minimum, what would you say to that? the minimum task is to maintain the line of defense as it is now maintained, the maximum task, i have already partially discussed this issue, is to go to the milky estuary, redo the land corridor to the crimea and go to the perekop isthmus and in this way strangle the southern pazdarm, will they surrender into captivity, whether they will make a gesture of goodwill and leave, or whether we will kill them, because that can also happen, why not, we somewhat do not underestimate that much. a russian soldier, so they shout something there and rehearse, but they fight and they fight quite fiercely, fiercely, but in my understanding of the task, give the maximum, i repeat, this is still a southern bridgehead, if there were a lot of the weapons mentioned, which we have listed, it is possible. mr. peter, thank you very much for your time, for your precise explanations of what is happening on the front line, i would like to remind our viewers that this was petro chernyk, a military expert, a colonel in the reserves, and this was a military column in... on the big air vasyl zyma,

stay on the espresso channel, there will be a lot of interesting things to come. thank you very much serhiy zgurts, thank you very much peter chernyk, always professional, always to the point, always, as they say, with a clear perspective of the war, with a clear , understandable analysis and about what is happening, i liked the words that there really are no... which i marveled at in this war, only by joint efforts, only by trying to get ahead of the enemy in one aspect or another, or at least somewhere keeping up with the enemy, we can achieve a result on the battlefield, because you know, when people say, defeat russia, russia must collapse, always must of course have the ideal dream when we talk about this war, and the ideal dream is for russia to simply fall apart, because it is still a great empire in fact, which it is part of. dozens

of small and large peoples, well, for understanding, in particular, if we are not talking about peoples, but about territories, then, say, a republic like sakha, it is known as yakutia, it occupies 1/5 of the russian federation, yakutia by its territory is more than western europe, and we understand that it is difficult to develop such a machine right away, but in principle we have it to do all we can do to compel the enemy to begin with, at least to leave our territory and not to touch. our nose, let 's say about sumy oblast, in fact , we will talk about sumy oblast now and in general about many important political and sociopolitical topics, and with our guest, whom we include in the conversation, viktor boberenko, political scientist and director of the bureau of policy analysis, if i'm not mistaken priput, mr. viktor, i congratulate you, good health to you, glad to see, glad to see and hear, well, first i will ask about the security situation in sumy oblast, of course, what... the border area, the enemy is

trying to either sneak in or shell, like today, day, night, past, please, what are they shooting, shelling, i was also in one of the front-line communities today, we are delivering repair kits, such and what can i tell you, some heads of communities should be given lifetime monuments, because how involved they are, how effective they are, well done, some of them. weakly, but this is clearly visible, yes, there , for example, take 200 repair kits, but you have to deal with it, distribute it, deliver it to households, and the organization provides help to households, someone, give what, 200, let's take 400, 600, i have 600, the clerical community says that we have 800 houses without windows, of course, we will take some, but i won't name them, like, no, there, like, we don't need, but why? you don't have to, because you have

to give it out, and you have to take care of it, but the majority of heads of the administration, vysarivska, bilopolska, novoslobitska, yampilska, well, just fire, heads of communities, and others, that is, everything, everything very much, very much, if they would hold on, yes, of course, pisarivka, well raz bombed into rubbish, there will be a middle, no, there will be a middle, there i am glad viko, may i say right away that... that this is not a question, it is just a matter of saying, so that you also talk about it. today i read the news that people are returning to the velikopysarivsk and middabutsk communities, despite the fact that this is a risk, despite the fact that this is a territory, very well, by the way, journalists wrote in this material the territory of death, and explain this phenomenon , isn't this a phenomenon, and again, if people return, where do they return and under what circumstances threats, and people, people are returning to their gardens, there in... they are already making arrangements there in

pisarivka itself, pisarivka is 7 km from the border with russia, but they came and disgraced the garden, they have to plant potatoes, but people are coming back, well ... there , children are forcibly evicted from a five-kilometer zone, so i believe that i rarely praise the government, but here it is necessary to praise, because it is correct, the state is responsible for children, and if the parents are irresponsible, then this function is on themselves the state has to take it, the old people are already there at will, but the big registry office has moved there, almost the whole community there is in akhtyrka or in other chernychan communities, well, those who... further from the front there are krasnopillya, myropyllya, khatyn, young women come to sumy, but they are somewhere in a slightly panicky mood, that’s not the point, because we have, well now is the second series of panics, last week there was just panic-panic, and that's all, they will come, and you know, there, like me

