was supported by the president of ukraine , volodymyr zelenskyi, and we are currently thinking about the implementation of this idea, it is already in place, there are certain developments here, i am not ready to specify the possible location, but maybe it sounds like a memorial, so that those who are watching us now... and listens, it will not be so very large-scale, it will be a structure somewhere er, well, the overhangs are 7 m and its diameter with a radius of 5 m, but we are looking for such an embodiment that, well, it would be very, well, let's say accessible for awareness by all people to it reflected the depth of the tragedy that

the crimean tatars experienced, i really hope that in the coming weeks we will decide on the location and the graphic design, young architects worked here, although the basis was taken, the idea, concept and sketches were taken, which at one time were developed by... a famous ukrainian architect, unfortunately, he is already deceased, this is irfan sherfeddinov, this is one of those senior crimean tatar architects, he lived for many years, after the war, he lived in kyiv, he served in the army, was a participant in the second world war, and therefore he was able, well, he avoided deportation, he was not in crimea then in 1944, he was at war, demobilized. and he worked here in kyiv,

all these decades, and there are his wonderful buildings on the territory of kyiv, and his work should be used as a basis for this memorial building, which is now proposed by this group of young architects. well, indeed, the crimean tatars have a very difficult history, in particular from the time of stalin's repressions, and since that time the crimean tatars have continued. fight for your own rights and for the right to self-determination, i know that during the permanent un forum on indigenous peoples, attention was focused on the need to adopt this decision, in particular the right of self-determination of the crimean tatar people rifatag, how do you assess the prospects of this issue now and do you think these international documents of the institution, do they push the ukrainian state to make such a decision? look, everything

that is connected with the development of the ukrainian state, with our future, we, first of all, have to decide for ourselves, but since we are building a truly democratic country, we strive and we do everything to become a full- fledged member of the free family of european nations. and this is written in our constitution, by the way, the constitution of ukraine, regarding membership in the european union, of course, we have and will rely on international norms that determine the main principles and norms, namely the coexistence of independent states. which determine the rights

of peoples, and and and indicate certain forms of realization by them of their right to self-determination, you are right here, during the events that we held within the framework of the permanent forum, the 23rd session of the un permanent forum on the rights of indigenous peoples, we drew attention to the importance of the crimean tatar people realizing their right to self-determination, uh, in an independent ukrainian state, and uh, at the same time, we talked about the need to transform the current autonomous status of crimea, the national territorial one. autonomy based on the right

of the indigenous crimean tatar people to self-determination. we spent several meetings, well, in particular, we held a briefing with the national ones. delegations of the countries of the european union at the organization of the united nations, the delegations of the united states of america, the republic of turkey were also invited there, and we talked in detail there about how the crimean tatars see their place in an independent ukrainian state, we said it is very important that we today talked about the status of crimea, which will definitely be freed from the russian occupiers, that the future of crimea is not separate and equal to the development of its indigenous people, which has be defined as the subject of this autonomy, and

it seems to me that these are the conditions under which crimean autonomy can be transformed, which we have named, and i am repeating them now, crimean autonomy must necessarily ensure the following: the first is the inviolability of the territorial integrity of the ukrainian of the state, so that what happened in 2014 never happens again, this is the most important principle, the ukrainian state is indivisible, and all its territories are integral parts, this is the first condition, the second is what the autonomous... crimea, the status crimea, this is a realization the crimean tatar people of their right to self-determination. this is not the goal, but it is a mechanism, a condition for the crimean tatars, being in a significant numerical

minority on their land, to have legal mechanisms to ensure their preservation and development, and these conditions are... social rights are mechanisms in the world, there are many different forms of autonomy, and the ukrainian state, well, it is able to provide the form that will absolutely correspond to the interests of the entire state as a whole, and will ensure the rights of indigenous of the crimean tatar people, and of course there is another condition that must be met by the crimean autonomy, which we are talking about and... on the implementation of which we are working, that on the territory of the crimean peninsula, of course, the equal rights of citizens and people, of all residents who will live on the territory of the peninsula, these

are the concepts and approaches that we discussed at various events within the framework of the un permanent forum. indigenous peoples, mr. rafate, i hope that will be the case, but now crimea is occupied and the russian occupiers treat the crimean tatar people, well , not in the best way, we even see such attempts to create some special units within the framework of the so-called russian guard, specifically from the crimeans, well, first of all, i understand from the crimean tatars, who are forcibly taken to the russian occupation army, why is this being done, what do the occupiers want to say in this way and how should crimeans act to avoid such a fate? thank you for this question, this is a very important and sensitive situation, you know, it's like when russian troops captured crimea in 2014

year, and in order to convince the world that, as they say, everyone in crimea simply, well, they want... the separation of crimea from ukraine and annexation to russia, moscow was very reluctant to have the crimean tatars, the crimean tatar people, take the same position, that is the mosaic that they then intended and tried to demonstrate to the world, an artificial mosaic, as if the people there wanted to separate from ukraine, they really missed the crimean tatar puzzle, and that's why they... tried to bribe, then blackmail, and then with these repressions, persecutions, they wanted they failed to force us into such a position, now in order to, you know, encourage

