it will be clear, and how these actual potential threats can be eliminated, or compensated for, or prevented, or struck at a stage still there, say, the conditions of continuous preparation for use, and so on, all this depends on understanding, an objective understanding of the situation, with what we are dealing with, i would like to mention one thing to your knowledge, here we have heard, well , in my opinion since december, that first in... in march there will be a russian counteroffensive, then in april, now they say that it will be in june , it's also important to understand whether it's just an informational balancing thing, or whether it's, say, a serious assessment of the decisions of the military and political leadership of the enemy, or are these guesses, after all , in ukrainian society there is a part of people who do not suffer from multiple sclerosis, and they...

record it, and if it is americans, then they scan it 10 times , and they: yes, yes, yes, yes, well, if the answer is that it is in order to withstand, conditionally speaking, the psychological state of society, to level it from the point of view of the disinformation that comes in, i accept it, however it must be understood that our partners are great masters in monitoring such things, and they everything from... they pay attention, because things like what you and i discussed just now, plus the topic of the information field, they are primarily interested in , because they understand that everything else is a derivative of how society feels about itself, which in this setting, when every day they talk about some other treaty initiatives, some non-existing contracts of erdoğan’s projects, some other things... in

europe, conversations and so on, which, apart from a certain kind of information attacks, are not perceived by normal people, then here it is obvious that these are all attacks that the ukrainian language is subject to society, and they are also recorded, including the partners and tracked, and what is the actual reaction of the ukrainians, the ukrainian authorities, and the political leadership to all these ridiculous racist steps, i will not say. pay attention, once again nuclear blackmail, here is an interesting thing, this time, except for the ukrainian side, london, washington, paris were silent, they did not say a word, that is, two conclusions can be drawn from this: the first, that the fool is talking, that from above rolls, so no one pays attention to it anymore, this is an option possible. it is permissible in this situation, and

secondly, when they say that you can gurgle anything there, just try to do it, we see you all the same, although in the last six months in the united states of america, in great britain, several large monographs have been published, people, which are directly related to the topic of nuclear balance, nuclear shield, and there it is clearly indicated that any gunpowder, any even small... charge is fixed, it means that they have very good information and understand, in fact, what is happening, therefore, to kyiv, if kyiv understands this by its political leadership, it must be said that, once again, moscow is launching the topic of nuclear blackmail, only now through the mouth of this sick old cognac, swiss format, mr. ambassador, do you believe that will it be possible to ...

formulate some kind of consolidated position that would allow us to move the place from a diplomatic deadlock, yes? i don't know if china will be involved as a mediator and observer, yes, but in any case secretary of state anthony blinken has mine, i won't say kissinger's, but without a doubt the visit is important, and they showed the chinese and outlined certain lines, said: make up your mind, dear inhabitants of the sky. these two visits and the telephone conversation, or rather the telephone conversation, then the visit of secretary ellen, the secretary of the treasury of the united states of america, now blinken, which took place according to the arrangements of the telephone conversation between joseph biden and sidney pinney, which they showed, ah, the united states the americans, ah, are focused on security issues, because these two, these two are going to... beijing

concerned the first group of issues that concern ukraine, namely that chinese banks, including the state bank, finance defense and industrial enterprises. russian federation. the second is that china supplies equipment, goods and technologies for dual purposes, which means that there are also components and spare parts for individual weapons. the third very dangerous thing is that the volume of cooperation between enterprises of the military-industrial complex of china and russia is growing. and two weeks ago, when... with a trip yelen was in beijing, who met with the minister of finance, aka the vice prime minister, with the head of the central bank, the state bank, and china, where the emphasis was clearly placed, any movement of chinese subjects,

business or banks, continued , will be met with sanctions by the united states of america, despite the fact that both the united states of america and china, economically, financially, they are linked like siamese twins, because one has credited china with american resources, and america borrowed too much from china resources to feel absolutely free about commitments to china, but she has indicated very strongly about these things that the united states will not allow china to do this, threatening so-called ... long sanctions, which means that they will hit not only on the first phase, but also on the second, there about subcontractors and so on, with similar things, with the addition of the situation in the south china sea, the tension between china and japan and the topic of appeasing