, everyone thinks that i am better informed than others, like there, viktor, and they will already say that here rosyushka will advance, four chechen battalions, yay-yay-yay. i i say, what do they say about it in the only marathon? and people are like that, well, who believes in a single marathon in our time, there is like, who the hell thinks the truth, but like in that kinzadza movie, that is , we can say, for some reason they threw out espresso direct fifth tv channel from the networks , by the way, i will tell you about my favorite espresso in akhterka yesterday, today. this morning they removed it and direct espresso was on the cable network, then the region put pressure on this owner of cable networks for a very long time and he removed it, the fifth still remained, direct espresso, that's all, by the way, i can't, mr. viktor, i'm sorry, i can't help

but intervene, well, first of all, i think that now my colleagues who work with cable operators, actually with whom i understand certain agreements, they will take it in pencil, and the second, at their word. about the marathon, so that you continue this topic, because it is important, since you have already talked about it, serhiy leshchenko, i don't know if he is well -known or infamous, he is now an adviser, as far as i understand, to the head of the president's office , he said yes, well first, why he said so because the state department, the state department of the united states of america, he issued a certain prescription to the telethon, to this single news in the sense that there are certain violations, well, there are signs of flight. of censorship, serhiy leshchenko said that if there is no telethon, chaos will arise, because there is a lot of fake news and the only news telethon gives people the opportunity to receive relevant and adequate information, as far as i understand, this is verbatim, but again , this is the case , what you said,

there is no adequate information, well forever kebabs, it’s always good, the beautiful marquise, that’s how it is there, it’s like forever ot... solsky was taken there for e for ee that in the only marathon at least they say something about it, no, they don’t talk about it, they silence a certain part of the news, they the news series is actually formed as political technologists, and i think that podalaj is doing that, so that it would be or only cool, so that only the right experts are allowed there, well, from their point of view, yes, they are changing. those experts, where is that aristovych, where is the one who said, i stole, well, i did it there like, i've already forgotten the hero's name, well , they change heroes there, in general, but, well, it's obvious to me that the only marathon does not

speak in the news system, the only person you can trust there is the block that conducts public affairs, but just so you know that now... they are sending a new grid and they used to have four hours, six channels for 4 hours each, one for example, for example, i am on the supervisory board of public affairs, so i would be aware of the situation, yes there yes, one, for example , they have one hour in the evening, one at night , one not in prime time, but now they are all there they are trying to take away prime time from all tv channels and give it only to the pros, that is, now the network will not be evenly spread from all to a little bit , right? there, including that flashing e, well, what do you have today evening air, and tomorrow someone else’s, and the day after tomorrow someone else’s, and now it’s like, now there will only be pluses, well, the fairest channel, well, you know, to the word that there are

justified requests, these are not requests, perhaps the conditions that ukraine says, that there are certain agreements, there are even, let's remember the budapest memorandum. let's help, you promised and the united states, despite the fact that there was such a long delay, is helping, but they say, let's look at what is happening with you, we will now, by the way, move on to restricting the rights and freedoms of citizens, but jde said. that there are signs of political censorship, we say no, everything is okay, and here ukraine and the usa are working on an agreement on security guarantees, and they are already writing the specific text of the document, and this is official information, president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi said about this in an evening video address, the goal of the two countries make the deal the strongest of all where the specific foundations of ukrainian security for the next 10 years will be mentioned, the head of state added, here just to say that, well, that is , there is always such a one-sided unilateral order, but somewhere it is possible economically there is some progress, maybe there are... some moments, where the ukrainian authorities and officials are listening, but in the matter

of equal access to information, we do not hear it, do not see it, do not know, and speaking of this agreement, what can the united states of america guarantee us beyond the fact that they grant, to the word that this is the aid that ukraine receives now, it is the largest, and according to the experts who counted the analysts, it should be enough until the end of about the 25th year, what will happen next is unknown, but in any case , this is what we ... we sign, we work out, we say: help, at the same time at certain moments we do not go to meet our partners, well, because they also have their own values, they have their own understanding of how it should be, so the conversation begins with values, and the only value for the green government is one of the european values, this is european renovation, that is european renovation, they are there. stefanchuk wants him to be comforted, but he rented an apartment. cool mother-in-law, yes, and this is never corruption, that is, already somewhere in the west, from the budget of the verkhovna

