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that men abroad sit in restaurants while others die at the front, well , quite logical and correct questions are articulated by the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, no one will argue with this, but over the past two years we have actually seen many variations of how people tried to leave abroad both legally and illegally, and these systems are the way, we remember how places were bought there, people left as volunteers and did not return to... ukraine, mr. maksym, you say that there is more politics in this decision , a but if we talk about the practical plane, kuleba does not know how many ukrainian men will return, if, if this number will not be so significant, is it correct to say that we took this step, we were wrong, but we acted according to such and such, to such a situation. and this does not contradict the constitution, and
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that every citizen of ukraine must protect ukraine, wherever he is, he must return to his homeland no matter what. well, you know, if those words, that the boys in the trenches are tired, and the other boys shouldn't there at this time to sit in restaurants abroad, someone said, well, some... a public figure or even a politician from the podium of the verkhovna rada, well, this is the highest, because in principle , we read it every day on social networks, and this is such a common opinion, and she is obviously fair, but the minister of foreign affairs is not the kind of person and not the kind of position in which such statements are made, to be honest, speaking in principle, that is, the minister of foreign affairs is a person. which should
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be based on a clear legislative framework and conduct state policy on such basis it's normal to comment on all this, well, it's just not serious, so i think that it was really about some kind of political action, about some kind of political task, you know, by the way, in one of the last polls, dmytro kuleba was on, it seems, among... representatives of the current government in the second place in terms of trust and recognition after volodymyr zelenskyi, the president of ukraine, so i do not rule out that this is some part of a pr campaign, maybe we will soon see dmytro kuleba in the position of prime minister and it's just a special pr campaign for him organized, and perhaps, on the contrary , they decided to burn him, so to speak, in... in this
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, in this action, he will be framed, as it is called, and in the future he will be responsible for all the consequences that we are talking about, by the way, i do not think , that there will be special courts, i think that simply in some countries decisions will be made that will solve this problem in that the main problem is that, the main problem is that in... parts of ukrainians will be overdue their foreign passports, and the host countries will have to deal with it somehow, that these will be their problems, they can send these men back, which is very expensive, difficult, and there can indeed be serious lawsuits, they can somehow limit their rights, but i think they will go the way of these european countries of ours for some time ... norms that will allow
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the use of these passports, in short, i don't think that it will have any serious, well, it certainly won't return these men to serve in the ukrainian army, but it's also unlikely that it will create such big, significant problems for them , there is a stay abroad, well, that's it a resolution of the cabinet of ministers appeared that it is forbidden to issue a passport of a citizen of ukraine or a foreign passport... to ukrainian men abroad aged 18 to 60, they will be able to obtain such documents only from a territorial body or a territorial division of the migration service, it is meant state migration service, such passports are not forwarded to a separate unit or foreign diplomatic institution of ukraine for the organization of their issuance; however, these requirements do not apply to ukrainian men who have... the right to cross
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the border during martial law, well, i understand that now generally these departments are consular or there is a state enterprise that worked. abroad, they will not issue passports to those people, they will have to go to ukraine, that is, even if they register with the tsc, as far as i understand this resolution, well, let's see how it will be a decision to act abroad, and what way people will bypass it, because probably some people will either return, or bypass, or return to ukraine, how many men will return, let's see, i will remind our... viewers that today we are conducting a survey and we are asking you about whether consular restrictions for men abroad are justified, everything is quite simple on youtube, yes no, or write your comment, please below this video if you are watching us on tv pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if you
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think consular restrictions on men abroad are justified 0.800 211 381 no 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free, vote: another news that came in parallel with the news about the allocation of 61 billion dollars in aid to ukraine from the congress and senate of the united states of america, the state department of the united states of america published a report for 2023, which concerns the violation of human rights in ukraine, adding there the point about the national telethon, which... writes in his report. the national telethon, a rotating platform of channels that toe the government line in war coverage, allowed an unprecedented level of control over primetime television news. what's more, some media outlets have reported suspensions
