there are nuances that we need to know, take into account, well , there are two important factors, or three, which still leave me pessimistic that this is some such significant split. first, we still have little information, we remember when this information appeared, you know, there is pure information, there is a connotation, its evaluation, and some emotional color, but when only... but information appeared , that this timur ivanov was detained as the minister of defense, it was pure information, that is, everyone was involved, i mean the russian propaganda forces there, the russian forces in general, they did not understand how to present it, that is , he was simply detained, until it is clear, he is being taken here and there, that's all, now it is not clear how they will promote it , and so far even we see only assumptions from various sides, but there is no you know such a general line. this is the first, that is, we need

more information, more understanding of what narratives russian propaganda will choose, secondly, putin, so to speak, has been re-elected, it is his prerogative to propose a new composition of the government and new, new heads of these departments, respectively, in principle, this can be presented as a personnel planned rotation and send a shoiga. to some dsns, their analogue, somewhere else. and the third, ah, very important position, that is, what exactly did this timur ivanok do, he was engaged in construction, construction in all ages and in all countries was a very nice position, and it is really, without exaggeration, billions of dollars. he also engaged, so to speak, in the restoration of the occupied territories in the same mariupol, and not only.

the deployment of soldiers, these are billions of billions of dollars that are not actually accounted for, you can say, well, war, here the coefficients are increased, it is a state secret, so for now i would not call it directly a split of the elites and something very significant, we need more information, and again, if we wanted to replace shoigu, then in principle it is just the reason, that is, the re-election of putin and reformatting... of the government, this is quite a legitimate, legitimate reason and a legitimate date for this, as for the business elites, as for the inner circle, we see that it has actually, well, crystallized, it is actually unchanged, there they are trying to to show it seems that the fresh blood of this aptiy

alaudinov has been brought to the ministry of defense and that is what they call him, well, it seems that one of the alternatives to kadyrov regarding the new, as the new head of chechnya, or a possible watcher from the federal center, but it is still too early to talk about it, we do not see a fundamental split yet , and it will be...seriously influenced by how putin can or cannot expand his plateau of so-called stability after the prigozhin rebellion and after his so-called re-election, because what now seems to be in russian society there is no very serious protest mood there or any serious performances or any excesses, this in no way means that there will not be... tomorrow or

the day after tomorrow, and the reason for this can be anything, again, because , that the kremlin regime, putin cannot explain and cannot predict for the public when all this will end, and why, if everything goes according to plan, why the life of russians is steadily deteriorating and why, for example, for example, there may be a next wave of mobilization, we ... again, we have to this factor as well address: 74% of russians, this is generally across all generations, or if we take the generation of 18-30 years old, that is, which will primarily develop, 84 among them, among this age category, against the second mass wave of partial mobilization or mobilization, that is also stability will be a very important factor, mr. oleksandr, thank you very much for your work, for your evaluations over time. you dedicated

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in the conditions of totalitarian information confrontation. this work, a monograph, by the way, is extremely deep, which assesses the risks of the modern world. mr. grigory, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. to each other, good day. with the previous guest, we talked about what is happening on russia, talked about the fact that they have, conditionally speaking, a new social contract, although i... know that you do not support the word social contract in relation to russia, but in any case , i would like to hear your assessment of the fact that is happening now in the russian federation at the current stage, and what should we oppose from our side to those concepts that are now trying to develop in the russian federation under the leadership of this military-political clique? it must be said here that this topic is huge, but i will... try to be specific and precise. first,

let me pay attention, analyzing putin's regime by video information, and by or by the content they provide, is very unpleasant and practical. such a thing that works the other way around. all. our understanding that analysis is the basis of what we see doesn't really work with this mode, why? because they have created an industry that visually makes the reality they talk about, and the actual processes practically work in the other direction, hence the terms. the social contract, society, the state, all this is not about

putin's russian federation, there is a lot terms, practically, with which we operate here, and this is exactly our cognitive trap, i.e. learning processes from inadequate tools, and you ask a funny question, how and what to do about it? well, first of all, understand and accept what the european parliament did yesterday. there were no presidential elections in the conditional russian federation, they were recognized as illegitimate at the level of the european parliament. prior to this, parier, almost before the new year, said that after march 17 there would be no... legitimate government in the russian federation, which means there is no of legitimate power, which means that all institutions

