were in the union for that and it is used, that as it is used, it was an absolutely real military plan, that is, it is attacked with nuclear charges and troops enter there two hours later, so imagine what will happen if russia does this, well, i can’t do that to rule out, russia detonates it somewhere, even on its own territory. on the territory of belarus, by the way, lukashenko can play with this too, or over the black sea somewhere, what will happen in the world after that, the first shock, yes, that nuclear weapons, because no one has seen it since the time of japan, hirasimo on hasaki, no one has seen it, and then the second shock will come, the world is left, yes, that is, everyone is in a panic, there in ukraine, in rostov in russia or further afield, even in moscow.

everything is calm in america, washington, or even in madrid, and then it will simply be a disaster, immediately there will be a whole cascade of statements about nuclear weapons, this is a race, there will be 20 plus countries with nuclear weapons, they will legalize immediately, i think israel will legalize, name that he has and so on, then pakistan, india and the middle east, and so on germany, by the way, will start talking about it, as it already... says, that is, it is such a scenario that, well, no one, in principle, if you think about its benefit, then it does not suit anyone, well, no one, and the paradox is that , i'm sure if he will commit to this absolutely, well, terrible story, but stupid from the point of view, as you say, i don't rule it out, because the person is sick, just, well, how sick, there are such people. well, in russia, 30%,

according to data that existed even before the war, 30% of the population have at one or another level of illness, psychological disorders, and that is why this for sure one of them, well, we also have it, let's be honest, especially now under stress, it's practice, but this disease, it's clear, we see its elements, but there is a chain, even tactical nuclear weapons, i asked those , who used it in training. at one time in the soviet union, so they say that according to those rules it was five people, according to strategic weapons, and four can be four or five chains of command for, well, if it's bad, yes, or the fleet uses, or it is a missile from an airplane, it's not just like that, it's not just like that, there will be specific people who will do it, there will be intermediate people who will... give

putin or shaigu the command? it is theoretically possible, theoretically, so i simply claim, if analyzed in this way, it will be an attempt to use weapons of mass destruction, well , nuclear in this case, chemical weapons, russia is already trying to use them, this will immediately raise a surge of escalation, well, confrontation, or discussion, and will end the war, right away, because then everyone will be scared and... what will happen next? there won't be any further the b-2 bombers will fly in and destroy all the russian positions, because no one wants to let a fool go with a club later, that is, they are the way they are now, as long as ukraine holds back, and god forbid a nuclear explosion, you will see, there will be nothing left here from all these teams, and putin knows it very well, so the probability of such a scenario is still small, why did he start doing it now?

sort of having some advantages on the front, yeah, so now these months, it's an interesting story, i guess it syncs up with some ideas in this year, somewhere in the autumn , they are pressing from all sides to achieve capitulation, that is , the chinese envoy is traveling now with such ideas, he will freeze everything and stop it, that is , it must have been a plan, where all this must be coordinated, well, plus, plus more threats not to provide weapons, for example, they say, f-16 can carry nuclear weapons, i already said that peons can also use nuclear weapons, even from the topics 1110 of the american old lady, well, i am not an expert in this, but that is not the question, they manipulate it, so it seems to me that we will always hear all these words about the nuclear component, it is not addressed to us, not to the ukrainians, it is addressed to those who provide us with weapons, and we will always... hear when russia becomes worse,

when they see that their other resource is running out, another resource is large and china has influence in the world, and understandably so. china has a nuclear potential, and xi jinping is now finishing his tour of europe, he came for the first time in 5 years, because in france, today or yesterday, he met with orban, and here is orban said during a joint press conference with xijing pinni that china is one of the pillars of the new world order and that hungary supports china's peace plan. let's listen now to what orban actually said. europe today is on the side of war. hungary is the only exception because it calls for an immediate ceasefire and peace talks and supports all international efforts to achieve peace. we also support