the crimean society in order to once again show, first of all, already to the russian society, what they said in the occupied territories of ukraine, in particular in... that is why the local people , they want to defend russian interests, they are now doing everything possible and impossible, so that with pressure and... and money , the so-called crimean unit, and here they really attract people to a special unit, so much attention is paid to attracting crimean tatars there, it is not for them succeeds and fails units of those who broke down and somehow got into that unit will succeed there, but the crimean gauleiters have been given such a task and they will finish it. by all measures and peaces possible for them, and how

to avoid the crimeans, crimean tatars, citizens of ukraine on the territory of the occupied peninsula, this is what the occupiers are doing now, because they plan to do it forcibly, well, there are two options to avoid, or to openly take a position refusal and immediately leave the place, that is, to remain free, because they they will definitely bring it to the so-called court and deprive them of freedom, or leave crimea, and unfortunately, well, this is the mechanism that people choose, well, i would say unfortunately, but it is wrong, i have just spoken, people choose for them the least acceptable option, because the crimean tatars are trying, well , by all means... to move in the occupied crimea, they are simply clinging physically,

so to speak, to their land, but in order to avoid such forced mobilization to the russian army, they are forced to leave crimea, and well, we can't to establish exact statistics, but somewhere from september 2022. when mobilization was announced on the occupied ukrainian lands in crimea, and in a few months, at least 6-7 thousand crimean tatars, and some experts say 10,000 left crimea, they took their families, parents, in order to avoid mobilization , part of these people, they arrived. to mainland ukraine, and we are grateful to those who enlisted in the ranks of the armed forces

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the presence of attackcoms in the armed forces. and recently , a lot of other experts said that... it was on april 17 that the attack of the armed forces of ukraine on the dzhankoya airfield took place using these weapons in these attacks, according to your estimates , or is this really true? well, more likely than not, because according to satellite images that have been published in open sources, already after hitting the woman, it was possible to see. six landing locations in the area of ​​the airfield, and these landing locations were typical for striking with cluster warheads, that is, to say that it was possible to use some other means of impression with a warhead so powerful with such a number of cluster

submunitions, well, we have them there are no such means except exactly one attack with an operational-tactical missile with a cluster-type warhead, according to the modification , most likely block one, and after some time the russians also published in the dzhankou region the booster blocks from the weapon, which were very similar to the booster blocks that are used by attack missiles. and therefore from this we draw the appropriate conclusion, hmm, yes, indeed, these were atakans, besides , the ukrainian gurymos published videos of launches that took place precisely on dzhanka, and in principle it is possible to verify, draw a conclusion, even though it happened at night, even though no one sees that the launcher

can't even be installed there, even what the rocket looks like, but in general, by nature... we at times it is possible to recognize that it is an operational-tactical missile of the ataka type. well, not the only missiles, another military expert svitan roman, colonel of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, analyzed the british military aid package for ukraine and saw boats there, which, in his opinion, can be used not only for forcing the dnieper, but also for landing landings in the crimea, that is. that these boats can reach the coast of crimea, is such an amphibious operation really possible with this military assistance? reach the crimea, they really do they can, it's quite possible, but an amphibious operation is not, although what exactly is an amphibious

operation? if we are talking about some large-scale amphibious operation with the occupation of a bridgehead and so on and so on? then no, because it will actually be suicide, er, without logistics, the appropriate landing party will not be able to hold out there for a long time, especially taking into account the fact that almost the entire complex of the so -called defense group of forces of the crimea will be used against it, and this is exactly there will be a suicide mission, but there are other landings, there are landings of the type... on a level on a level sabotage and reconnaissance activities of the drg, a small number is landed. a small number of units and accordingly perform one or another combat task, it is precisely for such missions that these

boats can also be used. and mr. oleksandr, what about this question, you said about the drg, but lately we see such partisan movements in various telegram channels, for example, like atesh, who has his own telegram channel and they always publish there. the advancement of the russian military, and their equipment, and so on. do you think we can fully trust this such a partisan movement on the territory of the occupied peninsula, for example, could it not be some project of the fsb, or perhaps, on the contrary, it then supports the armed forces of ukraine, which can, for example, carry out some operation there or a ground operation on the temporarily occupied crimea. i will say this, in those territories, in the temporarily occupied territories not only of crimea, but also of kherson oblast, zaporizhzhya, even donetsk and luhansk oblasts, there continue to be

patriotic ukrainians who are waiting for the return of these territories to ukraine, and they help as much as they can, first of all, of course, they provide information accordingly, this does not mean that there is an administration, a moderator on the crimean peninsula itself. er of this channel, they can be located in the free part of ukraine, but receive relevant photo or video information from their sources on the peninsula. it is quite possible that they work according to such a scheme, but the analysis, most importantly , the analysis can be done according to the information that is published, how reliable it is, if it is really reliable and it is confirmed, and therefore there are such publications that speak of the usefulness of these materials for their use by the power structures of ukraine, but in any case everything needs analysis and

