today with the cover of the power plant, petya will come to you, and he will tell you what oksana said, that's how they built it, as a result, to put it mildly, we are not very good with the shelters, so they are now, when these shelters are not they save, they say that we are not involved here , that is how it always works, if there is no order and system, then there are no people responsible for failures, and this is the whole claim of society, yes we, for example, i do not get tired of repeating , president zelenskyi... is a legitimate president even after the 21st, he is the president of a warring country, and so does my president, but i want to hear who was responsible for the obvious failures before the war and during the war, and the answer to this is the only marathon telling us yet another pink unicorn about the fact that we are about to be in crimea again and about we will have a victorious peace, but let's return to kubrakov, why was he removed, let's remember who kubrakov was before the war? dovivnyk kubrakov was one of the main

actors of the big construction, which the people called the big theft, and under his eyes, five monopolists, who between they ransacked this colossal budget of tens of billions of dollars, engaged in this, a 10% kickback for the authorities, how much they took offshore, i can't tell you, and kubarko was the best, he was praised by the president, he was praised by the prime minister. everything was fine, but as soon as the war started, kubrakov really stopped this whole story, moreover, he established personal relations with the american embassy and representatives of our main strategic ally, and from that moment, when this dereiban scheme ended, from that moment suddenly he pond disliked, because 10% stopped dripping, and then he became the enemy of those who decided not to leave... this place, and this place is so sweet in

their vision, not because it is necessary to help the armed forces, but because in their imagination it a flow of billions for fortification, for restoration, and soon they say, there will be peace, mr. yarmak is already telling us that peace is coming, accordingly , we must immediately occupy this key place, because kubrakov does not allow to do what he led before the war , as a result of his... i apologize for the rudeness, well, let's not be rude, his friends in the big construction, one of them sits in the office of the president, the second sits in the ministry of defense, and the third sits in oil and gas, created this, as they think, elegant move, when the parliament removed a person who stopped playing by their mafia rules, that's it the whole truth about kubrakov's resignation, will you find out how it will end? when

one of these three dignitaries is appointed in his place, do you think that kirill can be appointed, tymoshenko in the ministry of defense will pretend to be engaged in fortifications, but in the status adviser, so as not to sign anything, which means that they will not be responsible for anything. i believe that kyril tymoshenko is really needed there, indeed for the fortifications, but as an appointed lieutenant of the engineering forces, to personally sit on the equipment of the yug freeway, to lead this column, to stand under the orders of haikov and personally day and night, including under fire, dig, then the fortifications will be real, and when he will sit in kyiv as an adviser, and uncle mykola will dig as usual with a shovel, then we will have fortifications like in kharkov, but look, yuriy vitayovych, you are talking about the fact that someone should be responsible, but as far as i understand, monopower presupposes monoresponsibility, that is, it is absolutely obvious. and this mono-responsibility is not between

kirill tymoshenko, kubrakov, it is mono-responsibility, well, at least between two people of zelensky, he is constitutional, well , constitutional, but not with such broad powers, the fair who manages his office, well, that is, when it comes to who is responsible for this, well, the answer is already obvious, who, look, let's divide, there is political responsibility, and here you are right, president zelenskyi is responsible for everything in the country with a monomajority, because he is right. for the first time in the history of the country, for the first time, even kuchma didn't have this and yanukovych didn't, they shared the majority of parliaments there with various parties, sometimes with communists, sometimes with various strange names, but this one has complete control over the government, complete control over the parliament, one-man, not as it was in the days of poroshenko or yushchenko, a coalition, but one-man, complete control over the courts, full control over uh, oh my god, over

law enforcement officers, and most importantly - a total monopoly on mass media, because you and i do not appear in digital format, we can only be seen on the internet. all this means that the freedom of speech, which has been present since the time of yushchenko, well, in a completely european format, has now again been reduced to the extent of, well , let's say, a bunch of second convocation or a second target, that is, political responsibility in such a format, when you have all the power, belongs exclusively to president zelensky, and he will carry a political one liability in the next election, and i am sure he will lose it, well there is also legal liability. and here sergey, you are wrong, there is no collective legal responsibility, everyone is responsible for his own. in this case, this government calculated how many problems there were in yanukovych's entourage and in him personally, how much money was taken from them and how many assets were seized and given to the state, and let me remind you that it was

