it’s zelenskyi, it’s hard for me to say, because zelenskyi was largely absent during the election campaign, he was engaged in other issues, the boards were their property, but the meaningful burdens, the president was not involved in them, he was globally involved, so we are not very we talked, we started talking more when he became the president, and i became the head of the supreme council, i changed, i think that yes, very much, i think that i have changed, is it better, if it works out... in my personal opinion , no, er, we have these in general, probably different from approach, i would always believe that it is necessary to attract people who can be smarter than me, and because it is strengthening me, strengthening the team, not from five or six managers, but simply strengthening the team, the president probably still has other approaches, but everyone chooses his own path, whether it changed, you know, any power is destructive, absolute power is destructive. absolutely, i think that it is possible

to characterize what is happening today in this way, well, but it is clear that the presidential elections are not on time, it is clear that the parliamentary elections are not on time, well, this means, well, considering what we see is that whatever the presidential team does there, in principle, it will be their responsibility, no one from the civil society there can blame them, because when the journalists come to power there. they get notices on their doors and receive summonses, politicians also receive some criminal cases, there is something else, that is, it means that the more, the longer we do not have elections, the more there is a threat that we will slide into authoritarianism, in a dictatorship, whether there is, or there is such a threat, any complete power concentrated in one hand, it is according to yes, but

in the office they learned to translate it very well, but today they are trying to translate it, i know that they do not like the deputies, and for the most part, according to many of my colleagues, if you can call them that, it is true, but what is happening today is the transfer of responsibility from the office to the verkhovna rada or the cabinet, today there is no verkhovna rada, today there is no cabinet of ministers of ukraine, there is a department attached to the office. of the president for the approval of legal or legal decisions made in the office of the president, and there is a department for their implementation, one is called the verkhovna rada of ukraine, the other is the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, no more. today, these two key bodies for the existence of the state are not decision-making points, you know, we are already joking, why nothing comes to the verkhovna rada, because the russians said that they will be decision-making centers, but neither the verkhovna rada nor the cabinet are such centers. is not. today, but it would be

funny if, this is very dark humor, but if you and i are talking about approaches in general, then i believe that it is not necessary to hold elections today it is possible objectively, because ah, who among us, stefanchuk talked about the fact that he was studying international experience, how elections should be held during the war, something he had already stopped studying, apparently he had studied, or after the president said, that everyone who talks... about elections during the war, it is treason to work in russia, stefanchuk decided that it is no longer necessary to work in russia, but, seriously, i am all that intelligent to the powers that be, there are no questions today, that is the verkhovna rada of ukraine clearly spells out its powers continues until the end of the martial law, this is clearly stated in the constitution and laws, and based on this, the council will not work independently of anything, until the end of the war. invasion before the end of

the war. well, if the council will work, someone will question the president's powers, and this is russia, i will emphasize these powers once again. why, why then zelenskyi's team, how can you understand the logic, why they did not receive the opinion of the constitutional court and did not put all the dots of hope, because the constitution can be interpreted in ukraine only has a constitutional court, and they would have this verdict constitutional, they say. laws to the constitution and said, listen, this moscow is doing something of its own propaganda over there, but we have such a conclusion, all the answers, all the answer options that i will name now, you will not like, first, they did not have enough sense for this , secondly,

the answer that the constitutional court would give does not suit them, well , there are different conversations, experts talk about the fact that they went to talk to the constitutional court, we received such an answer that... neither zelenskyi nor his office was satisfied, i don’t know how true it is, it’s hard for me to say about it, well, what powers, for example, should, yes, emerge and it is necessary to hand over the powers to stefanchuk on a voluntary basis, that is, there, there really is no clearly written norm in the constitution, how the president should act, it is a unique situation, but there is no continuation of powers, what the circles say, and again, this can be my opinion, it can be your opinion, and and started on such an account, that on mine, that on yours, it would be possible to sneeze, if there was, there would be a decision of the collegial court, where it was written: the authority of the president continues until the end of the martial law in ukraine, period, and everything is the same, what razumkov thinks, what ivanov thinks, what petrenko, sydyrenko thinks , or someone else, there is

a decision, we may have different opinions, but they do not carry any semantic load, just as if it were written that the decision is constitutional. the court that he should transfer, for example, the powers of the chairman of the verkhovna rada there to stefanchuk, so that stefanchuk continued steering these processes, this is also a possible variant of the development of events, but it had to be done in the following way, it had to be done last year in the 23rd president on his own, so as not to create some kind of political game out of this, so that later it was not told that someone plays into moscow's hand or does not play into moscow's hand, go and appeal to the constitutional court, you asked the right question, get an answer. the way it is, well, it would be logical that he extended his powers, or made another decision and said, look, something like that such and such a decision should be that the president should voluntarily hand over the powers of the chairman of the verkhovna rada, or extend his powers until the end of martial law, and

