case in a completely different direction, and pretend to be peacekeepers, i think that we need, we really need to keep a common line with our strategic partners, because this is the most important moment, well, now many people are starting to talk about what, well, we need now drop everything and go to the countries of the south and convince them, well, we will convince them... we know, they will vote at the next session of the general assembly another resolution, which, unfortunately, is not binding. i don't think we need that right now spend time and effort, keep a common front with our western partners, get as many weapons and financial aid as possible and only in this way shape the agenda of any

next peace conference, everything else, and yet, why china first after that , after the inauguration, why would putin go to the leader, the head of china, this is such a challenge to the carpet, you can say, does the head of the people's republic of china want to share what he returned from europe? well, you know this seed from the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, the head of the russian research center was with us. let's continue this topic, by the way, related to china, with a conversation with maria oleksya, a journalist, graduate editor on one of the french television channels, congratulations mrs. maria, congratulations, well, let's already be able to summarize these results of this visit of sidzempino to france , it was such an important visit they were preparing for him, macron even invited sidzempino to the house of his grandparents, so in the pyrenees, it was clear that it was important. for the president

of france, for the president of the people's republic of china, and what is the result? the result is very half-baked, and i think that macron is simply still over-relying on his personal ability to convince someone with his own charm, or some of these personal details, like the really surreal invitation to the pyrenees, where yodzinpin was even given a blanket from the pyrenees wool and many more gifts, and before that, let me remind you that the elysian... at the official dinner there was sophie marceau, a very famous actress in china, there was luc besson, there was even salmahaek with her husband, who owns a number of luxury brands in france, that is, this red carpet was rolled out to the maximum and it looked a little surreal, and reminded, you know , how macron received putin in breganson in august 2019, this is the official summer residence of the french presidents, where the hell... pass through

a very narrow circle of friends, politicians, it was in august during macron's vacation, and this visit by ding pin reminded me very much of such a déjà vu, absolutely unhealthy, this visit of putin, and there was another one, by the way, in 2017 in versailles, when macron showed putin paintings, there are several photos where they are walking along these corridors, and macron still believes that he can somehow charm, convince with these personal details, a personal approach. people like putin. and history repeats itself again with xi jing ping. macron seems not to learn from his mistakes and thinks that by applying the same technique, the same methods, he can achieve some result, but he does not understand that it does not work that way with these leaders of these world poles, maybe with european leaders or it works with the americans, with the chinese leader it does not, and the result is very half-hearted promises, we have a truce in time. the olympic games that will be held in

paris this summer, again, how this will be controlled, how concretely in practice this truce will take place, no one is saying, and very, very disappointing was the statement that china refused to help russia because of dual-use goods, very disappointed, because first these words were not even said by sijin ping himself, it was already at the press conference that macron thanked him for taking on himself. binding not to help russia, but in practice it is completely unrealistic, because we know that if russia were to import high-precision machines, optics, well, that is, the import figures have increased, it seems, by 70% in the last two years, these are simply, well, surreal figures, and macron in fact, i did not achieve anything with this visit, and what can we say about the leader's tour.

the people's republic of china, not only to france, with which he went there in the mood, because we saw that in some countries, for example, in serbia , he was received very well, that he was interrupted broadcasting to all. televisions and broadcast only when the leader of china arrived, what goals does the leader of the people's republic of china pursue? you know, the goal is very simple, it's about what the states did after the second world war, it's increasing influence in europe, it's strengthening economic ties, which are already very, very strong, and it's essentially friendship with countries that first of all, they already demonstrate a desire to renounce american dominance in the world. this is hungary, this is serbia, and this is france, because macron, for his part, has repeatedly said that europe should be autonomous, europe must be independent of the united states and build its own strategy. unlike hungary and sterbia, france , the truth, believes that it can

take the lead in this process and act as such, let's say, such a very important pole on a par with china, the states or russia, which is unclear or realistic. considering that europe, and france, in particular, does not have its own military production, this country is not autonomous in terms of energy resources, that is, what autonomy and what strong position can speak, but france is added to this, to this number of countries, and the chinese leader simply takes advantage of this, of course, he chose the date, by the way, not by chance, this year marks the 60th anniversary of diplomatic relations with france, 75 years of diplomatic relations with hungary . as well as the 25th anniversary of the nato bombing of the chinese embassy in belgrade, that is , you see, very symbolic moments have been chosen, and this trip is absolutely strategic, it is the building and strengthening of influence in europe, it is economic ties, it is the strengthening of infrastructure

