nato can open a protective umbrella over western ukraine, according to him, for this it is necessary to overcome the resistance of nato partners, but such decisions can be made in the summer. now it is possible and necessary to do so that missiles that can violate the airspace of poland can be shot down by the polish air defense system from the territory of our country. however , this will require the polish side to have full situational awareness of ukraine's airspace, that is , information from ukraine. radars, other means, which the polish side currently does there is no mr. mayor, well, they see, the poles, in particular, see these missiles flying towards western ukraine and track them, because their planes in the sky monitor this situation, that is why janusz onyszkiewicz says in your opinion that they need more information, they, as i understand it, are in complete control of the situation during the shelling of ukraine. of course we exchange. formation with our countries,

partners, allies who join in supporting our state in the fight against russian aggression, and of course we provide the necessary data for our colleagues, why he that's how he answered, this is already a question directly to the polish high-ranking official, but of course this help, it would be able to make our breathing a little easier, we could more freely move the systems that are currently located in the west of our country. not to cover front-line cities, other critical energy facilities, yes, which need this protection, technically it could be done, and we saw that the poles yes, they have various systems in their arsenal, medium, long range, yes , which could cover our airspace, well, but this we already have more questions. certain problems with

communication, it was ilya yevlash, spokesman for the air force of the armed forces of ukraine, unfortunately, we have lost contact with our spokesman now, well, i hope we will restore it, there is time, let me remind you that just a few days ago , ilya yevlash stated that the f-16 could arrive in ukraine after easter, however, he did not specify when exactly, after... easter, well, not the next day, in short, we are waiting for the inclusion of ilya yevlash, if there is inclusion, we will of course ask him about it, but in the meantime i want to remind you what we are conducting survey and we are asking you, friends, about such a thing today, whether artificial intelligence is needed in government communications, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, you vote either with the yes or no button, or write your comment under this video, well, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone. or phones and

vote, if you think that artificial intelligence is needed in the government's communications with ukrainians, then 0.800-211-381, no 0800 211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote, well, we have not restored contact with ilya yevlash, that's why we we thank him for participating in the program, we are in touch with oleg rybachuk, head of... the center for joint actions, former prime minister, vice prime minister for european integration and former head of yushchenko's presidential office, mr. oleg , i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, congratulations, i am glad to be in this studio again, thank you, mr. oleg, let's start with david cameron, who visited kyiv yesterday and announced that his country has given ukraine permission to strikes... weapons on the territory of russia, and also

promised to continue the annual military aid to ukraine. let's listen to what the head of the british foreign ministry, who is in the ukrainian capital, said. russia attacked ukraine, and ukraine has every right to retaliate. with russia striking ukraine, it's understandable why ukraine feels the need to make sure it can defend itself. we will provide £3 billion every year, as much as is needed. we just exhausted everything we could in terms of providing equipment. some of this actually arrives in ukraine today, while i'm here. so, mr. olezh, does this mean that there is already a consensus among the western partners that their weapons will fly in the direction of the russian federation? yes, but not with everyone . partners, but the number of such countries

is growing, and these are not the last countries on the european continent. i just read today, watched the news several times about the fact that the big... britain in general offers to sign an agreement with ukraine for 100 years, for 100 on cooperation in all possible types of state activities, and this means that putin is receiving a very clear signal , and this one the signal is being repeated by the most influential countries that you don't care about putin, ukraine is not yours, and it won't be yours, and therefore ukraine has no chance of winning. not a single large ukrainian city is connected, and they did not capture there, the tape is running that they russians cannot take it now without the whole west being gone, because when the west gathers, russia simply does not have enough, i saw in the news, you have no large ukrainian city, so

talking about the country is just a dream of a bunker dwarf, and the world is very clearly talking about it, mr. oleg, about this century-old agreement, this agreement will be called the hundred-year partnership, or about the hundred-year partnership, as david cameron said, but we know that great britain was also a participant in the budapest memorandum, there they were, well, they were guarantors, and here the question is that if after 30 years they do not were you able to bring russia to mind after 20 years from 2014, which is also... the guarantor of this budapest memorandum, where is the guarantee that great britain will be friends and help ukraine for the next 100 years? of course, there is more symbolism here, but important symbolism for ukraine, as well as, among other things, in the position of macron and france, that is, these