billions and, well, for example, the odessa oil refinery, er, there is a stadium in kharkiv, 1.5 billion dollars of money. in kiev, that is, these were colossal funds. what did they do? they came up with a tent called councilors. tell me, do you remember the government, under which colossal financial, economic, political, social processes were managed not by ministers, not even heads of administration, not heads of regional administrations, advisers, that's what the adviser is responsible for, he is the one who came, kind of. .. the workplace was cleaned, he left, what will he be imprisoned for, that is why they are all still advisers, and holik, an adviser, and tymoshenko, an adviser, and, and yarmak is responsible only for violins according to the law, therefore, see that we do not talk about bad things for so long, i will say what we say, we are

the opposition, we have been saying for the past six months, we are ready to support the current president in everything that is necessary for the survival of the country and, first of all, in supporting the armed forces. we are always ready to share everything we have for ukraine. i responsibly declare that our party, everyone who can, well, let's say, in terms of age and health, is at the front. we have more than a hundred dead. we all volunteer, do everything necessary to support the armed forces. but we offer the authorities let's find that. which you government constantly talk about, let's do a very simple thing: parliamentary elections were held 5 years ago, according to the constitution, it has been a year already, the extra parliament is in the hall, yes , parliamentary elections are prohibited during wartime, we know this, but that political choice is no longer

relevant, but, accordingly, let's form a government in the parliament not on the basis of party interest, it should no longer be... a monomajority of servants of the people, it should be a government of professionals, which we call a government of national unity, which will not learn, who will not talk nonsense, will not hold regular truskovets schools there, and from the first day every professional will join in his place without party representation on the fact that he knows better than anyone whether there are such people in ukraine, yes there are, whether there are candidates in are there such premieres? such ministers of defense, economy, infrastructure, yes, but today, unfortunately, it is not of interest to the president and the head of his office, and why is the president not interested, but why am i, i am listening to you now, why am i asking this question, for

in the first days of the war, zelensky communicated with poroshenko, although it is clear that they did not have very good relations there in the 19th and 18th years, there were some reasons for that, zelenskyi was offended a lot... and is offended, continues to be offended on poroshenko, it can be seen that poroshenko wants some kind of understanding with him, some kind of conversation, in the first days of the war, the great war, starting from february 25 or 24 , 2022, there was such a dialogue, why is there no such dialogue now, and why zelensky refused this dialogue? in fact, there was only dialogue in the first 3-4 days, they really had several meetings at which, well, as they told me, they said, let's blow it and start clean. sheet of paper, because a country at war is a completely different country than it was before, let's forget about 144 criminal cases that did not bring the country anything, and including that do not have any legal grounds, let's go and so on, zelensky instead asked , that you

advised me at the beginning of the war, but then this contact was broken again, i even remember approximately when it was, it was in the area flowers when the suu began to sweep out the occupiers from kyiv oblast, chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast, etc., and zelenskyy and his team believed that the victory was here, but he was not going to share it and is not going to. the matter is the personal composition of volodymyr oleksandrovich's character, he wants to be alone on the stage and he wants all the applause only for himself, well, what are we talking about poroshenko, let's talk about his team, where is bakanov, where is bohdan, where is honcharuk, danylyuk , all this is a dream, this team rebashapka, who left came after, and where he disappeared from the air who, everyone, who are people starting to recognize? disappears from the air, from the team, from the stage, there should be only one, as the fair formulated,

the greatest leader of our time, and to lead all of them, well, to receive all the applause, and at the same time to lead everything, as time magazine found out, the most influential leader, and this greatest and the most influential of the two is not going to share, and their logic is very simple: the west is interested in our victory no less... we and he will not let us fall, and all the problems begin with this false message, because the west will definitely be to support ukraine, he will definitely give weapons and so on, but he will play according to his script, and it does not always include the phrase ukraine above all else, because they have their own geopolitical, domestic political and even electoral interests, and at the same time, in more than two years, ukraine has not been able to establish a program that was already completed a long time ago, i

