to be honest, well, it’s like a machine gun, you just need to take it, recharge it and see if it works or not, well , for the sake of fairness, it must be said that such training is conducted regularly, and for a component, including a nuclear component, that’s for sure , and if it were not a war now, then there would be no such respect for this, the problem is that now everything is less controlled, because russia... has given up the regime of control, it must be said that the usa also at one time also, well, they tore up, tore up a bunch of contracts, and now it is bursting at the seams, the entire system of international law in the context of non-proliferation, the days when it was joined, when the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, when ukraine was forced, their hands were twisted, well, we, well, circumstances changed and we joined there as a non-nuclear state , this is all breaking down and... and the countries

of the whole world are looking at this, so there are two aspects here: the first aspect, are these exercises constantly carried out, are they always taken out, for example, ammunition with a tactical, there with a nuclear charge, well not always, as far as i know, both in soviet times and now, sometimes it is taken out, sometimes not, but this is a normal practice, which is abnormal, that when it starts to be used from the outside and they start talking about it publicly, they start hinting. for use, what russia is doing falls under everything, under the nuclear convention that one cannot threaten with nuclear weapons, that is, they violate all these things, which is important to understand here, first, from the point of view of the perception of all this in the international the plan makes no difference whether it is a tactical warhead or a strategic one, it is called a weapon... mass destruction, and from

a military point of view, these are different things in terms of, well , primarily in terms of means of delivery and the power of the charge, so no one will consider now from the point of view of power, yes, everything will be considered from the point of view the red line of the use of nuclear weapons, and russia knows very well that they have already been told this in china, and beijing has also told washington to... what will happen after that, that is, i will say this, an attempt to use any charge there nuclear weapons, this is the loss of china for russia at once, the loss of china is a chain, isolation, and this is the end of the war with a loss, they understand this very well, that is why now they react to these threats in a different way than before, but what is important to understand for all of us and perhaps for...

ukrainians, because i remember i see, when everyone was looking for some mirrors there, something else, and now they are reacting more calmly and quite rightly, so until the first test, the test of nuclear weapons, and they haven't been for 30 years, talk about what's next somewhere even at training they will use it or try it, it doesn't happen, that is, the first one the sign will be a test. has now come out, withdrawn, as far as i understand, the ratification or signature already under this test ban project, that is, this will be the moment from which you can talk about some complex intentions, for now, for now, as kirby said in a state in the white house, he said something like this, that when this issue is resolved, withdraw the troops from ukraine and there will be no more threats from you, that's all. where,

mr. valery, this is the limit that the russians are bluffing, and the limit where they can do it, because before the beginning of the great war in ukraine, we also perceived this as the 21st year, and training, you remember, in april, when zelensky flew to qatar, and in general no one even suspected that such a thing could happen, i am from the amount of information that i have now and in the 22nd year. i immediately said this back in march, if you remember, in broadcasts from the press as well, that russia will not use strategic nuclear weapons, that is, well, there you can explain the arguments why, with smaller charges, that is what is called tactical nuclear weapons, well, it is different, it can be quite powerful, but for example, it can be a depth charge, lubin mine, or maybe 155 mm. or

rather 203 mm, the father of the pion howitzer, which we have, by the way, in the soviet union, they were just for that and are used, what is it like? it was an absolutely real military plan, that is, it is attacked with nuclear charges and troops enter there two hours later, so imagine what will happen if russia does this, well, i can’t rule it out, the charge is small in terms of power, russia detonates it somewhere, yes , on his territory, on the territory of belarus, by the way, lukashenko can play with this too. or over the black sea somewhere, what will happen in the world after that? the first shock, yes, that nuclear weapons, because no one has them since the time of japan, hiroshimo nagasaki, no one has seen this, and then the second shock will come, the world is left, yes,

