for sure they were not nervous, i.e. the civilized world definitely should not be nervous, because putin understands that the circle is narrowing in russia too, well , there is less and less leverage or deterrence, and therefore, on the contrary, all our friends and partners should condemn, condemn this rhetoric . to be silent there, again, you just need to emphasize and remind the russian federation, that they should withdraw their troops, de-occupy our territories and prepare, indeed, to answer according to international law for their war crimes and... therefore frankly, you and i know that

the west has a lot of such tools, they can change the behavior of the russian federations and strategy can change them, that is, i think that right now everything is just beginning, that's why the fact that, well, in general, russia threatens so much, well, even with such strikes on military facilities, to be honest, britain is a nato country, and that's why and such, you know, these are such statements, they are very soviet. sound like the rhetoric of the soviet school of diplomacy, that is, it is clear that we expected, yes, such sharp statements, like a tooth for a tooth is so russian, but again, i think that we just need to remind our partners that even more weapons, unfortunately , i believe that we do not have enough sanctions policy, and secondary sanctions work, so these declarative scaremongers of the kremlin should just a... quite

strongly declare that such rhetoric is unacceptable, and again, confirm with actions that our, our democratic countries, they are interested in russia losing, and us, as a civilized democratic world, winning. by the way, these statements are today, they were made in parallel with the meeting of the chinese leader xi jinping with the french president, emmanuel macron, and during the meeting with the chinese leader, emmanuel macron said that the coordination of the position between them regarding ukraine and the middle east is crucial. let's listen to what the french president said. it is obvious that we need this european-chinese dialogue more than anytime i spoke about this recently when i was talking about... our europe, we

are at a turning point in our history and we need to overcome the structural difficulties, ms. maria, can france and china and not only france, but germany and the countries of the european union together with china, these are the so-called structural difficulties, or simply put, the difficulties that arise in communication with the russian federation absolutely in... in everyone, probably, except for xijin ping himself. well, mr. seri, let's face it, china is indeed a very important side in this war. and the fact that the visit took place is really very important, and again, the picture is much broader, that is, a multi-layered defining visit precisely between relations, primarily between france and china, ah, between the european union and china and, in principle, for the european . continent and for such

a further further development of the situation in our war against the kremlin, and this visit confirms, well, in principle, what we heard, and again, he recognized macron as the leader of the european union, that is, what he can decide with him pan-european and global issues, and well... you and i are aware that the ukrainian dossier occupies a prominent place in the list of all these issues, and it is very symbolic that, well, in fact, the last days, well, not the last days, we hear what statements macron has activated his in the mass media, that is, he publicly came out with such a series of very clear and important signals precisely regarding support. and he also

stated that if france was ready to fight putin's such a threat in europe, that is, he already clearly stated that... this is a threat to europe, and let's put it this way, and he also emphasized that he intends to play more of such an independent role precisely in the relations between the united states, china, and europe, therefore, the results of this meeting are undeniable, they will determine such trends of the war in the near future, in particular, as far as china is concerned, you and i know how much. .. to what extent china helps the military-industrial complex of the russian federation, this war machine, and, nevertheless, china is interested in peace-making processes, and this implementation of macron's initiative regarding the olympic

truce, this is also what china is interested in, and i think we can only join our friends in the european union when... they clearly state and rely on china to use its influence to end the war, and they can do that, and so as well we are talking to those countries that, let's say, can also advocate for china, you and i also heard the statements of ursula funderlein today, ah, where she also clearly said that we count on the fact that... well, china will use its influence so that russia stops its aggression on the territory of ukraine, and by the way, it is interesting praised the chinese leader, precisely for the important role of de-escalation, de-escalation of such

irresponsible nuclear threats by the russian federation, that is why and by the way, if i am not mistaken, she added by the way that she is sure that... everyone, he will continue to do this, so i i think that i have, well, but the main issue for us is the participation of all in switzerland in the peace summit, that is, it is very important for us that china is present there, and at what level it will be, and again, it is interesting, what will be china's position because you and i know that the russian leader, he warned everyone else... against participating in this event, and that is why the prospects for the participation of the people's republic of china in the summit are interesting, that is, this is such an issue of extreme importance, i think that there will be negotiations and there will be such a level,