european countries are beginning to push back the horizon of the future, to plan the horizon of the future, in which ukraine is definitely, well , it is obvious that you and i... it is not that 100 years, we cannot think a year, but when political initiatives appear in the world that want to model the possibility of partnership for many, many years, great britain, it has a certain tradition there, already a monarchical tradition, and they have a foreign office, the ministry of foreign affairs, foreign relations, this is not our mykhailivska, no one supervises them there from the royal palace, there... they are very independent, very experienced, based on a centuries-old history, and such initiatives are important for us, and for us especially it is important that there is no question that ukraine will remain out of the spotlight, it is obvious that putin is trying as much as possible to somehow separate this alliance, this

union, he is trying to convince the world that why don't you waste all your energy, why do you need this ukraine waste weapons if they are not can win the war, but ... such initiatives send a completely different signal that ukraine will also have weapons and will have allies, but one more thing, and that moment you talked about, after the second world war, the west, well he really imagined that everything, the worst times behind the war will no longer be there, there will be no more war on the european continent, as they say figuratively, the west lived on dividends after the victory in the second world war, and then after the victory in the cold war, but now such a difficult realization has come, and macron is frank about it says, the realization that europe, which seemed to just live endlessly and bathe in this peaceful world, it can

be destroyed, there is a real threat of military destruction such as in ukraine, and therefore they came to the conclusion that it is better to stop russia in ukraine, and not... to try to give putin the opportunity to go further, and this is very felt, here is what cameron said, he is not the only one who says that some countries of the west do not object to ukraine using their weapons on the territory russia, because the newly appointed minister of foreign affairs of latvia, baiba braja, also stated this in an interview with european truth, she said this, let's listen. but there are already countries that have already provided weapons to ukraine without such restrictions, really? absolutely. of course, not everything is announced publicly, and it is even better not to say it out loud until a certain time. the main thing is influence on the battlefield, because here there is a choice, whether to speak loudly about something, or

simply do what is necessary. putin's press secretary, piskov, said that the kremlin is concerned and considers not... safe and such that incite tension in the latest statement by the president of france and the head of the foreign ministry of great britain, regarding the possible presence of western troops in ukraine and strikes by british weapons on the territory of the russian federation. mr. oleg, what do you think, well, the kremlin is afraid that british stormshadow missiles will fly or other countries will fly towards moscow, towards other russian cities or military facilities located near these cities, or they all - they still hope that due to the fact that they have nuclear weapons, they can to threaten and say that, well... now the time of judgment has come, as medvedev said, and now we will hit the western capitals, but

macron answered this threat very clearly, he said that he has nuclear weapons and the most advanced , much more effective than the russian one, and not only that, france took the initiative to make such a nuclear umbrella for the whole of europe, if we remember that poland turned to the united states with a proposal... to plant nuclear weapons on its territory, then we see that in response endless rattling of nuclear weapons in sight, already finally, in the west they begin to say that nuclear weapons are a double-edged sword, that is , it is sharpened on both sides, and if it was not a plague before, now it is becoming a reality, because nuclear weapons were not invented at all to not... to threaten and attack, it is used so that those countries that have

nuclear weapons can defend themselves, that is, it is a weapon that is not for attack, but for defense, and putin first began to use it as a threat of attack, and he receives a corresponding reaction, because in fact there are tactical nuclear ones strikes achieve little, what russia, for example, does to ukrainian towns like bakhmut or avdiyivka, or... some other places, where they simply completely destroy the city, well, it is the same as what happened there in kherasim after nuclear weapons, that is , the destruction is the same, but when the west started talking about the fact, and it should have been done earlier, that nuclear weapons are not only in russia, then to your question, are they afraid, i am sure that they are afraid, they are most afraid of , that the west will stop being afraid of them, mr. oleg, it is clear that in the current situation, when... and macron is talking about nuclear weapons, and putin is talking about nuclear weapons, everyone is waiting to see what

xi jinping will say about nuclear weapons, because xi jinping is going to come to paris to celebrate the 60th anniversary of diplomatic relations between china and france, and that will happen in may, but we we see how macron, scholz, and blinken are trying to convince the leader of china to support civilization, civilizations. the world and ukraine, and the same kirby, the adviser of the white house says that so far they do not see that china is ready to support the ukrainian peace formula and participate in the peace summit in switzerland. kirbyk says: "we would welcome the participation of china, or any other country that wants to join, that takes into account and respects president zelensky's 10-point plan. but i would be wrong to say that we really see." we have not seen this in china in this direction, as far as you think, mr.