that is, everyone is in a panic there in ukraine, in rostov, in russia, or further, even in moscow, in america, washington, everything is calm, or... even in madrid, and then it will simply be a disaster, a whole cascade of statements about nuclear weapons will immediately follow, this is a race, it will be 20 plus countries with nuclear weapons , immediately legalized, i i think israel will legalize, name what it has and so on, then pakistan, india, and the middle east, and germany, by the way, will start talking about it, as they will already discuss, that is, this is a scenario that, well, ... to no one, in principle, if you think about his benefit, then he is not suitable for anyone, but no one, and the paradox is that, i am sure, if he goes to this absolutely, well, terrible story, but stupid from the point of view

of the act, as you say, i don't rule it out, because the person is sick, it's just, well, how sick, there are such people, well , in russia, 30%, according to the data... even before the war were, 30% of the population have to one degree or another a disease of psychological disorder, and therefore this is definitely one of them, well, we have it too, let's be honest, especially now under stress, this is practice, but this disease, it is clearly ba, we see its elements, eh, but there is a chain, even tactical nuclear weapons, i asked those who used them in training during their time in the soviet union, so they say that... according to those rules , it was there are four people, according to strategic weapons, and four can be four or five chains of command, well, if it 's messed up, yes, either the fleet uses it, or it's a rocket from an aircraft, it's not just like that, it's

not just like that, there will be specific people who will do it, there will be intermediate people who give directly to putin or shaigu to give the command. it is theoretically possible, theoretically, so i am simply saying, if analyzed in this way, it will be an attempt to use weapons of mass destruction, well nuclear in this case, because russia is already trying to use chemical weapons, this will immediately raise a surge of escalation, well confrontation is a discussion, and will end the war, immediately, because then everyone will be afraid, and what will happen next, there will be no bombing immediately. b2s will fly in, they will destroy all russian positions completely, because no one wants to let a fool go with a club, that is , they are the way they are now, as long as ukraine holds back, and god forbid a nuclear explosion, you will see, there will be nothing left of these put everyone together, putin knows this very well, so

the probability of such a scenario is still small, why did he start doing it now, as if having some advantages on the front, yes, that is, now these... month, this is an interesting story, it probably coincides with some ideas this year sometime in the fall, there is pressure from all sides to achieve capitulation, that is , the chinese envoy is traveling now with such with ideas , he will freeze everything, that is, probably this plan was drawn up, where all this should be coordinated, and plus, plus there are also threats not to provide weapons, for example, they say f16 can carry food... i already said that peons they can also use nuclear weapons, even from tem-110 gabions american old woman, well, i am not an expert in this, but this is not a question, they are manipulating it, so it seems to me that

we will always hear all these words about the nuclear component, it is not addressed to us, not to the ukrainians, it is addressed to those who provide us with weapons, and we will always hear when russia gets worse, when they see that they have a resource. the other one is running out, another resource is large and china has influence in the world, and of course, china has nuclear potential, and xi jinping now. ends his tour of europe, for the first time in 5 years he would come to france, today or yesterday he met with orbán, and orbán said during a joint press conference with xi jinping that china is one of the pillars of the new world order and that hungary supports china's peace plan. let's listen now to what orban actually said. hungary is the only exception because it calls for

an immediate ceasefire and peaceful ceasefire and supports all international efforts to achieve peace. we also support the chinese peace initiative presented by xi jinping. which peace initiative is orban talking about, it is about those 12 points that were in the 23rd year, in february, i wanted to read to you, yes, well... you remembered correctly, because now we have this impression, something new, in fact, if you look at the message from the ministry of foreign affairs of china today, it is another tour of the envoy lihuey, who, you remember, first went to kyiv-moscow, brussels, then he had another tour, and now he has a tour of the middle east, brazil, egypt, saudi arabia, if i 'm not mistaken, the countries called well , that's the name of the global cock, well, the country where he can get an alternative, there

the european position, or the us position, or the peace formula of the president of ukraine, what is the essence of these 12 points, they are not new, this is february 24 , 2023, absolutely not new, but what i do not hear from the 12 points now sounds less. this is the lifting of sanctions, but something has quieted down a little bit, but i think that this point has also remained, although we hear it less now in the discussion, but everything else remains, what is the idea, the idea is that simply stopping will freeze the war on that at the moment, where the troops advanced, what is its base problem, it does not answer the question, what happens next when international law... is rejected, in the same way china agrees with the russian position that international law

