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russia and iran, then there are the main ones, the main volume is weapons, or military equipment or armored vehicles, i am not talking about the fact that , pay attention, russia's contracts with india are actually blocked, russia's contracts with brazil are blocked for the supply of weapons , equipment, ammunition and so on, that is, in fact, we are talking about the fact that a certain naturalization is taking place there. in this, in this triangle, so they will all build up arms, and this applies not only to conventional arms, china has made a decision to achieve parity from the point of view of nuclear arms, and there gap of almost 2.5 thousand units of nuclear warheads, then you need to understand what parity is, it is obvious that they calculate this parity based on the total number of three warheads and so on, from here it is obvious that... the phenomenon that pistorius is talking about is
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present, but if you look at the technological level of this, then it will clearly lose to the united states of america and allies, including nato countries. the only thing that attracts attention is that, including in the conversation in beijing, there was a very emotional and vivid appeal by the american side to the fact that china distributes the highest. technologies, destroying the security of the european union, the eurasian continent, including. actually, this hints at the fact that those technologies that get to china through american developers and manufacturers in the form of transnational corporations, they then migrate to russia, and this is actually the reason that allows russia to periodically parasitize the world market. technologies and
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produce modern weapons, if this channel can be closed, and from what happened with the exchange of views between blinken, sydzenpinny and blinken and wang yi, the talks were very heated, the working commission at the level of the military leadership and the ministry of trade and finance continues its work, well, to say that the chinese will go to this with an open mind, well... it's fooling yourself, but what they will have to take some steps, including limiting financing and lending to russia's military-industrial complex, and at the very least suspend the export there of technologies and certain components above modern ones developed by the united states of america. it is obvious to roman petrovich that blinken's visit to beijing, and in general all the communication...
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now takes place between the united states of america and china, one way or another, despite all their internal, let's say, commercial issues and political issues, nevertheless, one way or another, they are directed to the global peace summit, which will be held in switzerland in june, and we know that xi jinping is flying to france in may, there will be the anniversary date of 60 years of diplomatic relations. france and beijing, in china, is meant, and it is clear that everyone is trying in some way to conduct a dialogue with china and to convince everyone that to be friends with putin through military means, it is not very convenient for him and for his economy, or let's say, it can even have negative consequences, zelensky says that the world community, which will gather at the global self.
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of peace in switzerland should force the russian federation to peace, this path can begin precisely at this summit. let's listen to what zelensky said. we continue to prepare for june, the first inaugural peace summit, and our team is now working together with the teams of key partners to make the summit a reality global, we can definitely say, all continents. will be presented, the world majority must force russia to make peace and can do it, it is in june that the path to a just peace can begin. roman petrovych, the president of ukraine has a lot of hopes for the peace summit, but it is obvious that in the current situation we are talking about a discussion of some concept of future peace, not even a discussion exclusively of zelenskyi's peace formula. because the question is much broader than
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zelenskyi's formula, what ukraine can gain as a result of this summit, which it can have name this summit for the russian-ukrainian war and will it have such consequences in some short-term perspective, because it is obviously about strategy about next year or about the 26th? well, from my point of view, i would not expect any changes here, the maximum that would be rational from my point of view is to reach an agreed text that would speak about the position of the majority. the world from the point of view of, let's say, solving the problem, and this relates to why i phrased it that way, because in fact, if we talk about the global peace summit, then in conditions where
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to date , the russian-ukrainian, iranian-israeli war is going on, to package it only with the problem of, let's say, victory over racism, well, this... clearly does not correspond to the scope and content of the document and the scope of this forum, because when it is called a global peace forum, that is, well, according to me, it should have been a question about a new order in the world, new institutions, a new order, and so on. if it is possible to come out in this dialogue, let's say, on a text that concerns the position of the world, the dominant number of countries, regarding russia-ukraine. war i will be very happy about that, and if god willing, it will be possible to come up with a certain blueprint, a certain scheme of the post-war arrangement of the world, that is, what we call the new world order, order, well, it will generally be a shot in
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the top ten, or at least in speeches it will sound that this is one of the samins, by the way, i really liked the phrase... the president, i somehow missed it, that this is the inaugural one, that is, this is the first, but if this work continues and it is possible to get out in the end on some configuration of the world order, and it will become a global summit of measure will turn into a kind of forum that will be constantly active, and why not, because any such things are big, they started from small, from small. meetings on small agreements, contracts and so on, but mr. serhiy, i am very worried about this, well, discrepancy, if the scale of the form and content of what is being discussed, well, i understand how it is treated in diplomatic circles, because such a the forum is