process, also one belt, one road, which hungary has already joined, and, for example, china has invested 2 billion euros in connecting... the capitals of hungary and serbia with a high-speed train, so there are economic interests from all sides, in fact, and well, somewhere, china is pulling a cover over itself, let’s say so, and it’s not a fact that it even plays into the hands of russia, or does it, well, if, let’s say, in some such tandem together with russia, these are purely chinese interests, absolutely economic interests country for which it is a priority economic. development, and tell me, mrs. maria, this conversation is constantly about the chances that french troops can enter ukraine, macron continues this conversation, we already talked about it in our program today, he said it today, explaining it to ordinary users the internet in such

direct answers that we certainly do not want to fight, but we have to intervene if ukrainian sovereignty can be threatened, how much politics there is and how much... a lot of real intentions of a security nature, a lot of politics, because in the same interview, at the end, he said: "i sincerely hope that we will not have to fight." well, that is, the president, as always, here he is, if it were a swing, from right to left, a roller coaster, it’s already something like that, well, the french media is already used to this, it’s already the fourth month of these conversations, which lead to nothing, there was a bit of a stir there statement, fake news from an american official and so on. that french troops are already in ukraine, although they later denied it, i think macron is confused partly, i have such a theory, you know, because he returns to these words too often and too often they sound in the exact

opposite way, then he says: we should be ready for everything, for everything, and if there, for example, the front line or some defensive lines of ukraine will move. then we will have to go, and then in the same interview he says: i hope we never have to do this, and we have to understand exactly the context, when this red line does come, again we go back to the red lines, that is it somehow sways him, you know, in different sides, and i don't see it yet in this sequence, i think he has this opinion unequivocally, but there is no support, and he cannot follow this well-worn path, because he has no support for it. and how does french society feel about sending troops to the territory of ukraine, what do ordinary people think, what do they say? they are negative, they are negative, the last polls, it seems, there were no recent polls, the last polls i saw were about a month ago, and there

two/thirds of the french said no, it was us we are not at war with russia, by the way, this phrase comes up very often in the discourse, we are not at war with russia, well, although they are talking about cyber war, here it is interesting, they admit that russia and france are in a state of such a cyber war, because there are a lot of attacks and on french servers and on official sites, and this war is over. is going on, but there should not be a physical, physical war on the ground against russia, against the russians, and france has nothing to do with it, so sending troops in general does not suit the french, and according to the latest polls, at least this idea is not was supported, just as it is not supported by other political forces, except perhaps the conservative right and centrists, who now simply, well, let's say banally follow macron in almost everything. because they have built such a political consensus, but neither from the left side, nor from

the more radical right, there is no consensus at all regarding the sending of troops, although we will have to watch now what is happening in kharkiv oblast, so this is exactly where it will be, probably a test just for emmanuel macron, because he already talked about a certain offensive or a breakthrough of some lines, if this happens, then it will be worth following his reaction, how much in principle... now we can talk about the fact that france really captures such a leadership in europe, when we talk about supporting ukraine, you see signs of this ? you know, these signs are probably in the words, because it's still macron - he's one of those leaders who talks about ukraine in almost, almost every speech, it's very, it's very symbolic, after all, because france, french president. usually, when they address their people, if so to trace, and sarkozy, hollande and so on,

these addresses very rarely contain any information that appeared historically, about international politics. of course, here the context has completely changed, er, there is a war on european soil, and macron cannot ignore it, but the issue of ukraine is present in france in such a way, as if it is a purely french matter, to settle this... situation, to solve this war, to resolve it, to somehow bring ukraine to victory, this is still relevant, it is not about a truce, although well, as for the olympics, of course, it is about victory, and france in this regard verbally adheres to the same line, if we talk about any specific, concrete support and so on, according to the numbers, so far germany is ahead, at least by according to kyiv university, namely germany. in terms of money, it invests more in military aid, here, of course, you can count that a large amount

