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the territory of the russian federation and their fate was already decided there. kateryna rashevska, lawyer of the regional center for human rights. she collected evidence of the deportation of ukrainian children for the international criminal court. as rashevska explains, later children from other temporarily occupied territories began to be taken en masse to russian hospitals. in order to pick up the deported children, relatives had to go to occupied... donetsk, otherwise russian-controlled officials would not agree to hand over the children. the path of the relatives had to pass through european countries and russia. there are no checkpoints on the front line. no one wanted to go, everyone was afraid of the fact that there were a lot of incidents, that people, well, went, did not return, or did not arrive, or disappeared, well... and
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many people were not released, and i was told that if i i will go there, well, my one-way ticket is only that my children will remain orphans if i go there to pick them up, well , i didn’t care, i was just really two and a half hours away from the children, damn it, i really understand that i, well, they were so close, well, to go pick up the children tatyana's mother, svitlana dubczak, agrees , she will say... she has lived and worked in poland for several years. and where are you going? i say: behind the children, the child is injured. and they say who hurt, from which side? i say, well, you're sorry, they didn't leave a signature, he told me: "no, no, i won't let you go." i say what, then bring the kids here and i won't go into your territory. only a few manage to bring the children home. there is no single mechanism. neither for
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parents nor for law enforcement officers. volunteers of the save ukrain charitable foundation do not disclose the ways by which children are taken out of russia and the occupied territories, but they have already saved more than a hundred children. with each step , we saw that the russians were trying to block any channels. informed everyone there and the borders, and checked quite thoroughly, and now the latest of our mission shows that the interrogations can last for days, not hours, this indicates that they are afraid and they oppose, that is, their position today is to oppose any return of children, because they understand that every returned child is a witness to a war crime, we have...
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cases of mariupol, we have cases of other settlements, where many crimes were committed by russians, where children were abducted, and these are extremely difficult cases, we continue to work on them, but we do not know yet whether we will be able to return these children. for anton bilai, who recently got out of mariupol, the question of whether to pick up the children does not arise, he is... the only state guardian for two orphaned children, i understood the degree of risk, but somewhere, probably already at the beginning of may, when we are talking with ivan, he cried into the phone, simply simply and began to ask: anton viktorovych, i am begging you, take us away from here, of course, after these words, do not go, no, of course, i could issue a notarized power of attorney for one of the women, for example, yes, it
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is safer for women to go there, that is transfer their responsibility, no one knows what they will throw out and what might happen and so on, so of course, well, i am the director, so i had to go, at about the same time valentina is also going on the road to the occupied territories, she manages quickly take care of the two sisters, i will follow there was an operation. on female organs. and a week after the operation, i could barely walk, and i went to donetsk to pick up my children. i told the doctors, that's all, i'm going, that i have to go urgently, i can't wait. i packed my things and told them to discharge me, i can't do it anymore, i'm going. and in two days i am already going to kyiv. i get on the bus and go to poland. then to latvia. and then i change to a russian
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bus to go to russia and to donetsk, because it was not possible to go on our bus. karina finds sasha in the children's hospital. the boy complains, the nurses do not respond when he asks to turn him over, his prolapse is increasing, the hospital also prescribed a diet for him, as we will later find out, without evidence that, even according to relatives, the boy's leg was planned to be amputated, how can that be it was necessary to keep me in this condition, i was not, well, i was quite thin, i could only raise my arm, i had thin muscles... you can see, i don’t know, and my wounds were treated with the maximum of anything, this is ointment, trouble in the fact that when sasha arrived, on the first day he said where his mother works, the chief doctor said that
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if we don't find our parents, they will immediately send all three of us to an orphanage. the nurses told me, i remember, we will give you to some russian family, you will live there for a long time, you will be comfortable there, better than how you lived before, okay, i went to ask my friend, let's ask, to the park in pizarzhevsky, the local social services have similar plans for sofia and nastya, while valentina goes to pick up her sisters in occupied donetsk, an acquaintance comes to the girls in the hospital... first of all, why secondly, my sister is coming for me, i already told all the doctors about it every day. already during the trip to donetsk, valentina gets in touch with svitlana maiboroda. she heads all
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social services for family and children in the occupied part of donetsk region. they agree that valentina will take the children. by message, people came to us, they want a call from sofya, well , pick us up, take sofya, and leave nastya in the hospital. i say, what are you doing, how can this even happen, why do you allow one child to be taken away, and in general i am going to donetsk, sisters cannot be separated, that is clear. the legend of ukrainian rock with an exclusive program kyiv meet the dead rooster band
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bring hope and comfort to you and your family. i give strength and inspiration to continue to go forward, despite all the obstacles, because truly christ is risen. svitlana maiboroda is a ukrainian official who remained working after the capture of some. regions of donetsk region in 2014. since the beginning of the full-scale war, maiboroda and her organization have participated in the deportation of ukrainian children to russia. and in may 2022, when the fighting for mariupol was still going on, maiburoda came to the city. she chose workers for the new social services controlled by the russians. on the eve of how anton is coming to donetsk, svitlana maiboroda is calling ivan. she offered to go to the camp under...