is destroyed, but unlike the russian approach, there is a written recognition of sovereignty in the chinese position countries, well, that is, it is completely inconsistent, that is, recognizing the same position of ukraine and russia, completely ignoring who started it all, that is, simply from the point of view of danger for the whole world, and this is very, very dangerous. position, because it is not to what does it lead to, is it agreed with moscow, i am sure, it is agreed, she, the chinese, have spoken, now you will see what will happen, putin will go and report to beijing, this is the next period, he will be there, this departure is planned, vasala to suzorena, and he will say that such a plan will be put forward again, and maybe putin will say, i accept this plan, it is only ukraine that does not want to decide, but we even agree to your plan, which is absolutely beneficial to russia,

we are in that the very key, that is , russia understands that the peak of its conquests and opportunities, but now it comes there, well , not right now, depending on the situation, of course, we want it to be completely different, but they think that they can still advance for another two or three months, and here they are entrenched , seized and from... us without sanctions, without consequences, without compensation, just give it back and that's it, you know, it's something like, well, let's do it, there is, there is a house that robbers left, entered, neighbors are sitting there they are looking around, they are afraid of this situation, people are armed, they still closed somehow, but it will be expensive, i am i know the situation when on ships... i remember there were situations when our sailors were captured, you remember, pirates, when they were captured, and they were also

armed, well there with machine guns, that was the situation that the whole world wanted around will solve the issue, so that the money will be given to the owner, so that everything is fair to everyone, they will stop, the hostages will be released, and this is how they played with this story, by the way, an example that i did not give before, but it fits, every time they played with it , every time... then let's settle with these people with money terrorists, pirates, until the moment, you know, which moment, when they decided and allowed to hire with large-caliber machine guns. it is you who mention this whole story about somalia, yes , as soon as they took large-caliber machine guns , they put them on them, well, they hired private companies, black rock, there, all the rest , piracy ended, and this is an example, if such a large-caliber machine gun were put against russia, about 30 economies of the world would simply destroy them for two

years, there would be a million shells, yes, they would be divided if they wanted, not by shells, but by the entire economy. it is directly gazprom there he is now in the minus by 500, but he would be down completely, shares, all were removed, all countries or funds were removed from rosatom, from gazprom, by the way, everything was removed, so you know, this is such a story, if all this were to be reacted at once, how this is done in conditions where the second article of the un charter is violated, this is an embargo, all countries must apply the embargo, no one wants to. everyone wants to play such games, as a result we get this story, so until there is no such decisive action, unfortunately, this whole story is spinning, putin understands this, he he sees, that's why china, unfortunately, plays along with him, and i will tell you frankly, it is not worth expecting that china will suddenly become different, because

this situation is beneficial for china so far, although they are losing economically, but here is the visit of... to europe, the geography of this visit clearly places everything, well, you mean that it is not only to macron, but also to orban, well , me too, not that to macron, to europe, to europe, when there are visitors , who have not been there for 5 years, they go to brussels, they communicate, well, after all, europe has brussels, that is, this is the eu, yes, well, one country, there is france, well, but not with such a one. on a visit where such crumpled something incomprehensible cognac was given by macron for 300 dollars such a good, very good cognac but well, a hint that give us brandy not brandy cognac means french to enter china without those additional duties, well, this one said no , well, we too there we want electric cars

to enter, well, what is this about in the conditions when such a war is going on, that is, further. demonstratively in serbia , they bombed our building here 25 years ago, a gesture, well, hungary is also such an anti-gesture, here it is here is an example of how to work with china, just lie down with us, we will pump you a loan under state guarantees, then we will take you away, how china is expanding all over the world, i saw it even myself as the ambassador of these small caribbean countries antigua barbuda trennidat tepago antigua barbuda. the airport is a chinese investment, yes, there is a chinese port, a chinese main road, for chinese money under chinese control, what embassies are there in the country, chinese, american, russian, well, there are also neighboring countries, four or five embassies, everything is like that they are working, why don't they continue to do so, they already have the economy, the potential,

