... work on our agenda, but just today we and our colleagues from several ministries held just such a security conference already in kyiv, and it is very simple: look, we have today it already is nine agreements on the security and support of ukraine, which we signed this year, great britain, germany, france and so on, the czech republic is being prepared there, and we will be grateful to any country of the civilized world that signs this agreement with us, an agreement with the united states is being prepared states, and in these separate agreements, there is such a position. assistance to ukraine

in the preparation of plans and strategies for reintegration into the occupied territories. on the one hand , it's great that our partners are saying that we really need to integrate it, right? on the other hand, it is such a bell, because it is means that our partners understand that we are not all right with these plans, that we need help, and this, i'm sorry, is a certain diagnosis, if it is even written in the agreements, then we see today, but these agreements, they have recommendations. this is a treaty, this is, i’m sorry, the government and majesty, or we ’ve just seen many treaties that, unfortunately, did not have their effectiveness over time, due to security, for example, the budapest memorandum, just this budapest memorandum is a piece of paper, and those who signed it, should actually carry it responsibility for the fact that it was signed in that form, these agreements, this is not a piece of paper, ugh, these are more very serious things, so that you understand, and the agreement with great britain, there is a duty of ukraine to help great britain in the event of an attack on great britain . this can

be taken with skepticism, but once upon a long time , great britain made a similar agreement with portugal, it was in the 14th century, this is how they still carry it out, so you understand how civilized countries in this world treat this kind of paper, as you say, this not pieces of paper, it's very important, and an example today is, you know, with all due respect to all countries, to have these agreements, this is an agreement by the united states, which today, says mr. yarmak of the times magazine, we have to ... believe that it is preparing to be signed, but at the same time in the same congress of the united states they have to vote for aid to ukraine, and what they say is that aid to ukraine, most likely it will be voted on, will be tied to some kind of obligation of the white house to develop an aid strategy of ukraine, that is, it should be a certain plan, and most likely this will be announced, and if we have a certain plan, there should be something, a strategy for the reintegration of de-occupation, that's right. and here ukraine has to

put something on the table, and when we held the second strategic forum future of crimea with mr. bariyev and many other experts , we gathered very different people, but then, when we presented it in ukrinform, here... one respectable person, it wasn't me who said it, but a former adviser to one of the prime ministers, currently he is a doctor of sciences, a professor, and he got out, you know, that we researched this plan, we wrote our comments on 40 sheets, sent it to the relevant ministries, we did not even publish it, because we cannot publish such a thing, sorry under the conditions of the war, but he said that it was very good that this document is written in such a way that it is simply impossible to translate it into english, there is such ukrainian bureaucratic language, such constructions, it simply does not translate. are made up, and this, as they say, no matter how tragically it wandered, it is good, because if you translate it and set the table of our partners, it would be sabotage, you understand, because if they read it, and they are not supposed to provide aid under these documents, and not only funds, sorry, because this military component and financial component for aid,

which ukraine vitally needs, is not important, we do not have the right to submit to our partners for consideration, excuse me with all due respect, any strategies about cognitive milioration, because they are strategies. our partners read and they decide whether to give us the funds that we vitally need in the event of war or not, we all have to understand that such things cannot be treated, i'm sorry, as things for collecting likes, as things for internal, i'm sorry, use, this is currently a vital issue of the ukrainian state, quality reintegration plans, we talked about this in sofia, well, my colleagues, what about the strategy of ensuring the security of the black sea water area, we have already agreed on it within the framework of this conference or not, there were a lot of topics. there are different achievements, well, for example, this year russia, the aggressor state, was excluded from the duna commission, ugh, this is very uneven the way, in fact, from many dimensions, starting with the fact that today the danube is a vital trade artery for us, and i will not even discuss the military component, but

the international component is clear, because russia sat there as the legal successor of the ssr, not the danube state, they said , and this is us temporarily a non-danish state, you understand what they said there, but... a huge amount of work was done and our crimean integration association and others proved that there was a violation and it was excluded, this is important, this is the second organization that i know, the first was the council of europe, from which russia was specifically excluded for violating international law, and we must continue to work. we have a situation with turkey. turkey is a key player in the black sea region. turkey is vitally important to us and for further support of the krenzdar people's resistance against aggression and support of our efforts to occupy crimea. we have to work with this country. we have to... prove that we have a common position on the security of the region, on the different dimensions of its security, well, for example, you know, maybe there is such a thing as the syrian express, so when the aggressor is transporting cargo to syria, this is stolen grain, and military equipment, and something in syria, to the ports of the black sea,