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then, in order for me to go closer, fine, let them go, and i will come to this camp, you tell me where i will take the children, she said: no, it is difficult, it is impossible to document it , in general, then, then no, well, no, then let them stay in the hospital, i say, don't worry, i'll take them here, and i 'll organize a very good rest for them here, the rest of the children, those who were with the boys in one hospital, no choice is given. they arranged riot, those who lived in the room with us, they went to the head doctor, they said that
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they did not want to go anywhere, but no one listened to them. from the donetsk hospital, the children are taken to the children's social center, from there to the russian city of rostov, then to the boarding house polyana, in the suburbs of moscow, the same place where ivan and i were offered to go. simu, the children have to stay there for a month. we met with these children on the territory of donetsk after their evacuation from mariupol. from the basements of children. were transported by our military on armored personnel carriers and were placed in hospitals, and they stayed there for several months. at the time when we came to donetsk with the team, i met with several of them, and we understood that it is very important now to give these children a chance to breathe.
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maria lvova-bilova, a high-ranking official close to putin, is behind the organization of the so-called recreation and rehabilitation of children. a few months before the full-scale war, she was appointed commissioner of children's affairs in russia. lviv bilova calls the deportation of ukrainian children a salvation. 1090 children from various children's institutions came to us. as you think, our russian citizens, of course, have a big heart and are already lining up to adopt children. very good. and if you allow, i would continue this work. we have now formed a register of those who have documents, and someone can be temporarily placed, someone with russian citizenship could be accommodated. and why only with russian and with any citizenship? she personally comes to the territories occupied by russia, takes children from there and transfers them to russian families.
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she also took lvov-bilova for herself. under care of the mariupol guy pylyp holovnya. philip became the tenth adopted child of maria lvova bilova. on may 30, 2022, putin signed a decree that orphans from the temporarily occupied territories can obtain russian citizenship under a simplified procedure. philip was taken to russia together with 30 others. our editors received this list. we found out that some of these children lived in mariupol. 13 of them were either orphans or their parents were deprived of their rights. in total, we identified at least 20 children who were sent to the boarding house in suburbs of moscow. we wrote to some in social networks with a request
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to communicate. no answers were received, messages were blocked, children changed their names. they do everything in order to wash away the child, to show how much they love her and not even give the opportunity to communicate with the child, and this is all done together with the state authorities there, and the children who want to return, but they change the cards there, there are phones, they are afraid to communicate because this is russia, this is total control, they know that they can be punished, only but they arrived there, i called them, asked them how they were there, they said it was terrible, there are cameras in the rooms, how can you even watch the children, if, for example, you need to change clothes, what is personal space for, we asked ivan and maxim see photos of the children we have identified. alina, i remember, she was with
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us in the hospital on the floor, she is also from mariupol, she... she wants to return home to she asked me to inform here that ukraine, together with her brother, she gave me your data, name, patronymic, last name, then i heard nothing. we found out that the girl, says ivan , is still in russia with her brother. now the girl writes on social networks that she will probably spend the rest of her life there. in general, the boys confirmed that some of the children on the list were in the same hospital with them. ivan still keeps in touch with some of them. we cannot disclose their names for security reasons. i write to him sometimes, congratulate
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him on his birthday, destroy his dream, take a picture. and so at any moment he tells me: if you reach us, take me away. by according to the documents at our disposal, 31 children were taken to russia by kyrylo potelitsyn, the temporary head of the children's social center in donetsk, a subordinate of svitlana maiboroda. probably in the nursery. he worked as a lawyer-consultant at the center, his job duties included legal protection of children, the children were accompanied by two more women, one of them - kytelitsyn, worked at the donetsk children's social center. this operation to deport children from occupied donetsk to russia was not the only one in which
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potelitsyn's colleagues were involved. we established that another group the children were taken to the rostov region a few days before the full-scale invasion. yanina tertychna, a prosecutor who has been obese since the beginning. of the war headquarters is investigating the deportation of ukrainian children. officials from the occupied territories played an important role, they were engaged in organizing the deportation of children, they were also involved in the selection of such children, they prepared documents for these children regarding their removal, if it concerns the 31st child from mariupol, we are investigating all involved persons, these are the guardianship authorities and eye care territories, participation of doctors, participation in guardians who were appointed for this category of children and other management in