they are one belt, one road, one path, yes, what hungary has adopted, well, to europe. from china to europe, the so-called silk road, only in a slightly different way, no, one belt - one road - it's not even about geography, it's more about expansion, using economic methods, well, everything was going well for you, it was still going , you gradually took over the influence, which now attracted such, in fact, well, so powerful, yes in competition with the united states, i do not i know, it seems to me that this is a false start to china. and if, well, we are so from the side, they know the situation inside, or maybe the time has come when in china the middle class and this upper middle, you see what they did, they dispersed their business, the one that did not fall under the communist party, ali, these, these are all the campaigns and everything, which has been working for 12 years or how many years,

but he has already fled to japan, everyone scattered, those who do not obey, shot, put these businessmen in prison. that is, they have concentration camps, they have concentration camps part of china's territory, let's call a spade a spade, it pisses them off, because it's a reality, they're just a genocide there, nationality suits parts of the population, and they want to live in their own world, well, i'm sorry if you've already lived like that and you didn't like that they see it as a violation of human rights from the side, then why do you then impose the otaku model and use russia as a scapegoat. in order for the usa to reduce its influence in the world, and you yourself impose a model that is not unattractive to the whole world, who wants to go to work in china now, except any? here is an obstinate mask who thought something, but nothing was done, in the end, and there is an obstinate thinker in terms of ideas that it is possible

to get results in china by capitalist methods, so they don’t want to, productions from china are first transferred to the territory of free economic zones, hong kong is there in taiwan, then they flee to india, the chinese see it all, that on the one hand they want to be like maut zedun, and on the other hand they have to. after all, it will be developed as capitalism, someone from the americans once said, well, this kind of socialism is capitalist, it will not take off, well, they somehow dragged on until today, then it seems to me that these people rose up and they began to pose a threat to this regime in the way it was developing, and now they have come up with nothing else but to set the task of taking the first roles in education, sharing with america, the world is divided into two parts, showing force methods in taiwan is not very... a good scenario, and you have to understand it, so it is very difficult to count on the chinese to make a change somewhere and it will work, you can only influence there with the americans, for what

we need to calculate, then i will say, and i am sure of this, we need to make the response to this war, to the threats adequate to the level of these threats, what does this mean, it means that self-defense cannot be adequate against... the answer: when you is attacked by a nuclear state with the help of iranian weapons, north korean weapons, chinese equipment, pictures of chinese space campaigns, it is impossible, it should be a collective defense, as long as the country of our partners lacks the courage to enter this war, and such a moment will come, if, if of course they will not give it to russia. continue to impose your model in europe, this is the end of europe, if they do not surrender, then we will have to enter the war, not only with supplies of heimers, which are three, now

the germans will still buy from the usa, three heimers systems, 30 tanks, well, what are we talking about , on the kharkiv direction , 600 armored cars and 600 vehicles were transferred there today, that is, there are numbers, i don't know how reliable they are, well, they took such numbers there. 600 tanks, 800 cars, well, something like that, several hundred. we have 30 abrams, three additional installations, what are we talking about, a package of 400 million, now the new package is american, it sounds powerful, 400 million. missiles to patriot and bradley. bradley costs, well, i don't know at what price they include the package, but somewhere in the order of 3200 million. this is a rocket up to three. count, 40 missiles, there are 50 bradleys. well, it's not that, so putin will threaten until he gets an understanding of the readiness of a collective, forceful response. and

can there be some kind of unity, or at least the drawing of the contours of this unity at the global peace summit in switzerland, because there is a lot of talk about it, and zelenskyi says that this forum can be a chance to guarantee a just peace for ukraine and all of europe, and called that. of the upcoming summit, now we will hear what president zelensky said, putin is really afraid of the peace summit, he is afraid that the world majority will start forcing russia to make peace, that is why we need an absolutely clear position of every state, every leader, every international organization regarding participation in peace summit, regarding the support of our joint peace institutions. efforts, there are the first steps also regarding the humanitarian aspect, the exchange of all on everyone, the return of our children home, deported ukrainian men and women, and the important

