routes, logistical routes of the russian occupiers, as far as i know, they still haven't diversified this artery through rostov-nadana, mariupol, berdyansk and so on. yes, it is not fully working yet, that's true. there is no full capacity to provide the volumes of supply, ah, which they would try to fully compensate, in case the kerch bridge is not... functional, and therefore, yes, the kerch bridge, it continues to be the main logistical artery, because which carries the main material and technical loads provision of the russian occupation forces, everything else already on the mainland, this is as an addition, as a kind of plus that can more or less satisfy the needs of this large amount of forces and means, i will remind you that only in the south... the russians have

almost 200,000 personnel (2,000) of the russian occupation forces in the kherson, zaporozhye, and partly donetsk regions, as well as the temporarily occupied crimean peninsula, and all this mass, as well as all the iron that has come to them, must be provided with something 24x7, and what we then wait what conditions are the armed forces of ukraine waiting for today, what? hit the kerch bridge? unfortunately, the temporarily occupied crimean peninsula is second only to the moscow region in terms of air defense and anti-aircraft component. in addition to this, the kepchen bridge itself is protected not only from the territory of the crimea in the air component, but also from the territory of the russian federation, which is why it has a double coverage of the article. in order to have an effective

influence from the air, it is necessary to control this component, and with regard to sea borders, there there's constant patrolling, by the way, it's these fourth-rank ships, the high-speed patrol boats that were recently destroyed, and they're constantly patrolling the kerpchen bridge to counter any naval drone threats, and they've set up a boom... they've sunk the barrage several bavshas, ​​to complicate the process, it was precisely the reaching of the kerch bridge with our surface drones that sailed by, and also, if it was not pouring, but they are also on the side of the sea of ​​azov, from this very part, they also conduct patrols, i.e. the kerch bridge, it is guarded quite seriously now, and it is necessary to create the appropriate conditions so that there is a maximum... effective strike, because the strike

must be one, and this strike must completely destroy the kerch bridge so that it cannot be used as a car, and the railway part will not just be restored there for a week or a month, a year, and this will have an impact, a catastrophic impact on the capabilities of the russian occupation group in the south, this week we cannot help but mention ... this pobedobesiya festival, which on russia took place, well, of course, in the occupied territory they also tried to bring their slightly sectarian vibe to it, we know that there were no such large-scale military parades, but there were various car races with flags, free porridge, portraits of the immortal regiment, and various other such propaganda actions, which... with which the russians

try to replace common sense in the inhabitants of the occupied territories, why people uncritically perceive all this propaganda, why they still, even after the 14th year, and after the year 22nd, do not understand that in fact, russia is what fascist nazi germany was in the same. in the 41st year, but they perceive it as a continuation, i don't know, of the forces of good, yes, and not of the forces of evil. well, let's put it this way, in any region, in any region, in any city, there is a category of people who, in the third year of the full-scale invasion of ukraine, believe that russia has nothing to do here, it provoked everything the west, that's all... this is nato, that's

all biden did, but here is putin, he's some kind of angel who, they're trying to somehow fix this situation. vati ukrainians from absorption by geyropa. they are? yes, they really are. these are people who have a completely different outlook. the outlook is destructive. i would even say yes, degrading. degradation of a person's worldview. and it does not evolve, it degrades. and they are everywhere. especially in those regions where... there was quite a serious influence for years and even decades, the influence of precisely pro-russian political forces, narodivs and so on and so forth. unfortunately, we can record this not only on the territory of the temporarily occupied crimean peninsula, it is recorded constantly even on the territory of ukraine, even

in those regions that seem to be maximally pro-ukrainian, this includes western ukraine, this is central ukraine, there are quite a lot of people there who... continue, well, in kyiv we also saw provocations that were different precisely on may 9th by local crazies, but it's not just local crazies, they're people who know what they're doing, they're getting paid for it, why haven't they been arrested, even though they're in their 70s, even though they have no relation to the second of world war i, they wear exactly this uniform of that time and something of themselves, they try to play the role of just such a liberator and veteran, no, we don’t know, maybe they worked in the nkvd, the kgb and there in general, it’s possible exactly like that, maybe they later and parents worked in the nkvd, and if we talk about crimea, then we know that from 2014 to the present day

