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an unusual look at the news, good health ladies and gentlemen, my name is mykola veresen, sharp presentation of facts and competent opinions. and in america they also say, let's have better roads, we will have even better ones. there will be some katsaps on the border of kyiv and beyond, which the world dreams of, well norman, we can imagine it, all this in the informational marathon with mykola veresny, saturday 5:10 p.m., sunday 6:15 p.m. at espresso. we return, and you donate, we remind you that you need to buy atvs, the guys from kholodny yar are waiting for them, because... unfortunately, sometimes we have to evacuate

the wounded. fortunately, there are ammunitions that need to be transported and atvs, actually all these atvs go faster and pass where a snag can get stuck, that is, a jeep, yes, that's what our military slang calls it, so this is a very important alternative, don't regret it, because these funds are invested correctly, no less correctly than, for example, fpv drones, for which we are always, or rather we are not, our defenders report to our ether. how it is used, it is all consumables, it is all needed together, well, in the meantime, we will talk about its values, because in fact, if in the urofin swamps, the descendants of the hordes go in line to sign up, because in their settlements, this is the only way , to earn money, that is, they are for prices, and we are fighting for values ​​and for our land, we will talk about values, because we have, in particular,... and the gongadze award, well

, accordingly, this is the kind of award with which independent journalists are awarded, this is a young award, literally 5 years ago in in the 19th year, it was founded by the ukrainian pen, together with the kyiv-mohyla business school, and it is about values, it is when there are temptations, on the one hand, the government wants to buy you, on the other hand, to intimidate the security forces, on the other hand , you they will try to ... dream that you will be like a syroga, and we will pay you a lot, and then you will sit in ukrzaliznytsia and spin discos in moscow. in a word, there are many temptations, by the way, why i mentioned him, because ukrainian truth was founded by our colleague, my friend, george gongadzen, and he was definitely not thought that he would receive a prize named after him, why is he celebrating, why is this prize awarded on may 21, it is actually the birthday of georgy gongadze, and that's why it's the closest. the other day,

literally 10 days from today, we will find out who is this year's winner, but we have the names of three finalists, and one of them, and with us, is tetyana trushchynska, the finalist of the award. gongady of the 24th year, director of the department of strategic analysis and development of socially influential content of public broadcasting and host of radioculture. ms. tatyana, congratulations. i congratulate you. mrs. tatiana, is it easy to go, for example, to the finals of this award, knowing that real democrats are considering this, as it were now, well, to close the mouth of that public broadcaster, or maybe throw them out. from that one marathon, maybe it’s just the people of medvedchuk who drove and work there, something social doesn’t work like that, according to standards it works, why do we have broadcasters, but with such attitudes as you go to this gongadze award, in the background those events?

no, well, i'll tell you the truth that i'm in a completely different mood, because firstly, public is a great institution that works, and i hope that it will work. ah, that goes without saying, secondly, it is clear that part of the audience may have questions about the marathon and part of the audience may have questions about how long the marathon can already be on the air for two, three, or four years, maybe we should to revise this approach somewhat, and maybe we need to change something, for example, so in fact there is nothing strange in these discussions, these discussions are absolutely normal, and i am not talking about discussions, i am talking about threats. you know that these were threats review budgeting, apply administrative resources, public services have never been financed as much as they should have been financed, and it seems that this fact is known to absolutely everyone, and the fact that the reform

of public services can cause some questions among people who do not understand what is is the work really up to standards, or does it harm, and does it seem that it... harms some political forces, then in fact there is no news either, but this has nothing to do with the award, because i have been working for the public for three months, and the award concerns individual journalists, and democracy concerns the whole country, ms. tatiana, but in fact it is for all that you, as a fellow journalist, have done, as they say, by yourself, and it is you who honors you to be a candidate. for the award, and anna babinets and olga rudenko are also nearby , well, we don't know, the intrigue persists, and if you were the head of this jury panel, who would you be, for example, you are not among the finalists, there are anna babinets and olga rudenko,