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from lucrative terrestrial broadcasting contracts and those from the president's office as early as the spring of '22. how are these conclusions, gentlemen? regarding the single telethon, how and whether they will affect the actions of ukrainian officials and the existence of the telethon itself or the reformatting of this marathon or the state department, their comments will in principle be perceived as advice that you can and should not use, mr. oleksiy, you know, many thinks that here the period of the acute phase of the war. to talk about freedom of speech, about the media, about the marathon, this is trivial, it is secondary, no, nothing like that, that is, if you look at how the west perceives ukraine, that is, the evaluations of various governments, international organizations, international funds, there are indices of democracy and everything
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else , the issue of freedom of speech is always in one of the first positions, and therefore it is quite natural, it is not just about the broadcast format, it is about the fact that... the first for a group of tv channels, a group of tv channels was simply thrown off the air, as they did with esreso tv, and no one gave an explanation for this, only at the level of the spokespersons of the president's office, so in an attempt to have a sense of humor, they said that they were saying that because of their sympathy for certain politicians, well, that's the first thing, the west does not accept this, democratic countries do not do this, and it needs to be understood, and that is why this assessment, it lies in the decision. governments on other issues, on financing ukraine, on supporting ukraine, possibly including with weapons, that is, this is exactly the topic that feeds the positions, i support the positions of ukrainians, ukrainian skeptics in the european union, so these are simply
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unacceptable things. question number two, which, in my opinion, is no less important, is not, again, not about the broadcast format, but about a huge mistake in... the authorities, which was made in the late spring, early summer of '22. i suppose that in the first months of the acute phase of the war, the marathon position was probably justified, for a few weeks, maybe a few months. then a huge mistake was made. due to the preservation of the marathon format , we had a surge in confidence and a surge in ratings various anonymous sources to the telegram channel. other media, other social networks. and here there was a huge problem. today, according to various surveys, about 80% of citizens will receive information, the first source of information is sources in
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social networks. and this is a disaster, because russians behave in the telegram network just like at home. now i can count on the fingers of two hands millions of 15. russian and pro-russian channels that work in the direction of russian propaganda, and no, obviously about several tens of millions of ukrainians who read these channels. this is a huge mistake that just needs to be fixed. thank you, mr. maksym, how do you evaluate these criticisms of the state department and the state information policy in general, because we are not talking about a single telethon, we are talking about how our information field, which is managed by the state, how effectively this field fights, including russian propaganda, oleksiy mentioned these telegram channels and clearly about... this environment in which millions of ukrainians live, and obviously, one thing
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turn off espresso the fifth channel direct from t2, and another thing is to make an effective, effective barrier for russian propaganda resources, or to create a powerful tv channel that would speak and introduce counter-propaganda, eh, i think that this this assessment of our western partners, it probably will not be decisive for the formation of government information policy, but it is quite symptomatic, and it actually reflects the paradoxical or even absurd situation that exists today in the information space, actually, i would emphasize the already mentioned figure of 80% of... ukrainians who receive information from alternative sources, this is very
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important, that is, in fact, if the idea of ​​a single telethon was to speak with one voice, and in conditions, acute, extremes, when the whole nation really spoke with one voice and listened to one voice, it was justified to some extent, it was more effective and necessary. in this situation, it is possible, but, by the way, it is possible, there is another aspect here, it is no secret that our main tv channels are financed by large administrative and economic groups, which in this situation obviously could not fulfill their financial obligations, and it was, so to speak, also an economic necessity to consolidate this media resource, but... the situation developed and to this day it has reached its opposite, that is