, russia has brought colonizers to the territory of crimea, and these are more than a million people who came from the territory of russia. and now live on the territory of crimea, and they take part there was victory in these actions, and if we talk, for example, about the crimean tatars, then for the crimean tatars this day even has other meanings, because after 10 days, all the crimean tatars were simply deported by order of stalin, the crimean tatar soldiers who fought during the second world war , when they came home to crimea, they simply did not see them. their relatives, did not see their children, and among them were also heroes of the soviet union, by the way, yes, and this, these are the most desining moments, this is exactly what we are seeing now in mariupol, we stop in temporarily occupied mariupol, and we see there

not the majority of locals who came from the russian federation, sometimes banal migrants, who are brought in in order to maximize... they became the dominant component in this occupied city, the temporarily occupied crimean peninsula, it was influenced since the 14th year, exactly in this format, how many plots outside the boundaries of urban development, outside the general plans of cities, they were raided for them, a raid took place, a raid took place... capture and there were built there where e there were forests of the red princes, they were simply developed and multi-story buildings, new residential complexes were built there, where representatives of families, representatives of the fsb, other people from

the russian federation live, and so on and so forth, that is, the scale of temporarily occupied crimea since 2014... but people from the russian federation settled in, this is a purposeful action, it will be a very big problem for us after the liberation of crimea, because these people have no right to live there, but if they are evicted from there by force, then it can be a problem, for example, with our european partners, who will pay attention: oh, here is a violation of human rights and freedoms, what are human rights and freedoms, if a person. thank you, thank you for your information, oleksandr kovalenka, a military-political commentator of the information resistance group, was on the air of the brb program together, this is a joint project of the atp and espresso, well, we have a short break, see you , wait, hello! this is svoboda

ranok, an informational project of radio svoboda. top guests every day. this is a shipping district, kherson turn on live. we are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut. we tell the main thing. on weekdays at 9:00. the bereber program together with crimean tatarskyi is a joint broadcast of the crimean tatar channel atr and the espresso tv channel. andriy yanitskyi and gulsum khalilova are in the studio. and today, in the second part of the program, valentina potapova, the head of the national advocacy department of the civic center, is with us. the worlds of almenda. ms. valentina. salam aleikum. we welcome you. salam

aleikum. i congratulate you. this week it became known that the russian occupiers are additional fsb units were sent to the temporarily occupied crimea. can we talk about that, and can this indicate that the repression against the citizens of ukraine, against the crimean tatars on the territory of the temporarily occupied peninsula will increase. and it is very difficult for me to understand the logic of the fsb, but i can make an assumption that in the future the repression will increase, the pressure will increase, and any manifestation of the position regarding the support of ukraine, or regarding the definition of the citizen identity as ukrainian will be... we

also connect it with the fact that on may 18, we mention the date of the deportation of the crimean tatars , and the fsb officers go after the crimean activists and warn them that under no circumstances should they go to rallies and hold any actions, this is their tradition. on preventive work, but this time we see that it is somehow strengthened extremely, maybe this is connected with the fact that the period of admission to ukrainian educational institutions is going on, and we know that many crimean schoolchildren are actually considering the possibility of studying in the free ukrainian territory , how it happens physically, are there still crimeans who... physically can leave crimea and come to ukrainian educational institutions, do they study

somehow online, or is it mainly for those who already managed to leave earlier before the administrative border with crimea turned into a virtual battlefield? and here you are, actually two questions, well the first question is that this year is the anniversary of the deportation of the crimean tatars. this is a very sad date, and we can really observe the strengthening of pressure and intimidation on the part of the russian federation. also, in 14 in the 15th year, our public organization appealed attention to the fact that the occupiers forbid the crimean tatars to define. this tragic memorial date, and then we held a competition

among teachers of ukraine for the development of lessons, and the theme of this competition was the right to memory, and thousands of teachers of ukraine took part in this competition in order to draw the attention of ukrainian schoolchildren to this. the action that took place on may 18, 1944, so this is one question that is related to the previous question, and the second question you asked is about whether it is possible to enter ukrainian educational institutions from crimea, and yes , there is such an opportunity, moreover... now