perhaps you know, among other things, that syria is not just a regime that destroys its own population, what they they build their budget, the so-called, you know, they don't have much left there, for the drug trade. "syria has become a supplier of narcotics for the entire arab world, for a large part of the eastern world, which is so cautiously limited, and it is also transported, in particular to the occupied crimea, excuse me, bulk carriers, sea vessels, and this is already, excuse me, a dimension that even goes beyond the traditional dimensions of security, and by the way, these nine agreements, he just mentioned it, they put risks there that come from our occupied territories, we generally hardly even discuss individual risks, an example is..." organized crime, which uses the occupied territory as a gray zone, respectively, and this is precisely what worries many countries, and we have to share this concern with them and provide clues , how can we help with this, because for example, the same occupation administrations,

so-called in the occupied crimea, and in melitopol, and in genichisk, they are merged with the mafia, right, not just, of course, the russians rely simply on criminals, not just , you know, on collaborators or on... this is a general criminal crime, for example , human trafficking, yes, pedophilia, sorry, on an industrial scale, so that you understand the situation regarding crimea, and this issue we have to put on the table of our partners with evidence and proof, and not just excuse this respect to talk about the cognitive impact on the population of the occupied territory, and meanwhile on the territory of the occupied peninsula we see how russia initiates, continues to initiate criminal cases against representatives of... an example of crimean solidarity, and this week we saw that russia opened the next criminal case, administrative proceedings against lutwie, khanumzodieva and other crimean tatars, and also this week there was news that russia is planning to call up 15,000 more people to its army in crimea. here's how you

rate this latest news and whether it's available now some recommendations to citizens of ukraine living in the temporarily occupied territory. we have slogans and there is life, well, certain slogans, so not as an example, so go go to captivity, so they say, with an example, the general question is how to be a crimean tatar in this situation, there are two options, wait and leave, someone says , from respected people, wait, the question is what can be expected, you understand, my advice to all those who are in the risk zone to leave the occupied territories, you can return, this is tragic, this is a very tragic story, leave the historical homeland, i understand that. but it is better to return alive, to return one's own family, than to become another victim of the occupiers, this

choice must be made, and today we see that directly, let's say, this may most likely, well, there may not be a ukrainian flag over bakhchisaray, and in in these situations , you cannot say that everything will be fine tomorrow already tomorrow, you know that, it is a certain, as they say, responsibility to say so, and therefore i would advise you to always assess the situation in the following way, if you are in the zone... and the risk zone very wide, in fact, it is any draft the crimean tatar youth is any person who has done anything socially active in his life, he is a believer, yes, because we see how they painfully treat any really believing person, this applies not only to the crimean tatars tatars, they persecute several religious groups, for them any unification, not just from above, but any unification from below on the basis of the separation of certain spiritual values, for them it is a danger, ugh, and therefore such a person, to be over there on the peninsula... a risk zone and i always am he said, the number of political prisoners in crimea is determined only by the occupation system, how much

they can digest, and sorry, to fight them simply with help or help to families or by increasing this attention to international platforms, all this should be done, but it will not solve the problem, this is draining the sea with a spoon, tomorrow we will free 20 people, exchange them, there will be some mechanism, they will plant 100 new ones the day after tomorrow, well, because the whole people are simply hostages, yes, the whole people and so that the people will not be. hostages it to reduce the number of hostages, it's sad, but it's the truth we have to deal with. well, that is, if i understand correctly that, well, now we see that there are negotiations between ukraine and turkey about the release of crimean tatar prisoners, but we have seen, meanwhile, news that russia does not really want to release the crimean tatars, there are still agreements regarding crimean tatars, prisoners of war, but, if we are talking about political prisoners, russia simply does not want to. why do you think? well, look, the question is that there is a question of exchange

prisoners of war, often the aggressor is interested, as they say, in exchanges to get certain categories of their prisoners of war, this is not a secret, so they go for it in general, yes, regarding civilian hostages, they have a standard position, it is very difficult , they are very reluctant to go for it, of course, you can always offer such as... they say, clients that they cannot refuse, but there are certain questions here, but do we have these clients, right? here is a question for our law enforcement officers, we have a huge number of bodies regarding crimea, we can see there are a lot of absentee certain decisions, that’s right, let it be in 10 years, well, at least something will be done, but let’s say frankly, if we wanted to arrest more of those collaborators who are on the mainland, believe me, they are there, here you should only have some legal knowledge, certain political will. for example, regarding those still the owners of the real beneficiaries of businesses in crimea, yes,