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not a duel of sabers or swordsmen and so on, it is work with a certain document, and from here it is clear that... and in this regard , china will start to turn its nose, well, china will be followed by a lot of countries of the so -called global south, so i would not expect any breakthrough, breakthrough solution there, but what concerns here is a text that would make it possible to determine the position of the world once again, which is already clear, and here it is also very important that this position is directed against russia. for the world to tell russia that you are the führer, such a scoundrel, you are ruining people's lives in ukraine and the whole world, so we will do everything, to put you in a cage and drive you around the world like an owl, to show what an idiot you are. roman petrovych, another fairly relevant
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topic, and it is probably a topic that will in one way or another affect our path to the european union, and in general on... with our western partners, is ukraine's position on consular issues for conscripts, who are abroad, for men from 16 to 60 years old, the decision to stop providing them with consular services, a big debate within the state, fair, unfair, abroad, of course, most of those who found themselves without documents or, say, wanted to reshape documents or. some notarial contracts or agreements cannot do this either, if we move away from the question of fair , fair and unfair, convenient and inconvenient, right or wrong, but if we talk about the letter of the law and about compliance with this law, and for
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stability, the most important law of our constitution , is this decision correct, mr. serhiu, the point is that what is constitutional and legal is also just, and as for this letter, signed by the first deputy minister of foreign... affairs, from all points of view this letter does not comply with the norms of international law and the general declaration of human rights and the european declaration of human rights. further , he violates article 25 of the constitution of ukraine, he violates a whole set of legislation that regulates both diplomatic relations and issues of the diplomatic service, including the presidential decree. about the consular service, that is , actually from the point of view of legal culture,
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and what happened, the consular employee services put before the choice to implement the law or to implement the letter of the first deputy, you, well, we just have to understand her to what extent this indicates incompetence, that is, unprofessionalism, legal lack of culture and... er, from my point of view, er, er, there is many ways, i tell you, as a former ambassador, in the building where the consulate was, and we constantly discussed similar, similar issues with the consul, such things are unacceptable, why, i will explain: consulates, diplomatic missions, they are obliged to take care of citizens of ukraine, and there are such things, even when there are no forms, there are documents and so on, because we are talking not only about passports but death certificates, but metrics,
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birth certificates, marriage certificates, lost documents and so on, well , the one who did this step or, first of all, i am 100% convinced that no one in the ministry of foreign affairs could have thought of such a step , because it boils down to the fact, these people, they go abroad with a deep conviction that they will help . to the ukrainians, you understand what happened, the ukrainians did not contact anyway with consulates due to the post-soviet post-totalitarian practice that has developed, this complex of decisions that have been taken in recent months, instead of solving an urgent problem, and consulates, diplomatic missions are put in a situation where they are fenced off from the citizens of ukraine, the reaction will be different. .. side exactly like this. and it should be understood that a citizen
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who does not have the opportunity to issue documents has many ways to move forward. i, when this story began, these days, serge alfary's anniversary was celebrated. and there in description, his biography, his history, his work in paris, such an example was given. the french came to him with an offer to obtain french citizenship, to which he said: "i want to be a citizen of ukraine," but he lived there all his life as a stateless person. it is necessary to understand that a stateless person, a bipatriate, a monopatriate and so on, they have absolutely equal status, they are no different, i just want our political leadership to stop doing it. nonsense, because we just do with of a huge cohort of people, that is, people who will be
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stateless, it is necessary to understand that they will not lose anything, they, they will not lose personally, but the homeland will turn its back on them, the point is that remember, with whom, with what position when the current president volodymyr zelenskyi came to power, he spoke about the need to return, and today it is necessary to... talk about it, work on it, work on it, work with the consulates , explain how to work with the people who work there , you know, i would more recommended to open the regulatory framework and read what obligations consulates, diplomatic missions have, how they are obliged to take care of people, even those people who are imprisoned abroad, i am not talking about adopted children or families or . refugees and so on, this situation infuriates me when i see that ah, well, well,
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well, well, well, it is definitely not from the ministry of foreign affairs that such impulses come, because people there understand very well , how the consulate works, and not only from the point of view legislation, as well as from the point of view of everyday dialogue with citizens of ukraine abroad, that is why it is unpleasant for me, to be honest, to hear about such illogical decisions that are related to the functions of diplomatic representatives or consulates, it harms the work of these institutions , it hurts the job, it hurts the image. of ukraine in the end. thank you roman petrovych for the conversation. it was roman bezsmertny, politician, diplomat, former ambassador of ukraine to the republic of belarus. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and facebook, for those who are currently watching us live there. please subscribe to our pages on these platforms and take part in our survey. today we ask you