that 's all. parties, eh... i repeat once again that there is no poroshenko, no tymoshenko, no group, no voice, no intelligent policy, will not go to the maidan there and say: everything, this, this tsar has gone bad, bring the next one, there is no such thing it will be, it's logical and understandable, but it will definitely be to use russia outside the borders of our state, where the influence of the president is internal. censorship does not work, and they will shake it up, and unfortunately, today's situation, which is happening against the background of the upcoming elections and in the european parliament and the upcoming elections in the united states of america, taking into account those

candidates who will participate in the elections and who can win and taking into account their personal relationship with the current president, the president of ukraine may lead. to serious negative consequences, unfortunately, russia has this resource, which they will definitely have to use, but our government, it always concentrates on the smallest problems, but which are under their noses, to see how it will unfold in world geopolitics, they do not know how, this is a problem, it is not a problem for them, it is a problem for the state, for the state in which you and i live, and for... the existence of which the armed forces of ukraine are fighting today. well, maybe, maybe volodymyr oleksandrovich is thinking that if he leaves this post, then without him the state institutions will not work, that the army will not work, no, the army will not work, because he the supreme commander, and well, it can

be explained that a person thinks more about the state in this situation than about his own interests, or vice versa? you can explain, but accept. no, i will explain why: there is a law, there is a constitution, there is a constitutional court, and you should not proceed from what you believe, you can believe one thing, he will believe another, i will believe a third, but unlike what we we believe that there is a law that every civil servant, or every political figure, everyone, even if you think that you are the most, the most, the most necessary for the state at the moment, and you have, and you think that you will do as you want, because then it may not turn against you, again, this own political ambitions of any politician or political

figure, these are his personal problems, it can change the attitude towards the country, the attitude towards the government that exists in the state from the outside. international partners and lead to negative consequences, this cannot be allowed, but for the most part ukrainian politicians continue to live in the regime, i want, or i think so, and not so define. by law, and it will be good for the country. well, when you were dismissed, you didn't resist there with your hands and feet and said: "no, no, i will not leave my post, because i was elected, i will be the head of the verkhovna rada for as long as necessary. no, i , i always said that i will not hold on to the position, i will tell you more, if it was fundamental for me to stay in this position, i would stay in it, but then i had to be more flexible to no, i had to be able to give in to my principles". and i don't want to compromise my principles, they are worth much more to me than

positions, because i really don't want to be ashamed of myself, even more so that my children are ashamed of their father, so i will not compromise those the principles with which i went in the 19th year, unlike many who want to get a position there and want to keep it, it is their choice, i think that we will be judged. history will judge us and put everything in its place and we will see glimmers of hope, but as of today, i really don't i held on to any position, including the position of chairman of the verkhovna rada, i did not file a lawsuit, i did not play with the fact that i was removed from my position in violation of the law, in violation of the regulations, many other things, the decision was made, i took a different path in order to... complete all that was promised, including by zelenskyi in 19th year, but

was not fulfilled, and i will work on this even after the victory, now they just did not want you were the acting president, well, suddenly, no, they are not very good at all wanted me to be the chairman of the verkhovna rada, it happened by chance, to be honest, and it happened by chance for them, they simply did not even understand the importance of the position of the chairman of the verkhovna rada, objectively. don't be surprised by this, i can see that your eyes are widening through your glasses, but this is a fact, and i think that the job of the chairman of the verkhovna rada was not easy for me, i will not now understand who the chairman of the verkhovna rada is, you need to read the constitution and powers, especially there are some things that relate to powers that are serious enough, that is, yes, but, but, to me. i liked this job, despite the fact that i constantly had

conflicts with the president's office, well , it was just not right to talk about it at that time, you are part of the power structure and it was not correct to point the finger at someone, in this regard i always occupied a principled position, but nevertheless everything that does not happen happens for the best, and for me, i am basically satisfied today. that i am not part of the government, because to look at all that is happening today, i would not be ready, silently, i would not sit, especially that would not support those wrong things that unfortunately are happening today, so you know, we had easter yesterday, so i think that the lord god helped in this matter, and sent everyone to his own place, again. short topic, we don't have much time on the air, the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine officially

announced today that they do not see the right grounds for recognizing putin as the president of the russian federation, on may 7 the so-called inauguration of the so-called president putin, the so-called putin, i would said, and that during the so-called elections in russia there were the provisions of numerous international documents were violated, in particular through the organization of the election process in the occupied territories of ukraine. based on the explanation. also taking into account the warrant of the international criminal court for putin's arrest, ukraine does not see the right grounds for recognizing him as the democratically elected and legitimate president of the russian federation. well, this topic, which appeared today in the form of a statement by the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, is late. that is, this topic should have been downloaded, as you say, earlier. and to do everything so that ukraine is the first state that ignorance initiated this. of the legitimacy of president putin, not after the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe adopted