if there were several such beneficiaries of businesses, well, we model, they are behind bars, like medvedchuk, would mr. putin or his crimean henchmen agree to an exchange, that is big money, these are the beneficiaries, they know a lot, believe me, they would exchange all the crimean tatar hostages, but for this political will is needed, and what about the role of turkey? turkey is an intermediary that has its own interest. turkey has a lot of its interests, they should be treated with respect, it is a sovereign independent state, it has democracy as the basis of governance, there are democratic competitive processes, and a lot of interests in turkey depend on geostrategic interests, political interest of the competition of political forces, we see the results of the local elections, they are, let's say, special, painful for someone, joyful for someone, but the following dimensions will follow. the elections are also in this and it affects the politics of turkey, and the third situation with all due respect

to turkey is the economic crisis, uh, there is an economic crisis, and today they have, well they want, let's put it bluntly, to have economic profits from all sides, this life, we have to take this into account, therefore we have to perceive such mediation taking into account these three, as they say , factors, and these three factors are objective and it is not we cannot criticize for the turkish language, this is their life, of course, it is interesting that in the occupied... in the occupied crimea, the russian authorities began to detain not only crimean tatars, not only ukrainians, yesterday there was news that they detained russian neo-nazis. who seem to have organized their activities with imperial flags, these are such interesting people, all wearing tattoos with various elements similar to the swastika, what if they are connected to the special services of ukraine. and at the same time , they seem to be connected with ukraine, that is, for them there is not even a formal

principle that if you are a russian nationalist, then you are safe. eh, if you are not loyal to putin, they will come to you anyway, that was all the time, what would be the specifics until the 22nd year, look, i said this many times, this is the mantra for some diplomatic ways, yes, this is it's a great pity for a politician with whom someone tried to fight, then had problems because of it, so someone just turned a blind eye to it, when we talk a lot about political prisoners in crimea and allow the most powerful ukrainian beneficiaries and have a business, we do not punish a person who simply lives in crimea, as they say, who, well, excuse me, has some life experience there, she sees it all, she perceives it critically, correctly, and she understands here is the situation until the 22nd year, which is very unfortunate, the situation of this gray zone that was there for a long time, a person adjusts his life, the life of his children, he mostly does not perceive the occupiers as a just and legitimate

authority, and that is normal, but she understands that this is for a long time, and therefore a lot of people and... crimean tatars and non-crimean tatars, this challenge is common here, until the 22nd year, as they say, they did not show their public position, because it was them, as you know, like soviet times, people always kept this attitude, like they say in their pockets, and then in 1991, everything changed, although it seems that everyone voted, as they say, for lenin, stalin and other such people, the question is, what changed, after 22, two things changed , the first thing, yes, three, the first thing, everyone understood that this gray, this gray area, this... this is infinite, like they say it will end. a great war cannot go on for centuries, now for 12 centuries. the great war will end in a few years with the defeat of russia in one form or another. this will definitely lead to a change in the situation in crimea. how is the second question, but there will definitely be a change, and absolutely everyone understands this, from the crimean gauleiters to the last, as they say, crimean bum, what will change is

the first thing. the second, the second, this is the second, this is important, this is the maximum total persecution of the ukrainian. that is, for the very fact that you are it is not just that you are a citizen of ukraine, that you are an ethnic ukrainian, or that you just know that you sing a ukrainian song, for that they began to persecute you. and thirdly, these are crimes, or war crimes committed on the controlled territory, murder, fratricide, directly, let’s say, the terrible things that the russian federation and the posypaks did, these three factors, they affect the consciousness of any crimean, people simply cannot to remain silent physically, in them, a normal person can no longer restrain herself. therefore it is a wave, and therefore these phenomena have become thousands, they look, in two years about a thousand people were punished, thank you very much, this is a signal that crimeans are already waiting for the liberation of crimea and understand that this whole system is collapsing, boris babin was on our air, ex-representative of the president of ukraine in the autonomous republic crimea, as well as gulsum