where, let's put it this way, we will understand what the future prospects of this russian aggression will be, and i will conclude interestingly, what are you waiting for? personally from the global peace summit, it is clear that there will be about 100 participants or participants from 100 countries, the pope has already been invited, so what should be the result of this meetings? mr. serhiy, well, you and i understand that it is simply not possible to answer your question, because it depends on what level, when we will be, even you and i will be able to predict some results diplomatically, when we understand who the participants are and at what level levels and these participants, so our goal and goal and desire, well , clarity, what should be decided at this peace summit, but again, it will not mean that the war will end the next day, and the threat of the kremlin will disappear, because on

alas, the threat is long-term, and for us too it is important to be ready and anticipate some events and already give answers to those challenges, which we... understand will be not only for ukraine, but also for nato countries. so , again, it's very important for me, and it will be such a very strong signal, when the participation of the people's republic of china is at a fairly high level. i think we understand what we are talking about. and a very short question, you said that there is a long-term perspective, ukraine will probably be next to russia for centuries. well, god gave us geographically such neighbors, does this mean that it will be forever between russia and ukraine, and one way or another we have to prepare not for tens of years, but for hundreds of years of this

confrontation. mr. serhiy, russia has been a threat to ukrainian independence for centuries, we have to do our part, we need to strengthen our security and defense sector, we need to ... implement those reforms as soon as possible in order to meet the criteria of countries and become a member of the eu and nato , but again very much. take your inner homework seriously, and especially the army, that is, our partners must also understand that without ukraine we are a deterrent to the russian federation, ms. maria, let's put an end to this, please forgive me, the time on the air is coming to an end. thank you for participating in the program, maria ionova, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, during this program we conducted a survey, we asked you about whether peace negotiations are possible. with russia, let's look at the results of the television poll on the screen, please show it,

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today we will devote somewhere around 30 minutes to 45 - 30 -45 just for conversations. there is a person who accompanies me all my life, i watched a movie with this person when i was 25-30, then times passed, he changed, the world around him changed, he still starred in movies, then i went to the theater, then we even starred in the same movie with him, and this is bohdan biniuk, without a doubt, and who else can i accompany myself with, who only bohdan can go through life with me, it's good that you didn't say that i still see his fairy tales for good. to all those who gave life in the graves, i also congratulate everyone on the holidays, may god give us health, i hope that we will celebrate with the whole world for the second year together, christ, i have a question the first part of the questions will be exclusively acting,

exclusively related to cinema and theaters. because i, too, played there somewhere in the theaters and also in the cinema, in the cinema, and for me it is a challenge, that is, i just have a hard time imagining how it is possible to do this all the time, and when they tell me that there are daytime performances, and then still evenings, so i can do something there for 5 days in a row on the stage, but then i have to go away for at least six months, normalize, push myself, and when i see, when i see uh... the main actors, i understand, he starred, he put his 5 million in his pocket for six months he is resting, he went somewhere, did something somewhere, this is such an emotional tension, for me, although bohdan sylvestrovych stupka, with whom i once spoke right in the walls of your theater, said that for the first 5-10 years he was really stressed, and then it was just technique , what do you

have, tell me, well, he was right to some extent, because if this work is acting... you are high, then you don't notice all the troubles that you just said that you have every day , every day you prepare, the tension, no, you have to enjoy it, it's a kind of game, like a child the little one is playing, she played there in the sandbox, and everything changes, absolutely, if an actor learns to live in such a childlike mode, volodymyr mykolayovych globlin once told me, he said, baby, you will be an artist as long as there is a child inside you , and he is right, 100%, because then it doesn't become so incredible that you can't, can't cross, but it happens, again, remembering bohdan sylvestrovych, i'm sorry teska, i'm sorry, i know that all the stars don't like it when they compared to other stars, but he is already a star, a star who has passed away, i think it is honorable, he is already a star in the sky, and we are still, thank