the chinese peace initiative presented by xi jinping. what kind of peace initiative is orbán talking about, these are the 12 points that... yes, i wanted to read it to you, yes, you remembered correctly, because now we have this impression, something new, in fact, if you look at the message at the ministry of foreign affairs of china today, it is another tour of the envoy lihui, who, as you remember, went to kyiv at first , moscow, brussels, then he had another tour, and now he has a tour of the middle east, brazil, egypt, if i am not mistaken, the countries of the so-called, well, the name of the global south, countries where he can get an alternative european position there whether there is a us position or peace formula of the president of ukraine, what is the essence of these 12

points, they are not new, they are on february 24 , 2023, they are absolutely not new, but... what i don't hear from the 12 points now sounds less, it's the lifting of sanctions, that's a little something so quieted down, but i think that this point also remained, although we hear it less now in conversation, but everything else remains, what is the idea, the idea is that it will simply stop, freeze the war at the moment where the troops advanced, in why is her basic problem, she... does not answer the question, what next, when international law rejected, in the same way, china agrees with the russian position that international law has been destroyed, but unlike the russian approach, there is a written recognition of the sovereignty of ukraine in the chinese position, that is, it

is completely inconsistent, that is, the recognition of the same position of ukraine and russia, completely ignoring , who started it all, that is, simply from the point of view of danger to the whole world. and this is a very, very dangerous position, because it does not lead to anything, whether it is agreed with moscow, i am sure, it is agreed, it the chinese have spoken, now you'll see what will happen, putin will go and report to beijing, here's the next period, he'll be there, he'll be planning this trip, it's fun for suzoren, and he'll say, there will be such a plan again, and maybe... he'll say : i and we accept this plan, only ukraine does not want to decide anything, but we even agree to your plan, which is absolutely beneficial to russia, are in the same vein, that is , russia understands that the peak of its conquests and opportunities now falls there , well, not

right now, depending on the situation, of course, we want it to be completely different, but they think that in two or three months they can still advance, yes. and here they got a foothold, seized it, and give it to us, without sanctions, without consequences, without compensation, just give it back and that's it, you know, it's something like well, well, let's do it, there is, there is a house that the robbers entered, entered, they are sitting there, the neighbors around are watching, they are afraid of this situation, people are armed, they still closed somehow, but well... it will be expensive, i know the situation when the courts, i remember, there were situations when they were closed our sailors, remember, when the pirates captured, yes, the same weapons, well, there with machine guns, that was the situation, that they wanted the whole world around to solve the issue, to give the money to the owner there, so that everything

was fair to everyone, to stop, the hostages were released, and that's how they played with this story, by the way, an example i didn't give before. but he fits, every time they played with all this, every time there, let's pay with money with these terrorists, pirates, until the moment, you know, which moment, when they decided... and allowed to hire from large-caliber machine guns, well, you mention this whole story about somalia, yes, as soon as they took large-caliber machine guns , they put them on them, well, they were hired by private companies, black rock, there are others, piracy is over, and this is an example, if such a large-caliber machine gun was placed against russia these are the 30 economies of the world that i would simply divide them into pieces in two years, what a million shells there are... i would divide them if i wanted not by shells, but by the entire economy at once. gazprom is now down by

500, but it would have gone down completely, the shares were all taken out, all countries or funds were removed from rosatom, from gazprom, by the way, everything was removed, so you know, this is such a story, if it were all to react at once, as is done in conditions when the second article of the charter is violated. he is an embargo, all countries should apply an embargo, no one wants to, everyone wants to play such games, as a result we get this story, so until there is such a decisive action, unfortunately, this whole story is spinning, putin understands this, he sees it, that's why he china, unfortunately, will play along with him, and i will tell you frankly, they expect that china will suddenly become different, it is not worth it, because this situation is beneficial for china for now, although they... economically, but here is sydzenpin's visit to europe, the geography of this visit clearly