the north korean chubby dictator, arrived on a visit and blinken, and on this topic there was a conversation about... including the supply of dual technology to russia and the possibility of china's participation, as of now, china insists that the russian federation should be at the meeting, which means that the chinese representative will not be present at the summit for the time being of peace as for this global peace summit, from my point of view... the maximum that can be expected from it is some text, well, a text that is agreed upon by those who will be, but it must be understood that if china is not there, then there will not be a whole series of states, the so-called global one half a day, how much does it affect the situation, well, from

my point of view, it affects the statistics, and no more and no less, because it will be enough simply, forgive for... a reinforced concrete union, those who are devoted to the idea of ​​democracy, who are devoted to the idea of ​​a civilized world, its in the future, because it is possible to get into the situation that we got into with the same budapest memorandum in the person of china, will join joined, moreover, even in 2011, china confirmed these guarantees in writing, it was signed... a bilateral agreement on the confirmation of real guarantees, as there it was written, in my opinion, it was even the month of june 2000, or i have already forgotten 2011, but this does not prevent china now from saying that we actually

have nothing to do with the situation, we did not create it, therefore and we still talk about the fact that we didn't sign, that's when i hear such things, well, when it's so-so, when lord david says it there. who at that time was still in distant student weddings and parties, and remembers little about these things, well, when wang yi says this, on whose forehead it is written that i was there, i remember how they signed in kyiv these confirmations of these guarantees, and immediately tells at the munich conference that we are here for nothing, at least it looks like from the point of view of even chinese philosophy, a little, well, forgive me for saying that. well, well, this , this, this, and not in the european way, and not in the chinese way, and not at all, because during all these processes, you were in the functional position of, well, almost the head of the ministry at that time, and it is so obvious that everything here needs to

be weighed very carefully , that is, to understand to what extent there may be variants of events, and in my opinion, that is the mind. that the situation is developing in a wrong way decreasing aggravation, increasing aggravation, then here, as the classical system says, it is necessary to cement. this core and to strengthen this core and move not just to words and texts, but to the fact that this core is united, forming a joint fighting fist, forming a headquarters, well, at least in geneva, if it becomes clear that china will not be there, the so-called countries of the global south do not, so in fact it is necessary to immediately move on to cementing and having a conversation about what, what, where to go next? already, well, the situation with israel, the situation in ukraine, the situation in the indo-pacific

region, it is already, it is already speaking, it is shouting that if it is not stopped now, and here it must be understood very well that the biggest beneficiary of the tension in the two regions, that is in the middle east in the indo-pacific region, will be won by moscow , and in many ways it initiates these processes, i am not talking about africa. well, everyone knows that the situation there is in shambles, in six to five african states, the power is actually captured by private militants of various ministries and departments of the russian federation. you talked about fist and about the headquarters, who could, in your opinion, really undeclaredly join ukraine and, in general, build some kind of effective additional structure? well, from my point of view , the british have been working on this for a long time, and the british are working on it, and something is creeping into my

mind, which is confirmed that the minister of defense of great britain shabs, he was actually appointed to this position in order to lead similar work. the latest decisions made by the british government reveal a lot. i do not rule out that it is necessary to return to the idea that i once expressed zbignym berzynsky, that military and political stability in the eurasian space can be achieved only thanks to the union of france, germany, poland and ukraine, this is a serious matter, we need to work on it, but i will say once again, from my point of view, the leadership in this process should be given to the british, and why, their understanding and vision of the eurasian space. is connected both with interests in europe and with interests in

the far east, in the indo-techogenic region, you can see how they are starting to work independently, it is obvious that they understand the situation that has developed and will develop in the coming years in the united states of america, and they are beginning to independently work out all these components, the thesis about transferring the economy to military rails, which was... for great britain, this means that the state receives priority in orders for defense products, notes that most enterprises will be obliged to postpone all contracts at the request of the state and fulfill only what the state says, i.e. the old man made it clear to everyone, well , if you stop... from foot to foot, well , then we will take on this responsibility and we will work.