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espresso channel. today in our program war and weapons, we will talk about the battle for the skies , air dominance and how to achieve it with our air force and forces. defense in general, and here, of course, the first steps are the acquisition of f-16 aircraft from our partners, there are high hopes for these fighters, but it should be understood that these aircraft in limited numbers will not become something like such a universal silver bullet, however in a certain way f16 will be able to change the rules of the game in the sky over ukraine. at the same time, by the way, the minister of foreign affairs of denmark recently stated. that the first six f-16s, he said, will be delivered this summer, and most likely they will be the first f-16s that will be

used for air defense missions. and the prime minister of belgium said the other day that ukraine can receive the first plane by the summer of this year, which is quite positive. meanwhile, we are waiting for new opportunities for the fighter jets for the defense forces, the ukrainians add. unmanned aviation complexes, how they develop, how adapt to the new requirements of the military, so we will find out all the details about the f-16 fighters and domestic drones in the next issue of our war and weapons program with ukrainian aviation experts and drone developers. my name is serhiy sgurets, i am the director of the defense express information and consulting company, which is currently working together with the espresso channel to cover the most relevant issues. trends in the life of the army and the defense of the industrial complex, and now we are joined by valery romanenko, aviation expert, leading researcher of nau, mr. valery, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear

the espresso channel on the air. to each other, have a good day. of course, we have the basic topic of the f-16s, but an even more basic topic is air dominance , and i can't help but start with the first question, which is about what the commander of the air force said today. that it was possible to shoot down this russian tu-22 m3 bomber, which was used by russia for the attack. what is your reaction, can we assume that this carcass was shot down, possibly by the s200 complex, how did you manage to shoot down the russian a50? well, for now, so to speak, i am waiting for more detailed reports, they say that they really shot down. s200 in terms of range, it matches, in general, these bombers launch x22 missiles, in which the range there is approximately 400 50 to 500 km, yes, accordingly, they

are suitable for hitting, well, not only front-line cities, but for flying somewhere deep, they can come closer to our territory and thus find themselves in the range of our long-range complexes, well, i do... and well, as far as i know, before the start of the war, even before the start of the invasion , one s200 division was restored in our armed forces, and maybe we got additional missiles or additional launchers, or in general, whole complexes that were in service with poland and bulgaria remained in the arms of poland and bulgaria, well, i hope that this trend will be continued, it will frighten the enemies, and now let's move on to the topic. in the 16th, can we now say about the general indicators of the quantity that we receive from our partners and about the expected technical.

characteristics of these aircraft, what is the best performance we can hope for in those realities given those previous promises from our partners? it is difficult to say anything here, because there is so much, so it is closed from any media coverage, that one can only make some assumptions? well, the first assumption is that we will get the planes in the same condition as they were, let's say, in the armed forces. let's say, denmark, denmark and norway, yes, these planes were, well, let's say, a little not modern, they correspond to the block 50-52 standard as it is now the main aircraft in the united states air force, the united states air force, but there are radar stations, the 66th stations, there is a second modification

or a third modification. with a range of 110 km, compare with the russian su-35, su-30 sm fighters, yes, the range is about 300 km, that is, it is inferior, perhaps, perhaps, during, so to speak, the current, well , overhaul of these aircraft before they will hand it over to us, some more modern radar stations will be installed, well then, of course... our chances for a full-fledged fight, the opportunities for our pilots to fully fight against russian fighters will increase significantly, well, in addition, this is an average option, if we still get planes with radar stations of a different trip type, for example, there is the 86th station, yes, it already has 120 km, and in general for all planes. er, which

have passed the moscow state university, the moscow state university midlife update, yes, that is, modernization during their use and during their operation. so, they got an opportunity during the next such stages, as they are called they, after modernization was difficult, this is mllu, and then there were stages of improvement. so, after stages, several stages, these planes received missiles with a range of 160 km. that in general exceeds the range of russian missiles by 40 kilometers, that is, somewhere we lose in capabilities, somewhere we gain better opportunities to defeat russian aircraft, and in general, what i really hope is that these planes will have such modern, powerful ws, such as on vampire complexes to

destroy warty drones. 25,000 such rockets dollars for comparison, the cost of a shaheed is somewhere around 200 thousand 150-2000 dollars, that is , we can use the f-16, if there are even older models, we will be able to destroy russian shahedes quite effectively and cheaply, but in general , you know the question, inexhaustible equipment, such different weapon options so you better ask some more specific points, because i can tell a lot here, because they know these machines quite well, i see quite a lot of them, well then it actually turns out that we will have to form such tactics where we we have advantages, that's where we act, if our radar is worse than the enemy's, and the missile is better, then, after all, we will probably get involved in the task of air defense rather than some aerial duels, where we are unequivocally.