a resolution and recommended not to recognize putin's legitimacy, why, why in this situation, it is immediately obvious, on whose side is the truth, i.e. the ukrainian state, on whose part of the occupied territory are taking place elections, and it is already absolutely obvious that the votes that were supposedly cast for... violated or not violated, international law is the same, it is either violated or not violated. and first of all, i think it is necessary to start with what you started the program with, about negotiations, this is the first thing, i think that this is precisely an indicator of how some kind of communication was conducted or is being conducted, otherwise it is possible to explain it, well, it is possible only with an absolute lack of professionalism and

lack of opportunity to build a plan for at least two steps. i.e. there are eight-to-ten-year-old children sitting there, although no, i don't want to offend the children, i think they are 8-9 years old can draw a higher-quality plan than what we see today at the level of the authorities' actions, and on the other hand, i think that this is an attempt to shift the informational accents that are taking place in the space today, starting there from the horde, well, from the wanted announcement , including. of the events that take place at the front, from the point of view of the media, the representatives of the office very often work qualitatively, from the point of view of state planning and strategy, it seems to me that we have constant miscalculations, including regarding the elections in russia federation, we did not finalize this topic before the elections and we should have worked right

here, ringing all the bells before... the elections, use this topic as much as possible immediately after the elections, and not now, how much is there in a day, yes, tomorrow is the inauguration, in a day , a day before the inauguration of the so-called president putin. thank you, dmytro oleksandrovych, for the conversation, by the way, about the media, about the media, during the past week the national public television and radio company of ukraine was at the epicenter of scandals, people's deputy of ukraine mariana bezugla nominated a string claims of accusations against the public broadcaster, let's see how it all turned out and what it actually can lead to, we'll talk later. a telethon for your own. community, one of the six producers of the national marathon of single news this week found itself between two fires. colleagues announced their intention to take away from him the prime

evening slots, which are watched by the largest number of viewers, the people's deputy... from the servant of the people maryana bezugla published several posts on social networks accusing the broadcaster. the experts connected immediately these two events brought to mind the story of the dismissal of the head of the armed forces valery zaluzhny, which resembled a special information operation and was started by maryana bezugla as well. this time , the deputy blamed the public for the apparently small reach of the audience, for the high salaries of the management and even. employment schemes for men with the aim of their reservation, but the main message was a call to reduce public funding for the broadcaster. so, currently we have de facto a6 state channels, social with all ramifications, council, dom, freedom, telethon, army media holding i believe that the six state broadcasters

should be made one, and the funds should be redirected to the creation of information and... cyber troops of ukraine, to create information and cyber troops of ukraine. but public has long ceased to be state. thanks to the support of western countries after the revolution of dignity, the once truly state channel was reformed and became public. the office of the president, the cabinet of ministers, and even the verkhovna rada do not have direct mechanisms of influence on its editorial policy. monitoring shows that the public is the only participant in the telethon that allows itself give different points. for example, to invite people's deputies from different factions, in particular from european solidarity, maybe there are some stop lists for other channels or something else, as the opposition says, they are often forwarded and agreed on specific speakers in the marathon, we don't have such a thing, and maybe that's what worries me representatives of the authorities

that they cannot interfere in our editorial policy, the telethon is the only news. was launched on february 24, 2022, leading media groups and tv channels united to participate in it. early after the full-scale invasion, the telethon fulfilled its function: to prevent panic and promptly inform ukrainians about the progress of the war, but now, according to many media experts, it has become an informational relic. confidence in him continues to fall. according to the kmis survey conducted in february. only 36% of ukrainians trusted 2024-horaphone, while 47% did not. the telethon was also mentioned in the recent report of the american state department on the violation of human rights in ukraine in 2023 as an example of restrictions on freedom of speech. however, the authorities do not plan abandon the format controlled by it.

serhii leshchenko, adviser to the head of the president's office, andriy yarmak, said this, in particular, on the air of the same telethon. part of the russian information war against ukraine is being waged by discrediting the marathon, realizing that if there is no marathon, the media will cause chaos. it is extremely easy for the media house to create provocations that split society and put ukraine in front of russian aggression internally. the telethon is not the only example of the government's desire to fully control the information space, introducing not only military, but also political censorship. on april 4, 2022 , an unprecedented event took place in the ukrainian media field. without any formal decisions and even without explanations, the authorities in an illegal... manner threw out three nationwide tv channels from digital broadcasting at once. espresso - direct and fifth channel. this decision has not yet been overturned. it is obvious not to talk about what