god, walking here, yes, and he says, i say, and i am this technology , technique, he says, you need to see me... don't go to see me in may, that's my question, by the way, i'm saying, why bohdan se, because summers start in may, especially i need to be seen on friday, saturday, because my friends are in the country, everyone is having fun, eating barbecue, and i'm on stage, and i'm so sorry that when a tragic role, i so naturally cry, i'm just in the mood, come to me on saturday, sunday, just in may, when... and you have some that push you to perform the role somehow even more inspired, at least for viewers, something something can happen around? now in our country, probably the war played a primary role in such a theater boom, where the theaters are enormously popular, a number of very good young directors of the european level have appeared, who

make goods for the stage, who make very high-quality performances, who are already invited... at the festival abroad, but it is difficult to get abroad, and this theater boom, which exists, has taken away the feeling of saturday and sunday, when potatoes will be planted, potatoes were planted, i planted on may 1-2, because those were weekends, eh, when the parade was in the yard, and i was on the mountain, there we had such steps in the beds, and my mother made me help her plant potatoes there, i only watched the buses with red flags, which drove down the serpentine hills, there in... the yard on on parade this, but when i now we feel this theater boom, all theaters, and municipal theaters in kyiv, and franko's theater, and lesya ukrainka's theater. opera houses, people, you can see, there is still a desire to forget about these problematic things that exist around for two or three hours, and it was even two years

ago, when the theater, well, with such proboxovkas, but started these performances again, which started in may, i remember in the 22nd year, it was very difficult, we were not allowed into the ivan franko theater, because it is directly under the administration of the president, and the ministry of culture allowed us to share the theater of lesya ukrainka, on three days, three days they well, what were they afraid of just shelling, that they would shoot at the president, and so at you, and the performances, which were slowly winding down, they led to today's state, where we came due to a blackout and everyone bought their energy supplies, found the patrons who helped the theater to exist, i remember there were english english television crews came to see us for a performance of 100,000, and the light came out in us and we... and we couldn't even open the curtain, and so the audience in a full hall, we stretched the curtain on one side and on the other side with their hands, the artists became, tied this curtain, i began

to tell the story, what will happen here now, i say here are eight of us, we are playing, this is my wife, this is my son, this is my daughter -in-law , which i will have, this is banaventura, who runs and looks for those penades that are buried in the ground, it will be day and night here now, we will not be able to show you this, but you will... according to our mood, it is also after the performance, we did not know that there were english people, they were simply, they were simply stunned by the fact that there is a possibility of such open communication, it is a kind of there was such an open master class, but you can do it once, the second time you will already be preparing for it, and it can already be uninteresting, improvisation can happen, and it happened, where we patched those holes, and when the actors are so powerful , that they can take responsibility for how this play will go, or how it... will then continue or we literally somewhere at the end well played richard ii twice no-no no all his sons all his sons the play and

twice there was an airy alarm we first act they played normally, they started the second act, we are just starting the second act, people return to the hall air alarm, we played for 25 minutes again air alarm, but people do not go , people arrange applause. and when they listen to the material, they feel that the drama, which was written in 1947 and is absolutely adequate for today, business problems, problems of making money in the war, how it all happens, just silence in the hall, and everyone listens these incredible words that crawl into our hearts, because we have them the same things are happening, the theatrical boom, it is now working on something else , it has changed, you have already seen so many audiences and such and such communist and anti-communist. the audience comes to see drama, tragedy, comedy, but they don't choose comedy, they say, we have a war now, and the audience would like to go to a lyrical drama there, no, they go to everything, only because when

they see, that on theirs, on their sheep , life is born, and it is born differently every time, because they are avid theatergoers, they come to every performance, maybe not just one and come not twice, but several times , they see a completely different performance, and therefore this is the birth of life in front of them... this is the most important thrill, where they sail with you and sail with us and forget about the problems that we have , so it is, and that is why it is very important that this moment, which you mentioned about what happened during the soviet union, when potatoes were planted there, and in may no one went to the theater anymore, because potatoes had to be planted, and we everyone went on vacation, june, july, or went on tour, now that's it there is no, and there is a great positive in this for artists who have... the opportunity to feel the audience and in this way, well, how can you not thank and or cheat the audience when he spends his money, he takes a risk,