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you will allow, perhaps, at first, as it happened, that i've been connected long enough to... do you want to answer a question that we ask our viewer, a very respected previous guest, because frankly, what i 've been listening to just doesn't fit in my ears, and i still would like our audience to hear an alternative point of view, please speak if, unless you don't mind, please, i don't mind, mr. yevgeny, speak, yes, the point is that, well, let 's start with a question that do you somehow bet to the audience, do they think they are justified? restriction of rights and freedoms during war, well , first of all, it is a bit funny to ask people whether the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, but this is roughly from that series, that the restriction of human rights and freedoms during war is not just justified , and not fleeting and necessary, it is actually a norm of international law, even the european convention on human rights, actually
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one of the most complete documents, which, well, it is probably one of the most profound documents based precisely... on the priority of the person, not the state, but even this document contains that a special provision just in case of war and emergency situations, that is, i would put the question completely differently, that is, let someone who believes that restrictions on human rights and freedom during war are not justified, let the person say whether he really believes that there is a chance to win a war without any restrictions on rights and freedoms, i want to look at... a person who is ready to prove that it is really possible to win a war, while completely remaining, with all that, actually a very large package of rights and freedoms, which in the 21st century has become normal in normal countries for all of us, moreover, there is another side here, in general, well, it is very obvious what
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is actually happening, for example, in our case, there are not two countries fighting in us with the same... attitude towards human rights and freedoms , we are fighting on the one hand a country that does not recognize any rights and any freedoms at all, and on the other hand, a country that in peacetime is actually one of the most progressive in the world in terms of the package of rights and freedoms, but risks all these rights and freedoms , all lose the entire package in case of losing the war. therefore, the question is really very important simple: are we, ukrainians, ready to temporarily give up some part of our rights and freedom during hostilities, in order to keep them all for ourselves and our children, or do we prefer to cling to each individual right and every single freedom until losing the war, and as a result being
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occupied by a country that does not recognize rights and freedoms at all and losing them all completely. and for myself and for my children and grandchildren forever. so you have to ask questions honestly. perhaps there is someone who is really ready, but for the sake of living the last months with all, all, all rights and freedoms without any restrictions, then lose them all and forever. well, maybe someone is so ready, but people should clearly understand that it is about such a choice. or we temporarily voluntarily give up some part. rights and freedoms, or we lose them all and forever, and not only for ourselves, but for future generations, this is about the fundamental question, but i would also like to refocus what... in fact , a very respected previous guest of mine said , well, to be honest, with everything personal to him my respect, but what i heard now, well, it's
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actually, as you say, formally everything is correct, but in essence it's completely crooked, but the fact is that i will not now formally cling to all the nuances related there with the consular service there, who is there? to whom should the order be issued, that is not the point, let's look fundamentally at what our ministry of foreign affairs is doing now, it is doing, maybe even a little unscrupulously, it is doing it with certain formal violations, in fact they are really there, it is obvious, but what is it in principle does, he restores the foundations of the constitutional system and the basis of the social contract, our foreign ministry is now reminding ukrainians abroad. this is what they should have known themselves from the first grade of high school, no later than that, and this is exactly what there is
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such a concept as the institution of citizenship, it is a certain type of relationship between a person and the state, and this the type of relationship, the institution of citizenship, it assumes that the status of a citizen is a certain package of rights, a certain package of state services. which a citizen can use, but it is also a certain package of duties which this citizen bears in relation to the state, and that these things are absolutely inseparable from each other, they are not interchangeable, on the contrary, there is an absolutely clear logical connection here: you have your rights and freedoms, you have the use of state services, so you must fulfill your constitutional duties, and on the contrary, you... fulfill your constitutional duties, and therefore you can demand certain services and certain rights and freedoms from the state, and this all comes
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in a package, you can't do it like that, unfortunately , many ukrainians on both sides believe thousands, it's just that the ministry of foreign affairs deals with those on the other side of the country, and those on this side, relatively speaking, the ministry of internal affairs, but in fact, on both sides of the country, where many millions of ukraine came from. who are absolutely sincerely convinced that these things are not connected, that you can have all the rights and freedoms of a citizen, you can use all the services of the state, but at the same time not perform or recognize any obligations, and this is what he is doing now mfa, it is to those ukrainians that the other side of the yew tree reminds them of the elementary foundations of the social contract, which is rights, there are duties and vice versa, but... one without the other simply does not work, so let's remind who we are actually talking about, yes, first of all, let's remind that we actually demand from these ukrainians, they demand everything from them only