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the occupied territory. grandma oleksandra was the first to reach donetsk. the boy has already undergone an operation in the neurosurgical department of a local hospital, a fragment was removed from his body and he was being prepared for return to the children's hospital. as soon as he was put here, he even got a pillow, we brought our pillow from home. at this time, tetiana, oleksandr's mother, manages to arrange for her son to be taken for treatment in georgia. all that remained was for the boy to be discharged hospitals i say, what do you do to him? what state is the fool in? in stable. everything, write it out. no, we will not prescribe. that is, you will not write out. who are you? i am the guardian grandmother. let
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the parents come. i have a power of attorney. who signed the power of attorney? in ukraine? you see, in ukraine. and you need to be in donetsk. they clung to each letter endlessly. they were looking for any reason, not everything. we have established that this conversation took place between the world. and alexander's doctor maksym vakulenko. since 2017, vakulenko has been traveling to russia for medical treatment conference, where he represented the temporarily occupied territory of ukraine. during the active fighting for mariupol, vakulenko went to the city to work in the regional hospital. there he received humanitarian aid from a member of the state duma of russia. another doctor who refused to send oleksandr for treatment abroad, serhiy sirov, head of the surgical department of the children's hospital, he did not want to talk to me at all, he started stuttering, the service will come, let them decide which service, where is the service? when
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karina and i were going to go to that service, from this one immediately they started bombing, rockets were already flying over our heads, when they themselves were scared, and in this confusion, they already ran and ran and... wrote the same shakt, and so they were released. i'm sorry, yes, for a certain period of time they were acting, well, on death row, they had to save the child, okay, her life was saved, but after that, when the threat to life was gone, they had to demonstrate that they were acting according to the norms of international humanitarian rights and were there parallel actions related to the search for relatives of this child? and was there information about this child has been handed over to the international committee of the red cross to reunite him with his family members. in georgia, oleksandr ends up in a children's
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hospital, doctor levan harashvili manages to cure sashka's bedsores and stabilize his general condition. and what is this diet connected with? i do not know. because there from the side of the gastrointestinal tract. he had no problems. there were no injuries to internal organs, he was on a regular hospital diet, we sometimes even pampered him, sometimes fed him fast food, then sashka he is being transported to germany for rehabilitation, where his condition is improving, but now everything seems to have stopped for him. " he can't walk because of the injuries, i don't know, i'm more depressed than usual." that is, i
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don’t count this, i don’t count life at all, in berlin we go with sasha and tatyana to the doctor, it seemed that it was supposed to be another examination, the doctors said that everything was in my hands, and when they ran a scapula with my legs, not i, parallel to it, i moved my fingers, and they moved and they... they said that this is my crow, how will i work out, if i am lazy, then you can’t do anything, well, i won’t be able to, but if i work out, then i have everything, i was prescribed everything i need, and that i work out in therapy , and at home before the massage, she said that he really has chances, he says that he has none, that he is not hopeless at all, because before that we were told that we need to score, we need to do.
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vala manages to quickly pick up the children, but on her way out of donetsk, she is required to return to the city and pass a screening. this is a special procedure during which a person has under duress, documents are checked and an interrogation is conducted. i say, i have two children in my care now, i'm 19 years old, i'm post op, how do i go about filtering? i will not be able to undergo filtration, i urgently need to go home for treatment. they are doing something there,
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and i... i burst into tears, i just have such emotions from fear, i was so scared, and they tell me, well, that's it, don't come back to the donetsk region again, and i'm thinking to myself, we'll see who will not return, who will return, anton takes ivan and maxim from the same hospital. he comes for them in the morning, signs the documents and returns to ukraine with the children through european countries. already in the evening, while we were still in donetsk, already in the evening, my sister sent me a screenshot from the mydr telegram channel, where we were all photographed, and they already signed the news that they are such very nice people, whenever
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the children wanted, then they give. he is the man that you can say has done a lot for me in this life, it's one act but it's pretty big, i keep saying he's my superhero but he says he's not yes, those children who were taken to a boarding house near moscow for a month were not returned, we know for sure that their relatives in ukraine are looking for them, we cannot name them, so far only four children from the list, the ukrainian side was able bring home we called svitlana maiboroda, an official from the temporarily occupied territory, who was involved in the deportation of ukrainian children to russia.
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hello, yes, olesya, hello, good evening, svitlana anatoliivna, dear, my name is olesya, i am a journalist, i have something for you question, tell me why you organized the removal of ukrainian children to the territory of russia? you see, the question is incorrect, you can ask a more correct question. how is it, why and which children? i did not organize anything, i am not authorized to do such an organization, look, for example, the group from the 31st child, in which philip was the leader, the group from the 31st child, in which the leader was palyp, probably make a request, and we will give you an official answer to everything , children were transferred to ukraine only to legal representatives and parents, we are nowhere they were not exported to ukraine.

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