rada of ukraine, it was paid from the budget from our pockets, well, that is, from our pockets, and for europe it would definitely be the end of a career , because there is such an institution as reputation, yes there, that is, reputation, to dampen the reputation, get dirty, go, we have johnson, boris johnson, whom we all loved so much, for what? his protégé, his protégé somewhere to someone, it is not clear how harassed, and then not only he left his post, but also boris johnson, and here we have an abomination of a minister who is detained, released on 75 million bail, 75 million is right there, but don’t be on drones, on 75 million bail he is on the run , and at the same time no one bears political responsibility, volodymyr oleksand. you said that this is your government, your government, that is , it is obvious to me that zelenskyi is

responsible for the minister, for reznikov the egg-bearing, and there, for everyone, for everyone, but for some reason they wash their hands, they are a little bit, i am in houses, the only marathon does not tell about it, and it turns out that you have half-half cabinet, these corrupt people, yes, and who is to blame for this? so that ukraine is fighting for europe, for european values, the government itself does not profess these values, and this is the paradox of our system, and not only that, they do it cynically, well, they are like, well, they will not leave us anyway, but we they will give weapons, and they are deliberately there , like, "get things in order there." we will not, we will continue to steal, and if you do not give money, and if you do not give military aid, russia will capture us,

and this, this is cynicism, when, well, it is as if the father beats the child there, so why, because the child cannot answer there, and here we are now, we cannot answer the authorities, so that the most active part of ukrainians on at the front, i understand, i have internal censorship, there i... can't push the authorities there, i definitely won't go to the maidan, because i say, we 'll deal with them later after the war, the main thing is victory, and we agreed that we are in the same boat, and we will not be there, we will not disturb them there, but they behave there dude, let's not beat each other, let's get them right, that's how the government behaves, it behaves unprincipledly, i i... it's simple, first of all, well, let's do it, now i 'll tell you about the sum, you say the right

words that they will not leave us, because the defeat of ukraine, well, it should not be, because it is the security of the whole of europe, and it is the european leaders who talked about it, they talked about it in the us senate, and when they came to convince mike johnson to vote, but here is the former secretary of the armed forces of great britain james hippie, said very correctly and just numbers. the defeat of ukraine will cost the west trillions of dollars, well, actually, this is this, this is according to the information from telegram, that's all, and that is, it is better to invest in victory. understanding that there are many nuances and minuses, yes, but definitely not no, not not to allow putin to win, but these are the moments, they are now, i do not want it to affect the agreements of any security, because first of all they suffer civilians, our army is suffering, and we understand that it is not those people who find 75 million hryvnias for bail

who will suffer, but those who the front lines, those people who are civilians will be affected by the attack, so i... any security agreement, but is it an understanding in the united states of america that we don't notice certain things, even though we note them, sometimes we say that, as jd said about the telethon, but we don't seem to notice when it doesn't smell very bad and we continue to work, this security agreement, it will happen, yes, but what will be the content, what we have already signed, those already signed , they, well, by and large do not guarantee anything, some kind of consultations, some kind of something else, but what about us it is necessary, here... we would have a security agreement, that once from the moment of signing, you control our airspace, yes there, such as that missiles will not fall, not the same as over there on odesa, kyiv, well, even on sumy, yes there, er, will not fall, because the united states will guarantee it, the united states will guarantee it, it's obviously not going to happen, and that's why it's an agreement,

yes, just like the budapest memorandum, it's an agreement about the intentions of some, about what.. . we will shake hands in this agreement and the united states will say, we respect you very much, you for we are very valuable, you guys, we are proud of you and that's all, but if there were specific steps, so that they would write there that yes, we will, we will make commitments there for 60 billion every year, they will pour you, yes, it would be better to 100, 100 billion, we will pour you weapons there, you don’t even have to... we are money, well, something in the budget, but that would be good there, there is f16, they have a thousand patriots, a thousand, but we seven cannot will ask, you know, by the way, i am talking about the f16 lyaevlazh, the spokesman for the air defense forces, said that bunkers are being prepared, are being prepared shelters, the necessary infrastructure is being prepared so that these patriots, not patriots, but f16s