of ammunition is more important there, or there is one caesar gun, and what is more strategic for this, it is important on the front, but according to the numbers, germany seemed to take before, at least there according to the estimates of the last year, maybe it will somehow change this year, because france is still reaching new scales, it is scaling its military industry at a very slow pace, unfortunately, but it is still happening. at that time, of course, other countries don't even have nearly as much potential as france, so yes, this leadership is happening, since great britain is no longer part of the eu, then of course it remains france and germany, because if anyone else, and by the way , regarding the olympics, there is an important point here, after all hope that macron will play on this and manage to organize some kind of olympic break during this break, because this will be his first small one. a complete victory, if indeed it is possible, for all eyes will be on france at that moment, it will be a moment of sport, of peace, and

so on, but again by what methods he will achieve it is absolutely unclear. mr. maria, i want to return to sending french troops to the territory of ukraine. the kremlin has already managed, i don't know, to drop the threat. maria zakharova said that they will be the targets of the russian federation, she is talking about the french, who will be sent to ukraine, how will he react, or is it possible, how has the french president already reacted to this? well, since they denied the presence of french troops in ukraine, by the way, this all started, well, with a banal fake news, it's just a former american official who was still working, i think, during the reagan era, that is, a person who is retired there, stephen breen, stephen brien, it seems, yes, he said that already on the territory of ukraine there are these... there are these french troops, there are 100 of them, there will be 1500 of them, he even named a famous russian propagandist, he

works with russian resources, he absolutely works with the washington times, which is pro-trump in contrast to the washington post, he borrowed his information from sputnik’s tweet, and then in a conversation with french journalists who were able to reach him, journalism carried out such a check, check news investigation , and he told them that his source was a satellite, a very reliable, excellent source, he found this information on twitter, he quoted a specific infantry regiment, the french, the 3rd, which is generally in french guiana right now, so, well... no it is clear to what extent this information is there, where he got it, well, if so, it is clear where he got it, but there everything even reached the point of absurdity, because he quoted the satellite, it seems on the third day, and then a few days later the satellite already quoted him, i.e. this circle, you know, of toxic information online, which , of course, is immediately picked up by the russian propaganda machine, immediately reacts, that is

, it itself fabricated some information, responds to it with threats, and seriously... to perceive it from the point of view of france would be completely illogical and they don't that is, there was no reaction, i will tell you this, because i was really even looking to see if there would be any reaction, there was none, everything was denied and ignored, in fact, but tell me, mr. maria, in such a situation, we know that the foreign legion was there were many conversations that ukrainians from the foreign legion, i think, even at the beginning of the war, really returned to... ukraine to fight on the side of the defense forces of ukraine, there were comments from the command of the foreign legion, maybe all this is also used now, absolutely it is used, and ukrainians are there there really are, and individually there may have been those who terminated their contract there or deserted, went to ukraine, it is a military secret, they, well, it will not

be disclosed, but it is not about some mass phenomenon there, that all ukrainians were released there , went to ukraine. the legion needs to react somehow, they say about operations in estonia, about operations in romania, that is, the entire eastern flank of france, and that they could be involved in these territories, but there is no specific intervention on ukrainian territory, and that too inflates, you are absolutely right, it inflates, because every little hint that somehow it is possible to undermine trust, let's say to the officials... the statements of the french presidents, ministries and so on, it is all used, why? because these are two completely different paradigms, european diplomacy, european statements - these are responsible politicians who check their words 3 million times before saying them, most of them, of course, there are cases of corruption, and there are also manipulations and so on, and a completely different paradigm is the fabrication

of reality, when some fact is simply released into the air, which becomes. suddenly the truth and to which someone must react, these are different dogmas, different worlds, and they somehow coexist now, and well, it is quite difficult, in fact, to fight against the fake, but there are methods, tools for this, and at least french journalists are actively engaged in this , as well as the ukrainian ones, but if we ask the rube question, so in the elections to the european parliament, the party of emmanuel macron will lose to the party of marine le pen, and of course loses, of course, then even if there are no options, i think the trends are absolutely steady now, although today, when macron addressed the voters on twitter, he is exactly the european if he had prepared such a speech, but i am not very optimistic, maybe there will be a surprise , but all the same, it seems to me that the extreme right is very active, they are breaking through very actively, i think the general majority in the european