mean missiles, drones, artillery, well, what can i say, the west can write off everything that we don’t have shells, that we have little artillery, that we were not sent f-16, but tell me, is it the west's fault that with 1.5 billion in money, we don't even have half a billion drones to cover the entire front line, is it the west's fault that... as a result, we have, well "let's say, the defense units are imperfect, and the technique of large-scale construction does not participate in large-scale fortification, nameless fops are pumping money again, so look, this is the problem, if someone is allowed into the government of national unity, i'm not even talking about poroshenko, whatever who, who will not say is so accurate. mr. yaermak, if such a person is allowed there, it will become clear that this pocketbook will be very

weak, well, 5 billion were stolen, the whole system of not just inefficiency, but not efficiency, which leads to global corruption during the war, and therefore sharing with the authorities they are not capable, and that is why i am afraid that we have only one hope, it is illusory, but still... it is there, let's just grit our teeth and say, until the end of the war, the president of ukraine zelensky, okay, without yarmak, he will not be able to work it will be, okay, but the parliament must elect the government national unity, can this yermak-controlled parliament elect such a government? yes, maybe. i would like to remind you that the yanukovych parliament elected turchynov as speaker and yatsenyuk as prime minister, as well as many others.

this is if lutsenko will propose, for example, they now have more arguments to say listen to the government of national trust or poroshenko, no, no, and we will enter that again in 2019, and i am not talking about the party government of european solidarity, and i personally do not intend to be no government official. but i'm talking about a government that will be responsible to society and the armed forces, if this is not done, we, well, you remember how in football, the class interrupts the amateurs, that is, we are now engaged in amateurism, we have not built a system of work, but against us is a huge imperial, dictatorial, pumped with money and meat, a machine that operates... according to the laws of the totalitarian system, and we continue to try

to stop it riding on a horse with cossack chivalry, well, it can be a year, it can be two, with the help of the west, but then society feels that something is wrong here yes, and that's why this kharkiv situation, once again i emphasize, there is no disaster there, most likely there are normal lines of defense in the depths, and there are no mines, and there are no drones. this is a manifestation of the fact that in kyiv there is no single coherent system of managing the economy of war, and either we will create it, or the country will not be, and you say the situation is not the same, and i say the situation is... much worse than in the 14th year, because in the 14th year we cried over 100 killed of the heavenly hundred, and now no one has given us an honest number, but we all see it in cemeteries, so i do not call for any radical actions, i just know that deputies sometimes come to their homes, both party and majority, and the electricity

of society at these meetings becomes more and more intense with them. i say again, this is a small chance for change, a more significant chance is when the western allies get tired of this irresponsibility and corruption, and still force us to create a responsible service government of national unity. yuriytach, well, you knew zelenskyi before the war, well, if i knew him, of course, you were also a minister then, and then later already, when you, you... yanukovych put you in prison, i understand that you had some phone calls, he did, he called you in prison, what did i call, why don't they call, you called, see , well, you know zelensky as a person, he obviously somehow remained the same volodymyr zelensky as he was, but he just spent 5 years

that were already quite difficult, by the way, these 5 years, that is, this is not some kind of walk, it is unlikely that there is in the world . many presidents who ruled the country during the war, and it is also a very big question, how do people deal with it are coping, you didn't try to talk to him, to say that, well, let's sit down, let's think about the future of the country, is there permanent entrance only through one door, through the ermak, well, that is, he understands what is happening, or he does not fully understand, i remained the prosecutor general for another three months under zelensky. he insisted so persistently that i should write a statement, i ask why, well, everyone wrote, i say, i was never like everyone else, i didn’t steal anything and i didn’t earn anything, so i ’m not going to write, well, you have a deadline powers were still large enough in my opinion, he says then i will have to