comes to the theater, he spends he spends his time and sits with us when there are air alarms, he does not leave, he watches until the end, but this is just gold, this is the person who supports the theater, well, the state supports us, gives us a salary fund , but what we earn the rest for costumes, decorations, utilities, this is a huge volume. funds that the theater must earn, and this is without the help of the audience, who will also donate to the army, or we are playing a play for the army, and it is extremely important that such an internal impulse goes to the theater, well, you can't get tickets, there the franka theater has a play konotopska witches, where it is impossible to get to, and they call to ask if performances are sold two months in advance in the theater in podil, where i work there, and the theater in frankada, where i also work, and this phenomenon of war, it pushed creativity. because of the war it is up to you to preserve our culture, and the theater is a component of culture, and it is very important that this component works on such a positive , cool, and i think, but how can an actor now...

come and find, they say, how did you say that the word, how to play the mechanics later, no, the audience is everything, he sees through your eyes, either you are working, or you are tinkering, and next to you, when there are three people with you, they give themselves to the performance, someone alone stands on the side, then even him and they do not see, and do not know, and do not remember who was next to them at the performance. you know, what an energetic thing is going on, and this is a very important moment, and you can’t change the theater for any movie, because the movie is temporary, it has been filmed, as we have now shot the sequel to the film landlord, landlord-2, where the script is very good, it begins on february 20, 24 , 2022, where to the bubble, before that there were four series, where to the bubble, now in this series

the russians are coming to visit it. and i can say about myself and for the audience , first of all, you can act in a movie, but you don't act in the theater, it's so scary, a mistake in the movie can be double 2, double 3, double 32. when i'm in the theater was leaving, my legs are like this, so where is the 10th performance, i don’t play much, i don’t have such a repertoire, i have two, two, ugh in my head, and i, i know that i will play this one this week , and the first day my legs are shaking like this, and the second day they are shaking, i am afraid to forget, i forget to stand, smile here, here i cried, horror, so in the cinema, i hu, well, sorry, i am here

again, well, i understand. i'm you, not you, let's do a second take, there are no takes in the theater, damn it, but in the cinema there is another side, that you starred in the movie, and you have no right to change anything, you would it was well remade, but it is no longer available, but the theater gives an opportunity to act in a new way, and this thrill, what this new birth and all the time you live, but now i will have 200 performances tomorrow, which i have performed 100, 200 performances , and every time the audience comes as an adult. it turns out that the play is not for schoolchildren, but it is our classic, and this classic of ours, for example, the owner, who was moved by ivan uryvskyi, moved the stage of the theater in podil, where all the characters of the beginning of the 20th century were moved to the office , and those people live in the office who trade in land, raise cattle, they only see on tv how cattle move there, that they play golf in their office and do not leave it, and look, it turns out that the angle of vision can change classics,

well, very... powerful, i i went to beijing with my group of actors for a theater festival, where 50 schools from asia and europe gathered in beijing, and there was one task for everyone, an hour-long performance of king lear, one task for everyone, and i sat in the hall and looked like from south korea to scotland they showed shakespeare's king lear, and everyone added something national to it, it was like that, i think shakespeare... turned over in his grave probably a huge number of times, but the poles just shook me, where the three daughters, king lear was not there, three days, three daughters of king lear, the king was in the form of a big beautiful inlaid crown, in our stage they kicked this crown with their feet and were completely contemptuous of what the father had created, and it was a completely different image is revealed, that is, these are incredible things that happen to the , what people came up with classics 100, 200, 300 years

ago, and it is circled in the wake of this life, the situation changes, circumstances change, the machine, but genius, genius remains, there is nowhere else, and relationships between people, this is the truth, and i will be so to gradually pick up on such quasi -political topics, you just said that your theater was banned because of security reasons and then you had to play in the forest of ukrainka for... it is completely incomprehensible to me, i cannot understand how to do it like this, i i'll be honest, maybe everyone will beat me and maybe you will nationalist, you will kill me somewhere, but i honestly want to listen to chekhov in russian, so listen to yourself, just don't say it out loud, i want to go to the theater, that i want to come to the theater, go to the theater in moscow, and so on that is, it's yours, it's yours already, especially the russian language - it's an irritant, it wants it.