well, accordingly, who would you give the prize to if you were the head of the jury, and there is no head of the jury, i think, they just say that in imagination, that is, your if there was a voice, listen, why? we will imagine what is not there. if we talk about journalism, then we work with reality, not with someone who imagines something. there is no chief jury. the value of this award is not that the chairman of the jury gives something to someone, but the value of this award is that there is a chapter, that is, it is people who vote by rating voting, so whoever they vote for is the right one. it seems to me that this is their choice, this is the first moment. now, as for anna and olga, i would have a very... difficult choice, but i would a very difficult choice, if i was a member of any relevant commission and all the previous years of this award, therefore, the value here is that it is discussed, that people present their arguments and then a decision is made,

so to choose anna or olga, well, from my on the one hand, it would be at least strange, panian, but i will come from the other side, let's not choose, but in general, the circumstances in which they work now... journalists are not the easiest and one by one, one of the criteria for awarding this award is actually for innovation, not just when it's from above something flies, when there are constantly different restrictions, some prohibitions, a bunch of different accreditations and permits, and don't write there, because it's almost treason there, actually, as far as you think, according to your observations, now ukrainian. analytics is actually innovative, to the extent that our colleagues find ways, ways to show what is really happening and convey this socially significant information to people in various ways. well, let's not lie to our audience that there were times

in the last 30 years when in ukrainian journalism was too good to work. i have been in journalism for a very long time, i remember very well 2003 and 2004 and 2022. the 23-24 years are distinguished only by the fact that we work during a full-scale war, very complex, yes, when we work under great pressure and threat. connected with security, and as for whether one or another government liked or disliked journalism, it was a long time, and there were times when journalists were killed, that's all, if we're talking about the person in whose name the this award, that, then you need to understand these circumstances and to talk about it, both before and in the 2000s, the threats to the lives of journalists were huge, and this is all obvious. and obviously, obvious things, as far as innovation is concerned, it 's hard for me to say really what

the organizers and founders of this award put in, because some of these questions that you 're asking me, i should ask them, innovation, maybe that's another look, maybe these are other genres, other formats, some such other things, but here the question is not even innovativeness, here the question is how much we understand our responsibility, here the question is how much we understand our responsibility to. by the audience, including for what we tell them, including for fact-checking, including for being able to work on a very delicate balance, and we often ask ourselves these questions, and this is such an important moral dilemma, this delicate balance between being able to check fact and truth and between understanding that when a country is in a full-scale war, our every word can be used in... including enemy, and because we are talking with you now about such an important part as some certain

pressure, or as some things that are happening inside the country in domestic politics, but we should not forget that our biggest enemy, and the biggest pressure that we feel, it's during the war, it's from russia, and that's why this work, when you try to find this shaky border, this is really something that probably, well, maybe not fully realized by our western colleagues, right? because it is very difficult, and we are working out this standard, this approach literally, literally in front of my eyes, yes, but it seems to me that this is a smaller challenge than, for example, a moral dilemma, which i have the right to name very clearly for myself, because we were friends together, he acted very clearly, if he saw goano's substance, he called it that, and if someone with medvedchuk's dungeon was running on the side. and shouted something about kuchma , it is impossible to talk like that, he said, and therefore in this case, when we are currently working in the media

field, where on the one hand, uh, telegram channels are pressing, which act as sewers of fakes and serve certain offices of the powerful, and with on the other hand, our colleagues work, who never said anything for nothing, sorry, i prevented many things for this aggression, worked. to the russian peace, to the moscow priests, to the victory demon, i lied to you, and now i want to have a lot of money from the budget and work, for example, on a single marathon and continue to tell you the truth, how the armed forces of ukraine have encircled khabarivsk and are attacking vladivostok, here it seems to me that the dilemma is much more complicated, well, i don't have this dilemma, i don't have this dilemma, yes, because i... believe that some people, who are currently working and pretend that