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, today in the ukrainian information space, in the ukrainian public space there are many opinions, there are many positions and to pretend that a single telethon reflects a single consolidated the national position, it is simply inappropriate, simply ridiculous, so there is obviously only one way out of this situation, to return to normal broadcasting, to leave obviously some official channel in order to understand the policy, what policy the government professes and what it actually proposes the government, i mean in a broad sense, first of all, the president and his team, but at the same time to give an opportunity to develop all other approaches, all other views, especially since we have made sure that in the so -called... alternative field or on ago to the espresso tv channel itself or to other
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tv channels that have, so to speak, gone off the grid, but nevertheless have access to their viewers through youtube channels and so on, it’s okay, nothing that contradicts national interests is said, so it’s simply necessary to recognize this situation, but the last thing i would like to say is to do this logi'. and the necessary step to return to the normal broadcast network may be interfering now, well, such a trifle as funds, budget funds are allocated for the same single telethon, in which there are potential recipients, and whom, so to speak, it will be somehow inconvenient to refuse, but because of such, you know, strange and not quite. factors that fit into the state strategy, we are and continue to be in this
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absurdity. thank you, mr. maksym, one more short topic, gentlemen, the departure, or , rather, the reception, of an agreman from great britain, the former head of the armed forces of ukraine, valery zaluzhny, one of the leaders of the popular trust rating, is going to be a diplomat. tical service to london, that is what it means for politics, and in general, whether or not it is appropriate to talk about politics as such, which we... are used to, which we are used to talking about, during the war, but there is no useful factor, irritation for many politicians, there is no popular trust rating, maputsirskyi does not get this rating so quickly people's trust, lack of merit in the state, does this affect the fact that its ukrainians can
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forget him, or forget his merits. and , conditionally speaking, will he return from great britain no longer as beloved as he was until now, mr. oleksiyu? now valery zaluzhnyi is just silent, and this is the best he can do to do, because the insults on the part of the presidential team have accumulated quite a lot, and i think that if valery zaluzhnyi remained in ukraine, the risks for his political future... well, actually , there would be enough risks for his even free life , well, i will remind , that last year there were initiatives to conduct an audit of the armed forces, separate special information operations were thrown in there, there were even reports that zaluzhny was guilty of the surrender of southern ukraine, there were several more serious enough attacks, and
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therefore in the event that zaluzhny remained in to ukraine, i think that this wave of attacks could kill him hard enough... and the consequences, by the way, could not be unpredictable, so for him to be in britain as the ambassador of ukraine is not the worst scenario, certainly not the best, but not the worst, i emphasize, i am talking exclusively about his political future, because from the point of view of common sense, a hard worker is needed in ukraine in any position, i don't know, the position could be invented, a special adviser to the president on certain issues, a manager... state or non-state analytical center, which would send a folder with ideas and proposals to the bank or to the general staff every day, any role, any role, during the war, experienced generals simply cannot be scattered, it is not just irresponsible, it plays a rather serious a minus for the state, and this must be understood, but for the political future
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of the hard-working man, i think he has a margin of safety long enough, that is... the trust rating he had there, well, at least i saw polls that indicated about 94 % of trust, well, there is simply no such trust can be confused, i think that in the next year and more, he will remain, well, at least the number one politician in terms of influence, despite the fact that we have no political life today, that parties work either as volunteer centers, or in general with... stopped their work, and by the way, regarding the party, it would be fair if they would direct at least 80 percent of state funding to the needs of the armed forces, it would be a fair position, i think that a ukrainian citizen would i would rate the position quite disgustingly. thank you, mr. oleksiy, mr. maksym, this is the factor of the hard-working, how long
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can he be in ukrainian politics, the factor. remains an influential factor, i think that indeed, the industrious took a break, the industrious and obviously the people who are counting on him have some political, so to speak, calculations, because you cannot get involved in any politics, especially in ukrainian politics to go alone, it never succeeds and is not... impractical, so i think it is necessary to say zaluzhny and those behind him, in this sense, the factor of zulzhny is that the inevitable clash of the two most popular leaders of public opinion today, volodymyr zelensky, who remains