sets everything up, well, you mean that he is not only to macron , and to orban, well, to me too, frankly speaking, not that not only to macron, to europe, to europe, when they go, visitors who haven’t been for 5 years, they go to brussels, they communicate, well, that’s all - after all, europe has brussels, that is, it is the eu, cenator, yes, well... you are one country, there is france, well, but not with such a visit, where there is such a crumpled something incomprehensible, cognac was given by macron, for 3,000 dollars, so good, very good, but a hint that give us brandy, not brandy, but cognac, so it is french, so that entered china without those additional duties, well, this one said no, well, we also want electric cars to enter there, well , what is this about? in the conditions when such a war is going on, i.e., further demonstratively bombed

our building here 25 years ago in serbia, a gesture, well , such an anti-gesture, and so is hungary, here is an example of how to work with china, just lie down with us, we will pump you a loan under state guarantees, then we will take you away, how china is expanding all over the world, i saw it even myself as a small ambassador. these are caribbean countries antigua barbuda antigua barbuda airport chinese investments yes there is a chinese port chinese main road for chinese money under chinese control what embassies are there in the country chinese american russian well there are also neighboring countries four or 5% everything everything is like that why do they work they don't do that anymore, they already have the economy , the potential, they have one belt, one path, one path, yes. what hungary has adopted, well, to europe, from china to europe, the so-called

silk road, only in a slightly different way, no, one belt - one road - it's not even about geography, it's more about expansion, by economic methods, well , everything was going well for you, it was still going, you gradually gained influence, which now attracted such, in fact, such powerhouses, yes in competition. to the states, i don't know, to me, it seems to me that this is a false start in china, and if, well we are so from the side, they know the situation inside, and maybe the time has come when in china the middle class and this upper middle, you see what they have done, they have expanded their business, the one that did not fall under the communist party, but here this is all the company and everything, who has been working there for 12 years or how many years, but he has already fled to japan, everyone has run away, who is not under his command. shot, imprisoned these businessmen, that is

, they have concentration camps, they have concentration camps on part of the territory of china, let's call a spade a spade, it pisses them off, because it's reality, they're just there genocide, nationality suits parts of the population, and they want to live in their own world, well, i'm sorry, if you've already lived like that and you didn't like that they see it as a violation of human rights, then why do you then impose... that model and you use russia as a torpedo in order to reduce the influence of the usa in the world, and you yourself impose a model that is not unattractive to the whole world. who wants to go to work in china now? except for some obsessive mask who thought something, well , nothing was done in the end and thinks there obsessively in terms of ideas, what is possible in china to get a result by capitalist methods, it means that they do not want production from china to move first to the territory of free economic zones, hong kong is there in

taiwan, then they flee to india, the chinese see all this, that on the one hand it is like mazon, and on the other hand it is still necessary to develop it like capitalism, once some americans said, well, this kind of socialism is capitalist, it will not take off, well, they dragged it somehow until today, then it seems to me that these people rose up, and they began to pose a threat to this regime in such a way the keys, how it developed, and now they have come up with nothing else but to set the task of entering the first roles of education, to divide the world into two parts with america. to show force methods in taiwan is not a very good scenario, and you have to understand that, so it is very difficult to count on the chinese to change something and it will work, there you can only influence with the americans, what do we have to count on, then i will say, and i am sure of this, we need to make the response

to this war on threats adequate to the level of these threats, what does that mean, does that mean that... self-defense cannot be an adequate response when you are attacked by a nuclear state with the help of iranian weapons, north korean weapons, chinese equipment, pictures of chinese space companies is impossible, it must be collective defense, as long as the country lacks the courage of our partners to enter this war, and such a moment will come. if, of course, they do not allow russia to continue to impose its model in europe, this is the end of europe, if they do not give it, then it will be necessary to enter the war, not only with supplies of hymers, which three, now the germans will still buy from the usa, three heimers systems, 30 tanks, well, what are we talking about, in the kharkiv direction