remove you, i say well i will try, but in fact , according to the constitution, this is not included in the powers of the president, so what should i do? well, everything is very simple, if the parliament is elected without a majority for me, i will write a statement right now, because nobody needs a prosecutor general without a majority, i don’t need a chair, for me, all submissions will just be thrown into the trash, but then he agreed, he says everything is okay, in a month, so do it, and here we go out in such a normal mood, i ask, and which, well, i apologize, but i was talking about that, well , they agreed, because they really knew a lot, i say , what is your plan? i will show you all how i will be treated like an old professional, how a neophyte will be applauded every day by the whole of ukraine, and i say, you understand that this is a sick enough body, if he applauds the doctor, then he has an application, here serious operations must be carried out, serious actions in order

to achieve a serious result in three, four or five years, this is all worthwhile, i will show how... every day we will achieve a result and people will applaud it. ot the desire for applause is the main thing for him as an artist. i emphasize, to say the positive, i have never seen or heard that he was particularly interested in money. this can be attributed to the positive. true, his entourage treats them in a completely different way, but volodymyr oleksandrovich himself wants applause. and he wants simple applause. he doesn't want you'. to build long strategies, he does not want to engage in two, three, sometimes five-shot there, and this leads him to these sad results, and then, when he remained in the narrow circle of yarmak and five managers, well, i think that he does not fully understand the situation that is developing in

ukraine and at the front, with all due respect to the supreme commander, going to the trenches... such a person is always a show off, well, zelensky was in kharkiv, he was at these fortifications, he said that they were 98% built, well, to put it mildly, maybe where he was, that's how it is, well , yuriytavych, you were in power and held several positions that were quite serious, the minister of internal affairs, you were the prosecutor general, well, you still knew what was happening in the state, it also did not happen that you were in any limited space at least i don't know 50 sources. independent information from my friends, from my party members, from maidan residents, from journalists, from, i appointed special civilian assistants, heads of regional... administrations so that they could check with people, i went to receptions in the district center, sat for hours, listened to people , what will they tell me, uh, look, this is a different style of leadership, there is a style of leadership,

the authority of power, now, and there is leadership, power authority that i saw under yushchenko and poroshenko, with different shades, but it was exactly like this: when you know how to delegate authority to a strong prime minister. yatsenyuk, you are not afraid of this, when you delegate authority to the strong minister avakov, who criticizes you as the president every day and even leads demonstrations against you, but you seek an understanding with him, because you are a coalition, and you cannot say, i will simply put you down without limit , and there is another thing, when they say, everyone who does not applaud me, we fire, it is absolutely unimportant, you are an effective manager, no effective, we are dismissing, and therefore i say once again, i have no personal complaints against zelensky, he is not to blame for the fact that 73%, during the war, elected to the post of supreme

commander a person who knew nothing about the war, knew nothing about economy and knew nothing about the state administration system, he is rather even a victim of this choice than, well, guilty, the whole question is only one thing, serhiy: will... ukrainians draw a conclusion from this, please allow me an experiment, i think that whether they will understand that if you have something hurts, then you go to a doctor, if you want to build something, then you go to a builder, and if you want to change something in the state, you go to a politician, because it is also a profession, it is also experience, knowledge, mistakes, achievements, if this conclusion will be done, i am sure that we will find something to praise volodymyr oleksandrovich for... and something to imprison those who today do things for which the best among us, who are

now at the front, have to pay with blood. at the very end of our conversation, i would like to mention nato, as it is not now it is strange, because nato makes certain curtseys to ukraine, and the north atlantic alliance says that the representatives of the north atlantic alliance say that... nato troops are in ukraine, but in the form of military specialists, about this in particular said polish prime minister donald tusk. he confirmed that ukraine already has a certain number of such military specialists. let's listen. today, nato helps as much as possible. ukraine will not be able to cope without the help of the alliance. there are already a few military personnel, observers, and engineers there. from the fact that

there were military consultants in the soviet union all the time, this is a working scheme, and there is no appeal, public appeal by zelensky to nato and to tell him to say, listen, well, we have problems at the front, let's bring in the troops , maybe the alliance is waiting for such an invitation, then... every country that is part of the alliance, not the alliance as a structure, but every country, well, france, for example, it sends a foreign legion here, but there is no such official appeal, why? well, if i may, i 'll joke a little, french legon, that's for sure good, but i am not sure that among the command of our operational commands, there, for example, khorotitsa, or there, others, there are many people. who can translate that crap into french, but i doubt that we have many people who can, well, just linguistically communicate