parliament, and this was repeatedly confirmed to us by all specialists, will still remain centrist, eh, but the breakthrough of the extreme of far-right forces this time, this year will be simply phenomenal, and on the example of the specific country of france, here already, well, it may remain there, how much, a month remains, a lot can still change, however, on the example of france, yes, these are still extreme the right, which is currently leading, but it seems to me, let's explain to our viewers that marine le pen always had excellent results especially in the elections to the european parliament, and then when it came to... the elections to the french national assembly, that's all it looked completely different, because the electoral systems are completely different, the electoral system is so completely different, it is ironic, by the way, that a eurosceptic party is leading like this in the elections to the european parliament, it still speaks somewhere about the eurosceptic sentiments of the europeans themselves, in france, yes, a completely different system, a different level of calculations, but lupen

also got ahead, they have 80, it seems , deputies, although in the previous elections there were somewhere... nine or 12, that is, in fact, her record in the last parliamentary elections, he is also phenomenal, and if all the news were talking about it, it did not become the largest opposition party, it still remained mélenchon with the extreme left, because they organized alliances and so on, but it is the second largest opposition party in france, and this cannot be to ignore, especially in the perspective of 2027 and the upcoming presidential elections. to france, which will be, i think, a very important moment for all of europe, in fact. let's put an end to this, thank you, ms. maria oleksa, she was on our air, a journalist. postkova an editor on french television, mr. vitaliy, i suggest now to move on to the topics i want to talk about with you, and this week

there were new personnel changes in the government, the minister of agrarian policy solsky was dismissed, well, with that at least it is clear, and also the vice-prem' mr. kubrakov, although he was an obscure figure for me to be released, why the release happened. kubrakova, in your opinion, maybe what, or who is behind it? you know, i don't think about it at all, not even for 30 seconds. for one simple reason. what matters is the personality of the prime minister, vice prime minister, minister, head of the power bloc, when they have their own political, i would say, figure, when there is, say, a coalition, when the ministers... are representatives of various coalition forces, when they enter the government in order to perform not just their official duties,

but to represent certain positions of the parties that nominate them, and then we will be able to talk a lot about it, so yes, one party nominated one group of ministers, and another another, you remember, in the coalition after 2014 we were surprised that the people's front proposed its own... representatives for the positions of ministers, petro poroshenko's bloc proposed specialists, technocracy, they went the other way, and we discussed it for a long time and lively, what are the different approaches to the formation of the government, here the deputies learn about the surname ministers, when they approve the government, they just bring a list, and we learn about the names of the ministers, then when these ministers are dismissed or accused of nabu, and we start talking, and why were they accused of, and who are we, if we do this... we will behave just like our conditional colleagues, well , are these conditional colleagues from russian official publications, there are people from russian liberal publications, they discuss mishustin's government, but such

ministers left there, and such ministers left there, well , even in russia it can be more interesting to say, because there are some clans there, there is the patrushev clan, patrushev has a son, he promoted him to vice the premier, and chemmizov has a ee... there is his nominee manturov, who became first vice prime minister, it's all a class, clan struggle, we don't even have that, fortunately, there is no clan struggle, in our country all power is practically concentrated in one hand, in the hands of the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, there are several managers who by his own admission, from the office of the president, who help him carry out his powers, but the decisions of the president himself are not affected in any way, we never know what the president is guided by, personnel decisions, some emotions, some... motives related to his relations with allies, or what someone was the first or the last to reach his office, i don’t even want to deal with it, i don’t want to live in volodymyr zelenskyi’s head,