, today they transferred 600 armored vehicles there, 600. that is, there are numbers, i don’t know how much they are reliable, well, there are such numbers, there are 600 tanks, 800 vehicles, well, something like a few hundred, we have 30 abrams, three additional installations, what are we talking about, a package of 400 million, now the new package is american, it sounds powerful, 400 million, missiles to patriot and bradley, bredley costs, well, i don't know at what price they are include a package, but somewhere in the order of 3.200 million, it is a rocket to three gunpowder. 40 missiles, there are 50 bradleys, well, it’s not that, so putin will threaten until he receives an understanding, the readiness of a collective, forceful response, and whether there can be some kind of unity, or at least the drawing of the contours of this unity at the global peace summit in

switzerland , because there is a lot of talk about it and zelenskyi says that this forum can become a game chance. a just peace for ukraine and all of europe, and named the topics of the upcoming summit, now we will hear that said president zelensky. putin is really afraid of the peace summit, he is afraid that the world majority will start forcing russia to make peace. that is why we need an absolutely clear position of every state, every leader, every international organization regarding participation in the summit. regarding the support of our joint peacekeeping efforts, there are also the first steps regarding the humanitarian aspect of the exchange of all for all, the return of our children home, deported ukrainians, women of the country, and the important point of nuclear security is important for the whole world, as well as food security,

of security, mr. valery, if these are the main topics... on which the ukrainian side and president zelensky are betting, will not be worked out and discussed at this global peace summit, will it not be such a disappointment for official kyiv, because , well, such an impression that for most of the participants of the global summit, well, it will be an exchange of opinions about something, and zelenskyi says that it can be a chance to guarantee a just peace, well, don't we have such ... higher expectations, as it was at the july summit nato in vilnius, when we thought we would get an invitation there, or at least a guarantee of an invitation to the north atlantic alliance? well, i think it's too much now. there are no expectations that it should have been ideal, it is clear, there should have been an international forum, a conference, a peace summit, whatever, which would reformat the international

system, i.e. liquidate the un, well, as it happened at the time with the war, the league of nations, not you, it did not fulfill its function, it was dissolved and then after the war the un was created, that is , now it is obvious to everyone that it does not work, why should to gather such large global and summits because it... doesn't work, not retbes doesn't work, not the un doesn't work, the charter doesn't work, in the basic issue it doesn't work, that's why it had to be, well, russia is the aggressor, there are countries, which do not recognize this system of international rules and international norms, syria is partly iran, well, iran has declared it, north korea is obvious, that is, well, cuba, which is poor and it is not known where it is, although. i have always treated cuba normally, but she is there for the country, you are normal, i treated the people normally, but it just so happened that she is spinning somewhere there constantly on this list, and without these countries, everything

else is being assembled and formed, which means a new organization with new rules, without a place like that, occupied by russia since soviet times, but for such a model we need china, we need india, well, brazil... well, well that's all, so in principle everything else will be yes, there will be discussions, but even the very fact of supporting a large number of countries in conditions when russia initially tried to torpedo this story, well, if it didn't happen, they wouldn't come there, and now i see together with china, they are trying to blur there discussion to offer if your formula for peace, rush. to fulfill the russian

role, yes, which is not invited to this site, this is what they want, what will it lead to, well, from the point of view of this year, conducting active hostilities will not lead to anything, everything will remain as it is, well, i see no reason , in terms of impact on the future uh... we'll see, i, well, i, i don't have high expectations, i think that if we can at least have there, well, some new countries, yes, which would say, yes, well, we are on the side of ukraine, and we will vote in the un, yes, it would already be a very good signal, and if it succeeds, say, or they get involved in a conversation about some lower-level plan, where to freeze the war, if others take advantage of it ... it will be our failure if we, we him, if , planned this council, as a result it was used by china to torpedo these initiatives there, well, china has not yet agreed to

participate, but again there is hungary, which can fulfill this role, and there will announce something about such a plan, so it seems to me that it you know, it didn't coincide in time, the delay with the weapon, that's in large-scale... supplies to ukraine, the delay that was created, how to put it neatly diplomatically, for some reason everything coincided so that it lay in wait for putin, yes, that he will have in six months, seven or eight the opportunity to attack donetsk, take donetsk-luhansk, and for some reason it coincided with many materials that i found in analytical centers, including american ones, that putin will still take donetsk-luhansk. and something must be given to him, because he will not calm down, and he did not manage to take in these 6-7 months donetsk-luhansk region, i did not make it, but