with many different foreigners, i'm just kidding, i think that we don't need foreign legionnaires of nato countries on the field battle, in infantry, in tanks and with artillery. let's ask ourselves the question, what is our problem in this war? well, immediately the number comes to mind the enemy's manpower, yes, they have more of it, today under half a million, and putin plans to have another 200,000 by august, but the defense of bakhmut, avdiivka, chasovoy yar, and many other heroic events on our front show that we have learned from... . three or four times, sometimes even eight times, the number of enemy manpower, with the advent of drones and fpv, it became such a widespread phenomenon. then

what? the advantage of the russians and they are still moving, since the resignation of general zaluzhnyi we have already lost about 600 km, on the one hand it is not so much, it is 0.1% the territory of the country, that is , putin has only a thousand years left to seize ukraine, at such rates, and on the other hand, well, these are serious things, because sooner or later they can lead to, well, more serious consequences. the superiority of the russians in the air, they absolutely control the air, they destroy our fortifications, our defense lines, our cities that we defend, with missiles and guided aerial bombs, drones, and drones, we have already learned to fight with drones, and all kinds of reba, and the old bukovel and the new ipad, which developed by poroshenko's team, today

they are showing brilliant results. the main thing is for the government to finance them and place them along the entire front line, a lot of problems will disappear there, but russian planes take off in crimea at a distance that is inaccessible to our air defense, and throw missiles and guided aerial bombs at us, what to do with it? for this, it would be necessary to bring air defense to the front line, and they are concentrated around kyiv, around other regional centers and energy facilities. and it seems to me that this is precisely the answer to your question, and to me it seems that it would be possible to invite nato countries to take control of at least part of our sovereign sky, we are a sovereign country, yes, we have rights to our land, water and air, yes, airspace, i mean, yes, let's vote then , or rather, the president will sign the appeal, the parliament will vote, this is a mandatory condition,

according to the constitution, for introduction. contingent of nato countries, to control our air from russian missiles and others there, well , all this nonsense, for example, along the line of kirovohrad, poltava, sumy, of course, not in donetsk, not in luhansk, not in zaporizhzhia, even there, it would take a huge burden off us, and the main thing is that this is a humanitarian mission, because in the end, civilians suffer. but there is no such appeal, i cannot understand why, of course, consultations with these countries are needed in order for this to be a difficult declaration, but if in the west they speak and give signals about readiness for such actions, but we do not do it, well, honestly saying, i have only one answer, which means that our authorities are preparing for some quick option for the cessation of hostilities, well, that is, you

do you want to say that there are some victories... 30 seconds is simple. i'm afraid that we need to closely follow the so-called peace initiatives of the president's office, because no one actually knows their content, so that we don't end up in istanbul again in 22nd year, where there was actually a surrender. therefore, the conclusion is that if 30 seconds. there is no disaster. the task of every ukrainian is to be either in the armed forces, or for the armed forces, everything else is treason. thank you, it was yurii lutsenko. thank you for the conversation. friends, i would like to remind you that during this broadcast we are conducting a survey. we ask you about this, whether do you think the influence of the president's office on other branches of government is excessive? intermediate survey results: 96% yes, 4% no. after a 15-minute news break from our colleagues at the bbc, i'll be back in the studio, stay tuned.

russia has opened the kharkiv front, observers are talking about a number of captured forces, why did this happen, how far can russian troops advance? we analyze in today's issue of bbc ukraine, i am olga polamaryuk. in recent days, the russians have achieved success along the border in the kharkiv region. active offensive began at the end last week, when russian groups tried to break through the defenses. in four days of offensive operations, the russian army is believed to have been able to capture almost a dozen small villages near the state border. it could advance approximately 5-6 km deep into ukrainian territory and 30 km. in width in

the main intelligence office they say.