thank you very much, mr. ambassador, for this extremely important and meaningful conversation. and i want to remind our tv viewers that now the iconic ukrainian politician and diplomat roman bezsmertnyi was working on the air of the tv channel. well, the time of our program is over, stay with the spresso tv channel. my colleagues will inform you about all the most important events of this day. take care of yourself and your loved ones. to meetings on the air. see this week in the collaborators program. selling bloggers, as a resident of makiivka, stavos of the kremlin in the temporarily occupied donetsk region. uncle vova saw what was happening and sent troops. but how did the propagandist solovyov use the mariupol madonna? everyone makes their own choice. hello, i'm elena. and this is the collaborator's program about traitors who went to serve the rashi

occupiers at the behest of their hearts and wallets. the bloody war unleashed by russia in ukraine showed that the internet and modern technologies have completely changed the tactics of the struggle. other fronts have appeared that also need to be defended. we are talking, in particular, about social networks, which rashka uses as a platform for his propaganda. a page or a telegram channel is enough to throw the desired message into the information space. by a crowded audience that reads, listens, and most importantly, listens. the kremlin goebbels are helped by tame and obedient bloggers, of course for wooden rubles. our today's issue is about yes. those influencers who called to support the occupation of our cities through social networks, to vote in illegal referendums and to help the russian invaders in every possible way, such as the blogger from makiivka vasiliev. relatives, look at the power. his full name is vasiliev yevhen gennadivych, he was born in 1993

in the city of makivka, donetsk region, where he graduated from school and college. my father was a miner, and my mother... a steamer, well, i just realized that for me, education is nothing at all, well, i don't need it. at that moment i already understood, there was a time that the director said: "look, vasiliev will not achieve anything, and in life only bad things await you there." we should note that the director was not mistaken, nothing good grew out of vasiliev. when russia began the occupation of the donetsk region in 2014, vasiliev did not think for a long time that he had become a militant of the terrorist dpr with the call sign mongol. they flew in on helicopters, the city is trashed, by people, just by peace, i realized that you can't stand aside when history is being made. from this piece of video, you might think that he is talking about the russian military, which occupied our territories, threw rockets, peaceful population, they killed our civilians and military, but vasiliev further explains who, in

his opinion, then in the 14th began bombing donbas. so they were in this rag, blue-yellow, all painted, and then uncle vova saw what was happening, then, thanks to him, he did not stay away, he sent troops. this nonsense is narrated with a serious expression by a person who stopped studying after the fifth grade, that is, thinking, and even more so, logically not about him at all, the kremlin's propaganda machine is designed for such people. in his latest vasiliev's interview tells when... in the 14th year, russia held an illegal referendum in donetsk region and luhansk region regarding their independence as so-called people's republics, of course he voted in favor, after which he threw away his ukrainian passport, and in general, when and now, he is ready to hand over ukrainian patriots to the russian executioners. were there no people in your circle who remained on the side of ukraine? no, if there were, they would

already be sitting somewhere in the fsb. i would immediately work on this topic. you are not afraid of this status. you imagine if there was a man in my circle , a valuable spy who could spread a beacon somewhere. later, vasiliev became a toothless blogger on an electric scooter in the temporarily occupied makiivka. now he has 90,000 followers on tiktok, 12,200 on telegram and 236,00 on instagram. to this entire audience, the vasilivs promote russian peace, bring humanitarian aid to the walking blacks. attributes all shelling of the civilian population to ukraine and shoots a video for soldiers, where he thanks them for protecting russian land from ukrainian fascists. and according to the schedule of thanksgiving to putin every day as a prayer. today, they came together and voted for our future, because