even after that, if it turned out that there was no way out, everyone understood where it could go, and the process continued, the summit fell on time, it was planned in a completely different context, think about it like this , if it had been six months earlier, from the point of view of the development of events, then the backstage conversation developed, there was a second, third track, whatever, the month of december, the americans discussed with the russians, the russians really asked, they really wanted to record it, it was december last month year, and they probably planned that the circumstances would turn out like this now, well, they will not turn out like this, because everything has changed, everything has shifted by another six months to even more, or six... count 9 months from this summit and that would be the date of a possible summit

is on those. the expectations that were then, then, therefore, the result will already be positive for us diplomatically, if we maintain attention to russian aggression, you see what is happening, russia has already removed the issue, they are hitting our facilities civilians already all this is not discussed, as if, well, well , they beat and beat, yes, this is a disaster, as soon as this is translated into an ordinary conflict in everyone's mind. between the two countries, which have struck a deep blow to international law, the chinese are saying that russia has been violating it for several years, they hit it, listen, but where, but where, they close their eyes, well, they are telling their theory there, which is not wrong is worth it, everyone perfectly understands the image of china, and in those countries that want chinese influence, it will grow there, in countries that understand

the situation, well, i think. that after this attitude to china in ukraine, it is clear what will be after such a position, although we still have a strategic partnership in the document, with whom? with those who are now helping to kill ukrainians, who turn a blind eye to violations of international law, do not call russia an aggressor, what are we talking about, so of course china will no longer build or invest money in ukraine, and maybe, thank god, on their terms , and will try to invest in hungary, yes, well, not invest. if it was, they give credit and then take it away everything, that is why we must understand, we will not sit on the fence, we must work now with those who help us, well, it is very simple, who are helping us now in the war, really and in large volumes, these are our partners, as it turned out, who have interests, but in fact we need to look at real actions, well, that is, the united states of america, great britain, france, germany,

who is in our country, well... all the neighbors, yes, and half and northern countries are also european, also very active, absolutely, scandinavian countries, i will say that they surprised me this time, very much surprised the netherlands, denmark, denmark, yes, yes, what kind of denmark, dachans in general take warehouses, transfer the netherlands, remember how they were skeptical about the european way, and our way there, and now this is the approach, everyone understood that this is a small europe. european security, it must be protected all together, has woken up, gradually europe is waking up, i would like to see more, of course, something italy faltered a little, although there was a inauguration, i understand that they, they must have been there or not, statements minister of defense, i was a little bit wary of italy, because he was such a supporter of ours, a serious one, and it got to the point that

the russians compromised him, as they wanted to do, but he had everything politically in history, but now he says that it is difficult, it is difficult to win, it is difficult, but if to break this history, which is difficult, now it is very difficult, first of all for the ukrainians, but they also have such a pause, you know, a decision is already being made, let's build it up, we already understand, we are not going anywhere, we need to produce weapons, we need everything, that's it it is necessary to do, but there is still hope there is, or maybe there is a stage... this one is like this, you know, when, when the decisive action comes, it comes before when everyone starts to get tired and expect the end, and then there comes, or so-and-so, so-and-so the end, which no one is comfortable with in terms of development, but the conclusion, or something like that, is happening so that it is just brought to a logical end, so everyone

is focused on the elections in the united states. november 5, well, count november 5 plus a few months, for some reason until february, i understand until the inauguration before the swearing-in the new president, well, there is january 20, but the question is not that, i think that this is an exaggeration, just in the heads of people, well, people, the presidents have this date of november 5, the elections in the united states, or it could be anything whatever, the situation may change, we did not expect an attack on israel there, but there for example, it affected the situation, the same could happen here, so we have to hold on, unfortunately, the situation is such that we cannot we can expect drastic changes on our side from this summit, but it also lays certain foundations for the future another short topic, just these days the president of the european parliament, roberta metzola, visited ukraine and held a press conference in kyiv.