are inadequate to international law, and let's remember that the putins themselves abandoned international law as a basis for relations with the world several years ago, but they themselves demand from all countries to follow this law, this is practically a paradox. shows the scale of the problem you are asking about, so you can tell about it in 10 minutes, you and i cannot, if there are questions, i will try to answer them, well, that is, as i understand it, we are now trying to analyze russia from its coordinate system, and russia has already imposed a different model of the world, and in fact, we are forced to act differently, then the question arises, what should we... analyze in the actions of the russian federation, and most importantly, how can we counteract these russia or corporations russia in

the information and military space? in this regard, indeed, you mentioned the word very correctly, corporation, i would refer everyone to the scientific, by the way, very powerful works of dmitry shusharin, he is a muscovite. but he is not putin, he is a scientist, he is very much like that a remarkable personality, and he wrote several works, quite academic, but very ... acceptable and simple, they are a pleasure to read, he tells what the modern regime is, modern muscovy, as we say in our center, and he shows why and which directions of interaction with this e-e state are inadequate to all the practices that exist in

the modern, international world, that is practically... yesterday, not the prime minister, but the foreign minister of great britain, cameron, announced that he and great britain cannot return to international relations with putin's russia federation. practically, cameron is correcting his mistake of the 14th year now, but what is very important, again great britain is raising for the first time... a regime of clarity in relation to the putin regime, absolutely in the absolute, that this substance is not contractual, it is not a system of international relations , that's why it needs to be dismantled, as we are already saying, then, mr. grigory, the question arises, does i have

a corporation there? russia is governed by an authoritarian regime. their concepts of changing the world order, and there is a democratic world, and there is ukraine, which must develop optimal ones models of countermeasures, so i would like to hear from you what is in our asset that allows, well, to provide a real counterbalance, and maybe even outplay the russians there on the information field, including on the military field. here i would say that... first of all, i did not agree on the corporation, the corporatization of the population, which was carried out quite technologically, led to the fact that there, that is, in russia, in the conditional russian federation, there is no society, it is difficult to understand , but it is so, because

each social group was given its own, as they say... a functional cell, and they perform it under pressure, under, by the way, genocidal behavior. the putinists have introduced genocidal behavior not only in the occupied territories of ukraine, they use it in the territory of the russian federation as well. it is very precisely shown in these natural or climatic disasters. when the water flooded entire regions, and that practically the central government and the local government do little for the people. this is an example when, practically, with their population, the putinites behave not as the government, not as representatives, let's say speak these social groups. therefore, the topic

is precisely that it is a corpo corporation that operates. a function of pressure, intimidation and survival, you are showing it in front of you, and this is the reality that is difficult to hide, but very interesting options, how they explain it, we do not have time here now, this is another topic, but what am i leading to , i am leading to the fact that you are asking what to do and why we, ukraine really has the potential and... perspective, to teach our partners to understand what is happening there and to understand what they are preparing. one of the main ones positions - they are not going back, they are preparing the whole world for such a future, which will operate with force, and force will supplant

international law and, in general, law and humanity as the basis of relations between people. that is, the topic of depopulation, the topic of humanity is practically the vision of ukraine. ukraine is now in the line of fire, showing not just valor, heroism and such honorable behavior. it also shows an example to the whole world that our dying soldiers show a higher, higher category of humanity, because they save. with their lives not only of fellow citizens, not only of settlements, where they fight, and they practically save ukraine as an environment of... and a space of world statehood, that is why it is ukraine that has both doctrinal advantages and visionary advantages

, just the ability to hold this civilizational jsc, why, because putin's people do not allow them in full mode to technological possibilities, and here is an example for you, on the one hand, the story of a world-class tragedy, on the other hand. let's say, the limit of this tragedy is six reactors, that is, six possible detonations, i understand that these are different reactors, but no one knows, this is a precedent, what can happen in such states, with such behavior for more than two years of occupation of the huge zaporizhzhia nuclear power station, and therefore this is an example of how today it is both historical and... an example of the future, therefore it is completely different the conditions in which we have to live, act professionally, and the most important thing is

to manage, that is, to combine the efforts of our partners from the standpoint of not only today, but tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, well, when we talk about combining the efforts of our and efforts of partners, we usually only talk about weapons lately, ramstein will take the lead there. will give a certain amount of weaponry, this will strengthen our capabilities on the front line, but it means that then in this process of interaction with partners we have to add a conceptual component of civilization, which so far, as i see, it is not always perceived by partners, this means that our diplomatic, these political bodies should still work more effectively in this direction, and on the other hand , the army should still, if the risks have increased, the threat formats are changing, then conditionally speaking... the future appearance of the ukrainian army must be adequate to the threats that russia produces on the battlefield, and it is not only the cabs, the artillery there, or the advantage in the manpower of the equipment, what do you