moment of nuclear security is important for the whole world, also food security, mr. valery, if these are the main topics on which the ukrainian side and president zelenskyi are betting... will not be worked out and discussed at this global peace summit, will it not be such a disappointment for official kyiv, because it seems that for most of the participants of the global summit, well, it will be an exchange of opinions about something, and zelenskyy is talking about that this could be a chance to guarantee a just peace, well, don't we have such inflated expectations as we did at the july nato summit in... in vilnius, when we thought we would get an invitation there, or at least a guarantee of an invitation to north atlantic alliance? well, it seems to me that now there are no inflated expectations, what was it supposed to be? it is clear,

there should have been an international forum, a conference, a peace summit, whatever, which would reformat the international system, i.e. liquidate the un, well, as it happened at the time with the war, the league of nations, not you, did not fulfill its function, was dissolved, and then after the war, the un was created, that is, now it is obvious to everyone that the un does not work, why do we need to gather such large global summits, because the un does not work, not retbes does not work, not the un does not work, the charter does not work. in the basic issue it does not work, so it should be, well , russia is the aggressor, there are countries that do not recognize this system of international rules and international norms, syria, it is iran in part, well, iran has declared this, north korea, obviously, that is, well cuba, which is poor and it is not known where it is, although i have always treated cuba normally, but

she is somewhere... to the country you are normal to the people have become normal, but it turned out that she is constantly spinning somewhere in this list, and without these countries, everything else is being gathered and formed, which means a new organization with new rules, without enthusiastic since soviet times, russia has had seats in the un security council, but for such a model, china is needed, india is needed, well, brazil, south africa, and that's all, so... in principle, everything else, these will be, yes, these will be discussions, but even the very fact of supporting a large number of countries, in conditions, when russia initially tried to torpedo this story, they didn't come there, so to speak, and now i see, together with china, they are trying to blur the discussion there in order to offer their own peace formula, the chinese peace formula, and if they understand this story,

to show, yes, you have... ukraine-western countries have their own formula, and the global south has a different formula, to fulfill the russian role, yes, which is not invited to this salo, this is what they want, what will it lead to, well with from the point of view of the introduction of active hostilities this year does not lead to anything, everything will remain as it is, well, i see no reason, from the point of view of the impact on the future, we will see, i, well, i do not have inflated expectations. i think that if it is possible to at least have some new countries there, yes, who would say, well, we are at the mercy of ukraine and we will vote in the un, yes, this would already be a very good signal, and if it is possible , let's say, or get involved in a conversation about some lower-level plan, where to freeze the war, if others take advantage of it, it will be our failure, if we, we him, if...

planned this council, as a result it was used by china to promote these initiatives there, well, china has not yet agreed to participate, but again there is hungary, which can fulfill this role, and there will announce something about such a plan, so it seems to me, you know , it did not coincide in time, the delay of the weapons or the large-scale supply to ukraine, the delay that was created. to put it neatly diplomatically, for some reason everything coincided so that she was waiting for putin, yes, that he will have in six months, 7-8 opportunities to attack donetsk, to take donetsk-luhansk, and for some reason it coincided with many materials that i found in analytical centers, including american ones, that putin will still take donetsk-luhansk and something must be given to him, because he will not calm down. and

he did not manage to take the donetsk-luhansk region in these 6-7 months, he did not manage, but even after that, if it turned out that there was no way out, everyone understood where it could go next, and the process continued, the summit fell on time, it was planned in a completely different context, think about as if he was six months earlier in terms of the development of events, then the conversation of the ball was developing. barna, there is the second, third track, whatever, the month of december, the americans discussed with the russians, the russians really asked, they really wanted to record it, it was december last year, and they probably planned that the circumstances would turn out like this now, well, they did will not add up, because everything has changed, everything has been postponed for another six months to...