nothing happened and nothing happened until the 22nd year, they shouldn't do that, but here it is probably a matter of journalistic circles, how far we talk about it, you see, we we've been talking about it for probably 20 years, we didn't, we talked about it in these environments, it didn't happen, yes, and now we see that and we... separate, to be honest , certain names that we invite somewhere, or we don't invite, we as journalists look at who to invite to us and who we are considered experts, we started to have ratings, or anti-ratings, and let's call it that, people who should not be considered experts at certain points, because they clearly worked for certain political forces, and this all exists . it already exists, and we talk about it, we call these surnames, you say it now, i

say it now, ugh, so i see a certain development in this, very slow, mrs. tatyana, thank you for your answers, thank you for your vision and thank you for the fact that we have people in this country, our colleagues, who, actually worthy of such awards, thank you for having someone to choose from, tatyana troshchynska was with us, the finalist of the award giorgiia gongaze after several. all worthy people are for the gongadze award, well, we are. we promise you right away, of course, that we will communicate with everyone in one way or another on our airwaves so that you can see these people and hear their thoughts in these rather difficult times for ukraine, in fact exactly 10 days from today, may 21, through in 10 days, we will find out who is the winner

of this just to tell the audience, and that's a lot good, because we will actually be interested, too, and we will... in the topic, as they say, we will orient ourselves, what is it about, by the way, in previous years, in different periods, the laureates of this award were vakhtan kipiani, pavlo karazin, also myroslava barchuk, in the 22nd year, two years ago, yevhen maloletka and mstislav chernov received this award at the same time, and we can see that after such recognition in ukraine, chernov has gone much further and is already bringing much higher awards. also from hollywood, in particular. we take a short break, we promise you an exclusively interesting live guest, but it's a little later while we, we take a break, you continue to contribute for our guys and defenders on the quad.

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say that they are working in an intensified mode, the evacuation of more than 300 people is ongoing, but it is precisely in these front-line territories, and sinyohobov already made a statement that there are grounds for announcing the evacuation from kharkiv well not at all, the evacuation is carried out from the vovchan community, that is, it is where there is the most shooting, the rbc and the legion from where they are shooting, where it is dangerous, that is, the evacuation is actually taking place from the front-line and border areas, where it is dangerous, and kharkiv, kharkiv is holding on, and that is wonderful , and we thank our armed forces for this, a certain line of defense has actually been built around kharkov for the third year of the war, and now we will tell you how wise people do it, wise people, for example, they do not fight either with belarus or with russia , but already on the border with belarus with russia, poland is building a line of defense, barriers and other engineering works, they are building there, now they are negotiating with farmers who

have their plots, shares not far from the borders, they are negotiating, because state security is much more important in reality than certain plots, and the plot can be replaced somewhere else people learn, as my uncle always said, wise people learn from other people's mistakes, stupid people learn from their own, fine, but we also want to tell you about something else, because for... lately, nato and france have also become objects of such fake and disinformation campaigns, just like ukraine. an extreme story, which, by the way, is spreading on the internet, apparently from ukraine, repatriates the bodies of nato soldiers. well, yes, well, we heard it in the 14th, now it is active, but now for france, who is behind these rumors that spread on the x social network, which was once called twitter, colleagues from franc24 investigated, let's see. catalyna marchant dabu

is already near the plasma, some users claim that the bodies of nato soldiers are being repatriated from ukraine. catalina, tell us the truth and dispel the rumours. this is quite surprising, considering that there is no evidence of nato ground forces participating in active hostilities in ukraine, and yet there is some benefit. and most of them are supposedly french. the user kamila moskva goes into the details of these rumors. she claims that on the night of april 19, russia carried out a series of deadly strikes, hitting a hotel where soldiers and officers of the ukrainian army, as well as foreigners, were staying. mostly french, who were later repatriated. as proof, the website professiondarm.com, which purports to be a publication