it will be the best with such a president. evgeny, you can thank putin for that. that he destroyed all this, although with your intelligence the real picture cannot be understood. now this blogger is sitting in makiivka, and we really hope that when donetsk region is under the ukrainian flag, vasiliev will go to our prison. it is not a fact that with his intelligence he will be able to understand his sentence, but i think his cellmates will explain everything to him. our next the traitor is just starting her... career as a blogger-collaborator, but i'm sure you 've definitely heard about her. on march 9, 2022, russia bombed mariupol. at that time, he was hit in maternity hospital number three. one of the journalists noticed a bloodied pregnant woman near the maternity hospital. it was mariana vyshemirska. the whole world sympathized with her.

but as it turns out later, the woman will choose the side of those on whose orders she and her then unborn child will perish. mariana will vote for putin, go to parades and to wear the goriv ribbon, telling that mariupol is part of russia. dear president of ukraine, volodymyr oleksandrovych, you promised that the ukrainian army would be able to protect us, but as a result, the city turned into a cage. until february 24 , little was known about mariana. at first, she lived in the donetsk region in the temporarily occupied makiivka. in 2020, she met her future husband and moved to mariupol, where she was caught up in a full-scale war. after the bloody events of march 2022 , mariana disappeared for a while information space, and then then she suddenly started appearing in videos of a similar nature. everyone goes to russia, to donetsk on their own initiative. people leave both for

ukraine from mariuppol and for russia. everyone makes their own choice. as it turned out, mariana returned to temporarily occupied donetsk, where she began to build a career as a blogger under a tricolor rag. on the one hand , mariana positions herself as a beauty expert. she has 72 thousand followers. and on the other hand, as a volunteer and public figure, and this is what her page is dedicated to telegram channels with 7 thousand subscribers. mariana concentrated her volunteer activities around mariupol. from the beginning of september 1 , 2022, she visited the temporarily occupied mariupol and distributed balls in the color of the russian flag to the students of one of the schools. later, she wrote about how happy the children are in the seemingly peaceful mariupol. thank you after that, the woman began to carry humanitarian aid from russia to the temporarily occupied donetsk region, and later it turned out that she was almost the only one whom

the russians allowed into the olenivsk colony, the place where our prisoners were then kept soldiers there, the traitor talked with one of the ukrainian defenders and later wrote a post that the fighter urged the ukrainian authorities to go to peace talks with russia. i am currently engaged in such a mission as tying up a prisoner of war. with their families, because i, as a mother, as a woman, as a wife, understand their pain and fear. we remember the tragedy that the rashists staged in the premises of the olenivska colony, so we wonder how much marianna's rotten oregano is worth, whether the kremlin paid a lot for her not just to betray ukraine, but so cynically worked off bloody rubles. when ukraine won the academy award for the film 20 days in mariupol, vyshemirska in her interview for the solovyov program. called the film a fair of hypocrisy, according to her, ukrainians are allegedly editing fakes about what happened in mariupol, while she is engaged in important matters. in the film, they used more profitable

shots at the moment of evacuation, i can't call it anything other than a fair of hypocrisy. the important things are to vote for putin in the presidential election and call for it to do others, to appear in regular propaganda videos in mariupol and to distribute humanitarian aid. help with words of thanks to russia. now this zaprodanka positions herself as a volunteer, an adviser to the leader of the muslim fake elnr and a member of the so-called assembly of the peoples of eurasia. at the same time, it continues to parasitize on the sensitive topic of mariupol, as it realizes that its popularity will not fade, it will become unnecessary for the kremlin. and this means that rubles will stop flying to the map, and it will again become a gray noun. but marianne, i have good news for you. our law enforcement agencies will definitely not forget you, and you will return to ukrainian mariupol, where you will answer for all your actions. in your case, the carriage will definitely