oleg, this is china's participation, even if china, conditionally speaking, will again advance its 12 points there, which they formulated back in february of 2023, and they believed that these are some of their peace initiatives, if, if they are not even will promote this position, as far as the very presence... of a representative of china at this global peace summit, which will be held on june 16-17 in switzerland, how much will it add to the status of this forum, and is it said that the presence of china will in a certain way give a signal there to the countries of the global south, on which beijing traditionally has influence. well, that will be it, this intrigue will last until the last moment, but it was inherent for china, after all, to be present at this forum not at the highest level, because we have already

heard that china is making its anti-maidan, china wants to hold its own forum with the participation of all parties, where russia will be there and for some reason ukraine will be there, maybe medvedchuk will represent ukraine, because the best relations with china were during the presidency of yanukovych, yanukovych spent three days there and the most contracts were signed, this speaks of what... what order of politics and politicians are interesting to china and with whom china would be ready to be friends, so here we should have no doubt that china will to the last... be a supporter of the fact that the countries to which it goes this is conventionally the axis of evil, there is russia, china, the north korea, iran, these autocratic, not even just cars, but dictatorial countries, well, at the level of terrorist countries, so that they set the tone in the world, china will try to do everything possible to ensure that the current world

order, dominated by the united states, the european union , so that this order will change, but it is also very bad in china. stubble never burn bridges. china, sisin ping will now make a tour. in general, china believes that in general there is china and the united states in the world. well, they remember, siznpints said that the world is for two countries are enough, for two, for three, there is no room for russia. and that's why china wants to revive relations somehow. for him, even the european union is a type of vassal. the united states, and they are meeting with france, because france has certain anti-american sentiments there, it has such a special position, and china wants it, and plus macron was there in china, they met there for three days, economic. china is simply looking for options where it can influence world events much more seriously, and that is why it

is building these relations, but i repeat, for it is very natural not to be in china. on the side of ukraine, not to want a victory for ukraine, because a victory for ukraine is a victory for the western world, it is a victory for nato, it is a victory for the united states, and china would like the united states, and nato, and the europeans to be defeated. mr. oleg, you, as a person who knew very well how this kremlin machine functions and how this machine actually coexists there. in which many operators sit, or people who believe that they are leading russia forward there. what can you say about the information of american of the institute for the study of war, which believes that putin can punish shuigu for not fulfilling the kremlin's military goals, and this is the conclusion drawn by experts from the meeting of the president of the russian federation with the governor of the tutsk region oleksiy dyumin, who is associated with the

wagner pkk. according to analysts, this may indicate putin's desire to reduce. dushaiga and balance him with competitors, well, we know that just a few days ago the deputy minister of defense of the russian federation timur ivanov was detained on suspicion of receiving a bribe, part six article 290 of the criminal code, and in general , timur ivanov is a billionaire in russia, who obviously worked in the interests of shaygu, as well. how important in... the current configuration is shaigu for putin, and can we hope that these skirmishes between different towers of the kremlin can lead to the weakening of power in russia, and accordingly, it will give ukraine some chance during the war? well, with regard to the chance during the war

, it is more difficult to say, but i am sure of the inevitability of such steps. first of all, russia formally has a constitution, after the next term of the re-elected president, the entire government formally submits a request for resignation to this president, that is, the entire government will resign, it should be noted that dyumin is a person who has been the main leader for a long time putin's personal bodyguard, then he fell a little out of favor, then he was sent to the governorship. but when they analyze the situation with ivanov, they say that in fact, the alliance between shoigu and ivanov really created a projectile famine for the group wagner, well, i don’t know whether putin knew about it or not , but

there has been an active opposition of various interested parties against shoigu for a long time, and according to one of the western versions... putin realized that actually prigoshyn, who was his a long-time loyalist there, there an associate, prigozhin was simply provoked by the fact that he was not given weapons, and prigozhin decided that this was happening with putin's blessing, and putin allegedly did not know, no matter how there was an option to replace shoigu, because soyga, soyga , soigu, except for a personal one there devotion and vacations there na na na... in the far north, i don't know how he is different there, but the character of shoigu already causes such an allergy in many politicians due to his influence. business groups, including the military, so it would be quite natural for putin to reboot this system a little, and the main thing is that he has an extremely

convenient situation, the government, including shaygu, is forced to resign according to the constitution. and of course, mr. olezh, many experts, many specialists, internationalists, including them, are trying understand putin's logic. and what is he, what is he doing now, and why is he doing it, we understand that he, well, seeks to destroy the ukrainian state, seeks to destroy ukrainians, but the director of national intelligence of the united states of america, avril gaines, believes that the tactics of the russian dictator's goal is to convince ukraine that the continuation of the war will only increase the damage to the country. according to your observations, at the current stage, what is trying to do. that is, to force us to sit down at the table of changes on unfavorable terms and fix them this line of demarcation on the occupied