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to stop committing a protracted offense, i will remind you that they are required simply to be on the military register, no more than that, to be on the military register in general is their duty all this time, this duty has not been removed anywhere. and when crossing the yew, this duty is also not nullified, does not disappear, but there is no way, don't say no until you got caught, so when you even got caught, it doesn't matter, legally, illegally, most left legally, so when you leave zachok, maybe it will be a surprise for someone, but your responsibilities leave with you, so long as you have there is a blue passport with a trident in your pocket, but you carry all your responsibilities with this passport. accordingly, their rights, accordingly, and services, if those ukrainians who are on this side use such services of the state as roads, schools, hospitals,
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whatever, they may not like them, just like these the services work, well, excuse me, how you and i built them, that’s exactly how they work, they didn’t fall to us from abroad, but in any case, everyone uses them, and those ukrainians who go abroad, they use the services of consulates, and excuse me, when they get there in... then the consul, and they get up in the middle of the night, he goes to get them out of the local butchery, to derail various situations, because he is a citizen, he has the right to protect his state, yes, but it automatically follows that and at the same time, the duties of the citizen also remain, but for some reason it turned out that a lot of ukrainians believe that this is not the case, that the state is to blame for them, and they do not owe anything to anyone and have no obligations, but the ministry of foreign affairs, as it managed, maybe a little bit of firewood. but simply reminded them of these fundamentals of the constitutional system, and if someone does not like this social contract, i do not know of a single case
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of someone refusing it. citizenship of ukraine, and he, his strength of power in this citizenship held, without problems, you write a statement, make this same blue trident passport, and you nullify all your obligations, but accordingly , the state's obligations towards you are also nullified, so it's just like two times two, and here are any distortions on the topic, which is what struck me by the previous speaker, that he sincerely believes that the state should continue to fulfill all its duties and provide... services to people who defiantly refuse to fulfill their constitutional duties. in this situation, i believe that the ministry of foreign affairs, regardless of whether it is correct in form, according to some dot in the law, it deeply right in essence, there are rights, there are duties and vice versa. and there is, there is a constitution, after all, this too, and it is article 63, and the constitution prescribes the rights and duties of citizens, but also the constitution
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and... citizens, including consular protection and consular services, well, that is, here from which side to look at the basic law, do you understand? no, this is how both sides should work, but the basic law, which is looked at only from one side, stops working, yes, thank you, mr. yevgeny, i heard your opinion about our survey and about what was said roman bezsmertny, one of the co-authors, among other things, of the constitution of ukraine, in 1996, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, meanwhile, says that the situation at the front is escalating, having a significant advantage in forces and means, as sirskyi says, the enemy is actively attacks on all front lines, has tactical successes in some directions. the most difficult situation is in the pokrovsky and kurakhiv directions, where fierce battles continue, the enemy has deployed up to four brigades in these directions and is trying
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to develop an offensive. west of davdiivka and mariyanka, trying to reach pokrovsk and kurakhiv, units of the defense forces of ukraine, preserving the lives and health of our defenders, moved to new lines, west of berdychiv, semenivka and novomykhaivka, in general, in these directions the enemy achieved certain tactical successes, but did not gain operational advantages could. mr. yevgeny, considering the fact that the russians were obviously waiting for how this whole story would end with... providing us with military aid , they tried to speed it up themselves, now in the current situation, what are they able to do in prospects there until june or until the end of june, as predicted by general budanov, that is, how are they managing and are they now managing to take advantage of this pause that we had with military aid? well, of course, they succeed, but this is not the only thing that helps them move
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forward and win. let's be honest, all this time we have had two critical problems, a shortage of ammunition caused by trump and the trumpists blocking us aid, and a shortage of personnel, in other words, a banal lack of enough people at the front, and if the question of ammunition, yes, after seven months of a terrible pause for us, but still, this question is now resolved, the ammunition is already on the way to arrive, then the question... the people did not get any better, if, actually, what were the two advantages the russians, two advantages of the russians, because of which we lost avdiivka and many other things, literally, to be honest, i am a little confused by these euphemisms, these formulations that are used in our official communication, this question is not for syrskyi personally, for him was exactly the same, until things, when you read this
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official... wording that while saving life and health, blah blah blah, left to the west, berdych, novomykhaivka, so, excuse me, call a spade a spade, we surrendered berdachi, we surrendered novomykhaivka, and a lot more, we surrendered ocheretyn, and this is only in the last days, you understand, that is, we surrender village after village, the front bends, the front line is gradually approaching us and you here, so, why is this actually happens, because the russians had two pere. artillery advantage in they had on average along the front, that is somewhere one of our projectiles against 10 of theirs, in those areas where they attack most intensively, it is one of our projectiles against 20 of theirs, and the second advantage they had was that , which in terms of personnel, somewhere one to seven, one to 10, that is, translating into human language, so that you and i can now communicate in this ether, each of our...

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