of the military police, published an article that repeats the above narrative on ex. about the fact that hundreds of coffins with the bodies of nato soldiers, mostly french, were repatriated from ukraine. something familiar here smells, doesn't it? who is behind these rumors spreading on the social network x. in fact, these rumors are based on the speculations of a circle of language theorists who first appeared in the united states, led by the american conspiracy theorist harold turner, who published on his website on april 20 hal turner's radio show has the same title. therefore, information and... photos were later published in false statements in french, which we saw somewhat later on the platform of aix on april 29. this information

was also shared by a famous french conspiracy theorist who is known to often spread conspiracy theories and fake news. and of course, this story is also related to the russian propaganda website pravda. recently , nato and france. can you explain to us why? that's right, here are two more examples of this type of disinformation directed at nato and its ukrainian allies, such as france and the us, where users claim to show drone footage of us military aid heading to ukraine, when in fact the video shows vehicles deployed as part of a nato operation in eastern europe. in addition... a video has appeared in which users falsely claim that they will publish evidence of the arrival of french troops in odesa, although it actually shows polish troops

on the territory of poland. along with the debunked claims, this is all part of a wider disinformation campaign aimed at to make people believe that nato troops, particularly those of its ukrainian allies, including france, great britain and the united states, are already in ukraine. and all this started after the statements of emmanuel macron in february, when he said that he does not rule out the possibility of introducing western ground troops into ukraine. he made his statements recently. confirmed in an interview with the economist, published a few days ago. all this is also a reaction to david cameron's comments that he made last week in kyiv, namely that ukraine has the right and will use weapons supplied by great britain against russia. the kremlin was quick to react and announced the holding of nuclear exercises, referring to so-called provocations by

france and great britain. usa, which russia considers ready for direct confrontation. thank you very much, catalino, for this edition of the truth or fake column. here we are back, we see that now the alarm map in the east and southeast is expanding, there is a threat of ballistics and aviation, but... can we look at this war from one side, only from our side, because, for example, the enemy is also very attentive today watched in three russian regions, and for this, in order to even evaluate them, i always monitor what they write, but it’s just interesting how they present it, in fact it was also a combined attack, because there were good drones, why is it important always on to give them, well, in principle, a certain, as they

say, reagent. artillery, this is something new in our application, but this is what we talked about with the military, an asymmetric strategy, and accordingly, these regions are much further than now. putin said to draw some kind of buffer zone in kharkiv oblast, in a word, the buffer zone can also be answered with a buffer zone, but yes, actually, and it will actually be a symmetrical response, and by the way, this is actually the creation of a buffer zone... fly, good drones on the other side of the border, this is one of the ways to prevent the russians from entering our territory, because when we see that they are advancing, the military themselves say that it is necessary to make it so that they do not want to go, here is a little artillery work, and they are already stopping, that time they managed to enter a little, we hope that it will actually be like this - so they came in and came out, well, that's what they actually say our armed forces, that these are

simply border forces. oleksandr pivnenko says that in fact the ffok operators have already destroyed heaps of everything, except for one loaf of bread, one beam, two enemy cars, our military says that they don't even take away their dead, so there it is, i'm looking at it now.

in fact, it is already known and seen who was taken away by the ambulances and so on. it was there just then that all the collaborators and russians were gathering, so that in a big kipish of the ambulances they write, well , how can you see one and the same cotton in different ways, meanwhile we we will to communicate live with a guest of our studio , a poet and spokesman visited us? spokesman of the ministry of defense dmytro lazutkin, i am glad to welcome you, dmytro, my congratulations, dmytro, glory to ukraine, and let's start, we have already talked about a lot today, we will not ask you about kharkiv, but we will ask you about what is needed at the front, we will talk about mobilization, about people, because we are collecting fpvs, atvs, we can buy them, we cannot buy people, and we need to clarify what will happen from may 18.