there are a lot of certain actions on the part of the state to improve the situation of admission to ukrainian educational institutions from temporarily occupied territories, in particular from crimea, and indeed the opportunity that was provided during after a full-scale invasion, it was perfected, this is an aid entry. my video communication video conference is taking exams via video conference when you do not need to leave the occupied peninsula, this is a certain simplification of taking exams, and this year public

organizations in partnership. with the office of the commissioner for human rights conducted a monitoring of educational centers that provide this possibility of simplified admission, and conducted a survey of students from the temporarily occupied territories who entered after the start of a full-scale invasion, and the results of these studies, they will be presented on may 22, but i can to make such a certain spoiler about the challenges that exist and the challenges that the state needs to take, well, the actions that the state needs to take to overcome these challenges, well, first of all, this is the problem of emigration, and it is necessary to improve the video

introduction and remote system. education, these are challenges related to the social support of children who decide to leave after all, because unlike their peers, they cannot receive support from their parents, because you know that parents cannot send money from crimea now , they cannot send any help in kind there. ate some goodies or something, and we looked, well, most of the children live on a very small budget, and according to their answers, they don't have her opportunities even, well, they only have the opportunity to buy food and clothes, and therefore, in our

opinion, the state needs to pay attention. on this problem, these children go in one direction, and these are, well, other challenges that we have identified, and which we hope will be heard by the state, not only by the ministry of education, but also by the ministry of social policy and the ministry of youth and sports, the ministry of reintegration and other state authorities . ms. valentina, is there any chance to stay now? contact with crimean applicants who entered ukrainian universities from the beginning of a large-scale invasion, if we compare to 2022, is this number, is it increasing or vice versa? unfortunately, this figure, why was this monitoring done in the first place, and

this survey, because we saw that the 2023 entry... gave us a shockingly low figure, and even the 22nd year entry had 137 children from the temporarily occupied territory of crimea, only 86 children entered in 23, well, almost half, although the conditions were the same, yes, what in the 22nd year, what in the 23rd. year there was already a full-scale war, and such a technical question, excuse me, please it's just that i have friends who want to enter ukrainian universities, but the question is, will they be able to return later, for example, if they leave to return to crimea and work there with this diploma, will the russian occupiers not accept them? and i can tell you that

the russian federation, for its part, did not. there are still certain steps regarding the rejection of ukrainian diplomas, the russian federation recognizes ukrainian diplomas, and theoretically they can return, in fact, i understand that a person who receives an education specifically in ukraine, well she will not contribute much there. directly accepted for work with a ukrainian diploma, which was obtained during a full-scale war, this is my assumption, this is my... personal opinion, but we all understand that a ukrainian diploma is a prestigious diploma, because, for example, russian diplomas and the diplomas issued on the territory of the temporarily occupied crimea,

they are simply not recognized, and nowhere, that is exactly what i wanted to continue, but when we did this survey of students and there was a question, what is your motivation, why are you entering ukraine? of higher education, and there you can say that you can determine, well , there are three such motivations, which have more than 70% of the answers that were given, and you know, it was very nice that in most of them the motivation is a sense of civic identity, it is 71 % of the answers, in second place is... this is the perspective, well, employment, life perspective, yes, life path, the opportunity to enter higher education institutions

abroad, and this is another 71%, so, well, that is why they choose ukrainian education, and this really yes because for students from...temporarily occupied territories, and in particular from crimea, there are currently a lot of international study programs abroad at very well-known universities with grant support, and we collected such information at the request of those with whom we communicate from crimea. .. transmitted this information in order for them to spread it among the crimeans. and also, why, in my opinion,

it is necessary, yes, to choose to study at ukrainian universities, it is because you see that now we will have a great shortage of personnel reserves after deoccupation, very strongly, and valentina potapova, the head of the national advocacy department of the civic center. and almena, i would like to remind you that for our viewers we continue to communicate, but i would like to ask all viewers who are currently watching this broadcast to subscribe to the espresso youtube channels, the atp youtube channel and comment on this video, that's how youtube works, if you don't do it , then no one will see us, and this important information about admission to ukrainian universities will also be seen by fewer people than it could, you can also copy the link. on this video and send it to your friends in crimea, only use safe messengers, we do not recommend telegram, we do not recommend viber, any other messengers, well, you know better which ones are