these three channels have done, to say: "no, you will leave public." well, we will quietly forget about those, because we are ashamed. we understand that we will not convince them, because this power. well, this is hypocrisy. why do we need social and everything else then? where is the truth then? the truth is that the public needs to be absolutely protected. definitely close the telethon on... instead, even before the war, from the first days of the full-scale invasion, the authorities helped ukrainians get hooked on the information needle of the telegram messenger, which was launched by the russian pavlo durov, and which, as many experts assume, may be connected to the russian special services. in particular , representatives were invited to president zelensky's press conference anonymous telegram channels. now it seems that even the banking industry has realized that this is... a threat. head of gur kyrylo budanov directly called messenger with russian roots a problem of national security. and the verkhovna rada has already registered a bill on

the regulation of this and other social networks in the part that concerns information activities. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us on these platforms. please subscribe to our pages. take part in our survey. today we ask you about the following: are peace negotiations with russia possible? yes, no, please vote with the appropriate buttons on youtube. if you 're watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote. if yes, then 0800 211 381, no 0800 211-382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote. and maria ionova, the people, should join us in a minute. mp of ukraine, member of the verkhovna rada committee on foreign policy and interparliamentary cooperation. let's talk with her, in particular about this in the near future, russia will conduct

training aimed at increasing the readiness of non-strategic nuclear forces to perform combat missions. this is stated today in the message published in the morning by the ministry of defense of the russian federation, which informs the shaigu department, the regime in kyiv and. its western masterminds should finally realize that their reckless steps are bringing the situation closer and closer to the accumulation of an explosive critical mass, we hope that this measure will cool the hot heads in western capitals, help to realize possible catastrophic consequences of the strategic risks generated by them and will deter them both from supporting the kyiv regime, its terrorist actions, and from being drawn into a direct armed confrontation with russia, well the fact is that today russia made a number of statements and threats, announced threat towards

great britain, towards france, summoned the ambassadors in great britain and france and told them that the british had been told that if british weapons flew over the territory of the russian federation, then in response great britain is also being hit not only at objects on the territory of ukraine, but obviously we are talking about the embassy of great britain, other institutions that work on behalf of the state of great britain, and the french were also told that if french troops appear there, then we will also give an answer, and these exercises of non-strategic nuclear forces should obviously demonstrate the determination, the so-called determination of the so-called president putin, who, by the way, on may 7. in 2024, it will be held again inauguration, and no one recognizes the powers and

not a single civilized country, but well... he decided to arrange such a show, and we already have maria ionova, a people's deputy of ukraine, on the phone. mrs. mary, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, christ is risen. christina is resurrected. mrs. maria, i have already told our tv viewers that today russia is trying to thunder nuclear weapons at us, and is threatening everyone, including the representatives of great britain and france, and we have already agreed that the russian foreign ministry said that russia will perceive the appearance in f-16 aircraft to ukraine as carriers of nuclear weapons, regardless of their modification. how to perceive these statements? this means that the kremlin is once again trying to get hold of the nuclear suitcase, and who in the end will give that kremlin grandfather a hand so that he does not touch that nuclear suitcase at all and remembers that nuclear weapons are a weapon of deterrence. in the world, not

an assault weapon? well, mr. sergey, explaining something to a criminal, in fact, is not even worth wasting time, you and i know that this is the last straw when we hear such, such blackmail from putin, and he constantly grabs for it, just when you and i, well, we hear quite decisive statements from our partners, who have already reconsidered the same... and their policy, and we will say yes, too, we hear the statements of the leaders who say that this or that weapon will be delivered, but every time, well, when we hear this blackmail, we understand that somewhere, somehow, moscow is getting hurt, and they are getting nervous , it seems to me that this last statement, well, to be honest, it is such a bluff, it reminds me, because a

that's right... we see with you such non-standard steps from our british friends and show that putin can't survive anymore, he also needs to show his society that everything is going according to plan for him, so this indicates that that the allies are acting correctly and decisively, but again it is necessary that even more these statements become potentially effective, and also i think that ... for sure, you know, we felt when russia talked about nuclear blackmail at our various international meetings , well, what do our friends, let's say, perceive these statements, well, not nervously, but with fear, yes, and i would really like to, and now we will work in the same way so that they are definitely not nervous, that is, the civilized world definitely should not be nervous, because putin understands that the circle

is narrowing and in russia, well... there is less and less leverage or deterrence, and therefore on the contrary, all our friends and partners must condemn, condemn this rhetoric, you know, but still not only make statements, but also not limit ourselves to statements , after all, too, well , accordingly, their results should be on the battlefield of our armed forces, and therefore... you know, there is no need to be silent there, again, it is necessary to simply emphasize and remind the russian federation that they should withdraw their troops, de-occupy our territories and prepare to really, well, answer according to international law for their war crimes, and therefore frankly, you and i know that the west has a lot of such tools, they can change behavior.