think of about this? and very interesting, very good question, huge, but i would like to say only one thing today and here: understanding the future of the army shows how inadequate we are. to understanding the modern world, why do you think that the future of the army will not be a safe space in which everyone performs different functional, you look at the modern army, you understand that if society, ukrainian society, did not work, then the topic of the army would be practically nominal and... we probably wouldn't be sitting here like we are sitting now and we use the modern possibilities of modern technologies,

therefore the topic of the future is primarily the topic of space, what the putinites are doing, today, yesterday, the day before yesterday, every day, they are destroying sumy region with cabs, what are cabs, these are the technologies that we have today no, i.e it dominates. or technologies today, what our partners are doing, they are watching and talking, we are waiting for the ukrainian pilots to prepare, this is normal, this is abnormal, and you know why it is abnormal, because they do not understand that they are practically watching how they will be killed or to destroy tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, so we do everything to prevent this from happening. but simply i am using this example, exacerbating it, showing how inadequate the situation is in terms of understanding, perception and

actions. you made a very good point about the weapon, yes weapons in understanding, perception and actions are modern at the level of super-dynamics of the communication and content order becomes the first question, and the question of thinking, thinking of what? thinking of an operational action, uh, a specific task, or thinking just like the global world, which is faced with a choice, or we will operate with civilizational regimes of international law that ensure humanity and peace, or we are practically now waiting, as in the 14th year, all we were waiting for what would happen next with ukraine, we waited until the 22nd year, we... now we are with you in the 24th year, what we are doing, we act inadequately from the position of partners, why? because our partners do not understand. these depths, it is

impossible to understand, from their level of comfort and life in the rule of law, in the spirit of law, to understand how terrorist-barbaric groups, which are represented as a state, operate, it is very difficult, so we have to work harder, you and i, well then literally one minute to answer where we should go from the point of view of the vision of our... society, because the nsdc announced that it is necessary to ensure the development of a doctrine, regarding planning for the future after the war, this is what the secretary of the national security council oleksandr danilo said about it, he said about the development of this vision that will contribute to the formation of public consensus, i would like you to simply explain, in fact, why such a doctrine and vision are needed and why after the victory, maybe it...

was needed yesterday and even the day before yesterday, today, it is needed today, one minute is straight, well, it is a tin, but i will say, first of all, the doctrine should be as follows: ukraine is waging a war of ukrainian civilization, a genocidal war is being waged against ukraine aggression practices of terror and barbarism. ukraine must build a vision that began with... the maidan of freedom and dignity, and it can be called conventionally, as a working name, it is the vision of the maidan of ukraine, of civilization, peace and humanity. panego, grigory, thank you very much for the explanation, for your conceptual vision of what is happening in ukraine, around ukraine. let me remind you that it was hryhoriy lyubovets, the head of the commercial and content security center, and we talked

about such things that really distinguish us... society and the population in certain ways states from the point of view of forming a basis for conducting and endurance in combat operations, this is such a complex category, where there is a lot of dark, gray, and light, and this is something that should be taken care of by a state that wants to rely on the full potential of society and sometimes avoiding practices , which are provoked or generated by the russian federation, the russian way in certain things is actually harmful for... in order to carry out some transformations in our ukrainian society, we understand that this should not happen, precisely these new visions, new approaches need unity and society, and the authorities, and intelligent people who want to find their ukrainian way in such difficult conditions, when the enemy wants to destroy us, the army, the armed forces are extremely important, but we also need new ideas and unity, which is now extremely necessary in view of those the risks that russia is currently forming are not only on the battlefield, these

are the main... conclusions from this program, stay tuned to the espresso channel, there will be a lot more interesting. it's 6 p.m. in ukraine, and to your attention is a news release on the espresso tv channel. in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers. 38 years old tragedy at the chernobyl nuclear power plant. it still remains the largest man-made disaster in human history. millions of lives were saved thanks to the courage and heroism of disaster responders. on the occasion of memorial day, president volodymyr zelenskyi visited the city of slavutych, which was built

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