, not only enter ukraine, but also be effective on the field somewhere. got into the kremlin, so that god forbid there are such people, i hope that they are not among those who have access to information, so that, god forbid , they do not pass those points, because well, by the way , you know, and the telethon and security agreement, for which we are fighting and for understanding. who are ukrainians, i read a very interesting story today, lidia stepanivna, she is 98 years old, i sorry, i didn’t give my colleagues a photo of this, but we won’t look for it now, it’s a short story, but she escaped from ocherting, where the russians entered donbas, 98 years old, she walked 10 km under fire, fell several times, then our fighters she was spotted, taken away, handed over to

the white angels, she was evacuated, and they say that this war is even worse than what she saw in the... world, because she says, then, our village, houses were not destroyed, now everything is destroyed, and she says, it's terrible, what 's happening there, but when, and that's it lidia stepanivna, her story, it should be for our partners, when a 98 -year-old woman walks 10 km without food, without water under fire, comes out from these liberators, and tells this story, it's just really cool, but it's just illustrates, we also had them in sumy oblast. who were occupied by the russians and also children of the war, well, somewhere there in the 30s of 32, who were still small when the second world war was, there are still many of them, well , there are not many centenarians left, and these testify, i.e. we have evidence there from the 34th year, and they too they remember that they were small, and now the russians behave much worse than

the germans, but even though we have the kursk region there. the battle was going on, and here we have the village of chernechchyna, literally under sumy, where , well, for six months the front stood, yes, and where the germans lived and in houses and all this, and in the same chernechchyna, such stories are told , that it was not as scary there then as it is now, yes, and it is a plus that sumyshchyna is a partisan region, we understand that there was revenge for the actions of the partisans, when certain actions took place there, well, the germans or there the magyars burned the new sloboda here , yes, i also once shot a film about it there, and nova sloboda is the haryun village, by the way, they are in our country... sumy region has the russian villages of povorsklytsi, soldatskaya, pushkarska - these are the descendants of riflemen , who were not finished by peter i, and they were evicted here from moscow,

here they are from pozhnya, tarasovka, soldatska, they beat these villages there with a dear soul, that is, they do not regret it, but ethnic russians live there, so that we know , this is exactly the kind of information that should be voiced, i hope that she is voiced by the same telethons, and i am also someone... about what kind of people are being helped today by the united states , the north atlantic alliance, the countries of europe, the countries of asia, the global south, everyone who helps ukraine, they help such a conditional lydia stepanivna, for the conditional children that i am reading about, they raised a lot of money in the lviv region, and the children who give some of their savings to the army, and the women who help, in fact, this, this helps these ukrainians. our partners, and i think they understand that, they're great they understand who exactly they are helping, and our army, which held out for a long time without shells, without support, without anything, and

somewhere the enemy advanced, but they held on, held on and did not fall apart, as perhaps someone in the west expected, perhaps i already expected and was definitely expected in the kremlin, that is why i think that this help is for that reason, at the moment it is different, you rightly said, after the victory the ukrainian society itself will decide in... the legal democratic way prescribed in the constitution and laws of ukraine, let's say yes. and one more a topic that, well, for me it is unambiguous. this is only a question of risks, but ukraine has informed the european institutions that it will further restrict the rights and freedoms of ukrainian citizens, this is the alienation of property, the alienation of the right to private property. and here the question is correct. i understand everything, but it should be, it can be and it should be. but, you know, so that there is no personal question here. revenge, personal interest, corruption component, because i think that not all districts of pechersk, in kyiv, for example, will take a bentley, or some brabus, for the needs of the troops,

or a pajero or a range rover, but i think it will be possible to pick up some chevrolet avieo somewhere in borchagivka. , in order for the military to be stationed there, it is necessary to do some... point, do anything, yes, your warehouse is needed by the military, yes, your products are needed by the military, yes, but so that there is not this component of personal interest, personal profit, or personal revenge for someone, how to monitor it, who is it should do, well, the state should take responsibility and ensure the police, the prosecutor's office, i don't know, the military themselves have to monitor the military leadership there, well , the authorized body, well, in this case , the police, but we... understand that we have justice and law are different things, if for the european mentality, law is higher than justice, because

everyone has their own justice, yes, i think it will be fair to take away the already lousy bentley, yes, than someone will take my opel, but there it is, because he, well, i'm on him i now go on a business trip to the villages and beat him too, yes, but it was so fair for me. and it would be fair for shovoi's son-in-law, well, let them take it from boberenko, let them take it from vasyl zema, and let me keep my bentley, it will be fair, and benti can be taken away, i 'm joking, of course, yes, yes, and micha they take away, yes, which is not there, here, here, for example, to take, is fair, there is a mother whose son is 30 years old, and he went to fight on february 24, she says, an unfair law on mobilization was adopted, why, because there is no norm. about dembel, when my son comes to dembel, and the second mother, who lives next door to this woman, yes, her son is 25 years old, he is now