safe, ms. valentina, are you still with us, yes i am with you, great, eh , let's move on to another topic, i understand about the numbers you mentioned, that the number of people, schoolchildren, who choose ukrainian universities is decreasing, for objective reasons, because it is more difficult to leave, but there is another reason, this is a huge propaganda machine of russian , which unfolds in crimea, and here we have a video, as in artek, the occupiers forced 35 children to march in the so-called immortal regiment for this week, these children were led by veterans of artek, participants in the war against occupying ukraine, representatives of the investigative... committee of russia, school teams from various regions, cadets of the black sea higher military academy - of the nakhimov naval school, well, we actually remember how

the national anthem of ukraine was sung in khimkovka when the russians invaded crimea in 2014, and then these guys continued their service in the naval forces of ukraine. well, that is, ms. valentina, we are we see that this is simply the militarization of children's consciousness, so what? what should we do with it, what are we going to do with it, when the deoccupation of the peninsula already happens? and you know, unlike you, i am a person who, being at the same age as those whom we now saw in the video, ah, was in the soviet union, yes, we also had a lot of - measures, and when they took us out there, they tried to throw something into our heads, ah, but, uh... in fact

, children perceive it as such, you know, very strong coercion, and even when they are teenagers, then the reaction may be the other way around, ugh, but one cannot underestimate the propaganda machine that is now aimed at children in crimea and other occupied territories, what to do with it? in order to somehow overcome it, we need to develop programs already today, well, let's call them rehabilitation programs, programs for restoring civic identity, but we need to prepare for this today, and we need to take certain steps for the state, which... so that in

the future teachers were already ready for us to understand that the children who were in the temporarily occupied territory are actually victims of the occupation, and that the fact that they can tell the teacher that ukraine is a nazi state and something like that is just, well, you know, a manifestation of a certain , i don’t mean the word disease, well, it can also be a teenager , i know how to say it, because i really don’t want to say protest, we know that in reality, children at such a sensitive age can say very unpleasant things to parents and teachers, and it is not necessary "necessarily connected with war and behaving defiantly, everything is clear here, but i'm actually inspired by what you said about

the soviet union. friends, the children who wore these red handkerchiefs and who were taught that marxism, leninism, did not really believe in it, i hope that in the century of the free internet, crimean children also have critical thinking and understand what is really happening. another thing is that sometimes they can't say about it publicly, simply because there will be problems both at school and with their parents, and in the future they can with their career. there will be problems, we understand it all, if you know, we communicate, yes it happened that we communicated with students who were in the temporarily occupied territory for almost nine years, and you know what is inspiring that these students, who are now in ukraine, we had a meeting in lviv, ah, what, well, they are very smart people. they are very

responsible for their mission, they understand that they need to return home, that they need to change, and they tell us that in reality everything is not as bad as it is depicted, but we need to take certain actions on the part of the state and at the international level in order to stop russia, and you yes, we saw the decision that was related to... banning teaching in the ukrainian language, unfortunately, unfortunately, the decision regarding the crimean tatar language was not so, well , unambiguous, and it seems to me that we need to return to this issue, because actually we see that if the occupiers show certain numbers, in terms of access. to

the native crimean-tatar language, they have hardly changed, in fact we understand that this is such a big potemkin village, yes, i don’t know, this is a very important topic that deserves a separate broadcast, and i hope that in other on our broadcasts of the tv channel and espresso, we will discuss this topic in more detail, the topic of the crimean tatar language and the ukrainian language, the suppression of these languages ​​in the territory at the time. of the occupied peninsula, thank you very much, mr. valentin, for taking the time to join our broadcast, the head of the national advocacy department of the almenda civic education center was with us on the broadcast, we talked about education in crimea, more precisely about ukrainian education for residents crimea, it is still available, still possible, and we believe that the best crimean schoolchildren in fact, they come to ukrainian universities and study, if only the ukrainian state

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