because it is his absolute prerogative to live in his own head, this configuration was not created by the president himself, it was created by the ukrainian people in the 19- m year, and i am absolutely unable to discuss resignations. the appointment of people whose names i learned exactly when i found out about the parliament through some kind of resignation, until this moment, and about the existence of mr. kubrakov, i honestly did not know, now i i read there, you know, he could be the heir of the prime minister, we have a prime minister, 90% of people don't know the last name, well, he would be the heir of the prime minister, who is also according to his capabilities anonymous was remembered perhaps by the fact that he was the first of the ukrainian officials to take off this jacket, but the zadunovka conditionally and now walks in a suit like a classic official, well, it is interesting, again for a secular chronicle, if i were the editor of the voch magazine there, then i

of course, i would have made a portrait of volodymyr zelenskyi for this one on one page to a handsome ferenc, does he wear embroidered clothes on holidays there, i would make a portrait of the prime minister in a classic suit on another page, well, since we don't have a vouch, we are deprived of such an opportunity, you only in this way, only in this way, so... what can we say about famous names, about, for example, the former head commissar zaluzhnyi, who was appointed as the british ambassador, and i personally wonder what we can expect from valery zaluzhnyi in his position, in this diplomatic position? i think it's okay, because again, now it's classic diplomacy does not look like it used to, well, again, the president and the prime minister of great britain communicate directly, they say, that's valery zaluzhny. such authority as a person has, he can convince the british parliamentarians of something like this, what they need to be convinced of, there is a full consensus on supporting ukraine, there is a pe' in diplomacy. things

are professional, not related to any beliefs, not to speeches in parliaments, but to such daily painstaking work, which is related to thousands of details, absolutely technical, i don't even want to talk about them for a long time now, because any embassy is by and large an enterprise, you know, the ambassador deals with everything, from money for the elevator, he has to go to the embassy to protocol meetings there with other ambassadors. i have always believed, since soviet times, when members of the politburo of the cpsu were appointed ambassadors, that the ambassador should be a professional diplomat. this is the same military service. the ambassador has the rank of ambassador extraordinary plenipotentiary, not everyone, as you know, even extraordinary ambassador plenipotentiary and such rank. there is the rank of ambassador of the first class, ambassador of the second

class, when... when people who are not professional diplomats are appointed to these positions, it is usually either exile or sinicur, in the case of, say, some former associates of volodymyr zelensky there, it exile, in fact, and in the case of volodymyr zelenskyi, valery zaluzhnyi, it is also in essence a political exile, someone received a sinikur, we know some people there who, unexpectedly, also never engaged in this, received ambassadorial positions, this is once again speaks about the attitude to the diplomatic service. you understand, if we, as an ambassador to a country in great britain or germany, were to appoint the deputy commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine or the chief of the general staff, everyone would think that this is complete madness, well, as a person who did not make a career in armed forces, not to no, not to there are no military ranks, the last military ranks lieutenant suddenly turns into a person who receives a position

in which ... there may be a colonel general and the people who occupy these positions, they are not they are simply hired, they serve for years, they go through the barracks, you know, in order to become the wife of a general, so to speak, you have to marry a lieutenant, a well-known saying, and then suddenly a person becomes a substitute holocommander, well, when a person who is not engages in professional diplomatic work , becomes an extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador, any person, it looks exactly like this, so that we do not have any doubts, so of course i want to ... wish mr. valeriy a good stay in this position, i understand that he a military man, he is not from those people who can choose their place of work, obviously it was an offer that he could not refuse against the background of the situation that we observed in the last months of his stay, and to wish him a happy return to ukraine after the end of hostilities, and maybe it will be needed during the continuation of military operations, we do not

know how the situation will change, maybe... it will be renewed again in the armed forces, we are only at the first stage of the war, i always remind our dear viewers that nothing has happened, the main events are still ahead, the 20th and 30th years of the war are still ahead, and there will still be many different changes, and perhaps in these changes the president and the citizens of ukraine will also need valery zaluzhny, let's see, it's hard to predict it now, yes, you just said about the beginning of the war, 20-30 years and... i understand that we cannot 20-30 years, i said 20-30 years, excuse me, 20-30s, and i understand that we cannot do without the support of our allies, well, of course we cannot, we have already, as i absolutely said at the beginning of our conversations, general bohdan, we are a 30 million country after against 140 million and this will always be the rule of this war, and therefore modern weapons with and and effective defense war, these are the two trump cards.