subject to mobilization, and this mother says: no, it is unfair, let those who know how to fight to fight, he has been fighting for two years, so let him continue to fight, but do not take my son away, because he does not know how to fight, and this is not his war, here are two justices, and a third justice for the one who has armor, another fourth... someone else has, we have a lot of justice, and that is why the state, that is why zelensky must come out and say, it will be fair, and ukrainians in general, as it is written in the norm of the law, so it will be, and that is why kashovy will go to serve there and join the battalion named after koshovy, but i will not excommunicate him, but we know that it will not be like that, what will happen apart from the norms of the law, well, it will be according to the franco principle, yes, everything is to friends, the law is to enemies, that’s what is in our... our state, that is why it is not guaranteed, well, the observance of the law, and to include it, and injustice is created, and

people see this injustice. and therefore to a large extent, well, this state will not be trusted they want, but somehow so, so that law and justice are different things, and i will repeat again that under the current regime , justice in the laws will not be observed, when the laws are implemented, there will be no justice, it will be for each other, as in the ukrainian proverb , the law is as it should be, as you return it. you know, i will ask at the very end, we literally have two, well, three minutes, plus or minus, and the war is going on, a very active phase, and the aid that has been unlocked can and will significantly affect this situation, but beyond all this there are active, going active preparations for this conference or summit, whatever you want to call it, which will take place in a resort town in the middle of the picturesque alps, switzerland, i always forget the name of the resort, where it is supposed to be held, because they say in geneva, it should not be in geneva, it must be

so picturesque. corners of the swiss confederation, and they are actively preparing there, i just have a question, but i have at least some understanding, albeit roughly, and what they are preparing for, because again, behind the smoke and fog of this war, it seems to me that something is generally being decided there, and at a very global level, well , now sidzhen pin will be going, including to france, and maybe some initiatives will take place, which i must mention. yes, this summit will be important for us, because we will once again declare ourselves and our position there, it will again be an information wave in support of ukraine, but in the grand scheme of things it will not end in anything, well, we will say, here are ours there 10 points, our vision of peace, let russia leave crimea, well, russia will say, but we had all this in mind, and that it will be real, it will only shaking of the air, that's what it will be, well, that's it again.

it's a good information wave, but it won't really give anything, but in reality russia doesn't see us as a subject of negotiations at all, and putin will wait for trump to win, and he'll sit down and talk about ukraine for a day from ukraine with trump, and they there something, they are drawing some new borders for themselves, conditionally yes there, well, a new line there, that's what. de facto will become there a demarcation line, a new border between russia and ukraine, and finally these old soviet fighters, even there in my opinion there were su-25 front-line bombers, if i am not mistaken, which ones were bought by the united states in kazakhstan, do you think it was for spare parts, is it possible that a museum will be opened somewhere in denven, no, i think there are 83, it seems that the cars were bought, i hope , that somewhere

30-40-50 of them will be in line yes. well, something will go to spare parts, but something will be in order, so this, well, this is great news, let the russians cry, yes, thank you very much for joining in, thank you for your professional emotional comments, viktor boberenko was with us, political scientist, director of the political analysis storm, well and literally in a moment about the most important news, for this moment i will tell you in detail, good evening, we are with ukraine. well, actually, let's start. the russians shelled kharkiv with guided aerial bombs, the occupiers hit residential buildings. previously, one woman was injured, mayor ihor terekhov said. a high-rise building was partially damaged in the city. in addition, the attackers struck across the region, striking at least five times in the kharkiv district. there were also explosions in odesa. for now, no details. nato can

create a special financial fund support for the defense of ukraine, we are talking about 100 billion euros - said jens stoltenberg during an unannounced visit to kyiv. the general secretary of the alliance also discussed with volodymyr zelensky the situation on the front line and the supply of military equipment. according to the ukrainian leader, stabilization at the front depends on the timely supply of weapons, and ukraine will receive missiles for the petrut systems without delay. the supplies are there, they have gone, little by little , we need to speed up this process, i think we will get this supply and thank god that after the convening of our council we received answers that there will be no pauses in the process regarding additional systems, petra, we are working, there is no such powerful one here yet.