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a president with a sufficiently high level of trust , and valery zaluzhny. er, who, er, has not yet become a politician, let's be frank, but has a high level of trust, this is a collision, it is not inevitable, it has a personal basis, according to rumors, but according to, let's say, verified rumors , that is, uh, the experience of confrontation, and positions, characters and everything else, that is, this confrontation is simple postponed in time, i... we will see how both sides will use this time, and here actually, so far, the struggle between the teams of these politicians is taking place in this way. kilyva mode, that is, zelenskyi's team hopes that zaluzhnyi will destroy his authority, well, some, some such steps, well,
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for example, there is the defense of kivalov's dissertation at the odesa law academy, or there is the conclusion of the doctor of the medical commission for military service, some such steps. .. inexperienced politicians, they may reduce this rating and this trust, here i would in this sense would begin to discuss, i think that the rating and trust are decreasing, but i think that this pause that zaluzhny took is, first of all, really the only possible way for him to survive in ukrainian politics, because he would hardly go into such a partisan position, and on the other hand, it is possible. to remain in the public space, so far he has not said anything after his, after his resignation,
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practically no comment about the appointment as ambassador to great britain, this pause, it was prolonged, but it is possible in the post of ambassador to in great britain, we will already hear some first sounds, some first sentences, hopes of ukrainian politics. but here, gentlemen, we have one more date waiting for us: may 20, 2024, the day of the inauguration, the five-year anniversary of the inauguration of zelenskyi, the russians are torpedoing and saying that we will decide and say there about the legitimacy of zelenskyi, and why in your opinion , the ukrainian authorities, well, we understand that there are no elections, the president remains the same, but why didn’t the authorities go the way of... determining this status after may 20, 2024 of zelensky because the constitutional court, well, why didn't they
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just make a decision of the constitutional court, which in principle would allow to remove all speculations, well , at least it would be possible to just poke lavrov under the nose and say: "you see, our constitutional court has decided, it's not just". mr. oleksiy, well... the main thing: after may 20, the president remains 1000% legitimate, i spoke with many authoritative specialists in constitutional law, the position is simply unanimous. why didn't they go to the constitutional court, why didn't they use any other mechanisms, so on things, it was possible to gather 20 of the biggest authorities on constitutional law at a bank meeting and get their position. this was also not done, as were many other steps. which would indicate to society that the president was, is and remains legitimate. i think there is only one reason, the authorities interfered in the elections. well, now we are already
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forgetting, events are unfolding rapidly, but in november-december of last year, the authorities were seriously preparing for the elections, well , this was indicated by separate statements and separate comments of the leaders of the servants of the people, and actually there were all outward signs that a script was being prepared. elections, perhaps at the same time presidential and parliamentary, but as far as i know, the basis, the basic scenario was the holding of presidential elections, after them parliamentary elections, and that is why they interpreted the basic law, based on their own positions, and by the way, to confirm my opinion, just analyze the last four or five months, not a single representative of the government, by the way, i apologize, except for mr. veni... he took slavsky, as a constitutionalist, he took very a good position, very clear, all other representatives of the government said that
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the current legislation prevents the holding of elections, in other words, we change the law and proceed to elections during martial law, so no one paid attention to the constitution. thank you, mr. oleksiy, mr. maksym, what do you think, will this topic spread, and no, not only in russia, maybe someone will want to in ukraine. speculate on it? well, in general, maybe, maybe, somewhere, some bots on facebook are already throwing this topic, but i do not think that this position, this provocation, relatively speaking, about the recognition of the illegitimate government in ukraine, that it, well, will gain some kind of spread and go beyond such a marginal one. uh, marginal wave, the most important thing in this situation, i think, will be the position of our western partners, and the fact that... by the way, i absolutely
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agree with the fact that no, they did not hedge with the constitutional court precisely because was considered as a possible option for holding elections, and it is clear that in the current conditions, the current president has every chance to be re-elected, and this scenario was very attractive for the authorities, but when the situation, well, as if it reached another level, it became clear that... now there will be no elections, then, i am sure that all necessary consultations were held with our western partners, all assurances were received that they will not to raise the issue of the illegitimacy of the authorities, and that is why it was simply removed from the agenda, thank you, maksym rozumny, oleksiy koshel were guests of our program today, friends, during the program we conducted a survey, asking you
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