territories of ukraine, the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine and create a frozen conflict there according to the korean option, that is, north and south korea, or will he still continue and try to achieve it. much more than we can imagine, well, after he so convincingly won the elections in quotation marks, it was clear that he began, as they say, to pert, yes, he just radiated enthusiasm against the background of the fact that ukraine has not could receive a package of financial assistance from the united states states, i think that this decision of congress was not included in putin's plans. i think that putin planned his activities and this company for the summer and autumn, based on the fact that ukraine will be on this projectile famine, and that he has some kind of

agreement there with trump, that trump's republican party will never vote for this package. it is obvious that these plans collapsed, it is also obvious that it did not work and the goal of the campaign was to convince the world that it is not worth helping ukraine, because it is still... playing, and that is why we said to you that the campaign was planned, this ipso, and in order to demoralize ukrainians, to show that everything is lost, to convince the west that ukraine should not be helped, there are many vector campaigns, and this campaign, to talk about the illegitimacy of ukrainian, whatever, to convince ukrainians that that, in principle, it is easier for you now to give what we want, because we will still take everything from you, but we see that now with this campaign there are problems... putin's problems, macron's initiatives, and what we are with you today talked about how leaders behave key european states, providing us

with weapons, among other things, i mentioned this, because i have spoken many times about the fact that even at the time when it seemed to us that ukraine would not receive help, it turns out that we received more than 100 attacks somewhere there in january, in february, and we have only now received information about this, it is clear that there... at least there was a union and the number of members of this union was growing , those countries that understand and are ready, including to use their own armed forces in order to to prevent the occupation of the whole of ukraine putin and the withdrawal of russian troops to the territory of the european union. thank you, mr. oleg, for the conversation, it was oleg hrybachuk, the former vice prime minister of ukraine for european integration and... the head of yushchenko's presidential office. friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live there.

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the past few days, and from... to ukrainian officials, from the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleb and kuleba, and the representative of the main directorate of intelligence, major general vadym skibitsky, the latter, in particular, gave an interview to the british publication the economist and stated that he does not see an opportunity for ukraine to win the war only on the battlefield, but meaningful negotiations between kyiv and moscow are considered possible no earlier than the second half next 2018, skibitsky believes that even if ukraine could push russian forces back to the borders, it would not end the war, according to him, such wars can only end with treaties, and currently both sides are fighting for the most favorable position before potential negotiations, well, the representative gurk says that such negotiations between ukraine and russia are possible in the second half of 2025,

by which time, according to him, russia will face serious headwinds, well, what, what, what is mr. skibitsky, when he talks about headwinds, it is difficult to say, but it is obvious that he is talking about the difficult situation that will exist in the russian federation, starting from 2025, when the russians will spend a lot of money on weapons and on the production of tanks, drones, and they simply have will be short of money, russian dictator putin is spending record sums to militarize the country because of a paranoid fear that the west wants to limit the influence of the russian federation, the director of national intelligence of the united states of america, euryl gaines, said during hearings in congress of the united states of america. let's hear what she said.

a certain paranoia is associated with this. he continues to believe that russia is under threat and almost certainly assumes that his larger and better equipped military will convey this view to western and domestic audiences. he continues to view nato expansion and the west's support for ukraine as reinforcing his long-standing belief that the united states and europe seek to limit russia's power. well, regarding putin's paranoid moods, i think that... evril gaines is exaggerating a bit, because we are dealing with a syrian murderous maniac, and whether he is paranoid or not, but we must record that he is a syrian murderer, that a person who kills tens of thousands of people in ukraine, who destroys cities, villages and seeks to destroy ukraine, is rather,

putin has a manic syndrome. he is a ukrainophobe and is doing everything to make us disappear, so with that in mind he is militarizing his country, boris pistorius, germany's defense minister says that over the last few months we have been watching him say that russian the federation begins to produce more weapons, more than is needed now for the war with ukraine, they are storing these weapons somewhere in siberia. behind the urals or in front of the urals, well , somewhere further there, and they are trying to replenish all their reserves, which were exhausted during the two years of the great war against ukraine. russia did not expect that they would have to decontain old tanks that were still in use during the second world war and bring them to europe, it is meant with...