verification of one or another information, why exactly, there may indeed be cases when russian special services create fictitious, pro-ukrainian platforms, and with one or another purpose. there may be completely different tasks, but even if we are talking about the informational component, materials of this nature can be taught accordingly informing about the movements of certain units, including russian ones, and they will inspire confidence, at some point material will be presented that is not true at all, but the reaction to this material, respectively, or the defense forces of ukraine, or some... other resources, sources people, and will be the main task of this material, i.e. detection or provocation, or manipulation, anything, and therefore

one should be careful with any information, but there is another nuance here, even pro-ukrainian patriotic channels, when they publish information, they can sometimes be wrong in some, let's say, narrowly specialized issues. and make a mistake in something, or due to the fact that there is a misunderstanding of some situation or some object or some other, well, let's say, even a technical component, and they can provide incorrect information, incorrect information directly at the site, that's why all this it is necessary in any case to analyze what i am talking about, even with... the pro-ukrainian media, which writes exclusively pro-ukrainian, takes such a position, and this true, this is not some kind of manipulation, but even this information should

cause every reader to check critical thinking, because it is characteristic of everyone to make mistakes sometimes, even if you have only one mistake out of 100 messages, it is still a merit . these days, we remember how more than 100 years ago , colonel petro bolobchan entered the crimea with the army of the ukrainian people's council and liberated it from the bolsheviks, and the crimeans met the ukrainian army with flowers, portraits of taras hryhorovych shevchenko and took to the streets, therefore, there is no doubt that there are pro-ukrainian crimeans who are waiting for the ukrainian army, we have already seen it in history, we will see it again, i hope, and if we talk about the fact that crimea is not such an impregnable

fortress after all . that the ukrainian army has already liberated crimea in its history, we can be sure that it will happen again, but then there was no crimean bridge, so the importance of the kerch bridge for the supply of weapons and manpower from russia cannot be underestimated, what will happen to the bridge, we expect that it will still be destroyed by these missile attacks, but for some reason this is not happening, what moment... is the armed forces of ukraine waiting for? the most favorable, i think that’s right, the formation of conditions, and we started the conversation with you precisely at the dzhankoya airfield, where the division of the 18th anti-missile regiment, the same 18th zrp, which in 2014 switched sides, was destroyed russian invaders, that is , the first division of traitors was destroyed, retaliation

began. but there is another nuance: the fact is that the launchers of precisely such objects, which are armed with s-400 missiles, and their, well, where this is feodosia, this is yevpatoria, this is sevastopol, this is mr. khankut, again, these are all the same divisions of the 18th zerp, two divisions of the 12th zrp, by the way, they are also traitors. and the third radio engineering regiment, as well as where its components are deployed on cape tarkhankut, so all this, what are all these means that pose a threat to the air component of striking the kershchyna bridge, as soon as these components cease to be combat-capable, the airspace of crimea will not ...

will not be covered by s-400 s-300 long-range complexes, it is open the corresponding paths to the kerch bridge of one or another nomenclature of impressions, and we saw that it was the dzhankoy airfield where the attack was carried out using at least six missiles, well, because the video that was shown, we saw six missiles being launched, and... . according to satellite images, we saw six arrivals at the airfield, so six out of six, we draw the appropriate conclusions that in order to finish off all the other locations where the russian s-400 air defense systems are located, we need about 30 missiles, at least atakams, and then we can already talk about the fact that such an illegal construction as the kerch bridge

deserves... well, legal destruction, mr. alexander, do you remember that some time ago the american military and ex-officer of the american army ben hodges wrote that after the supply of long-range weapons to ukraine and the destruction of this logistical artery of the russian federation and the city of kerch and the destruction of russian military facilities on the territory of the temporarily occupied peninsula. can happen very quickly and even deoccupation of the peninsula may happen earlier than the deoccupation of donetsk and luhansk regions. how do you assess such a statement, is it really so, is it really true that the de-occupation of the peninsula with the supply and availability of these long-range weapons, the cutting of the russian military artery, and so on, may well happen much earlier than donbas,

for example. so earlier than donetsk-luhansk oblast, but not earlier than zaporizhzhia or left bank-kherson oblast. ugh. that is, crimea, it will be somewhere in the middle, between the liberation of these territories. and in principle, yes because the kershchen bridge is actually the main logistical artery, which provides all the necessary volume of material and technical support to three groups at once. of troops in the south of ukraine, this is a group of troops, the defense of crimea, this is a group of troops of the dnipro, left bank kherson region, partly zaporizhia region, and this is a group of troops east, partial donetsk region, southern donetsk region, as well as zaporizhia region, this is almost 200,000 personnel, this. ..