turn into a pumpkin, and you will go on foot, but not home, to the cigar shop. it was the program collaborators and i, olena kononenko. if you have information about the kremlin's progenitors, write to us at this e-mail address or simply on facebook, together we will send all the traitors on the trail of the russian. see you on air in a week espresso. welcome to the espresso channel. today in the war and weapons program we will talk about weapons, but in a somewhat unusual dimension we will talk about the potential and capabilities of society, if it is about ukraine or about... the population, if it is about the enemy russia, as the main and extremely important component of the war. it is not only about the amount of mobilization resources, but about what forces, motives, approaches, and concepts

are used by the states to resist and win the war. this is actually about the stability of our society against the russian horde that is coming the front not only under coercion, but also for money, and sometimes for the desire that ukraine and you and i do not exist. so, i'm also talking about our systems and whether civilization and democracy can give a decent rebuff to these authoritarian regimes with their invented and tried-and-tested hybrid technologies for establishing a new world order. this is what we will talk about with our professional experts in the war and weapons program. my name is serhii zgurets, i am the director of the information and consulting company defense express, which is now jointly with channel spresso aims to cover the most. current trends in the field of security and defense, and now we are joined by oleksandr shulga, the head of the institute of conflict studies and analysis of russia, this is such an informal association of social.

analysts, researchers studying russia. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. congratulations, i just want to clarify that now it is already formal, we are also registered as a public organization. well then i will say, i will also then add that, relatively speaking, you studied russia there not only theoretically, but were mortar, fought in the armed forces and saw what the enemy does on the battlefield, how he... acts, and this is probably also an important experience to understand the enemy. and i would like to start our conversation with whether there are differences in assessments of the russian state before the large-scale invasion and now after several years of war, what has changed in the enemy and what we did not take into account in the behavior, intentions, and moods of the russian population. in conditions

of war? first of all, we did not study russia deeply, comprehensively before the beginning of the 14th war , and even more so, it was a miscalculation, it's everyone's mistake, not only the powers that were changing, but also you and i, i mean scientists, experts, it's really us... we lived in such, you know, a world of illusion that we understand russians, we are in principle lived in the same country, yes, they can be superior, they can be so mean, if in simple language, but they do not pose a threat, all these statements at the beginning even of the division of the soviet union, regarding the fact that you are there

for crimea answer it is generally ours and so on, we thought that it was okay there is no such thing, well, they will talk and it will not go further, but even after the 14th year, when crimea was already annexed, when part of the territory in donbas was annexed, we still did not resort to a comprehensive study of russia, and it is really us, that our first very serious recalculation, on the other hand, the russians studied ukrainian society, studied up to... the 13th year inclusive and after the 14th, but the plus point is that, after all, they did not take into account, they did not understood ukrainian society, and it was a formal study, and in fact, these conclusions about ukrainian society, its readiness to fight, were constantly adjusted, and in fact , only what the superiors wanted to see reached the top, in fact, the conclusions were the exact opposite, our chaotic nature...

they took democratic principles for weakness and unwillingness to fight for their independence, that is, this is also a plus, they studied, and we did not study and did not see the threat, they studied, but they did not want to see real results, and what concerns russian society now and what we have to understand and that we constantly prove to our western partners, the problem of the russian-ukrainian war and russia's problem for ukraine. and the world, it is not exhausted by putin's regime, it is deeply rooted in such immanent features of russian society. changing putin's surname to mishustin, or to patrushev, or to sabyanin, even, will not bring anything fundamentally new, it will not make ukrainians and other neighbors of the russian

federation feel better. in complete safety, in the fact that russia is a predictable and non-aggressive country, on alas, this will not happen, you and i have actually returned to russia, as it was known all the years of its existence in one form or another, as a threat, and accordingly, we, as ukrainian society and as a state, and our partners in the european union and not only, have, well, have to accept it. this plume of the 90s, this raid, this unnatural situation in which russia was, it has finally passed and we will return, everything has returned to its circle, russia is a threat. mr. oleksandr, i would like to assess one thing based on your experience, that is now the russian military-political leadership is introducing a kind of new social contract, that is, i had an opportunity there.